UC92:


To be honest with you, that drawing isn't fit to be called an Architectural drawing let alone done by someone portraying himself to be an Architect.

The drawing lacks the basic features required of an Architectural working drawing.
For instance, take a look at the floorplan posted there; no indication for floor level difference, no door and window codes, very poor dimensioning, no north arrow, no floor/ceiling finishings codes etc etc.

For the elevation;
no spot heights, no indication for doors/windows, no specification for external finishes etc etc.

How could you probably call this 8 sheets of drawing a work of Architecture?

For the records, the minimum basic features of an Architectural working drawings includes;
Location plan
Site plan
Floor plans
Roof plan
Roof covering plan
Roof framing plan ( for wooden works only)
Reflected ceiling plan
Sections
Elevations
Details
Door/window schedules
Finishes Schedules.
Finally 3Ds

In each of this features, there are a lot of information each should showcase which I may not be able to go into details here.

Following this basic features religiously one could get as much as 20sheets of well detailed drawings for a 4-5bedroom bungalow not to talk of this one with about 2/3 suspended floors.

Lastly, @ Oga Unzend please pay him his money after all there was no agreement on the basic deliverables.

Left for me, this does not qualify to be called an Architectural working drawing, infact any Architect that seals such drawings needs to be questioned.

I rest my case.

I trust this forum and people like you here

Thanks, He agreed that the work would be peer reviewed before final payment. Moreso, He prides in the work he does, and I believe He can do it maybe, lazy.

We agreed only 3D wouldn't be part of it.

He can come here to refute that and I'll add screenshots.

It'll take more than one or his incessant denial to make me count this as a loss.

CivilEngineer90:
I have taken down all controversial posts so you can take down this too

See you, so you are doing what you don't want others to do to you. I never knew you cared.

My details you posted online is what I can afford and cannot be traced to me in any way.

I am more experienced than that.

I will bring them down when I have the time but hope you take this as a lesson.

Quite unfortunate you used something I tried to reason with you on to soil your reputation (or at least of this monika).

Try to be Patient with your Clients next time Bro, not everyone is dubious.

You never know what a single opportunity can bring your way.

Peace.

toluxa1:


My thoughts too. Nothing wrong with the review, but what has been happening for the last 3 weeks? Why is it after 3 weeks he too is bringing it here for review? Wasn't that to be done the very day he got the documents or the next day? It took DoctorWh00 less than 1 hour to do the review just now. So why delay payment for 3 weeks?

Mind you, delay isn't up to 2 weeks.

I met him here about 3 weeks ago.

I spoke to him first, on 8th of this month

He is just an impatient kind forcing me to conclude something unreviewed.

Can someone honestly answer me.

Is architectural and structural drawings something that is rushed ?

If not for someone who reviewed here, and standing to my words, I wouldn't pay, cos I am even yet to understand everything he sent.

DoctorWh00:

Chairmen. I’ve checked the drawings and they are very okay.
2. All necessary information’s as listed in my initial post are in the drawings
3. However, for transparency, you can send it to one more person here to also review it and give a final verdict.

DoctorWho.

Thanks DoctorWho, Appreciate your help and sacrifice.

I have sent another 35K remaining 40K

The remaining will be sent when I get another review.

Peace.

CivilEngineer90:
useless internet scammer!! FEHINTI JOHN pay me my money you useless internet scammer. I see you have not a single respect because of your bad upbringing. So you even have the guts to ask me to post a sent job to you, anyways Those are your jobs sent to you so post it here yourself.

If I don't petition you to efcc you will explain how a small boy of 22years got money to build 2houses. If it is Bitcoin you will explain to them I have your site address and every details about you and I will make sure I follow up on the case because it will cost me nothing to do that. It is Greenville estate, close to a celestial church. I will modify this post with the Googlemap images.Bet

I sound like a kid to you right ? The things you see are over 11 years of blood, sweat, tears and fears, coupled with God's help.

The first you see is over 7 years old, the second over 6 years old.

Don't portray me as someone who got money all of a sudden. Maybe thats the reason you think I'll send you for something unreviewed.

Not everyone buys Akara with thier first earnings.

I pray you find peace.

CivilEngineer90:
drop ur email I will forward the file to you.

unzend4u@gmail.com

DoctorWh00:

Send the drawings let me review for you

Thanks Bro.

Kindly find it here
Pls remove the spaces between

https: // files . fm /u/ 4mbuqq2u8

I think he said the password is 123456 for one but I don't know of the second.

CivilEngineer90:
you are a dead man already but don't know it yet. The money is nothing to me but bro you have priced and you will surely pay. Is it not Greenville estate here, this will probably be my last comment here and also I see this forum is only when a client complains that it is addressed. When Next and somehow had issues I saw how everyone suddenly became a tiger and descended on next but since it is the other way round everyone here is now offline and nowhere to be found.The money is nothing to me I am bigger than that compared to a low life internet scammer like you but you.....I will end it there.

Wish whatever evil you want. My Life is covered by the Cross and the Promises of Jesus. I have no ill against you , all I want is a complete and reviewed work.

My God will frustrate any evil plans you have, rather all your evil wishes and plans against me will fall back upon your head if you don't repent.

I shall not die , but Live and declare the works of the Lord in the Land of the Living in Jesus Name.

Your impatience and haphazardnees can't cajole me into paying for a seemingly incomplete work.

The money I'll pay you is also my sweat, sometimes sleepless nights.

I will pay you but, I need some conclusions first from people who know about the work here which is what I initially agreed with you.

FEGEITOK:


post the passworded files or upload it to fegeitok at yandex dot com, I'll send you the plain files in minutes


Please take down his picture

The files are here

https: // files . fm /u/ 4mbuqq2u8

FEGEITOK:


post the passworded files or upload it to fegeitok at yandex dot com, I'll send you the plain files in minutes


Please take down his picture

Thanks , I'll take down his picture now and upload the passworded files also now..

Thanks for your help

FEGEITOK:


Please take down his picture

Let him take down my name and details first.

CivilEngineer90:
you are a dead man already but don't know it yet. The money is nothing to me but bro you have priced and you will surely pay. Is it not Greenville estate here, this will probably be my last comment here and also I see this forum is only when a client complains that it is addressed. When Next and somehow had issues I saw how everyone suddenly became a tiger and descended on next but since it is the other way round everyone here is now offline and nowhere to be found.The money is nothing to me I am bigger than that compared to a low life internet scammer like you but you.....I will end it there.

At least, your true character has shown here.

I am quoting this as an evidence against you at any day.

Again you can't pressurize me into paying you when your work isn't reviewed yet.

I'll pay when your work has been reviewed, that was our agreement.

kopell:
Oga please take it easy, you can resolve this issue amicably without going through ruforufo style. My question to you, all this job is done for 150k if I get you right? Does this drawing includes seal of approval? Is Mechanical, Electrical included in the negotiation? It’s should be included as well, that what makes full drawing. It’s looks like the young dude didn’t understand the process that’s why I believe he is asking for review, you as a professional should have advised him professionally. Mr client, to be fair. There is no reason to withhold somebody’s balance. After the job is delivered, it doesn’t matter whichever format it’s done. I think it would be fair to pay him his balance without making him go through this headache. You can see the breakdown of all you needed, as it’s already detailed down and it must be in 6 sets of booklets to be submitted for approval. If it’s in Lagos state.

Awesome, Thanks a lot, can you please help me do this for a token?

He has send the documents but passworded.

I have the password to the first but not the second.

I don't need passworded documents.

I only asked him to give me time to review and he is threatening me.

I have already told him that if I bring it here, then I'll go by the recommendation of people here.

CivilEngineer90:
thief! Pay your debt, pay someone for job done. Thief!

Can you send the docs unpassworded so I can post the links here for people to review.

You should know your work needs to be reviewed.

Once the review is done and you send your ID, I'll send you your balance.

For the records, you pressured me to pay the first half within the first 2 days which I did.

We also agreed no more payment until work is completely done and reviewed.

So don't think you will bypass that.

Anyone who can help review his work for a token should please signify, I'll appreciate

CivilEngineer90:
you claimed i never sent you the Architectural and yet you later posted them, where did you now find them post. Where did you get the ones you posted? Below is a screenshot that proves you received both drawings over 2weeks ago and the read receipt there confirms it. I am not supprised because you are a internet fraudster and have no respect for hardwork. You believe those files sent to you were created from thin air.post the structural drawings sent to you with the Architectural you already posted on the other thread.

Pay your debt!!!

People here aren't daft .

Post those images, even if pixilated.

ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS
1. Site location plan
2 site plan
3 floor plans ( ground, first second etc)
4 roof plan
5 sections (2)
6 elevations ( front, sides , rear)
7 windows & doors schedules

STRUCTURAL
1 Foundation layouts & details
2 suspended floor layouts & details
3 colum details
4 beam details + roof beams
5 stairs details
6 calculations sheet

Deliver.

Seem to me now you are looking for someone you can pressure to pay you while sending unfinished work

Deliver

Again this is the list of delverables.

What you need to deliver

ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS
1. Site location plan
2 site plan
3 floor plans ( ground, first second etc)
4 roof plan
5 sections (2)
6 elevations ( front, sides , rear)
7 windows & doors schedules

STRUCTURAL
1 Foundation layouts & details
2 suspended floor layouts & details
3 colum details
4 beam details + roof beams
5 stairs details
6 calculations sheet

Can You tell everyone which of these are sent and reviewed by me?

CivilEngineer90:
pay your debt!!!

ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS
1. Site location plan
2 site plan
3 floor plans ( ground, first second etc)
4 roof plan
5 sections (2)
6 elevations ( front, sides , rear)
7 windows & doors schedules

STRUCTURAL
1 Foundation layouts & details
2 suspended floor layouts & details
3 colum details
4 beam details + roof beams
5 stairs details
6 calculations sheet

Deliver

CivilEngineer90:
Hello nairalanders, I did an architectural and structural drawing for unzend whose real name is FEHINTI JOHN which 150k was the agreed price, I have completed and delivered the job to him since 3weeks ago and unzend who's real name is FEHINTI WALE JOHN has refused to pay me my balance. I have sent him all jobs completed since 3weeks ago.

What you need to deliver

ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS
1. Site location plan
2 site plan
3 floor plans ( ground, first second etc)
4 roof plan
5 sections (2)
6 elevations ( front, sides , rear)
7 windows & doors schedules

STRUCTURAL
1 Foundation layouts & details
2 suspended floor layouts & details
3 colum details
4 beam details + roof beams
5 stairs details
6 calculations sheet

Post it here and I send you the balance after review.

You are the scammer cos you are rushing me to pay without delivering satisfactorily.

Irupetepete:
judge what matter?
If nairalanders wake up to this, you go regret am...
Did he fulfill his own end of the deal by delivering?
Did you have any complaints on the said arch drawing?

I already called you foolish, silence is your best answer.

Why not ask these questions first and wait for the answer

CivilEngineer90:
When you are working for them they are always online and available on WhatsApp 247, they pick your call before it even rings twice but as soon as you finish the job then suddenly you become a disturbance. 10am will become "early morning" and they will tell you they were far from their phone for 2days. That is when they will now require your BVN and international passport before they can pay you your hard earned money.

Me we never be a victim to bad clients come 2023

Unzend pay your debt!!!!

As I told you on whatsapp. I admire your skill and knowledge of your work

You are good, but your character is robbing you of a lot.

I'll leave people here to judge the matter.

If you want it this way, then, I post your face here.

Not sure what your name is but what I have is Kadri Jubril.

I am not sending you a dime till you send me your ID card to be sure its truly you.

Your character is despicable and You make me regret ever meeting you.

CivilEngineer90:
internet scammer!! FEHINTI JOHN pay me my money. Those are your jobs sent to you so post it here yourself.

ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS
1. Site location plan
2 site plan
3 floor plans ( ground, first second etc)
4 roof plan
5 sections (2)
6 elevations ( front, sides , rear)
7 windows & doors schedules

STRUCTURAL
1 Foundation layouts & details
2 suspended floor layouts & details
3 colum details
4 beam details + roof beams
5 stairs details
6 calculations sheet


I am not sure you've sent all this to me

DoctorWh00:

ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS
1. Site location plan
2 site plan
3 floor plans ( ground, first second etc)
4 roof plan
5 sections (2)
6 elevations ( front, sides , rear)
7 windows & doors schedules

STRUCTURAL
1 Foundation layouts & details
2 suspended floor layouts & details
3 colum details
4 beam details + roof beams
5 stairs details
6 calculations sheet
Engineer exercise patience with your client and let everything be resolved amicably.

Thanks , sincerely appreciate.

CivilEngineer90 please post the diagrams here and I'll pay you.

I have no ill against you.

FEGEITOK:


I know you are upset, but unveiling his identity is not a very prudent step

I have both the account he gave me and his pictures, but I wouldn't go down that rabbit hole.

I just need help here so I know how to close this business with him.

1. What are the things I need to review in a architectural and structural drawing
2. What are the deliverables for this kind of Job.
3. I also need him to send my an identification means since he has threatened me in a way

I am ready to pay an escrow if necessary

Thanks everyone in anticipation of your advices.

FEGEITOK:


based on the bolded, how did you pay him before?

To an account he provided.

I want to be sure its his account with his name now before I take any further step.

diordaves:


I don't understand the situation. Why are you delaying payment for a job already completed?

Asking for a balance payment for a job already delivered is putting pressure on you?

What was the brief before he commenced the job? Was any brief not delivered? Do you need him to fine-tune anything? You certainly don't need us to critique the job at this late stage before you will pay.

You should be truthful to him. From the information you've supplied so far, it is not acceptable to withhold payment. Unless you have more valid information, if not, please pay him as soon as practicable.

Can you help me with definition of completed for architecture and structural drawing?

CivilEngineer90:
when I was sweating on the job id card was irrelevant to you,when you were commanding me on where to put the kitchen and where to put the staircase my id wasn't important then, when you kept me up at night while you were snoring you didn't ask for Id card but after sending you the job it is now you know I might be a scammer right? Bro pay me my balance. You have you drawings so what is delaying my balance?

Mistake on my part

I am asking for your id card because you threatened me yesterday.

Before I do anything next, I have to be sure of your name.

CivilEngineer90:


Mind you there was already a foundation on ground which I went to the site to inspect and the job I met on ground I wasn't impressed as it doesn't meet up to Standard but he said that his bricklayer who is his Engineer is very experienced so that is his problem. I am only concerned about the Architectural and Structural. I already sent him the job already in pdf via WhatsApp and it's been almost like 3weeks ago I completed the job and yet to receive my balance yet. He claimed to be busy which I understand but with the rise in inflation I want the job rounded up because every contract is valid for a window the value of money paid can execute it.

He blocked me on Whatsapp already because I asked for my balance. So asking for my balance means I am not nice right? If I hadn't completed the job the narrative would be that I took money and didn't complete the job but now it is the client refusing to pay for a job I spent 3 day and nights on. I already sent the completed job to him on WhatsApp.

I am ready to pay you, but do I pay,for something unrefined yet.

U blocked you , yes, because you are putting me under duress to pay, even tonight.

I asked for an ID card and you refused.

I brought it here so people can tell me what to do.

Sorry for any inconvenience

unzend:
Good Morning All,

Can you please assist me to know if the height of this Roofing work can be reduced ?

I need enough spacing to be available for a window on the wall of the Duplex behind ,

The carpenter went ahead to make it higher after we already concluded for a shorter height.

The reason he gives is due to rain downpour.

I am about telling him to reduce it because the number and budget of stoan coated roofing tiles have increased.

Thanks and Regards

Thanks to everyone that helped and advised.

The roofing is now completed.

The height was reduced and the window was cut out.

Although it costed a lot more.

But all Glory to God

Compliments everyone.

Please has anyone worked with CivilEngineer90?

Also, I need some advice on how to review the architectural and structural drawing he just did for me.

I am paying him 150K for both and already paid half but I just want to be certain I am paying for the right deliverables.

He initially seem to be a nice person but lately pressuring me to complete payment, although I have been quiet buzy lately.

Kindly advice on how I can vet the drawings so I am sure I am paying for the worth.

Thanks