CivilEngineer90:
unzend will ask you to send to site and let them verify it on nairaland. He will insist they fix it first to know if the roof is good or not before payment. Boy o ya werey gan. He paid me 35k still asking for verification before paying the balance of 40k. The person he picked to verify it said it is okay, to be honest I wasn't even expecting the good review because I was thinking doctor who won't be objective but he really won my respect and I have started following him truth will always rule. If not for unzend I would be doing important works but here I am. Children will really drag one to the mud.

unzend:


You are not serious for calling me a child.

How old are you.

Better respect yourself

CivilEngineer90:
unzend will ask you to send to site and let them verify it on nairaland. He will insist they fix it first to know if the roof is good or not before payment. Boy o ya werey gan. He paid me 35k still asking for verification before paying the balance of 40k. The person he picked to verify it said it is okay, to be honest I wasn't even expecting the good review because I was thinking doctor who won't be objective but he really won my respect and I have started following him truth will always rule. If not for unzend I would be doing important works but here I am. Children will really drag one to the mud.

superintendents:
money121 is trustworthy bro

CivilEngineer90:
Unzend. FEHINTI JOHN are you paying my balance or not?

CivilEngineer90:
okay let him deal with unzend, unzend will so much insult him he will contemplate leaving nairaland. Baba review

UC92:


For the records, the minimum basic features of an Architectural working drawings includes;
Location plan
Site plan
Floor plans
Roof plan
Roof covering plan
Roof framing plan ( for wooden works only)
Reflected ceiling plan
Sections
Elevations
Details
Door/window schedules
Finishes Schedules.
Finally 3Ds

Following this basic features religiously one could get as much as 20sheets of well detailed drawings for a 4-5bedroom bungalow not to talk of this one with about 2/3 suspended floors.

Left for me, this does not qualify to be called an Architectural working drawing, infact any Architect that seals such drawings needs to be questioned.

ChrisPrimeProp:


The service provider is a Structural Engineer. And I read somewhere he said the architectural drawings were included since there couldn't be Structural drawings without Architectural and that is true.
Before we judge, we should ensure we understand from both parties what does nal deliverables were earlier agreed on. Reason I always encourage professionals to have written agreements even your client is your mother.
Talking of "Architect seal", that comes with a price. Are you sure the structural drawings will even be sealed.
I read the drawings are for "construction" and not "approval" . While I do not know how this "short-cut" will work, considering it's a multi-floor building, I think @unzend needs to tell us what was agreed as work scope.

CivilEngineer90:
God bless you sir. He asked of Structural only but he doesn't understand construction so I made him understand that no Structural without Architectural but I volunteered to do the Architectural for him so he can save money. I myself I don't do Architectural much because I have too much steel structures on weekly basis. There was already a foundation on ground and I took the measurements to align with the foundation. I didn't just create that Design I can do better than that but I had limited option since I have to Design according to the dimensions on ground.

unzend:


The files are here

https: // files . fm /u/ 4mbuqq2u8

topsy23:
Settle this issue amicably pls. Both parties should reason with each cos you've over drag the issue.. Pls and pls

GloriousGbola:
The cold truth is that unzend probably just wanted the drawings so he could get approval to construct. He is probably content with artisans ('who sabi the work') directing the construction.

It is almost always a problem getting your full payment on these informal jobs

ChrisPrimeProp:


I am a bit concerned that this exercise is based on an existing already built foundation on site.
And it is for a 4-floor building? If I read all these correctly there are some concerns I need to be sure you took into consideration in your structural design.
You may want to reach me via contact in my signature as I refrain from discussing engineering on open forum.

ChrisPrimeProp:


The service provider is a Structural Engineer. And I read somewhere he said the architectural drawings were included since there couldn't be Structural drawings without Architectural and that is true.
Before we judge, we should ensure we understand from both parties what deliverables were earlier agreed on. Reason I always encourage professionals to have written agreements even if your client is your mother.
Talking of "Architect seal", that comes with a price. Are you sure the structural drawings will even be sealed.
I read the drawings are for "construction" and not "approval" . While I do not know how this "short-cut" will work, considering it's a multi-floor building, I think @unzend needs to tell us what was agreed as work scope.

unzend:


I never said I wouldn't pay him in full.

Yes, I try to manage the money I have.

But I wouldn't cheat anyone.

I said he should wait for one more person to review.

Please read the conversations prior before labeling me wrongly.

We also agreed his work will be peer reviewed before even the 75K remaining payment

CivilEngineer90:
I will reach you sir, I also don't talk about Structural issues here I just talk on Architectural only. I already have an idea the questions you want to ask sir I will gladly answer then just be ready to laugh your lungs out.

CivilEngineer90:
you are not willing to pay that money, you are a very dishonest person and a liar. That drawing I sent to you that is just 1.78mb if only you know what it took me to create those drawings, those Designs it the bloodline of that building you want to construct but you think is it something that you can just play around with. I'm a twin, you are playing with yourself but you don't know. Unless I didn't sweat and stay up all night for that drawing but if I ever put in affort for that drawing you will never build anything in your life even the ones you have built you will loose them all. It is my effort and sweat you are playing with here, it is my life work you are taking as a joke. Don't worry those hyping you here won't be with you when it will happen.

unzend:


I will unblock you now.

You can create a whatsapp group with three of us

unzend:


I never said I wouldn't pay him in full.

Yes, I try to manage the money I have.

But I wouldn't cheat anyone.

I said he should wait for one more person to review.

Please read the conversations prior before labeling me wrongly.

We also agreed his work will be peer reviewed before even the 75K remaining payment

unzend:


I am a true child of God. I dont fear your curses.

I am covered by the blood of Jesus.

GloriousGbola:


There is nothing you are doing I haven't seen or experienced before. Your peer review if you want to call it that will be the approval by lasg.

The energy you had in pursuing him to complete the design should d be the same energy to pay him.

But it is never like that.

FEGEITOK:

Are you sure that if you do this to clients paying/owing in tens of thousands that you will not end up doing the same to those paying in millions?

CivilEngineer90:
okay. I urge you to create a thread and post updates of the construction here. Unless you pay me my money that building will be on paper alone, it will never see the light of day. I am cursing you confidently because I and so Certain that the curses will affect you because I know the work in put in to get your document ready. Any Structural Engineer here knows the pains to create a single structural analysis and that's what you are playing with me for? RIP in advance

GloriousGbola:


Client matter dey taya me

Now now now

Urgent urgent urgent

When time to pay radio silence and different stories.

And this also applies to larger entities.