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Gbadebo19:
The way JNIM is dealing with that false hope peddler called Traore in Burkina Faso, I don't want to hear say USA or France sponsor anything ooo 🤣🤣

It appears you and Mr Obedience have no qualms with terrorism. I observed you and Obedience explicitly endorsing terrorist elements.
You don't have to like the regime in Burkina faso but endorsing terrorism is all shades of wrong.

Gbadebo19:
Getting rid of them might be a step too far. I don't know what you mean by "getting rid" but I am sure you don't mean extermination 🤣🤣.Well, they need to be gotten rid of cos they planted this current ideology in the masses.
A re orientation will work better.
There doesn't seem anything like a tangible hope for Nigeria in the next 20 years.
Re orientations take years to manifest.

At the rate these leeches are bleeding us out, we'll be lucky if we still have a country in 20 years
Nigeria is not at war but people are dying needlessly
We are a ticking time bomb waiting to go off.

I think it's too late for re-orientation, the percentage of people that trust the government are really slim.

23jerryking:
National interest? Not for African leaders, the Western Africa especially. There's only personal interest.

Nigerians are very naive, I have asked people what's the difference between PDP and APC and the rest of the political parties. Like what are their ideologies ?

What makes the APC or ADC standout from PDP ?
Sometimes they are just the same people, moving from one party to another and yet my naive Nigerians think they are different.

Just a bunch of old men trying to get super rich at the expense of the gullible masses.


It'll take something drastic to correct these abominations we call politicians or they might end up bleeding our coffers dry.

seunny4lif:
Easy due to sanction
Any serious nation that is facing sanctions like Russia with trillions of dollars resources, don’t have other options than to look inward and fix her own heavy reliance on outsiders.

So far it seems the sanctions are blessings in disguise
Perhaps it's time they sanction Nigeria maybe our coconut head go correct

Sometimes I wonder if Nigeria as a country has any national interest.

LordAdam16:
We're in the endgame.
Hamas and co were not vanquished like Satanyahu promised.
Without deviation, the current path leads to genocidal famine.
Two detours are available. A ceasefire preceding an end to the war.
Or mask-off ethnic cleansing and genocide.

They're not thrilled about the latter.
It is obvious they'd want to keep appearances.
But another reason flies under the radar.

The ethnic cleansing of Gaza + forced annexation of the West Bank will very likely trigger an Intifada.
Europe, thanks to their liberal border policies and their sins in Syria, will disproportionately feel the brunt.

Satanyahu asked them to board a bus to Lagos.
After 20+ months, they've found themselves in Togo.
They want out or for Satanyahu/Trump to pull a Houdini.

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History is written by the victors.
If Satanyahu had succeeded in eliminating Hamas by military means, they could have used the ends justifies the means argument for their original positions.
Hamas, Houthi, and Iran has dispelled any hope they might have had about an Hail Mary.
Genocide is all Satanyahu has got left and no one would care if he rots in prison. Trump will be put out to pasture.
Europe will be left holding an odorous bag left by two political figures they absolutely detest.

France snuck out the back door.
The others are doing the geopolitical equivalent of lawyering up, smashing hard drives, and shredding paper.
Watch out for the Gaza summit hosted by France and Saudi Arabia.
The traitorous Arabs intercepting Houthi and Iranian missiles and the conspiratorial Europeans will take turns doing a Shaggy "It Wasn't Me" rendition.

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PS: What the Arabs could not achieve in their three Arab-Israeli wars was delivered on a plate.
Israel has been demystified. The US is approving all their demands while Iran and Russia are pre-occupied.
BRICS and NATO courting them. They're in their hot girl summer era.
Hamas, Houthis, Hezbollah, and Assad have taken significant hits.

Their foes are taking out each other. It's glorious. If you're a Saud, Nahyan, Sabah, Khalifa, you're loving life in 2025.
They were almost certainly sniggering like a drunk bevy and high-fiving each other when Israel was killing Iranian generals and Iran was taking out entire blocks in Israel. Every dead IDF soldier and Hezbollah/Hamas operative is one less foe to worry about and all they've had to do is feed the flame with $.

bin Salman b lyk, these 🤡 were popping a vein when I dismembered a journalist. How e b you now? Not so sanctimonious now, are ya?

-Lord

Bottom line, Arabs are the biggest hypocrites not the West

FoolishBoy419:
The two-faced snakes are trying to clean their hands, just as alfa Lord Adam predicted.

Something doesn't add up
Why are they all just speaking up now ?
They must have been living under a rock

A Spanish female top diplomat lost her job for condemning Israel last year.
The Spanish government was the first European country to call out Israel's aggression.

I don't understand why the Europeans are trying to distance themselves from the very thing they supported from the get go.

Viva la France

seunny4lif:



Think message will be sent to Turkey
What will the Turkish military do? Strike back, Isreali military command? What will the USA do if Turkey strikes Isreali military command centers?
What will NATO do?
At least no more Russia this, and Iran that on the Syria matter.
The Isreali gov supported the current Syrian government, thinking they were better than Assad, but now they are on Isreali throat.

Anyway am selling popcorn

Do you have proof Israel supported the ousting of Assad ?
I think Syria is where the US's interest and the Jewish state does not align.
I support everything the Israelis are doing in Southern Syria to protect the Druze.
Jolani started his regime by targeting the Alawite, now he's going after the Druze.

More than a thousand Alawites have been exterminated since this guy came to power.
How's this Jolani guy better than Assad ?

FoolishBoy419:
🇦🇺 “We don’t discuss hypotheticals.”

Australia refuses to pre-commit to any role in a Taiwan conflict — despite U.S. pressure on allies.

Canberra is keeping its cards close.

Good for you. Those that want to fight China should do it alone.

Labor Foreign Minister Penny Wong recently made a lengthy speech about Australia’s geo-political challenges without specifically naming enemies," but our chief subtextual enemy at the moment is China, our largest trading partner, and a country which owns large quantities of Australian real estate, mining interests, pastoral industries and our most northerly strategic port, among many other assets. "

Why would China declare war on a country it already owned without firing a shot ?

WritterNg:
⚡Axios:

Russian president Vladimir Putin supports the Israeli idea of denuclearization in Iran, and asks Iran to hand over their enriched uranium.

During the 80s, at the height of the cold war

Jonathan Pollard a US Navy intelligence officer was captured spying for Israel, the Israelis in turn passed the stolen classified information to the Soviets.
Some reports suggested the information might have been used to facilitate the emigration of Soviet Jews.

In 2011 PM Ben Netanyahu begged for the release of Jonathan Pollard and he was released in 2015.

The relationship between Russia and Israel is not that complicated after all.

Obedience40:
That's not criticism mate, I have criticized the US for not giving critical weapons to Ukraine on time, I have been critical of Biden slow response to Jewish needs during the war in Gaza.


The type of criticism we are talking about, is the type they leveled against the West, Genocide, Regime changes, freedoms suppression, Forcefully take over of territory's, invasions, etc

They are critical of Palestine deaths why not also extend that to Ukrainian civilians?? They condemned the Iraqi invasion, while applauding Russia invasion of Ukraine, They say Israel is bombing cities, while they hail Russia as she levels Ukrainian cities, They say US in enabling regime changes, while Russia is sponsoring coups in Africa, they call US military installations as occupation, while Russia is strategic partnerships

Those weren't criticism, They were simply pointing out Putin's inadequacies, Hope you get my point mate??

Foreign agent🫣

Are you saying the west didn't commit genocide, regime change or invasions ?
Technically you didn't criticize the US, you only pointed out their " inadequacies " in Ukraine.

Both the Russians or Soviets and the West are very much guilty of all of the above.

Alamkiir:
Firstly, I think Iran should increase the range of their missiles to the level where it can reach the US mainland before testing the nuke. If not it won't stop the US from attacking iran

I think you're talking about ICBM, only a handful of countries have that capability.

I don't think Iran wants nukes, it appears they're indecisive though. The first thing any serious country that's in pursuit of nuclear weapons does is to withdraw from the NPT. As long as they are a signatory to the NPT, they MUST submit to IAEA inspections.

Before you bring up Israel, bear in mind Israel is not a signatory to the NPT and Israel maintains a very cautious ambiguity about possessing such weapons.

The question people aren't asking is Why are the Iranians enriching uranium close to weapon grade ?

I think most of us grew up watching too much Hollywood movies where people believe the US doesn't negotiate with terrorists, well all that is a lie.

The US is a country that responds to force, that's the only language they speak. When an organization or a country speaks the same language fluently with the US, then they'll be willing to negotiate.

This language is a leverage that can get an organization or a country a sit on the negotiation table. The Iranians spoke this language fluently recently, we all saw what side asked for a cease-fire, after initially aiming for regime change.

I believe the Iranians would agree to any deal that includes lifting of all economic sanctions and the agreement to civil use of nuclear technology. The Ayatollahs have banned the development of nuclear weapons since time immemorial. The only reason they could be enriching uranium is for leverage.

Another example of a country that understands this language is Pakistan. There are rumors that Pakistan is very much interested in developing ICBM. A means to hit the heart of mainland US, This news has spooked Washington. However, the Pakistan government is sort of broke and they are looking to secure some loan from IMF.
In other words, Pakistan's loan would be approved and they would jettison any idea of developing ICBMs.

Obedience40:
You think it by scribbling Long epistles enhh mate??, so the criticism is that LordAdam is calling out Iran over women dressing code, that's criticism to you?? Dress code?? Iran is killing and jailing protesters and your fallback is someone is been critical of dress code, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂, So you think we pro west guys will be arguing with you guys if all you guys criticism of the west is just based simply on western dress code and corruption 😂😂😂,.

They are countless of articles of mass media of western origin who are very critical of Israeli operations in Gaza's, that is popular knowledge, How many Russian Mass media is critical of Putin war in Ukraine?? None right??

Crimea is traditionally a Russia island that's your excuse?? Texas was part of Mexico before becoming an independent republic and then joining the United States hope you know that right?? So Mexico can wake up morning and invade and take it back because it was once Mexico right?? Russia can invade alaska because it was once Russian territory or Nigeria should invade Camerron and take back the bakassi peninsula right?? Dose it make sense to you??

Russia is not killing civilians right? The 14k civilians that have died in Ukraine, how did they die, they were killed by the Ukrainian military right?? Who killed them??, 51k Palestinian is genocide but 14k Ukrainians is what now??collateral damage?? Russia is fighting a conventional military in Ukraine while the Jews are fighting a foe who camouflage with civilians, What do you expect mate??

Even a kid knows the media in the US didn't support the Iraqi invasion, When Russia invaded Ukraine, how many Russian Mass media protest against the move? When Russia invaded Georgia how many Russian Mass media protested. We can point to many instances of US mass media criticism of sitting US president and its polices, show us one major Russian Mass media or Chinese being critical of Xi or Putin

How many civilians died in the gulf war when the US aided Kuwait and the total combatants?? Help yourself mate, stop being emotional😂😂😂😂

When it comes to WW2 victories Russia won the war, when it comes to regime changes The Soviet Union is suddenly not Russia again.
😂😂😂😂😂

A Russian court sentenced its own soldiers fir war crimes

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn012ed0z2ro.amp

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-soldiers-family-killing.html

Baba I think you missed the point
A few days ago Russia was condemned even by its most ardent follower here (Writerng ) for being an unreliable ally.
I have not seen you admit or condemn any foreign policies by the US.

Perhaps it's time you and Writerng registered as a foreign agent lol

WritterNg:
⚡Vladimir Putin arrived in Minsk.

The President of Russia arrived in Minsk to take part in the Eurasian Economic Union summit.

Eastern European girls dey fine sha 😉

Gbadebo19:
@usmanpogo, for the sake of clarity, I think a better example should be:

If there is a war between Egypt and Syria and Israel closes its airspace. Can Egyptian planes launch missiles from Israeli airspace?

I think the only one you used with Israel and Iran as the only countries is not comprehensive enough. You should have added a third neutral party which we can put in the position of Iraq.

Let's not engage in hypotheticals because this can continue all day.
Iraq is in between Iran and Syria, Israeli jets uncontestedly navigate the Iraqi airspace knowing fully the Iraqis won't dare shutdown their plane.

Iraq's representative to the United Nations said 50 Israeli warplanes planes violated Iraqi airspace shortly before a U.N. meeting three days ago. The NOTAM during the closed Iraqi airspace didn't stop the Israeli military jets.

That's enough clarity

Gbadebo19:
Okay, so Iraq and Kuwait have also officially closed their air space.

I remember arguing this with usmanpogo the last time that Israel doesn't need Iraqi airspace to shoot missiles into Iran.

As Iraq has now closed their airspace, it basically means Israel should be unable to shoot missiles into Iran anymore if actually Israel was using Iraqi airspace for most of the airstrikes on Iran. Let's wait and see.

Calm down bro
Are you certain you understand what it means when a country closes it airspace ?
Airspace closures are mostly implemented when it's unsafe for civilian aircraft to fly. For example, whenever a projectile is launched from Iran to Israel, certain parts of the Israeli Air space are closed due to security concerns, it doesn't mean Israeli military jets won't be in the air.
I hope you understand now

Obedience40:
I see a lot of wailing over Trump remarks, hahahahahahahahahaahhahahahhahahaanannan

For the leader of the so called " free world ", you don't see anything wrong with this ?
Pls tell me your just trolling

WriterrNg:
⚡British Defence Secretary says UK military assets have begun arriving in the Middle East.

How far WriterNg
Is Russia coming to help Iran now ? Because the chance of the US and the UK joining the conflict just went up.
They are not just going to fold their arms and watch Israel turned into Gaza .

WriterrNg:
🇺🇸 🆚 🇮🇷



Ggggggrdrdf kkjjjjjh kkkkkkds

Did the US president just openly threatened to kill the leader of another country ?

Americans have over 300 million people
And Trump is the person they choose to lead them in this time of troubling geopolitical uncertainties.
Isn't democracy beautiful !!!!

Obedience40:
Russia weapons bypassing Nato countries airspace, I think that happened once when a missile breached Nato memebr Poland and also some few drone incursions also in Eastern Poland which borders Ukraine, anyone whose airspace is breached reserves the right to take out the projectile, Turkey took out Russian jets when it breached it airspace. Defending your airspace won't be interference

your take on the New world order is accurate, When we try to educate our friends here, they don't seems to understand, they have all been blinded by the hate for the west.

As regards The US intervention in helping Israel take out projectiles from Iran, i will take the dark lowly path of "plausible deniability"... There's no "named" official or official statement nor physical evidence that US military are helping Israel defend itself😜

I knew you would plead the 5th
Nice one oga lawyer
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Gbadebo19:
A section of your writeup conflicts with another section. First, you said Russian missiles passed through NATO airspace to Ukraine and they didn't shoot it down because it would amount to them getting involved in the conflict. In the latter part, you said it is no secret that NATO is coordinating operations in Ukraine. Why does coordinating operations in Ukraine NOT amount to being involved in the conflict. If shooting down Russian missiles amounts to NATO being involved, so should the coordination of operations. Thus, we can safely conclude that by coordinating operations in Ukraine, NATO is involved in the conflict which further exposes Russia as being weak. If on the other hand we do not see the NATO coordination of operations in Ukraine as being involved in tbe conflict, then shooting down russian drones should also not be seen as being involved in the conflict. If you agree with this last sentence, then we can say that US and UK shooting down Iranian missiles does not translate to being involved in tbe conflict.

Point out what part is false and I'll rephrase
NATO has openly denied involvement in Ukraine.
The US and the UK have openly admitted to shutting down Iranian missiles, comprende ?

obedience4:
I see a lot of narratives of our friends here trying to push a agenda that the US would intervene on behalf of the jews without any direct provocations by Iran against US interests in the middle-east.

My mate say he get evidence but the evidence na only twitter he dey😂😂🤣


The big question is this, they have been alot of talk here and on X of a new world order, a new coalition of countries, seeking to bring a sudden change to the present dynamics in world politics, to bring a premature demise to the perceived US led western hegemony in the world

The war currently in Iran and Israel is the first real point of call to check the strength of the so called alliance, Iran an important regional power has be touted by commentors here as a key player in the so called new older challenging the present status quo'

North Korea, China and Russia the other key players have not even critized the deliberate attacks by the Jews on Iranian soil, the killings of military officers inside Iran even when neogations were still going on, there's is alot of chatter here about the US moving forces to the middle-east, What stopping China, and especially Russia from putting up a strong response to the attacks even if they don't want to show military strength??
Is this how you want to challenge the dominace of the US when you can't even stand up for your allies.


I need your take on this

Cc balisco , Simeonjoe1, Gbadebo19, usmanpogo,
seigneur eve husband, 23jerryking,

I don't understand what you mean intervene, the US is already involved in this conflict. The US and the UK are shutting down missiles from Iran. The only thing the US and the UK haven't done is attack Iran but they are very much involved already.

For example, Last year, I said Russian missiles were passing through NATO countries airspace and they dare not shoot it down, I remembered there was this dumb guy that says he lives in France calling it a false flag.

NATO countries understood shooting down Russian missiles heading towards Ukraine would mean their involvement in the conflict, so they stayed away.

You're a smart guy, I'm pretty certain you know the US is involved already, except they are yet to attack Iran. There's a reason the Saudis want the same security guarantees the Israelis have, just like Ukraine.

At least you agreed Iran is a regional power, you've tried very hard to downplay their capabilities but I'm certain you know they are very capable and a formidable adversary.

Thirdly, there's no serious opposition to the current world order, it's just wishful thinking, no such thing as new world order. The current world order started with alliances, the transatlantic alliance has been the most formidable and still remains they most formidable alliance till date.

Russia and China are making the same mistake the Axis powers did during WW2. People easily forget there is no military alliance between China and Russia.
It's no secret NATO is coordinating operations in Ukraine, China could have openly supported Russia but they didn't.
If China goes to war today, it'll go to war alone because China has a policy of not allying itself militarily with any other country.
China even sells drone components to Ukraine and Russia.

In conclusion, yes the US and the UK are very much involved in the fight against Iran.

Gbadebo19:
You seem to forget Syria. Most of the jets are actually through syria. It's not a matter of if the government of syria allows, Israel has its area of control in Syria

You're very funny
Are you sure you've seen the map of the middle east ?
There's a country in between Syria and Iran, the country is called Iraq.

Watcharena:
and I suspect some of those jets are taking up from Iraq , when you calculate the distance,the time it will take large number of jets to take up ,time it will take them to rearm. Something is really questionable

I don't think the jets are taking off from there but Iran needs to do something fast about the Iraqi airspace that's being used or it's chance of defending would keep getting slimmer.

Crayfish09:
True but I think mosf of the strikes in Tehran were carried out from within. If there's one thing I must concede, it's that Iran's intelligence is at slowpoke level

Iran shares land borders with seven countries: Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, and Turkey. None of these countries allowed their airspace to be used except Iraq.

Bro all the planes are coming in through Iraq, no other country would allow their airspace be used except Iraq. It's either they are complicit or the government can't control its airspace.

Iran would find it difficult or nearly impossible to defend itself against Israeli air force if it doesn't do anything about Iraq. The Iraqi airspace is uncontested, a leeway for the IAF to rain missiles at a safer distance.

If the Iraqi government isn't complicit in this campaign then it must stop the IAF from it's airspace or the Iranians can move in and set up defenses.

seunny4lif:
Please, don’t believe those guys oooh
One call from USA and Saudi government will change Pak general mind. Saudi owned that country

Two bottles of alomo for you
The same Paki that does the dirty work of the US and the UK. He be like say make Turkey tell Iran say them support you, if you believe them na OYO

WriteerNg:
⚡Pakistani Defense Minister Khawaja Asif:

Israel is targeting Yemen, Iran, and Palestine. If the Islamic world doesn’t unite now, we’ll all face the same fate.

Pakistan stands with Iran. Silence is no longer an option.

This is a kind gesture but are they willing to fight alongside Iran ? When the US and the Europeans come for Iran.

LordAdam16:
I said it on this thread.
Persia is ready.
I no put water for mouth.

-Lord

Even ready for the Americans and the rest of the dunderheads that follows it about ?

I doubt it

mikael11:
News update USA base in Iraq is been attacked don't know how true is that yet though

I hope they did it through their proxies, outsourcing can be good at this time when they don't have so many friends. This will be a nice goose chase to buy them sometime.