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You go explain taya cos you have no evidence

dreamxhaser:
If BH were to channel the energy the have on Nigeria on countries like Niger and Chad, they will I've run those countries in weeks

No, their capital is in a rainforest zone

dreamxhaser:
Is their capital a desert?

Can their 12,000 personal (both military and paramilitary) cover the country's landmass? Can they even cover their border with Nigeria?

Is it the Nigerian military that don't have experience in desert warfare? You think the NorthEast is a rain forest? Abi u think sambisa is a jungle?

What's the difference between Niger, Chad and Core North East Nigeria?

Your military is as good as those ashawo in makoko. They cant fight Niger junta

I'm loving these guys already

Now let any Tinubu boy step a foot there
Ego over dem

GeneralDae:
I know there would be no war but let me drop this here from one of my favourite security news Twitter handle:

"So Mali and Burkina-Faso have dispatched combat aircrafts to Niamey to respond to any ECOWAS attack on Niger. Three Super Tucano attack aircrafts, two Bayraktar TB2 attack drones and one Mi-35M attack helicopter have been deployed to meet the ECOWAS challenge.

Niger on its part have deployed two Turkish built Hukus-C light attack aircraft and can call on two SU-25 attack planes.

If diplomacy fails and ECOWAS decides to act, be rest assured that five to six times that number of aircrafts will be committed to an ECOWAS operation.

It is not clear if all participating ECOWAS countries will send aircrafts to take part, but the Nigerian air force alone will be an overkill. The NAF has at it's disposal one Super Tucano attack Squadron. Unlike the EMB 312 Super Tucanos fielded by Mali and Burkina-Faso,
Nigeria's Super Tucanos was custom built in the U.S by the Sierra Nevada Corporation. They are equipped with electro-optical, infrared and laser targeting systems, advanced communications and datalinks, precision guided munitions like the GBU paveway laser guided bombs,hydra 70 rockets with Advanced Precision Kill Weapon (APKW) tail kits, a device that converts dumb unguided bombs into precision guided munitions.

Both Chad and Niger are far better than your clueless army that hasn't been able to defeat ordinary Boko Haram.

Let your security experts who know much about your army tell you. Your guys are weak

GeneralDae:
All these West African countries together would even struggle against Chad not to talk of Nigeria. I know there would be no war though.

When it comes to fighting on the desert they are the most experienced in West Africa and don't forget they are being backed by Russia

They have the second largest Army force in the region so I hope you know what that means.
Your Nigeria army will never send more than 10% of your troops there so think

dreamxhaser:
You think the Niger Junta have the force/number to cover their entire landmass. The battle will be in the capital you fool

This is how Nigeria-Ecowas military will loss to Niger junta

They think Liberia, Gambia and Sierra Leone tactics will apply here.

Those Niger guys will watch them enter, close them up and smoke them like makoko weed

vaxx:
Niger has a large span of landmark( it is even bigger than Nigeria) which could spread ecowas military thin and pose serious logistical challenge to ecowas military in this economic challenge ecowas is facing currently. Naira is becoming a tissue paper of late . So if you are sensible , you should know that just as artillery wins battles, logistics wins wars too.

Thanks for educating these braggarts

Niger junta will smoke the entire Nigeria army like weed.

Nigeria army may have the numbers and artelleries but they are the weakest and clueless of all army groups in West Africa.[b]

vaxx:
I have already school you on this but you are stubborn to fact and evidence . It is a partnership training , this is not a direct education, unlike that of ojukuwu and obasonjo coming to Ghana for a direct military education .

Abuja cannot defeat yamazukoro, dakar and Accra in any conventional war. You know why the first two are france subject ( A beloved one for that matter) artilleries and numbers of army doest win war , training also matters, Accra can be argue to have the best trained army in the region , the UNO peace mission is a testament to this fact. Uk has the best trainned army in the world , it will be foolish to say UK will be dismantle by china with many men and more artilleries.

Again I really don't think ecowas in combine can win a conventional war with Niger , the only reason ecomog was successful in liberia is the air superiority but in this Niger case, the Wagner Group supporting the Niger Junta will have the air superiority. And ecowas should refuse Niger war for the following strategic and tactical reasons: [/b]

1) ecowas is going to meet a military junta in Niger who are waging an asymmetric warfare to entrench their position in government.

2) The Wagner group is in Niger and they are battle tested in Ukraine and don't care to use Meat Wave to overwhelm ecowas if need be

3) Niger has a large span of landmark( it is even bigger than Nigeria) which could spread ecowas military thin and pose serious logistical challenge to ecowas military in this economic challenge ecowas is facing currently. Naira is becoming a tissue paper of late . So if you are sensible , you should know that just as artillery wins battles, logistics wins wars too.

4) The morale of ecowas millitary guys like Nigeria solders on the battlefield will be zero since there is no justification for your soldiers to lose their lives for a despot who used dubious means to entrench his position in government and apart from that Niger is mostly the second home of many northern Nigerian solders . They call it home.

Peaceful countries normally do not feel the need to buy these stuffs cos we won't need them for anything.

Just look at our immediate neighbors, we are at peace with them so till we feel the need for tanks and fighter jets we will prefer building hospitals, schools to buying those stuffs

IGpro1:
coming from the citizen of a countrywhose military don't even have 1 Tank
And can't boast of 1 fighter jet or armed drones

You just want to joke, so it's on you bro.

Last time i checked Nigerian military are protecting guinea president and Gambian president till date,
And same military helped set up your countries special forces, SBS,
So jokes really on you bro.

No
We train your military not the other way round thanks

Somebody needs to tell these people the hard truth. When you hear stuffs about their army during warfare or any peace keeping you will wonder why they always keep making loud mouths about these things.

Appisko:
:PMy man ur mouth proper this morning

Both Akuffo Addo and Tinubu are being controlled by the West as usual. His initial stance was against the invassion but after some talks with their colonial masters he has finally accepted to join his fellow old Tinubu for this nonsense called invassion

GeneralDae:
What of Akuffo Addo, he attends all the ECOWAS meetings. Did he vote against the use of force this time?
We all know dialogue and sanctions would not get the coupists out just the way they didn't get the ones in Mali, Guinea, Bfaso, out.
You guys support the coupists so you don't even want them out in the first place.

The hard truth is even though your military has the most personnel's and artelleries, they are very clueless and weakest in West Africa.

They are good for nothing

dreamxhaser:
Mr Man

You've just been capping shit

I've cousins in the military and they've both claimed (on different occasions) that if the War on terrorism wasn't political sabotaged and political. NA will flush BH in months.

Are you mad? How can Niger stand the Nigerian military?

Nigeria will smoke west Africa combined in a conventional warfare.

Fvk you and your stupid claims

If there's nothing special about Niger Why then is France and USA pushing Ecowas to fight the junta at all cost?

Why is Tinubu bent on invading Niger if they are indeed not important ?

Obiano13:
What's so special about Niger? Everyone in West Africa seems to be having a coup.

At least you have sense than these braggarts.,
The whole thing about this Niger invassion is borne out of hypocricy, arrogance and stupidity.

Those Ecowas guys looked on for Presidents of Togo, Cote DIvior to illegally extend their stay in office. They looked on for Mali and Burkina Faso to oust their Presidents from office without any proper sanctions and they are now behaving stupid with Niger just because a certain France, USA told them to do so

I thought Tinubu was better than Buhari not knowing he is only but a clueless old man

gallivant:
War will only destabilize the whole region. Where was the talk of war when Burkina Faso and Guinea military toppled their regimes? Why is everyone interested so much in Niger? We should ensure Niger is left alone by any means possible.

Mark it on the wall, Nigeria Army can't stand the might of Niger Army. They will flush them in seconds.
The only strength Nigerians can boast about in warfare is their mouths nothing more.

TookDownYourMum:
Luckily, the majority of Africa is against the threat of war in Niger.

Nigeria shouldn't be treated as some western stooge and Tinubu should be impreached if he goes to war without NASS approval. It should be resolved diplomatically instead of destabilizing the region. I support the sanctions placed on Niger by ECOWAS because I believe it will eventually make the coup leaders cave in as it did for Mali.

Nigeria has more sophisticated artelleries than any country in West Africa but your military is too weak to win any warfare against Niger.
See how Niger and Cameroon flushed out Boko Haram from their territories? something Nigeria Army has been trying to do in how many years now?
Your "known-it-all" military are very clueless and this mission is far above them. They can't win

You can ask any unbias Security analyst on this and they will tell you these below,

The best Military in Ecowas by far is the Niger Military . Niger does not have as much artelleries like you do but they are the most experienced and formidable military in Warfare currently. Don't joke with them

Ghana is formidable in warfare stratagy, intelligence gathering and fight

Burkina is also good and experienced in warfare
What Nigeria has over others is the number of military personnels, artelleries etc but your personnels are very weak for any serious warfare

GeneralDae:
Why do you think almost everyone everywhere who do not support force are focussed on Nigeria as the country that wants to invade Niger mostly making it a Niger-Nigeria fight?

It's not necessarily because Tinubu is chairman as a chairman cannot decide alone for the whole body and the position goes round.

It's more or less because people know the other ECOWAS members don't count in terms of a military operation against any sahel nation. They are not even battle tested nor have they been that active apart from normal UN peacekeeping operations, and this includes even Ivorycoast and Senegal.

They also do not have sufficient artilleries, tanks, and airforce for such a military operation (even if you bring them all together).

If only Chad was in ECOWAS, then there might be some little support for Nigeria.

All these braggarts don't know their military is the weakest link in West Africa. tuerh

It pain me the West have successfully convinced our President to send Ghanaian troop to fight in Niger. We should have allowed Tinubu boys to go and face the Niger Junta boys so they will learn sense the hard way.

GeneralDae:
This exaggeration about fighting Bokoharam for years is a fallacy. Bokoharam as a capable terrorist group capable of holding territory in a non guerrilla warfare only lasted from towards end of 2014 to around mid 2015. Since then their remnants have been fighting guerrilla warfare in Sambisa, recruiting from Nigeria, Chad, Niger, and Cameroon with their sponsors and network in all four countries.

Nigeria has a weak police force that was neglected for decades of military rule, but Bokoharam since then has required mostly civil intelligence gathering by police and non kinetic action.

We don't want war but we all know Ghana and other West African countries do not have the weapons. Nigeria has the weapons especially the best air force and naval force in the region but do not have the finance to waste on a war in Niger at this time.

Also, Nigeria would not want to destabilize Niger because of the many terrorists groups there.

Chest beating as always but don't forget that weapons alone dont win wars, you need intelligence and up-to-date skills as well

The emboldened is what these chest-beaters don't get. Their country has been fighting Boko Haram for how long now and they are here supporting rubbish so they can brag over what they are not.

Ghana has been deploying Soldiers and Police for all kinds of missions since the days of Adam but this one about Niger is a nonsense mission and we are not interested in nonsense

vaxx:
You must be an idiot. Where was Nigeria when Ghana any about 300 plus soldiers to ivory coast or that of Mali? These are personal non US mission, it is not even ecowas assignment.

Well the main purpose of ecowas is to provide economic cooperation among members state and not millitary assistance . Some they overlap their job for security purposes.

Anyway, this is the amount Ghana has injected from her own end simply for security and we are not facing any insurgent here.

What is the land size of Sierra Leone or Gambia? You should know that Ecowas invading countries like Niger or Mali cannot be same as the afforementioned countries. Considering their land size it will be very difficult to embark on such mission.
The aftermath will be dire

GeneralDae:
The mobilisation they did to threaten Gambia, was it also sponsored by U.S?

Abacha sent 700 soilders to Sierraleone at first on his own to first free the capital and restore the president in 1997 before the war continued with UN until 2003. Was Abacha sponsored by U.S to do that? U.S hated Abacha.

ECOWAS have currently deployed hundreds of soldiers to protect Guinea Bissau from coup since 2022. Is that also being sponsored by U.S?

Especially because Ghana Military has shown disinterest in such stupid action called "invasion".

Tinubu is very clueless
He should take his time and study issues, strategize before issuing statements.
Africa is tired of Old Age syndrome

Just40:
More or less like ECOWAS bowing out since they can't find an option to attack Niger.

The USA is not willing to sponsor another ECOWAS thing, financially.

Dialog is always best

Your brain is no more located in your head I think.
Go over the argument then get back with a more sensible reply.

Shma2023:
"who can't fight for the right things to be done" like what? Your post rings ignorance.
Kenya is in the middle of wartone nations.
- since 1980s, we've been dealing with Somali, Sudan, Ethiopia and Uganda insurgents. We made the initiative Linda inji ( protect the country ) by deploying our military to Somali. Somali was fully under Islamic insurgent - extreme groups - the Sunni militia. To them, they don't fear death. They kill and destroy - and they are fully funded by Al-Qaeda and some of the most extremist Arab corporates. Somali since then has the government / president and is doing pretty well. Thanks to Kenya. Kenya has the BIGGEST REFUGEE CAMP IN AFRICA! That should speak volume. Kenya embarked on restoring DRC unrest... By that, we had to accede them to EAC treaty.. Now DRC is stable and at peace upon Kenyan diplomatic advice and military support.

Maybe @Rvp2018 will give you more history on that.


Reason your leaders owns a lion share of land!

Yes. Kenyattas, Moi's and so on have huge land. Whites? Nope! Maybe you're confusing us for south Africa. In Kenya, whites or foreigners LEASE land! Most of the leases have expired and Kenyans have repossesed the land. You only need money as a Kenyan to buy as huge as 1000 acres of land.

Majority of properties and companies in Kenya are owned by Indians, Chinese and other Whites. No need arguing

East Africa is full of coward women like You and RvP who can't fight for the right things to be done. Reason your leaders and Whites own a lion share of lands and properties in your respective countries and you sissies can't do nothing about it. That stupidity doesn't happen here in West Africa

Shma2023:
Only Nigeria in West Africa has an average IQ above the ceiling of Africa's average. Most west African nations are sh*thole... And that includes Ghana. Thus say, Ghana🇬🇭 is so irrelevant in geopolitics. Ghana can't engage in the Niger issue not just because it doesn't want to, but because it has no capacity, both in intellectual and resource cap.

And that's where the hypocricy begins from.
Such amendments and coups must be treated the same. They are both illegal

GeneralDae:
Again amendment of a constitution is internal affair. However, a coup is a complete termination of the democratic process by force

Like I said, ECOWAS code of conduct does not tolerate a coup especially when you kidnap the former president without releasing him.

However, ECOWAS is reviewing their constitution to include prevention of amendments of national constitution for 3rd terms which would be the real interference into national sovereignty if you ask me.

That's because West Africa is not a place for cowards. If you've studied Africa very well you will notice that West and Central Africa are the only Regions that are truely Black Nations.
West Africa is not like your country where Whites subtly own and control your economy

Kazikazi:
The question remains...why West africa has so many coups? Is it due to low levels of developments?

Is there a nation in west africa which didnt fall into a coup?

In this part of the world where I am, we have tanzania,kenya,malawi,zambia,botswana,namibia,etc,which never experienced a coup.

The institution called ECOWAS is not serious one bit

Luzebox:
because ECOWAS leadership has always been cowards...or most leadership ...west Africa will never be stable like this...soon we might get another coup in Niger or even mali..when they stop liking the current leader...the trend of coups is too much...soon the entire WA is going to be under military

My point flew over your head
Note that there is no unity/freedom without JUSTICE.

ECOWAS can't keep cherry picking and expect all countries to follow. Those who illegally extended their stay in office are equally guilty as the coup plotters so ECOWAS should be fair and firm in all their decsions

GeneralDae:
I just explained in my previous post why Niger. I don't think you read it.

ECOWAS used diplomacy and sanctions for Mali and Burkinafaso but it didn't work. Now they are fed up with just that strategy.

In ECOWAS constitution (so to say), they have a signed agreement in 1993 that allows them to intervene in such things only.

Their legal framework doesn't have within it, terms to intervene when members decide to tweak or change their constitution, only when a sitting president is forcefully removed or the sitting president rejects the will of the people in an election, or when there is a crises that removes the Government, are they allowed to intervene.

If Ghana amends their constitution today, ECOWAS cannot intervene.

Kazikazi:
All these ghana,nigeria and all west african natikns were at once or more than once been in a coup. Its not about french as many think because ghana,liberia,sirra leone,nigeria,etc are not french colonies.
And it is not about having a centralized government either. Tanzania or China have a centralized govnment and we never had a coup. Actually its more harder to do a coup in a centrallized gov

Nobody mentioned irrelevant tanzania so rest.

Those guys are really suffering and what they need now is peaceful resolution not military invasion Those taking decisions a ECOWAS are not smart.

Just40:
Exactly this .... Nigeriens are the poorest in this Subregion because of France..... Their citizens are all over the Subregion begging for money on the streets and most of the countries have tolerated this for some time now.

They want better and this time round they are demanding it

GeneralDae:
Let's break it down one by one or put them in context.

1) Coup in Guinea was understandable and ECOWAS have now resolved to amend their constitution preventing leaders from seeking third term. That is in the works. If ECOWAS doesn't have that in their code, you don't expect them to interfere in Guinea when a president amends constitution for third term.

2) Coup in Mali was first based on insurgency. This is where ECOWAS allowed France lead the campaign against the terrorists in Mali in 2012. After 2012-2013, France was largely disappointing in their fight against the terrorists. The coup then happened in this frustration but was still condemned by ECOWAS. They tried to use diplomacy but as you can see, diplomacy didn't work.

3) Coup in Burkina, almost same as Mali. They took lessons from Mali. ECOWAS again used diplomacy and sanctions, but it seems not to have worked again.

4) Coup in Niger, almost same script again, same playbook and ECOWAS has seen enough. This time they put the option of force there as well to do something differently.

Why Niger?

This is what makes ECOWAS a hypocrite institution. We saw a good number of Heads of State at Allassane and Gnassingbe's swearing in knowing very well those guys extended their tunure of office illegally.
ECOWAS should mind their business and allow Coup plotters in Niger to do their thing.

Luzebox:
the ghanaian leader is a coward... afraid to stand for something...he doesn't want to hurt the west and is too scared to fight a war...always hiding behind Nigeria... Their president is a funny man...he also doesn't want coup in west Africa...stand for something for God sake

We all can't be hypocrites like ya
When Allassane and Gnassingbe extended their tenure of office illegally what did ECOWAS do?

The hypocricy about this whole invasion thing stinks.

Those hypocrites at ECOWAS headquarters should come out and tell the World the difference between the Coups in Guinea, Mali, Burkina ,Niger VRS what Allassane Quattara and Faure Gnassinbge did in their respective countries?
ECOWAS can't keep cherry picking and expect all member countries to support their decisions.

GeneralDae:
But ECOWAS including Nigeria and Ghana have never tolerated these kind of things especially when you hold a sitting president captive and do not release him.

Also, Nigeria especially doesn't want Wagner or Russian puppets in Niger because Nigeria is completing her gas pipeline soon and in collaboration with Bazoum, the project through Niger to Algeria was to be flawless.

Russia would not want such a project passing from Nigeria through Niger to Algeria and then Europe. The Algerian end has even been completed already.

Says the fool

meanwhile when you are asked to mention 4 things you know about Zanzibar (from head without browsing) the fool in you can only mention tourism,mumu

IGpro1:
unfortunately Zanzibar is more popular than Ghana. So Technically Tanzania is more popular than Ghana.
Uganda and Togo are a good comparison for Ghana, they fit so well.