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ovoP:I never said that, did i ? We are talking about a SE/SS summit. So it involves igbos as well as the south-south minorities.. |
Feraz:You overestimate the importance of nairaland. Folks here have zero influence to change anything. |
ovoP:I am not down playing the south-south. You down play yourself when you think the igbo man is out to get you, instead of forging a meaningful partnership and get our collective people out of african poverty. Tell me, what is bad about a seaport? Is it not going to provide jobs and revenue for the south-south fellow and government? Because it benefits the igbo man somewhat, and suddenly that makes you suspicious. And that is how you down play yourself. |
ovoP:There is virtually no significant manufacturing output in the SS. The only thing you find is extraction. Your refineries is to extract oil and none if them is owned by a niger-deltan. Orient refinery in anambra was built and owned by South-easterners. That is the diference between us. There are Glass industries everywhere in Nigeria. The few ones in the SS is not significant enough to be reckoned with. |
Ekinematics:The bolded is wrong. As for the rest, i have no interest in arguing further. If SE ans the SS become seperate nations, our first line of action should be to create a trump styled wall to prevent the inevitable influx of refugees pouring into the SE due to widespread militant activity in the SS. Ofcourse, we will pay the militant lord in charge of the akwaibom axis to use the water ways to import machineries for aba hustlers and that innoson chap and others that will spring up across our land. |
ovoP:And yet there is no SS state that is known for any manufacturing output. Atleast you have the likes of lagos, abia, anamabra and even kano producing something. The type of migration you would probably get is the chinese styled migration. |
Ekinematics:Chest beating ? So the SS is more educated than the SE? The SS has deeper entrepeneural base than the SE? abi. You don't even know your weaknesses, you are busy shouting south-south. |
The somalian coastline is larger than anything Nigeria can offer. It is now a bee-hive of pirates. Congo is the most naturally endowed nation in the world. It is currently governed by various militias with an abysmal poverty rate and huge crime levels. Does anybody see the correlation between them and the South-south? |
Ekinematics:Give me one reason right now why you would gamble the other way. Tell me one thing that the SS does as well as the SE. Absolutely nothing. The SE is more educated, more resourceful, has more specialized human resource and a more established entrepreneural base. The SE even in Nigeria currently has the lower poverty rate. And i am not even talking about the social order that a single ethnic provides that is absent in the disorganized, entropic south-south who would most likely erupt in a free for all ethnic struggle for who controls what. The only thing the SS has more is oil and the atlantic. And those are not enough to build a prosperous nation in the african context. A smart gambler knows where his bet lies. |
@gurnam. If you believe that, then that is your own business. I have no obligation or desire to change your point of view. I am not here to school haters. |
Interesting. Biafra may have more friends than she thinks. It is a question of organization and structure. I believe if the entire south east intelligensia ever get united for biafra, getting it should not be as difficult as getting palestine or catalonia. Nigeria is not a power, and i don't think the US owes her any favours. It would be a question of who offers the most control to the US and stability in the sub-region. A 20 year lease in the east for an AFRICOM drone base that the US has been long coveting to effectively police the gulf of guinea and a 15 year oil drilling monoploy for chevron and texaco would be a huge concession which would be worth it in the long run. |
zxcvb:When you stop trying to be more Nigerian than those that actually fought for Nigeria and now wants out, nobody will call yoruba again. |
Jabioro:You and i know that is wrong. How can you support and still be skeptical? You don't want a yoruba nationhood. End of story. |
gurnam:No, you are looking like the pained one, mr afonja. A weaker partner will not host a union on his own soil. If the SS and the SE get their various independence in a hypothetical scenario today, a smart gambler would put his money on the SE to be the more productive, settled and developed state in the long run. |
gurnam:Yes, because a port in the SS does not benefit them. It benefits only the SE that has been given the monopoly to ship in goods and machineries. Illiterate. |
Access to the atlantic closer home is the most important thing here. That should be the first thing especially from the south-east point of view. The SE need to prevail on the governor of akwaibom to develop a world class seaport and if possible make it a joint venture with an agreed revenue sharing formula. If that is the only thing they can achieve in five-ten years, then it would have been very well productive union. |
Jabioro:Then you are indeed in the minority. I hope your people online can join your line of thought. If not yorubas will keep getting called out online. |
@montize Go through nairaland and see why the yoruba name calling is in good form. Yorubas polluting biafran discourse in the online space and get called out online as well. IPOB does not gives a whit about yorubas in relation to biafra in real life because there is no yoruba opposition to it in the real world yet. The only people calling out yorubas are just young igbo folks online, and as a reciprocative gesture not a pre-emptive strike. Stay away from biafran discourse, and nobody will call you guys out. And yes Yorubas do not pose any threat to biafra because you cannot. When the entire igbo race get ready for biafra, it will come. |
Jabioro:You don't have to endure that anymore? Just ask for a yoruba sovereignty. |
gberra:You are just a pathetic attention seeker trying to garner online credit on the back of IPOB just like many of your sad people here. What the hell is ''Ipob always lie, true hurts ipob'' at the end of your every post? Who does that if not an attention seeking loser? |
What is the obsession of yorubas with biafran matters?. Is there something these guys are benefiting from Nigeria that the rest of us don't know about.? This is a matter worth investigating to fathom the cause of these yoruba obsession with biafra that neither affects nor concern them. |
Moneytize:[b]I don't think any sane individual is counting on yoruba help to actualize a biafran state. IPOB has never in their history sought or included yoruba in anything. The problem is that the yoruba indigenes on the internet has cultivated the habit of posing as online antagonists to the biafran cause. Yes, it is just the internet and it dosen't change anything, but still, it is annoying. Go through the political section and other social platforms, the same theme runs through - Yorubas constituting nuisance on biafran threads as if they are the only Nigerians around. Incase you don't know, let me re-echo it loud and clear - THE SW IS NOT THE CUSTODIAN OF ONE NAIJERIA. LUGARD DID NOT HAND NIGERIA OVER TO AWOLOWO. THE YORUBA RACE IS NOT MORE NIGERIAN THAN THOSE THAT WANT OUT. I would expect a tribe that calls itself sophisticated and socially developed compared to the rest of Nigeria, to take pride in their own group and pursue an ethnic nation that awolowo had in mind when he introduced tribal politics into the Nigerian polity.[/b] |

