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FxMasterz:
I never said the law was abolished. I said the covenant was abolished. ...

We're talking about the Old Covenant and not the law that is attached to it.

And I am telling you that The Law is The Covenant and the Covenant is The Law.

FxMasterz:
Give me a scripture that says they laid the covenant aside.

2 Kings 17:7-15
For [so] it was, that the children of Israel had sinned against the LORD their God, which had brought them up out of the land of Egypt, from under the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and had feared other gods,

Kings 2 17:8
And walked in the statutes of the heathen, whom the LORD cast out from before the children of Israel

Kings 2 17:15
And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that [were] round about them, [concerning] whom the LORD had charged them, that they should not do like them.

Note Law (statute) and covenant is together.

Kings 2 18:12
Because they obeyed not the voice of the LORD their God, but transgressed his covenant, [AND ALL] that Moses the servant of the LORD commanded,AND WOULD NOT HEAR [THEM], NOR DO [THEM].

[quote author=FxMasterz post=129024691]For example, God is not going to punish anyone for not offering animal sacrifices today because the covenant that the sacrifices represent has already expired.

If you have truly read your bible you would have seen that you are not the one who is to offer burnt offerings but the job of Levites, the holy priests of God. But if you had truly read your bible you would have seen that they were no more Holy and had become corrupt and very filthy like the people, so who is going to save the people from their sins, since all are unholy?

Now you see why Christ came with the updated and upgraded covenant of Sacrifice and forgiveness and Remission of sins ONLY, Whi remained Holy and Undefiled, AS COMMANDED BY THE LAW.

And no one anywhere could corrupt nor defile Him, which is what Paul explained but you don't get it because you did not read the bible very well to understand what was going on and why God did all we have seen Him Do!

Rather you choose to follow the popular opinion that lets you sleep comfortably.

Only a demon and an evil thing will tell you to marry more than one person and of course only a defiled and corrupt person will seek to marry again after they have first married someone else.

And they do this because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore sons of men swim in evil.

And because God Changed His Plan.

Hosea 4:14
I will not punish your daughters when they commit whoredom, nor your spouses when they commit adultery: for themselves are separated with whores, and they sacrifice with harlots: therefore the people [that] doth not understand shall fall

The wise in heart will receive commandments: but a prating fool shall fall(like the idiot without understanding in Hosea 4:14.
Proverbs 10:8

Westerhoffe:
How does marrying again become or relate to adultery when the second wife too was legally married?

Na waooo!

You're so so confused and yet pompous!

The way you are laughing even you can see that you are a devil and this fool has already proven that you are an evil lying thing, a true son of Satan you are!

Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month .... honestly[b] I want to make her my second wife[/b]....she has agreed that she will b my second....but some of my family' n friends are not in support of it....

A married person can never marry again without committing adultery

And an unmarried person can never marry a married person person without committing adultery!

Evil wicked thing, it is because God changed the Plan is why you have mouth to speak your lies and cause more evil.

Hosea 4:14
will not punish your daughters when they commit whoredom, nor your spouses when they commit adultery: for themselves are separated with whores, and they sacrifice with harlots: therefore the people [that] doth not understand shall fall.

Westerhoffe:
How can you be so dull to admit, "she 'MARRIED' the man, not just sleeping around with him," but to your dull brain it is adultery.?..

See big black deceiving evil thing.

The whorre went to marry. A LEGALLY MARRIED MAN, IT EXACTLY LIKE THE BITCH IN JUDGES 19 WHO GOT HER JUDGMENT AND KARMA FOR HER ADULTERY AND HARLOTRY!

Everybody knows that you don't need to "sleep around" to be guilty of Adultery,only a single Bleep once like this stupid fool
(Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month .... honestly I want to make her my second wife....she has agreed that she will b my second"
Is needed !

But here you are, just like your father Satan did to female Adam, telling married people to go and commit Adultery and immorality as long as they cover it by marrying the stupid accomplice in sin!

You are a high quality evil, Deputy Satan!

Westerhoffe:
You're so so dull!

I shouldn't even be interacting with you.

You're mentioning 'MARRIED THIS, MARRIED THAT" and you call it adultery!
The Bible said MARRIAGE IS HONOURABLE IN ALL AND THE BED UNDEFILED, BUT WHOREMONGERS AND ADULTERERS GOD WILL JUDGE"

And you're still so dull to call marriage adultery!

SHOW ME WHERE GOD CALLED POLYGAMY ADULTERY! YOU DECEPTIVE LIAR AND ANTI-GOD.

Sodom and Gomorrah people?

Really?
You think you know about them?
Tell me about the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. Let me even see what you know about them.

Your definition of Adultery already shows that you are the Liar, the evil and true son of Satan.

Every normal person knows that marrying a married person is proof of Adultery,

Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month .... honestly I want to make her my second wife....she has agreed that she will b my second....but some of my family' n friends are not in support of it....she is a very cool lady and very Supportive.....

You want to marry second wife after committing adultery, you are basing your decision to ruin your life on sex. I hope the woman has not used kanyamata on you. You better snap out of your foolishness.
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SEE DEVIL WHO CALLED HIMSELF CHRISTIAN PROMOTING ADULTERY AND IMMORALITY.

Westerhoffe:
How does marrying again become or relate to adultery when the second wife too was legally married?

Na waooo!

You're so so confused and yet pompous!

See devil trying to create confusion to cover the sins of adultery and whorredom.

The prostitute/harlot/whorre second wife is marrying a married man, that is Adultery and legally it is called bigamy!

Westerhoffe:
...Adultery is sexual relationship BETWEEN A PERSON AND ANOTHER PERSON, WHO THEY ARE NOT MARRIED TO!

See devil's twisting ooh! see perversion. See what devil defined adultery to be.

Whereas everyone has defined it as Oxford
noun
voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse.

Cambridge
adultery
noun
sex between a married man or woman and someone he or she is not married to:

Merriam-Webster
: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner.

BUT HERE WE CAN SEE THAT DEVIL HAS TWISTED THE DEFINITION INTO A LIE .

UNA DEY SEE DEVIL?

Westerhoffe:
You quote the meaning of Adultery there, and yet you're blind to see it still?
How does the second wife involve adultery when she is married legally?

Second wife means means first wife's husband committed Adultery to marry the second wife.

And the second wife committed whorredom/harlotry/prostitution to marry the legally married husband of the first wife!

Sodom and Gomorrah and Amelekite people.

Michael547:
Lol....people? Where did they get that idea from?

Experience, feeling, observation and independent confirmation from other people.

Westerhoffe:
Shut up my friend!
What is adultery?
You first explain that.

What is adultery?
Can't you even see how dumb you keep sounding?

[color=#006600]Adultery
uk /əˈdʌl.tər.i/ us /əˈdʌl.tɚ.i/
noun
plural adulteries
Synonyms of adultery
: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner.

Now that the person is his wife or her husband, how does that relate to adultery?
This is you guys spread false doctrines all over the world, spitting self-made doctrines and binding the free with them.

See vex!

"His wife"/ "her husband", that means monogamy and not polygamy!

Westerhoffe:
And how does being with your lawfully wedded partner become adultery?
Or don't you even know the meaning of what you're saying?

See serpent on the move again!

Adultery and polygamy involves "partners". And Not partner!

Westerhoffe:
[You just keep twisting the Bible because what you are saying is the view and doctrines of your denomination! !

Says the evil lying twisting serpent lying yet again because he has no reasonable argument to make so now you he is searching for an explanation for why he cannot make a valid argument

Westerhoffe:
Define "Adultery" let me even see what you're shouting about. [/b]

Who does not know what Adultery is? Clearly, you don't have any reasonable argument to make but let me see.

Here is the Dictionary
Oxford
noun
voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse.

Cambridge
adultery
noun
sex between a married man or woman and someone he or she is not married to:

Merriam-Webster
: voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner.

Westerhoffe:
Now I see the kind of person I've been trying to talk to all these while!
You're a waste of time.

Where did any of these speak about polygamy?
Are you serious at all?

Do you even know what adultery is?
Do you know what being a LovePeddler is?
Hebrews 13:4 even blasted your ignorance!!!

A man MARRIES two wives and you call that adultery?
You are a joke honestly.

Where do you worship even?
They have imparted the contorted self-made doctrines into you so badly!

Gosh!

All the verses you quoted do not even rhyme with your argument!
I think you must be a child… a very young child who is still learning from pastors that should still be under trainings!!

You are just describing yourself for every reasonable and normal person knows that adultery is sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not their spouse.

So how can a married person, marry again without committing adultery?

And how can an unmarried person, marry a married person person without committing adultery?

Westerhoffe:
So, if marriage is not between a male and a female, can you tell me a third gender?

As long as Christ did not say a marriage is between male and females or males and female or males and males or females and females, you are the evil, son of Satan come to work your father's work.

Westerhoffe:
GOD never for once spoke against polygamy.
Read the Bible and stop arguing blindly.

God has Spoken against all the faces of sins and no body can do polygamy without committing the sin of Adultery and whorredom/harlotry! It is absolutely impossible.

Only a whorre/harlot/prostitute will marry a married man and only an adulterer will seek to marry another person.

Westerhoffe:
SHOW ME WHERE GOD SAID POLYGAMY IS A SIN IN THE BIBLE.

Just one verse my child.
Just one.

Here are 3

Exodus 20:14
Thou shalt not commit adultery.

Deuteronomy 23:17 - There shall be no whorre of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Hebrews 13:4 - Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.

Michael547:
So what is me?

People know it and call it spirit/soul

Westerhoffe:
So, you're saying GOD supported polygamy because of adultery?
I see you're so naive.

Show ke where GOD said polygamy is a sin in the Bible.

Now, you show you are a devil with your serpent twisting and blatantly lying because you have no reasonable argument to make.

You are the one saying God supported polygamy while I have been saying that God can never ever support it, because, it is adultery.

And Adultery is a sin!

FxMasterz:
You clearly don't get the point. The point is that only two components of the Law which you claimed was transferred into our hearts are relevant in the New Testament. .

The point is, this is not the argument. The argument is The Law was transferred from the stone into our hearts. So as long as man lives, The Law lives, therefore, you lie to say it was abolished whereas, it lives with and in us.

FxMasterz:
Are you now querying the scriptures? Was I the one who said it vanished away?

I am querying you to go back and re-enquire what Paul meant when he said Hebrews 8:13, which i have told you means because they LAYED IT ASIDE, FULLY REJECTED IT AND RENDERED IT OF NO EFFECT!

When a thing is discarded will it not decay and get old and ready to vanish?
Are you now querying the scriptures? Was I the one who said it vanished away?

Westerhoffe:
If polygamy is a sin, show me where GOD called it a sin in the Bible.
If you can't, just shut up.

Now, you pretend not to know sins and evil.

Do you not call it adultery when a married man goes after another woman or women?

"Do unto others what u would want them to do to you"

So, if you have a right to take another wife, your wife also has a right to take another husband, as was done to Ananaias, so it was done to Saphirra.

Michael547:
How do one go to God when his body is buried in the grave?

Your body is not you. Your body was just like the chassis of your car.

And just like your car, you live it or drop it to go elsewhere

Michael547:
So how is nature God?

By your fruits we know you!

Show me your work and I'll tell you who you are.

NLSOFTWorld:
I'm an atheist who believes in God's existence and I have a healthy respect for all religions and humanity my question now is: What happens after one dies?

What type of mad double speak is this? Like a killer saying he believes in life?

Anyway to your question, You go to God's Awaiting trial room for Judgment.

Dying was just your arrest aka "A Rest".

Westerhoffe:
Why didn't GOD order the second wife be sent away here?[/b]

Have you not already committed the sin like a person caught eating meat? Is it reasonable to order that the eaten meat be returned to the pot?

You have already committed the sin and right in the middle of it, so no need.

See, looking for another way to argue since all your first attempt failed.

Westerhoffe:
And show me where JESUS CHRIST condemned polygamy in the Bible, or where He said, "Ye shall not marry two wives for it is a sin unto the LORD thy GOD."

.

Did you not hear Him clearly Say that marriage is "male and female, created He them?

And not not male and females or males and female or males and males or females and females?

helinues:
If those who founded it have discarded it, what are we still doing with it?

Is it not profitable to the New vagabonds in power?

Even if every body including churches and co pays taxes, it will still be like this and people will still starve and your kings will always be eating fat and living large

Westerhoffe:
know you can't ever answer my questions nor have any reasonable counters to the previous comment of mine. That's why to save face you keep claiming and screaming sin, sin, sin…

Something I have already answered which is why you kept moving and moving until you no longer had any reasonable place to go. And because you can not believe that you have nothing to say, you are now looking for how you care save your embarrassment by truth to create a reargument by repeating yourself. And repetition just proves you have no grounds for arguing, so stop being a Satan.

Ken4Christ:
King Solomon's case is not the same as that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Sodom and Gomorrah were into gay relationship. This is why God destroyed those two cities.

Don't forget, the Holy nation of God was built on polygamy.

Sin is sin and God hates sin and you are showing you are Satan in lying for Abraham was married to one wife when he got God's attention and love to the point of God making him a nation. So you lie

Westerhoffe:
“IF A MAN HAVE TWO WIVES, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:”
— Deuteronomy 21:15 (KJV)

Why didn't GOD say the second wife here is a sin to the man?

Another reargument.
You already asked this before and i answered
"which reasonable person does not see that this is God trying to solve the problem and evil caused by adultery by marriage, exactly how He proffered a solution when a man steals because he is hungry?"

Does that therefore mean that God supports the thief?

As i have said, you have no valid argument to make for you.have argued all that any reasonable person can argue and they do not hold.

FxMasterz:
Of course it was necessary except you do not understand what the Royal Law is. The Royal Law are the two Love commandments of the Old Testament Law. The New Covenant stands on these two laws. So, what's offpoint about that?

It is off point because we are not arguing on whether The Law is love or not, so off point.

FxMasterz:
Of course you did. The scriptures clearly say the Old Testament is obsolete and vanished away, you said it's not. Humble yourself before the Word of God and take corrections.

And i showed you that The Law was put inside you and i and all of us, so how can it vanish away?

And i also showed you that The Law was discarded, and God tried bringing it back by sending Messengers including His Son, so does that not tell you how abandoned it was? You could not even counter any of them rather you showed how groundless you are and how your grounds are sinking sands by moving from place to place whenever i sink your ground, like a homeless person. So you accept correction and stand on a Rock that Never Sinks!

FxMasterz:
There's no covenant without a law as you said. That means the covenant is clearly not the law
They're two separate entities that could be found together. There can be no covenant without a law but there can be a law without a covenant.

Correct!
And as you rightly have said, we can live with no covenant, but is there a time that there was never a Law?

FxMasterz:
Yeah, there's no covenant binding you with your fiancee. That's why you can go your separate ways without any issues. The law of faithfulness between the two of you is just mutual respect borne out of fidelity.

That's a law without a covenant. No covenant between unmarried people even though there could be agreements. No seal. No signature. The agreements are not covenants until a seal is introduced. Informal agreements are not covenants.

Bottomline, no sealing (signature) yet you have a covenant of Fidelity.

Innformal covwnants are not covenants, yet you sue on it, have people arrested, prosecuted and punished for its breach. Please, dont speak stupidly. If you had no covenant, you would never sue or arrest people based on your so called informal covenants

FxMasterz:
Not true. Not because Israel cast it aside. That's unscriptural.

So, Jesus Saying
For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.

9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Is unscriptural?

FxMasterz:
Should we now abandon the Word of God and listen to veecruz? God forbid!

Isreal threw rubbished it and threw it away, and God several times and with jesus still brought it back. And Jesus even declared that even if the world ends, they would never end, yet, here you are trying to kill iit and pass it away, JUST LIKE ISREAL DID! I just pity you.

Westerhoffe:
When GOD gave an order about 'kings', you twisted it and made it what you wish, and not according to the Word of GOD.

You are the one who turned God's Word into a lie especially as i asked you did the king does not fall from the sky? And you know they did not so you did not answer.

I also aaked "Looking at God's choices of kings, did He ever choose a man having 2 or more wives? Again, you refused to answer as you already know that He never did.

And all the people you cited as example did they.get the mark where God called them Perfect? Again, you had no answer as you already know that He never did.

Your attempt to reargue what you have already argued and lost just proves you have no valid case in the first place..

So, stop doing as Satan and stop inviting people to sin

bobestman:
The liespeaker you are still a baby and still need to learn. God gave laws for polygamy. The messiah came fulfil the law and never went against his father. He never taught against polygamy but divorce. You are calling God a liar. Go and learn kid!

See the Lying satan himself changing post from place to place when he cannot answer and then raising new argument because he lost the last one.

You are just looking to re argue forever since you cannot make a point as you have argued all these before and God chas already clearly Said, Neither shall he multiply wives to himself!

So you are a devil.

Ken4Christ:
That means If your wife ask you to sleep with the househelp you are free to do so for the purpose of child bearing...

Again, you have moved post from "they gave" to if your wife...

My wife can never say that and no normal wife can ever say that, only if she is cursed with Madness.

Ken4Christ:
Well, there are also saints of Old who married more than one wife and God didn't frown at it

You are the one who called them saints, God did not. And neither did God praise them and call them "'PERFECT".

And the people God Called "PERFECT" were married to one wife or single.

And neither did you see God frown at Sodom and Gomorrah before He utterly destroyed them, so anyone pretending not to know that which is evil, shall awake to meet his destruction.

Ken4Christ:
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Do you know that God was not displeased with King Solomon because he married 700 wives? His sin was that he allowed his wives to take his attention away from the ways of God. They made him build houses for their gods.

That is what Sodom and Gomorrah, and Amelekites and even Isreal thought before God cut them down and burnt them up.

Westerhoffe:
"Serpent, snake, Satan…"

I see you really love Satan that much to always include its name in all your comments.

I won't even read this epistle of yours because you ain't making any sense in the others. So it's pointless arguing with an unreasonable being.

What had been written, had been written.

"GOD NEVER SPOKE AGAINST POLYGAMISTS".

Do whatever you want.

Good day.

There was no valid argument you could make after my answers for clearly, you have seen that the people God approved and even called Perfect are single or married to one wife in line with his Commandment of
Neither shall he multiply wives to himself,

Clearly.A Commandment speaking against and Prohibiting polygamy, but yet, you are the Satan come to lie and destroy, just as your father Satan did to man