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Christianity EtcRe: Westerhof Finally Confesses That Adultery Is In Polygamy! by Veecruz(op): 4:49pm On Mar 24, 2024
After all his dodging he finally answers that

Westerhoffe:
And is that man and his story the word of GOD from the Bible?
If it is, give me the Book and the verses it is from.

Whatever that man in that story of yours is doing is adultery. But once he marries her, she has become his wife. And being with her after marrying her is no longer adultery because she has become his wife by the right of marriage.]
EHEN! SO NOW YOU HAVE CONFESSED THAT POLYGAMY HAS SIN E.G ADULTERY IN IT! grin grin grin

CASE CLOSED! grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcWesterhof Finally Confesses That Adultery Is In Polygamy! by Veecruz(op):
Finally, westerhof confesses that Adultery is in Polygamy!!!!! grin

Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month .... honestly[b] I want to make her my second wife[/b]....she has agreed that she will b my second....but some of my family' n friends are not in support of it....

[A married person can never marry again without committing adultery
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 4:47pm On Mar 24, 2024
bobestman:
These thing are very simple but you are using logic to explain to keep your delusion cos you never agree you are wrong. Polygamy is a choice. It is clearly written and their is a reason God gave laws for it. If he don't want it, he will never give laws for those who wanna go into it. You are not God. You know nothing on this issue let alone the consequences of trying to teach God his laws or why he gave laws on polygamy. Christians sin more with one wife - do you know?
Exactly how choosing to commit a sin is a choice.

And God has clearly told us that He loves only Holy and Clean things not things that contain sin and unholiness in them, as clearly shown by ALL HIS LAWS.

And it is proven that you can not do Polygamy without committing sin especially the sin of Adultery, which no one here has been able to counter.

So,it is your choice to sin or to live Holy, but this thread has clearly proven that no one can do Polygamy without committing a sin especially the sin of Adultery.
Christianity EtcWesterhof Finally Confesses That Adultery Is In Polygamy! by Veecruz(op): 4:36pm On Mar 24, 2024
Finally, westerhof confesses that Adultery is in Polygamy!!!!! grin

Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month .... honestly[b] I want to make her my second wife[/b]....she has agreed that she will b my second....but some of my family' n friends are not in support of it....

[b] A married person can never marry again without committing adultery
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And Polygamy by Veecruz: 4:26pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
And is that man and his story the word of GOD from the Bible?
If it is, give me the Book and the verses it is from.

Whatever that man in that story of yours is doing is adultery. But once he marries her, she has become his wife. And being with her after marrying her is no longer adultery because she has become his wife by the right of marriage.]
EHEN! SO NOW YOU HAVE CONFESSED THAT POLYGAMY HAS SIN E.G ADULTERY IN IT! grin grin grin

CASE CLOSED! grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 4:10pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
I said you're ignorant, you think you're smart.

How can you profane the HOLINESS of GOD? GOD is in Heaven, you're here on Earth. You can only profane yourself and not GOD'S HOLINESS.

Sit down, be humble, and learn.
See devil! I said "blaspheme" and profane but devil ignored the blaspheme part because he can not answer it.

But thought there is something he can use with profane by pretending to forget that God is profaned when you profane His Name or His Sanctuary Or His Consecrated things or His Words exactly as He told Samuel when people like you cried for a king.

But I know you are just looking for something that you think is a mistake which you can use to escape your great disgrace and shame.

But No Road, for you. Hahahaha grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 3:52pm On Mar 24, 2024
truespeak:
Ha! The guy does have screws loose for I have been watching all this time. He reminds me of that mad guy you dealt with some years back, can't remenber his name.
Bobbestman.! Back then it was he and that Antichrist mad muslim devil who drew my attention to this blasphemy.
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 3:48pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
..Even those who saw your errors and ignorance called your attention to it, but you think you're still right, but only in your own eyes.
And I replied them and they have run away because they already know that you have said everything they wanted to say, yet you lost.

So, they don't want to disgrace themselves as you have done. grin grin grin

But, I'm here, if they have something different, I'll address it, if I can.

But, for now, ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG!

And Specifically for you, No Road and case closed, even if you keep playing your scratched CD till God Comes. grin grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 3:38pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
Are you shocked they called our LORD JESUS CHRIST the same you both had been calling me? cheesy cheesy cheesy

No… it just proves whose sides you both are on.
See am! See as you don show say you be devil true true with your demon picture.
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 3:36pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
Now I see where your problem is… it is the spirit of deception and trickery, and difficulty understanding English.

Now you've lost words and resorted to twisting my comments too. cheesy cheesy cheesy
Hahahahahaha grin grin grin grin

See devil crying about his mistake of impliedly confessing the Truth that Deuteronomy 17:14-17 truly meant "the people of Israel.! cheesy grin grin

Truth has caught you, son of Satan and you have no case again grin grin

I told you, NO ROAD! Hahahahaha grin grin grin grin.
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 3:29pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
replied to you according to your accusations.

Case not closed until you provide where GOD said polygamy is adultery according to you.

And don't run away now.
I've promised you this will be very long since you don't want to stop lying and name-calling.[/b]
While you were lying and twisting and lying some more and trying to make fresh arguments and repeating and repeating and repeating yourself, because you could not find any new way to prove your case, grin grin grin

No Road, son of Satan, absolutely no Road! Case Closed grin grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 3:24pm On Mar 24, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Double account responding to yourself really funny! cheesy
Jw Satan nairaland branch manager has come with his lies again after all the years of setting traps, yet everyone can see that we are clearly different people.
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 3:17pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
I am evil for insisting on the truth of the Bible?

Lies can never unite without parting asunder!
Says the Liar who is even right now still lying forgetting that all the times he lied are solidly plastered all over the thread and seen by all. You are a devil, full and full and doing everything your father Satan does. grin grin grin

No Road, son of Satan, absolutely no Road! Case Closed grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 3:05pm On Mar 24, 2024
truespeak:
I have come to the conclusion that he is mad. No sane person argues in this manner.
I disagree sha ooo. He is evil and very evil and a Liar, but he is sane. He just cannot believe that his entire hopes and belief in God has been broken to pieces, as he would now show that he is an atheists as we have destroyed one of his solid hopes.

The perverted guy was foolishly hoping and secretly praying that God would give him people's wives and girlfriends. What a LovePeddler chasergrin grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 3:03pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
Are the whole people kings?[/c
I've answered you but you rebuffed because the truth is not what you wanted to hear but your confused interpretation.
NOW YOU HAVE IMPLIEDLY CONFESSED THAT DEUTERONOMY 17:14-17 IS ABOUT THE WHOLE PEOPLE! grin grin grin grin

And it is clear that any 1 or 2 of the "whole people" could be Kings.

So YOU STILL NO ROAD
. grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 2:48pm On Mar 24, 2024
truespeak:
Abeg, leave that guy. im brain don freeze for repeat mode.
That's what "There is no valid argument against the Truth" means.

So, because he can not bear the shame that his beliefs were wrong the evil is now waiting hoping that I'll make a mistake he can use to turn his shame and disgrace around.
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 2:44pm On Mar 24, 2024
truespeak:
Abeg, leave that guy. im brain don freeze for repeat mode.
That's what "There is no valid argument against the Truth" means.
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 2:42pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
grin cheesy cheesy
You proved the Bible wrong with the Bible or with your personal words?

I said I'll expose your ignorance, you think I'm joking. Now you've been making mistakes in your lies now.

cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
None of which you could counter which is why you are repeating and repeating yourself as you try to find how you can reargue.

But, there is NO ROAD! Now you are waiting for what you think is a mistake, exactly like devil lying in wait. grin

No Road! Devil, Absolutely No Road! grin
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 2:37pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
grin grin grin
You'd keep making mistakes because it's clear you don't understand the Bible!
You can never make GOD look unholy, because GOD is holy.
How many men in the Bible were called perfect?
It is known that God is Holy but it is also known that people like you blaspheme and profane His Holiness
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 2:24pm On Mar 24, 2024
truespeak:
No mind dem o jare. Dey defend the indefensible like say e go save dem.
Dem no know God.

And it is crazy that the people who claim Christians and one wife are not here. Obviously, they secretly nurse the ambition of committing adultery and then marrying the the person they commit it, thinking that they have deceived God! Hmm, people go burn.
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 2:20pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
I provided several Bible passages to back up my claims, you and Veecruz had none that rhymes. Then what is your argument that lacks Bible support?[/color][/b]
And all were proven wrong which is why you are now desperately repeating yourself.
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 2:14pm On Mar 24, 2024
advocatejare:
The verse was clear that the instructions was to the king and that many wives was what God forbade for the king, two, three is not many, so a king is permitted to have two or three or any number deemed fit as “not many”

Stop adding to God’s word and stop twisting it. Have a nice day
You are the one adding to the bible and technically blaspheming God by calling Him unholy. Which is why it is people like you who gave atheists a reason to blaspheme God.

I respectfully you and all of you saying this
["from where would the king come from? Is it from the sky or amongst the people of Israel?

And thank God you said tto get a better understanding you we should start from verse 14, "When you come to the land that the LORD your God is giving you, and you possess it.." who is the "you" there? Is it a King or the people?

And in line with this Law did God ever choose a king having wives?


You refused to answer because you know that the Answer has destroyed all your beliefs.

And in addition to the questions above did you see anywhere, where God Said 2 or 3 is not many wives?

Whereas, The Law is on an unmarried person being permitted to marry his fellow unmarried opposite sex.

No WHERE DOES GOD SAY A MARRIED MAN/WOMAN CAN MARRY ANOTHER UNMARRIED/MARRIED MAN! ABSOLUTELY NO WHERE.

So stop relying on people who broke The Law. Follow those who kept The Law and God even called them "PERFECT".

And stop making The Holy God, Unholy and a person Who condones Adultery if you can sneak it by Him by marrying the person you commit the adultery and fornication.

This is what you yourself told Jw when they bring up their mad lies and sins that make God look unholy!
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 1:54pm On Mar 24, 2024
truespeak:
So Kings fall from the sky? And not from amongst us? Guy you have no argument. But I see you just love the sound of your voice keyboard.
I have been asking everyone saying this and no one is able to answer.

Sinners, always trying to stupidly defend their sins forgetting that Adam tried it and it did not work!
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 1:48pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
From which version have I been quoting from you all these while?
It's from KJV!

Deuteronomy 17:14-17 there speaks to Kings.

The KING shall not multiply horses to himself...
The KING shall not multiply wives to himself…


What is difficult for you to understand here?
All Laws of God are directed to both the people and their Kings. Every Christian knows this.

14 If ye will fear the Lord, and serve him, and obey his voice, and not rebel against the commandment of the Lord, then shall both ye and also the king that reigneth over you continue following the Lord your God:

15 But if ye will not obey the voice of the Lord, but rebel against the commandment of the Lord, then shall the hand of the Lord be against you, as it was against your fathers...

But if ye shall still do wickedly, ye shall be consumed, both ye and your king.

Stop being a devil and inviting people to sin and be consumed by God.
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 1:41pm On Mar 24, 2024
advocatejare:
I’m asking you too: does many wives mean 2 wives?
I asked you first!

Answer mine and then I'll answer yours, Stop committing the fallacy of reversing the burden of proof.
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 1:36pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
Deuteronomy 17:17 is for kings and not the people.
For Spirit and Truth, read KJV. Every Christian knows this and not those fake watered down devil bibles that are always trying to make people not feel like sinners and not feel bad for sinning.

All Laws of God are directed to both the people and their Kings.

14 If ye will fear the Lord, and serve him, and obey his voice, and not rebel against the commandment of the Lord, then shall [b]both ye and also the king that reigneth over you
continue following the Lord your God:

15 But if ye will not obey the voice of the Lord, but rebel against the commandment of the Lord, then shall the hand of the Lord be against you, as it was against your fathers...

But if ye shall still do wickedly, ye shall be consumed, both ye and your king.

Stop being a devil and inviting people to sin and be consumed by God.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And Polygamy by Veecruz: 1:27pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
GIVE A VERSE THAT SAYS POLYGAMY IS ADULTERY.
This case has already shown you that sin and adultery must take place before polygamy can even start.

Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month... honestly I want to make her my second wife...

And you yourself defined adultery as
Westerhoffe:
Adultery means a sexual relationship between a married man/woman with another person they're not MARRIED to. So, No Road!

Repeating yourself only makes you knock your head on this Law, Wall grin

Absolutely No Road for you. cheesy cheesy grin cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 1:18pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
We don't need this long epistle.

Deuteronomy 17:14-17 was to their kings.

Stop twisting the Bible.

Read in EASY TO READ VERSION and see what it says.
All Laws of God are directed to both the people and their Kings.

14 If ye will fear the Lord, and serve him, and obey his voice, and not rebel against the commandment of the Lord, then shall both ye and also the king that reigneth over you continue following the Lord your God:

15 But if ye will not obey the voice of the Lord, but rebel against the commandment of the Lord, then shall the hand of the Lord be against you, as it was against your fathers...

But if ye shall still do wickedly, ye shall be consumed, both ye and your king.

Stop being a devil and inviting people to sin and be consumed by God.
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 1:08pm On Mar 24, 2024
Westerhoffe:
Are you still having difficulty understanding the English used there?

Deuteronomy 17:17 Was referring to the kings the people will choose to raise over them, and not the people.
Stop arguing blindly and arrogantly.
Now it's the people that will choose their king, Where God directly had Said that He will choose their king; You don't know how to read and understand and you ought to refund your parents their money for sending you to school was a complete disaster and a nullity.

If you were a Christian then you would have known that God Laws are always directed to both the people and their King

14 If ye will fear the Lord, and serve him, and obey his voice, and not rebel against the commandment of the Lord, then shall both ye and also the king that reigneth over you continue following the Lord your God:

15 But if ye will not obey the voice of the Lord, but rebel against the commandment of the Lord, then shall the hand of the Lord be against you, as it was against your fathers...

But if ye shall still do wickedly, ye shall be consumed, both ye and your king.

Every Christian knows this and that is why you saw Ezra , Johan, Jonathan, Jahaziel, and co did not join the people to sin,
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 11:44am On Mar 24, 2024
bobestman:
This kid never learn. You twist God's word anyhow you like. You call God a liar when you go against his laws. You also bring his wrath on yourself when you teach things you don't understand. When God never condemn sth and it is clearly written all over the bible with examples, it is not a sin. When laws are given concerning sth, it is not a sin and since God gave it, it is a Law. Don't go against it or call it evil. Deu 17:17 is an advice to king against acquiring too much wealth. Multiplying WIVES means TOO MANY WIVES. Some kings normally has more than 5. 1 or 2 is ok.
You bring wrath on yourself when you sin and cause others to sin. And having 2 wives is a multiplication of the 1 wife into 2,

And God does not want "normally" only "Holy" and He also Commanded that we should never "follow the multitude to sin" like Ezra , Johan, Jonathan, Jahaziel, and co did not join the people to sin.

bobestman:
The later verse also taught against multiplying horses...
But it did not talk about the multiplying sheep and goats but only the 2 things whose multiplication whose multiplication have a very bad and immoral meaning.
Christianity EtcRe: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz(op): 10:56am On Mar 24, 2024
advocatejare:
Please stop misinterpreting the Bible out of context.

To get the better understanding of the verse you quoted, start reading from verse 14, God was talking about the king of Israel not the general population and he didn’t say that he forbade polygamy, He just said that the King must not acquire many wives for himself so that they don’t turn his heart away, Solomon broke this law and they turned away his heart from God

14“When you come to the land that the LORD your God is giving you, and you possess it and dwell in it [/b]and then say, [b]I will set a king over me, like all the nations that are around me“

Then verse 17 made us know that God was talking about the King

“And he shall not acquire many wives for himself, lest his heart turn away, nor shall he acquire for himself excessive silver and gold”
And I have respectfully asked all of you saying this
"from where would the king come from? Is it from the sky or amongst the people of Israel?

And thank God you said tto get a better understanding you we should start from verse 14, "When you come to the land that the LORD your God is giving you, and you possess it.." who is the "you" there? Is it a King or the people?

And in line with this Law did God ever choose a king having wives?
Christianity EtcRe: Whose Name Would God Blot Out Of His Book? by Veecruz: 8:30am On Mar 24, 2024
jesusjnr2020:
So for all those unrepentant sinners justifying themselves by Apostle Paul's erroneous teaching on salvation, that salvation is by grace alone, not by works, ..
Same for all those who say that The Law has been abolished, even after seeing that Christ Said He was not wiping even a single jot of The Law. Yet na dem wan wipe am because dem no wan Obey.

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