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FxMasterz:
Everything I said in this post regarding the Royal Law and a few others are things I have already mentioned in my previous posts. ...

It was unnecassary and irrelevant as it was not the issue of argument, so it was Off Point!

FxMasterz:
You keep arguing against the scriptures when the scriptures pointed out that the Old Testament is already obsolete.

I did not argue against the scripture, i argued against you and against your understanding of what the scripture CLEARLY SAID!

FxMasterz:
There's nowhere in the Bible where the Law is referred to as the covenant.

Another new post!
Every reasonable person knows that a Covenant means Laws for there is no covenant without Law.

FxMasterz:
A written agreement or law does not become a covenant without a seal.

And yet another new post.
Seal, means signing or signsture.

So, the unsigned (unsealed) Agreement with your Fiancee to.be faithful and just is not a covenant, eh? If it is so, then why do you complain she is cheating after.all, your covenant is unsealed?

Please, no road here besides, its off point.

FxMasterz:
I have told you that the Old Covenant has the law as one of its components. The Law alone does not make up the covenant...

As already stated a covenant means Law.

FxMasterz:
Paul made it clear that the law itself was a shadow:

Because, Isreal cast it aside and disregarded it, what else would happen to a thing that has been thrown aside?

As is already clear, your opinion is baseless which is why you are just moving from post to post raising fresh issues in a bid to find a place to stand and it is not reasonable that i follow you everywhere you run to. So without a doubt, you can see that your opinions here are unfounded and do not stand,. So take correction for you are in great error. Bye

Westerhoffe:
[b]Stop being an Anti-GOD. "From among thy brethren" means the person is singled out.

Stop being a serpent!
Is he not first among them before he is separated and singled out?

Were king Saul, David, Solomon not anong his brethren before God separated them or did he fall from the sky?

Stop being evil as Satan. Sin alone and stop inviting others to join you in your sins, for their bloods and deaths will be on your head just like Satan.

Westerhoffe:
Everyone can not be the king. Stop thinking with your anus and use your brains for once.
It did not say there, "You all" but to "the king".

Now, you show you are a liar and evil like Satan.

Is it only the king who was going into the land God gave Isreal or THE PEOPLE of Isreal? See your how you are showing that you are a devil?

[quote author=Westerhoffe post=128995112]GOD'S choices for kings you ask? Did GOD dethrone them for taking more than one wife?

Off point! (Besides! See how long God took in destroying Sodom and Gomorah, and the Amelekites and co, did it mean He accepted and approved their Abominations?) See how you.have just proven Ecclesiastes.8:11, True.

Westerhoffe:
They don't represent GOD'S standard?

This is what GOD told David after the issue of Bathsheba:[/b]

And after that God hotly punished him, his cbildren slept with his wives, you can't even bear your neighbour looking at your wife and fucking with her, not to.talk of your own children fucking her.. What a punishment he got.

And in all this God did not call him perfect.

But God called NOAH, JOB AND DANIEL, PERFECT! Hence, God's Standard is Seen.

AND THEY WERE NOT KINGS!!!

AND THEY HAD ONE WIFE ONLY! Excluding Daniel)

So, if you vontinue, you are just doing like Satan seeking souls to kill and destroy.

Westerhoffe:
If marrying more than one wife had been a sin, do you think the LORD JESUS CHRIST would not have addressed it?[/b]

Did you not hear He Answered, "Male and Female created He them"?

And not male and females created he them or male and males created he them or males and female created he them!


Stop being a devil and i pray you have space to repent.

FxMasterz:
You're contradicting the scriptures. I told you clearly that the law of the old covenant is encapsulated in the Royal Law. The law of love.

Now, you are changing post yet again. First, you did not know that The Law and old covenants was transferred from the Stone to our hearts.

Then, you still changed post and did not know that The Law is the Covenant!

And now, yet again you are still changing post raising fresh off point issues and even none issues.

Clearly, your running from place to.place shows how not founded and not grounded your opinions on this issue are WHEREAS, TRUTH IS STABLE.

And it is unreasonable that i should follow you to every ground you run to, so clearly, you are wrong and your oipnion is baseless

FxMasterz:
Agreements can be abrogated. A second agreement can have components of the abrogated agreement. That does not make the former agreement eternally active.

Agreements in deed can be cancelled but was this Agreement cancelled? Never

Rather, God tranferred it from be the Stone to the hearts of men as Jeremaiah 31:33 clearly, tells us, so you are wrong.

God even made it impossible for you or anyone to break it saying

20 Thus saith the Lord; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

25 Thus saith the Lord; If my covenant be not with day and night, and if I have not appointed the ordinances of heaven and earth;

26 Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them.

And no one has stopped the day nor the night from coming according to their season, therefore no.one broken themself free from the covenant.

So as i have said, you are very very wrong!

FxMasterz:
The New Testament is an upgrade of the Old. That's why it is called a Better covenant. It retains some components of the old, that doesn't make the old eternal. If the old is eternal, then it's no longer old.

And that is what i.am trying to get you to see, it is both old and new.

It is old because it is indeed old but the party who agreed to it threw it away and discarded it like a bad tenant. But, the prophets tried unsuccesfully to bringi it back and then.finally, The LORD, JESUS CHRIST brought it back AND ATTACHED HIMSELF TO IT saying

Jeremaiah 31:
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them,

And we all know that He Who was called Jesus Christ, is The LORD!

So, you are very wrong, so do take correction and err not!

FxMasterz:
The law is not the covenant and the covenant is not the law...

The Law IS THE COVENANT! (Note! You have moved post from not seeing that the old covenant Laws which was on tables of stone that is being transferred and transplanted into our hearts to continue there as declared by Jeremiah 31:33 to this new argumrent where.you dont know that the Law is The Covenant)

You obviously dont know that a covenant means Agreement (contract) betwern the Agreeing parties.

covenant
" a written agreement or promise usually under seal between two or more parties especially for the performance of some action".

And every Agreement (covenant) must always have LAWS called terms of Agreement or Rules of Engagement.

And it must have the Duties/Obligations (Laws. again) of the parties agreeing exactly like your Tenancy Agreement, Record Label Contracts, Sponsorship Contracts etc.

And that Agreement and signing ceremony is what you see took place in Mount Sinai in Exodus 19 when God first Spoke it, then got Moses to Write it down and repeat it to the people for them to Agree. And the people gave their agreement and consent to it.

So, you are wrong yet again!

bobestman:
Do ppl commit adultery with their legally married wives? ..

People commit adultery because they were already married when they went to marry a second time or had sex with a person who they were not married to, when they were already married.

So after the first marriage anyone who marries a second time is guilty of adultery called bigamy in Law like these people.

https://www.nairaland.com/5233645/nigerian-man-arrested-british-wife#79145339

https://www.nairaland.com/3667980/wife-sends-husband-prison-marrying#54346996

https://www.nairaland.com/5694724/woman-court-marrying-two-men#86771553

And every reasonable person knows this except mad muslims and their brainwashed inslaved women. So keep your muslim adulterous evil mind away from Christianity.

FxMasterz:
If you read my reply to you , you'll remember I said the Old Covenant was written on Tables of stone, but the New Covenant is written in our hearts. This is exactly established by the Jeremiah 31:33 that you quoted...

Is it not the old covenant Laws which was on tables of stone that is being transferred and transplanted into our hearts to continue there?

Jeremiah 31:33
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

FxMasterz:
...Note that the Old Testament was still running when God said to the people of Israel in Jeremiah 32:40:

"I will make an everlasting covenant with them: I will never stop doing good to them, and I will inspire them to fear me, so that they will never turn away from me."...

And the same Jeremiah told us what the New Everlasting Covenant was.

Jeremiah 31:33
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

And It is after this The LORD, came as the Man called Jesus Christ, to do all that was Written and Prophecied.

So, you can see the New Covenant was an Addition and not a taking away exactly how "a woman shall compass a man" was a new thing.

It did not remove anything in the old.

And all the passages of
Hebrews 8 and Galatians 3 and Phillipians you quoted are all acknowleding The Visitation of The LORD, as prophecied by Jeremiah in Chapter 31:34

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

Maximus692:
Identity verified!

You ought to have remembered since!

FxMasterz:
. The old covenant is abolished. God is no longer in Judaism. That's why the temple cloth tore into two the very night Christ hung on the cross. ..s

You are absolutely.wrong here. I have reasonably proven it to you several times until.you had no valid counter.that The old Covenant runs forever. And that since the jews left Egypt they did everything to get God to leave them alone which surely includes the putting aside of the covenant.

But the prophets and then finally Christ, tried bringing it back which is why Christ Said

Mark 7:8-9
For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

So, you are very wrong to say that the old covenant was abolished.

And the curtain of the temple was supposed to tear for how can our God, our Creator, die and then it would be quiet and nothing remarkable and memorable? Impossible! See all the noise made when Queen Elizabeth died, is it now when God was murdered when He came visiting? You should have expected that it can never be quiet. Exactly, how His next visit will be!

Uchesis:
You don't get it.

Majority of Israelis practice Judaism, even though Christ was from there (Nazareth).

But are the israelis not suppose to be more Christian than us?

Juadaism is Judah-ism which is the practice of abominations, so, Isreal is exactly the same people who left Egypt and annoyed God all the way, doing everything God hated and hath Commanded them not to do.

So, it is very understandable why Isrealis are anti God and not Christians.

1 Kings 14:22
“And Judah did evil in the sight of the LORD, and they provoked him to jealousy with their sins which they had committed, above all that their fathers had done.

For they also built them high places, and images, and groves, on every high hill, and under every green tree.

And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel.”

Beautifulday:
Jesus was not a Christian but a Jew. So how would a Jew want to be a Christian?

Christianity is for gentiles not Jews. The promise is for the Jews. Jesus brought the gentiles into the covenant of the Jews through Christianity.

Read your bible well, the disciples , who were jews were called Christians and they were the first to be so tagged.

Uchesis:
The Israelites don't believe in Christ. They don't acknowledge him as their Saviour


Why is it so?

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Is there something they know that we don't?

God Himself, Who directly walked with them and they saw His Works and even ate in His Presence, they.hated, denied, resisted Him and they never acknowledged Him, nor His Messengers, so, how would they.acknowledge His Son, Jesus Christ?

bobestman:
Which evil did i commit? Just cos i expose your lies? You and your pastors that hate polygamy but sleep with peoples wives and children are the devil.

You and all who willfully tell people to commit adultery are the devil.

Image123:
How on earth can a devil be mad again, no be double wahala be that?

ah, don't you know that God also cursed evil people to be go mad and be mad especially when they never take correction eg Saul, Nebu, pharaoh?

Westerhoffe:
see you definitely have issues with English language or you're just being daft or what?

Read the Bible quotes here and see for yourself!

Deuteronomy 17 (KJV)
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¹⁵ Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger over thee, which is not thy brother...

Was it written there for the PEOPLE or the
KINGS?

Stop being a Satan,

Do you not see the word "from among thy brethren" and the king does not fall from the sky?

Does Deut 17:14 not clearly say to THE PEOPLE, via "when thou enters the land Igave to thee "? Did it say "when the king enters the land i gave to him?

Is everyone there not capable of being the king chosen so far as they are not in breach of this Law of wives?

Looking at God's choices of kings, did He ever choose a man having 2 or more wives

You are being evil doing exactly what Satan did to Female Adam bringing the death.of mankind, So if you are called a devil, it would be right.

Westerhoffe:
.Show me where GOD said in the Bible, "Thou shalt not marry two wives! For it is a sin unto the LORD thy GOD!"[/color] and I will delete this post.

You that should still be under teaching is here arguing!

See how you have run away with the goal post and brought a different one.

First you clearly.said ",there is no place in the Bible where GOD instructs any Christian to never take more than one wife" but now that you have seen you are wrong, you have changed post, exavtly.how devils always change post when they lose the argument especially when we all know that God hates every unrightness and wickedness and evil and corruption and injustice and defilement and has clearly told us whether He specifically states every unrighteosness or not.

So, your attempt to change the standard of proof, fails woefully.

Westerhoffe:
Cover sin with adultery?
Was GOD angry with David for marrying more than one wife?

Was GOD angry with Abraham for having wives and CONCUBINES? Or you don't know Abraham had CONCUBINES?

Did GOD ever for once tell Jacob(Israel) that, "You have sinned for marrying two wives who were even siblings!"

Another departure from post but for the sakes of those following the thread i'll answer.

Did God call any of these perfect, such that you can truly say that these men represent God's Standard? No!

The men God who represent God's Standard who God verily declared as righteous and PERFECT are men who had only one wives or none at all. AND THEY ARE NOAH, JOB AND DANIEL

AND THEY WERE NOT KINGS!!!

So, again, you are being evil as Satan. Sin alone and stop inviting others to join you in your sins, for their bloods and deaths will be on your head just like Satan.

emmyileri:
Sorry to say Holy Spirit baptism is not the same with the baptism of fire. I did the Bible based explanation in the link that I posted. Watch the video please. You will appreciate the need of studying the Bible on your own rather than interpreting the Bible based on what others interpret it to be.

Leave video, explain it here, let us see the words and do our own matching to see if we shall have the same connections

Stargirl2011:
Okay, but can you guys fight your in the mail section? I am tierd of reading insultive replies

He insults because he has shown he is truly a devil, then i told him to his face so his devil is forced to show his evil face.

Stargirl2011:
Pleasssse stop the insults!

Its a war! Evil hates righteousness and righteousness hates the evil.

Image123:
For some reason, people believe and preach that Peter himself did not understand some of the teachings of Paul, quoting this passage. ..

Only a mad devil says so.

bobestman:
Am I the devil? Then Jacob should be a big devil for marrying a woman and his sister. David should be assistant devil for killing a man and marrying his wife. Many women will agree if they know the importance and if their religion supports it. It is done in Islam. You are the foolish devil

With your off point argument, You are the whole devil; the biggest stupidest devils in the whole universe.

bobestman:
Ok you should be facing your studies. Well am trying to teach sth with the questions. I will stop cos you are too young for it

No normal wife can ever will fully agree to give permission to her husband to cheat on her, not to even talk about permanent cheating!

See how you show you are a devil!

Westerhoffe:
This is how you fail in exams and begin to blame the lecturers/teachers, meanwhile you're the ones too daft to understand the questions set.

So, everyone is a king, a bishop, a deacon.

This is how you fall in life and everything and start blaming yourself, your parents, your country, God, everything.

Is a king, bishop, deacon not first "a one" and "a person"? Do they fall down from the skies?

Westerhoffe:
And even, GOD said, "If any man has TWO WIVES…"

I shouldn't even be replying to you… you're way too below being reasonable and interesting.

Firstly, this is off point and departure from post for the argument is whether "a king is not a one and a person among the people of Israel and not "if any has 2 wives"

Secondly, which reasonable person does not see that this is God trying to solve the problem and evil caused by adultery by marriage, exactly how He proffered a solution when a man steals because he is hungry?

If you were reasonable and just as a Christian should be you would have known that there is no reasonable argument you can make and that you are just being evil in plotting how to cover your sin of adultery.

Stop being a Satan, sin alone and stop inviting others to join you in your sins, for their bloods and deaths will be on your head just like Satan.

Ken4Christ:
He wasn't. The wives stopped giving birth and they wanted more children. So they gave their maids to Jacob to sleep with to have more children...;

"So they gave" and not "he went to get..." which you are telling people to do exactly what Satan does.

MiddleDimension:
mine is not just an opinion, it is an opinion BASED ON FACTS!

Now you lie but your lies too are still your personal opinions, so null.

Westerhoffe:
There is a difference between your 'no one' and 'he the king'.
Don't twist the Bible here.

Is the king not "a one" and "a person" like every other person and from among the people?.

Stop.being Satan, sin alone and dont invite others.

Ken4Christ:
Was he also forced to sleep with the concubines?

Did you not see that he was?

Maximus692:
Are you saying everyone is a politician?
If some women are killers my own mom isn't that's why i'm chatting with you now otherwise she should have killed me!

Is it compulsory that she must kill you to be a murderer? And the bottomline is that you have told us that if your mother is a killer/ritualist.you wont tell anyone.

Maximus692:
Whatever you mean with this is your personal opinion!

Every statement is a personal opinion, even what you have just said, so your point is null.

Maximus692:
So in other words your mom is also a killer since she's a woman, right?

In other words, you would never expose.your mother even after seeing all the bones of dead people in her wardrobe and you see her chopping another one, because she is your mother, right?

jesusjnr2020:
Unfortunately such an instance that shows where God commanded a man to listen to the voice of his wife, could hardly be found being taught in the churches these days, despite being in the Bible which they claim to be the Word of God.

They only want to remember what happened in the beginning when God rebuked and punished Adam for listening to his wife's voice, because that aligns with their misguided orientation and preconceptions about women.

They don't realize that God wasn't angry with Adam and punished Him, because it was a sin or a bad thing for a man to ever listen to his wife's voice, but that on that particular occasion his wife's voice didn't represent God's Word, but that of the devil which went against God's Word and hence made him sin against God...

Thank God, you.said "on that particular occassion"

But looking at the occasion every reasonable person saw that Abraham was definitely punishing Sarah for her sin of adultery. And that punishment ran for a long while till God came to say "it is enough and let everyone be free".

So, Abraham was clearly pubishing Sarah by showing her and allowing her to eat the fruits of her stupidity in her allowing Satan to use her to.spoil and corrupt God's Plans!

Jokerman:
Only a non Christian will support Polygamy after Jesus Christ settled the matter in Matt 19:4

And devils too.

lije:
man changed a lot of things

Man is always disobeying God and always inviting other people to join him in disobeying God. And because they become many, those coming eafter may think it has changed whereas it is just a case of a multitude of sinners sinning and forcing everyone to sin!