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Christianity EtcRe: No Grace In The Gospel Of Grace Sayin If A Believer Die In Sin, He Is Not Saved by Veecruz: 8:02am On May 11, 2024
paxonel:
This is not in anyway to condone sin.

But as Christians, we all know that unbelievers go to hellfire when they die in their sin because no Grace for them.
Another gospel of Grace teaches that a believer will also go to hellfire when he or she die in their sin. The question now is, where is then the Grace?

It's like these people love contradiction so much cheesy
You do not wholly know what grace is?

Grace is the dicretionary exercise of a right in a way that benefits another person as confirmed by your A and B definition.

Thus the grace is that even though you knew not to sin, you sinned, and you know that by Law,you must be punished for your sins, but God Rather chose to exercise another of His Rights and Powers, which is The His Right of granting Amnesty/Pardon and over ruling the Application and Execution of The Law of sin and punishment.

So if Amnesty/Pardon which was discretionarily exercised has been given you and then you return to sin, do you not place yourself at the risk of not getting that Amnesty/Pardon again?

Infact, if you already know that if you have been forgiven once, you won't get forgiveness again.

So, you know that you have exhausted and used up your grace.
PropertiesRe: Lagos Govt To Demolish Unapproved Buildings After Amnesty Period — Lagos Govt by Veecruz: 7:00am On May 09, 2024
They have finished flexing their power now its time to Bite!
RomanceRe: My Thoughts On Religion by Veecruz: 9:26pm On May 08, 2024
Another Failure complaining!
CrimeRe: Christopher Gilbert Pushed Into A Lake By His Friends Makes Remarkable Recovery by Veecruz: 1:03pm On May 08, 2024
ELKHALIFAISIS:
Miracle no dey tire Jesus
Na una dey make people abuse God.
CrimeRe: Christopher Gilbert Pushed Into A Lake By His Friends Makes Remarkable Recovery by Veecruz: 1:02pm On May 08, 2024
See Fabu!

Yesterday "brain dead"

Today."making full.revovery"

After about 20 minutes under water?

Men, Lies are too much now. its like they don't want us ....
EducationRe: Ekiti University Expels 2 Students Over Bullying by Veecruz: 12:53pm On May 08, 2024
Stupid judgment now they have killed Ajayi.

And using their own judgment, they are accomplices to her murder.

See why God Said "Judge not", especially as you wont judge righteously?
Christianity EtcRe: Jacob In The Bible Vs Jacob In The Qur'an (did The Qur'an Copy The Bible?) by Veecruz: 12:46pm On May 08, 2024
Here is a devil looking for strife and hatred as Prophecied!

2 Timothy 2:23-25 - But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strife

1 Timothy 6:4 - He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
Christianity EtcRe: Jacob In The Bible Vs Jacob In The Qur'an (did The Qur'an Copy The Bible?) by Veecruz: 12:33pm On May 08, 2024
So you confess that islam doctored the bible so that it would look better and acceptable.

Which is why your koran is a Lie and the bible is True because Truth speaks the Truth, even if the such information might be viewed as bad

The truth is still the truth, even if it is biitter. A lie. is still a lie, even if it is sweet!
FamilyRe: How Can He Take Custody Of His Son by Veecruz: 4:37pm On May 07, 2024
fyzaila:
The boy is still very young quite alright, but with a good lawyer you can win the case with this evidence and provided you have a significant and well trusted someone who can take care of the baby very well.

The mother is very careless. Guys should stop jumping into marriage for one useless reason or the other. Don't just choose a wife, choose a good mother for your child please.
When you people say good lawyer, what do you mean? What argument would your good lawyer make which this lawyer did not do?

Are you not now partaking in the destruction and corruption of the judiciary?
Christianity EtcRe: Noah : Similarities With Ancient Near Eastern Mythology by Veecruz: 4:24pm On May 07, 2024
Lucifyre:
And lastly the fact that similar motifs with differing accounts never serves as proof for said motif. Does the fact we have a motifs across different cultures that say the world was created from Chaos mean its true?! The dragon slayer motif across different cultures means dragons exist?! The fact that we have stories from different cultures about the journies to the underworld means it exists and u go and return?! Come on! The ironic thing been even the point of the flood was defeated.
Your problem is you are so destroyed with lies and you love liez that you no longer know what is True.

I bet you can't even tell the if a mechanic coming to.repair your vehicle on the road, is a mechanic.

Truth can only be seen by those with truth in them. He who does not have Truth in his heart, will always be blind to it.
Suzy Kassem,

And if you do not like the bible why do you not live your life like the bible does not exist?
Christianity EtcRe: Noah : Similarities With Ancient Near Eastern Mythology by Veecruz: 3:10pm On May 07, 2024
FxMasterz:
The fact that many ancient cultures hold this myth in their tradition is evident that something like that took place. It happened. The striking similarities between the narrations also proves it happened as these stories are not by people who sat down at the same table to formulate the same myth.
Exactly what i was coming to say.
FamilyRe: Marital Rape: Indian Court Rules Against Wife Who Sued Husband For Forced Sex by Veecruz: 6:45am On May 07, 2024
Timoleon:
Should the judge make judgement contrary to the constitution of the land?
Sure he can.
RomanceRe: What Does It Mean If You Finish Having Sex With A Lady And She Said This by Veecruz: 7:47pm On May 06, 2024
[quote author=Popesuccess post=129817706][/quote]Too late! Otilor
RomanceRe: What Does It Mean If You Finish Having Sex With A Lady And She Said This by Veecruz: 7:47pm On May 06, 2024
See simps still thinking it is physical.
CareerRe: Employer Drags 2 Hungry Staff To Court For Stealing Loaves Of Bread Worth N2,600 by Veecruz: 7:03pm On May 06, 2024
Whick kain evil magistrate be dat? How e go slam N50k for N2,600 crime?

O Lord let Angel blow end of match make dis wicked people burn.
Christianity EtcRe: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 7:18am On Apr 30, 2024
Caleycash:
Lol... you no get talk again!
Why i go talk again wen talk don finish?
Christianity EtcRe: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 7:17am On Apr 30, 2024
otipoju:
When David was condemned by God for killing Uriah...he was told that "I gave you you masters wives...if you wanted more, I would have given you."
See, you refused to answer the question on Deuteronomy 17:17 like the others before you in my thread!
https://www.nairaland.com/8032594/deuteronomy-17-17-shows-god#128966884

Also in my.thread i answered

if God truly had given David people's wives, then why would God still go ahead and accuse him of taking someone's wife?

otipoju:
Paul was not a lawyer. Stop saying B.S. He learned the Torah under Gamaliel just like an aspiring Reverend today would learn the Old Testament scriptures
Google answers
At age thirteen Saul was sent to Israel to learn from a rabbi named Gamaliel, under whom Saul mastered Jewish history, the Psalms, and the works of the prophets. His education would continue for five or six years, and then Saul went on to become a lawyer.

otipoju:
And who said Lawyers prove truth and lies? Don't make me laugh. A lot of you are the most dishonest bunch of human beings that were ever created.

Most of you look for loop holes in events and arguments to create doubt and let the guilty go scotsfree and have little or no regard for the truth...as long as you get paid for twisting the truth.
In all these actions, is it not a case of someone is lying and someone is saying the Truth, which is what The Judge has to judge between the lawyer's cases?

otipoju:
Who you want dey impress?
From the abundance of the heart
So you obvioisly gave your qualification because you were trying to impress and intimidate me and here was i thinking that you were a great expert on these matters so that i should know what i am up against in going against you, and so i answered back that i could take you on.

And now you have gone beserk and res ipsa loquitur occurs.

No vex, hunkle know it all. Thank God, The Mighty and The Most Justest Judge dey come judge all dese rubbish wey people dey do and dose wey dey go everlasting prison of Fire, dem know already!
Christianity EtcRe: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 6:46am On Apr 30, 2024
drlateef:
In other words you imply that Jesus condemned polygamy practiced by prophets before him. Yet jesus said he had not come to condemn the laws and previous prophets. Your error is by universally applying a simple statement of behaviour, not polygamy. Polygamy is not a behaviour and in the context that Jesus used that sentence, he was not referring to polygamy. Your interpretation of that statement is faulty and wrong.
See Deviation! Now you see that Jesus did condemn polygamy and now you have switched it to prophets practicing polygamy and condemning Law, because you cannot answer.

Was Jesus' speaking to prophets when He answered up there?

Or which prophet in the bible did you see polygamize? And where did you see Jesus condemn the prophet.

You have nothing to say for you already know what is good and evil and The Judgment of God and you cannot lie or deceive God!
Christianity EtcRe: Another Proof Of Eve's Adultery Is Men's Affinity For Polygamy/cheating by Veecruz: 6:27am On Apr 30, 2024
Ken4Christ:
Lies from the pit of hell. It's not consistent with other portions of the Bible. God created sex to be enjoyed but within the confines of marriage. God every prescribed one year Honey moon for married couples in the Law of Moses. This shows how much God wants couples to enjoy sex. So, sex cannot be the forbidden fruit.
Knee jerk reaction to Truth!

Off point! You do not state how and why it is a Lie.

Ken4Christ:
God never even said don't touch it.Eve wasn't there when God gave the instruction to Adam. So, she added that part just as most information are usually distorted when it passes through different media.
If she added that part has she not Lied (blasphemed) against God, and also be in trouble with God for adding to His Word?

When you tell your children not to.take your car, would you not even add "don't even touch the key"?

Do you pretend also not to see that God regularly visits them from time to time therefore He would repeat it to her just to be certain that she was aware?

Tertullian: “The first reaction to truth is hatred.”
RomanceRe: (OPINION) Don't be deceived, Polygamy is not a sin? by Veecruz: 5:59am On Apr 30, 2024
Toks2008:
You wrote all these historical, rhetorical and ecclesiastical mumbo jumbo yet you failed to address the main crux of the matter.

IS POLYGAMY A SIN ?

iF YES please quote a scripture that specifically says so and i will give you $500. If i don't please call me out on nairaland and any social media platform.

Please avoid quoting me any longer except you have the scriptural reference. Cheers.
See grammar, all because you already know you are very very wrong and cannot validly and Trutfully argue against it.

Did i no show you it is a sin on the other thread because it contains adultery, lust, unfaithfulness, covenant breaking, lying, defilement.of the marriage bed etc? as proven by this man

Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022
Trustedapparel:
I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month .... honestly[b] I want to make her my second wife[/b]....she has agreed that she will b my second....but some of my family' n friends are not in support of it....

Which normal person cannot see the sins he commits along the way.to his polygamy?

There is nothing in the Bible about sex slavery.Using, and producing, pornography,
Using sexual images or other sex stimuli to sell merchandise,, yet every reasonable person can immediately tell they are sins.

So stop doing evil by promoting the commision of sin else you and satan will have the same punishment.
Christianity EtcRe: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz(op):
Westerhoffe:
Jacob indeed wanted Rachel because she was the one he met first, fell in love with, and wanted...
See madness!

Did i say otherwise?

Without disagreement person no go know say you be mad person! No wonder the mad repetiion.

Hmm! Nna many are mad but they speak english.
Christianity EtcRe: See How Polygamist Have Secretly Changed The Meaning Of Adultery by Veecruz(op): 4:29pm On Apr 29, 2024
Westerhoffe:
Where in the Bible did GOD declare a man having more than one wife as unrighteousness?
As you begin your madness of repeating yourself, repeat my last answer

" If you truly knew what all unrighteosness is and you saw the list of thngs described as unrighteousnesses, then you would have seen that a person must do those things listed as unrighteosnesses on his way to commit the sin of bigamy aka polygamy.

On and on and on for as long as your madness carries you. grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 4:19pm On Apr 29, 2024
bomsilaga:
1 Cor 7: 6: but I speak this by permission and not of commandment. I don't know where you are reading from
I said before verse 6, that is 1 Cor 7:1-5!
Christianity EtcRe: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 4:13pm On Apr 29, 2024
Caleycash:
Same way you all should start paying groom price, build house, bring money home to sustain the family and finally protect the family and nation at large, but guess what, NO!, you all craves and loves a man's money and protection, that's the reality... IT DOESN'T GO BOTH WAYS!!!
;See how you prove.that man is not fair and just person? Thank God, God is a Just and imparttial!

Anyway, proverbs 31 has said it all.
Christianity EtcRe: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz:
otipoju:
That was to the person who will become King of Israel and it also said not to multiply gold and silver to himself.. so by your logic, being rich is sin...
Logic would have told you that that is The Law against embezzlement and i believe you saw that, but this is offpoint.

Back to the issue, where was the king to come from? Is it from the sky or from the people?

otipoju:
Paul also recommended christians not to marry at all. I hope you read your Bible well. So in your illogical way of thinking. Marriage for a man is a sin...because Paul said s
Off point! You said "the only verse that backs one man, one wife came from Jesus," and i only pointed out that Paul restated it. EOStory.

otipoju:
Friendly advice...the person you are talking to spent 5 years of is life in a classroom in a University studying Religion. So you better be sure of of what you are saying.
grin.Same thing you should know. After 5 years of Law and Law school, we lawyers never stop reading and learning and proving Truths or Lies, whichever is in issue..

And remember, Paul is a lawyer, so i know all he has in mind because His Letters are a Lawyer's letters and not an ordinary layman's letter, which is why Peter warned laypeople to be careful of Paul's teachings for it is only a learned person who can accurately, tell you what it means.
Science/TechnologyRe: Why Is There Sun In The Space And The Space Is Still Very Dark by Veecruz: 11:52am On Apr 29, 2024
You don go space go see am?
Christianity EtcRe: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 11:49am On Apr 29, 2024
otipoju:
The only verse that actually backs one man one wife came from the mouth of Jesus...
So Paul did not say one man one wife?

Or you did not see The Commandnent "Neither shall he multiply wives to himself" abi?
Christianity EtcRe: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 11:43am On Apr 29, 2024
Ronpet777:
The issue is a sensitive one. I did an extensive research on this matter and realise that , polygamy was never condemned in the bible. It is only advised to stick to one to avoid issues. But the one new generation Christians carry it ehn, you will think it is next to murder.
Research some more if you truly want to be fair and do justice to this matter.

And join us in this thread if you thibk your research is True, because even here no one can show how they can do polygamy without breaking God's Law eg law of adultery, lust, covenant breaking, Lying etc.

https://www.nairaland.com/8050679/see-how-polygamist-secretly-changed/3#129688197
Christianity EtcRe: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 11:35am On Apr 29, 2024
Caleycash:
No correlation!... most of you are hell bound to dispute the fact and truth, if you can be so lose to leave your husband and cheat with another man and he stabs you to death that's surely what you deserve, if you feel you don't want him again, divorce and leave!, the truth remains the truth!
The correlation is what you do to others should be done to you.

So if you can be so lose to leave your wife and cheat with another woman and she stabs you to death, you deserve it. if you feel you don't want her again, divorce and leave!, the truth remains the truth, and a Just judge will swing
it goes both ways"
Christianity EtcRe: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 11:31am On Apr 29, 2024
verdade:
That's the problem with Nigerians, they say things without prove.. They read and don't understand.
What do you mean without proof when these things are seen everyday on the streets, offices, clubs, markets, fuel stations etc?

You want to carry wives, carry but stop pretending as if you do not already know that you are doing evil and breaking many of God's Laws along with it.
Christianity EtcRe: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz:
bomsilaga:
He has told you that it was his opinion but yet you still want to make it the gold standard.
Before verse 6 was that not imply that he was expressing The Commandment?

"let every husband render unto the wife (not wife or wives but the wife) due benevolence : a.d likewise the wife (not wife and wives) unto the husband (not husband or hisbands)

The wife does not own her body, it belongs to the husband (not husbamd or husnands but the husband) and the husband does not his body but the wife. (not wife or wives but the wife)

And this is The Law, which a just and fair Person like God nust give!
Christianity EtcRe: No Prophet Married Only One Wife In The Bible - Olatosho Oshoffa by Veecruz: 8:45am On Apr 29, 2024
drlateef:
Thats the implication of what you said. Jesus never condemned polygamy nor spoke against it. Only paul did. What does that mean to you?
I showed you Jesus impliedly did when He Said "do unto others what you wamt done to you".

And you want extra wives but you are not going to allow your wife extra husbands like this man https://www.nairaland.com/8075955/husband-stabs-wife-death-over#129680787

So, clearly, if you cannot bear your wife's polygamy, then don't do your own polygamy
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