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PoliticsRe: I Pay More In Tax Than Atiku, Nairabet Owner Comes For Atiku by Vested(m): 5:01pm On Oct 26, 2018
Why is Akin Alabi talking like a layman?

Who doesn't know that gambling and lottery companies pay more taxes than your normal mainstream businesses?

This is just a politically induced post. EOD!
Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Uebert Angel: God Never Told A Woman To Love Her Husband by Vested(m): 12:23pm On Oct 25, 2018
Husbands should love their wife.
The wives are then expected to be submissive.

Naturally, when a wife feels loved by her husband, she becomes submissive naturally.
CareerRe: Ex-Nigeria Airways Workers Get Payment Alerts, Laud Buhari by Vested(m): 11:49am On Oct 25, 2018
Why do we have to see this news everyday?
This thing has been on Front Page everyday for the past 1 week plus.

BMC, we know he has released their pension and we acknowledge that it is commendable. Now, can we move to another cogent matter?

Haba!
BusinessRe: AMCON Releases Names Of 105 Persons Who Owe N906b by Vested(m): 7:18pm On Oct 22, 2018
Ugosample:
yea


Banks are NOT public assets

Well until the govt takes over the bank in its entirety, not "bailing" the banks alone

That is what I want the other guy to know
Well said and noted...

Also note that even when bailed, the Government (which is a representative of the public) becomes an influencing stakeholder by virtue of that bailout.
Bailout is not free tissue to wipe away the Managers/Directors shit. Someone has to pay for it by way of finance and/or legal prosecutions were found necessary.
BusinessRe: AMCON Releases Names Of 105 Persons Who Owe N906b by Vested(m): 1:14pm On Oct 22, 2018
onegig:
World over banks are LIKE public assets. Yes they may be owned by private individuals but their importance to the economy of any country makes the risks they pose a lot higher than your normal run of the mill Enterprise. They deal with more of perceived TRUST and once that is removed you have nothing left.

More reason they are treated specially. A single failed bank in a country can bring the whole financial system of that country to it's knees. Same way you would see government policing critical assets like Power grids and pipelines even if they are owned by the private sector.

Are these costs being incurred to service these facilities not part of our Commonwealth? The 900billion tied up and being held by AMCON as bad debts is being funded by who exactly?

Where does AMCON gets its running costs from ? Isn't it the National Purse? So how does the actions of these few people not affect the Commonwealth of the others?

That's the question the guy should answer.
We are on the same path but I wanted to stress that it's a little bit of here and there.

You're both not wrong. However, none of the extremes you and Ugosample stated are independent of each other. They become one and the same since Government funds are used to bail out the troubled bank.

That is the reason why when a troubled bank is bailed, the managers/directors of the bank as well as the managers/directors of the defaulting companies are usually investigated and prosecuted where necessary.
BusinessRe: AMCON Releases Names Of 105 Persons Who Owe N906b by Vested(m): 1:07pm On Oct 22, 2018
Boss13:
Unfortunately, my statement still stands true. It’s not your business. You are not the credit lender. That’s the job of the creditor; to ensure that loan utilization is 100%. Where loan utilization is not 100%, the credit risk inherent to a loan begins to crystallize and that’s the reason why credit facilitators/lenders/financial institutions request for Security to imitigate their credit risk exposure.

Business decisions may go wrong. External indicators may go against a business or proper forecasting and planning was not done. Possibly, the business maybe run by rogues who do not want to pay. These risks are what credit lenders must consider before lending. Now, if you review the names listed, you will observe a common trait amongst the lenders - They are credit rogues. The question you should be asking is why do credit facilitators disburse credit to these people?
I never said it was my business or any one's. It always behoves the creditor to do due diligence before giving out a loan.
However, I still insist that, where the Government gives a bail out, which is usually from tax payers' money, investigations would be carried out in order to ensure that due diligence was carried out in the disbursement and utilisation of that bad loan in the first place. Where discrepancies are discovered, managers and/or directors of the said troubled firm are made to pay via the law. The introduction of tax payers' funds are no longer the bank's business alone.

That is why AMCON, as an arm of the Government, can make public, information as this published by the OP. The Government in this case, has become a creditor by way of the bail out funds. Bail out funds made it the public's business; Simple and Short.
BusinessRe: AMCON Releases Names Of 105 Persons Who Owe N906b by Vested(m): 11:03am On Oct 22, 2018
Boss13:
It is not your business how private borrrowers utilize loans being disbursed to them, especially when you are not the creditor who had considered them creditworthy to provide such credit facility to them in the first place.
This is the reason why our society is where it is at the moment.
What happened to those who managed the Lehmann Brothers in America as well as other companies that were bailed in the last recession? Do you think Government gave them free money to bail themselves without being accountable for pervious mismanagement of loans in the past?

Why do you think the law in the West expects a company going down to file for bankruptcy? Do you think it's just a mere formality?
BusinessRe: AMCON Releases Names Of 105 Persons Who Owe N906b by Vested(m): 10:26am On Oct 22, 2018
onegig:
You are the one that needs to learn.

Banks are like public assets. Also the NDIC which is a government entity insure depositors funds in banks. If banks should fail they would have to pay depositors and most times these monies are gotten from the public purse.

Also a failed bank can cause a spiral effect on the financial system of a country. You want to go back to the 2008 recession and see that one of the causes was banks lending money they did not have to entities who bought worthless hyper inflated stocks. It is like you using your money to buy your own stocks over and over and over again this increasing the worth while there is no correlated cash inflows to show these appreciation.

Also AMCON would have to buy those bad debts except they want the banks to go under and these are our Commonwealth
Both you and Ugosample are right.

However, in your case, you must understand that inasmuch as the government bails the bank in cases of bad loans, it is in a bid to stabilize the economy and not because they handed money to the banks before then to give to businesses.
Where I could agree more with you is if those loans were misappropriated and government has to bail the bank or company out, then managers of those businesses ought to face the wrath of the law for such misappropriation of funds.

Unfortunately, the rule of law is weak over here. People can use commercial loans for burial ceremonies and get away with it, and even go ahead to brag on it. On the other hand, the small tax payer will get a loan on same high interest and end up prosecuted unfailingly if he doesn't meet up payment of his small loans.

The Nigerian case is so peculiar because of corruption and failed leadership.
BusinessRe: AMCON Releases Names Of 105 Persons Who Owe N906b by Vested(m): 10:00am On Oct 22, 2018
This is a clear definition of Pareto's Principle of 80/20 or 90/10, whichever suits you.


In a country of over 180million people, a mere 105 people owe 905 billion naira.
Nairaland GeneralRe: Something Is Generally Wrong With Nigerians!!! by Vested(m): 9:23am On Oct 22, 2018
*Failed Leadership.
*Poor Orientation coming down from years of improper or no enforcement of guiding laws and regulation.
*Weak and in some cases, ineffective justice system.

Quality leadership will create proper laws and ENSURE that they are enforced. When there is a lack of political will to enforce guiding laws and regulations in all sphere of life, the people will tend to act lawless. Remember, Man is selfish naturally.

Education will come in next in order to change the orientation of people in a society. However, this is heavily dependent on the las paragraph. When proper laws are created and enforced, education will help people to understand that it's no longer business as usual and also guide on proper conduct.

Whether you love it or not, a strong justice system is paramount to building a sustainable community. Unfortunately, Justice and law enforcement is not cheap. That is why you see that an Ibori can be tried with Government money over in the UK while over here, our Police Stations cannot afford to provide witness statement sheets for recording of witness statements.

Also, you must understand that corruption starts like a drop of water and it is cheaper to nip it in the bud early as when it grows out of hand, it becomes very expensive (just like the Nigerian case) to curtail, not to talk of extinguish.

In summary, we need to vote in the right leaders so that we can have people respect the laws of the land. The right leadership strengthens the rule of law and ensures that it (the rule of law) has the bite to prosecute law breakers whether big or small.
Corruption didn't start this big. It always starts as a drop of water or a little bribe here and there.

With our current state at the moment, technology is the cheapest way we can catch up with the west in terms of enforcing the rule of law.

When I do have more references, I'll modify this comment or create a new comment.
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Nbrown:
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Nice and sharp transaction.
...Very Transparent too.
Thanks, Nbrown.

I'll surely run more transactions with you in the future.
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BusinessRe: ➜ ➜ ➜Currency/E-currency Market Deals➜ ➜ ➜ by Vested(m): 1:33pm On Oct 21, 2018
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msm98580:
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Ok
I'll chat you up.
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PoliticsRe: Plot To Impeach Gov Ambode Thickens by Vested(m): 9:58am On Oct 21, 2018
I don't understand most of the comments here...

However, after reading the post, I'll boldly tell all APC actors and co in Lagos to just shut up and take their beef out of the newspapers as I'm tired of hearing all these very now and then.

All you see in the whole article is stark selfishness. Lagosians are just having the short end of the stick and it has been so since 1999. In fact, these politicians should just be cleared from the face of the earth.
EducationRe: How Many Times Did You Sit For Jamb? by Vested(m): 8:09am On Oct 20, 2018
amamahdaniel:
4* 2011 2012 2013. After getting my OND. I STILL WENT AND WROTE JAMB THIS 2018. NOW AM A STUDENT OF MECHANICAL Engineering in one of the best Federal university
I like your doggedness.
Rare indeed!
AutosRe: Toks Mercedes E320 2005 model SOLD by Vested(op): 9:33am On Oct 13, 2018
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AutosRe: Toks Mercedes E320 2005 model SOLD by Vested(op): 10:09am On Oct 07, 2018
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PoliticsRe: Agbaje, Doherty Battle For Lagos PDP Governorship Ticket by Vested(m): 9:01am On Oct 05, 2018
Diamond360:
I hate to say that Lagos is for apc though
Exactly...
PDP has lost more ground in Lagos than acquired since 2015 and they don't even know it yet.
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Vested:
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Location: Apapa.
PoliticsRe: Imo APC Primary: Okorocha Calls For Gulak’s Arrest by Vested(m): 7:02pm On Oct 03, 2018
This Gulak story is a comedy on its own.
How were results produced in the bush biko?
grin grin grin
SportsRe: Cristiano Ronaldo Speaks On Rape Allegation, Says He’s Not Going To Feed Media by Vested(m): 5:39pm On Oct 03, 2018
LifestyleTonite:
Feeding the media means the case will continue to boil.

The media is never satisfied. All they want is content to keep their business running.

A Ronaldo content is highly good.

lalasticlala
He has no option but to give a response, any response.
PoliticsRe: Ambode, A Governor Who Couldn't Secure Second Term (touching Video) by Vested(m): 5:06pm On Oct 03, 2018
Ambode must have really crossed the party machinery in Lagos state for him to lose that seat.
For him to lose woefully on a direct primary system , it was obvious the party had left him. It wasn't all about Tinubu. After all, it was Tinubu's Alpha Beta that was squeezed into the revised Land Use Charge law that also increased Land Use Charge in the state.

I believe Tinubu was smart to go with the tide in order to keep his Godfather image intact as he was forced to choose between Ambode and the Grassroots Party Machinery.
Unfortunately, Lagos State has become a mini China - a state with a one-party system.
I do not see, in the near future, how any opposition party can change that as the party has its members in every sphere of the state , most especially, the civil service.

The Lagos Political Machine , which was built by Tinubu, has become bigger than any individual person. Even Tinubu himself cannot go against that ruthless machine. Ambode's fate was expected.

Best wishes to the people of Lagos State now and in the future.
AutosRe: Toks Mercedes E320 2005 model SOLD by Vested(op): 9:20am On Oct 01, 2018
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AutosRe: Toks Mercedes E320 2005 model SOLD by Vested(op): 10:32am On Sep 28, 2018
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PoliticsRe: Davido: No PDP Agent In Ward 007, 012 In Olode, Ife South LGA - Davido Tweets by Vested(m): 2:15pm On Sep 27, 2018
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You'll then understand that this election is a "deadbeat" election grin (Make I borrow Wizkid babymama's language for here).

Mehn... I feel for the people of Osun finally.
Technology MarketRe: HP Pavilion - 15-au185na Laptop For Sale @ 150k by Vested(op): 11:19am On Sep 27, 2018
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