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Religion / How Well Do U Listen To God by vindale: 6:18pm On Aug 27, 2009 |
A young man had been to Wednesday Night Bible Study. The Pastor had shared about listening to God and obeying the Lord's voice The young man couldn't help but wonder, 'Does God still speak to people?' After service, he went out with some friends for coffee and pie and they discussed the message. Several different ones talked about how God had led them in different ways. It was about ten o'clock when the young man started driving home. Sitting in his car, he just began to pray, 'God, If you still speak t o people, speak to me. I will listen. I will do my best to obey.' As he drove down the main street of his town, he had the strangest thought to stop and buy a gallon of milk. He shook his head and said out loud, 'God is that you?' He didn't get a reply and started on toward home. But again, the thought, buy a gallon of milk. The young man thought about Samuel and how he didn't recognize the voice of God, and how little Samuel ran to Eli. 'Okay, God, in case that is you, I will buy the milk.' It didn't seem like too hard a test of obedience. He could always use the milk. He stopped and purchased the gallon of milk and started off toward home. As he passed Seventh Street, he again felt the urge, 'Turn Down that street.' This is crazy he thought, and drove on past the intersection. Again, he felt that he should turn down Seventh Street . At the next intersection, he turned back and headed down Seventh. Half jokingly, he said out loud, 'Okay, God, I will.' He drove several blocks, when suddenly, he felt like he should stop He pulled over to the curb and looked around. He was in a semi- commercial area of town. It wasn't the best but it wasn't the worst of neighborhoods either. The businesses were closed and most of the houses looked dark like the people were already in bed. Again, he sensed something, 'Go and give the milk to the people in the house across the street.' The young man looked at the house. It was dark and it looked like the people were either gone or they were already asleep. He started to open the door and then sat back in the car seat. 'Lord, this is insane. Those people are asleep and if I wake them up, they are going to be mad and I will look stupid.' Again, he felt like he should go and give the milk. Finally, he opened the door, 'Okay God, if this is you, I will go to the door and I will give them the milk. If you want me to look like a crazy person, okay. I want to be obedient. I guess that will count for something, but if they don't answer right away, I am out of here.' He walked across the street and rang the bell. He could hear some noise inside. A man's voice yelled out, 'Who is it? What do you want?' Then the door opened before the young man could get away. The man was standing there in his jeans and T-shirt. He looked like he just got out of bed. He had a strange look on his face and he didn't seem too happy to have some stranger standing on his doorstep. 'What is it?' The young man thrust out the gallon of milk, 'Here, I brought this to you.' The man took the milk and rushed down a hallway. Then from down the hall came a woman carrying the milk toward the kitchen. The man was following her holding a baby. The baby was crying. The man had tears streaming down his face. The man began speaking and half crying, 'We were just praying. We had some big bills this month and we ran out of money. We didn't have any milk for our baby. I was just praying and asking God to show me how to get some milk.' His wife in the kitchen yelled out, 'I ask him to send an Angel with some. Are you an Angel?' The young man reached into his wallet and pulled out all the money he had on him and put in the man's hand. He turned and walked back toward his car and the tears were streaming down his face. He knew that God still answers prayers. warm regards |
Romance / Re: Can You Date A 16 Year Old Girl? by vindale: 12:27am On Aug 27, 2009 |
Theres no big deal nowadays ojare the person am dating , our ages are 8 yrs apart, so, nufn dey happen |
Jobs/Vacancies / Very Urgent Jobs In Tv/film Company by vindale: 9:16pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
a TV/Film production company requires the services of Business development executives to uplift the face of its business. Education: Minimum of First degree in English/Mass Comunication or any professional certificate in script writing or TV Production.Minimum of 2 yrs relevant experience is essential. Required Skills: * Creative Skills,Good Computer Skills * Good Computer Skills * Interpersonal Skills * Communication-Oral and written * Effective Planning and organisation. The succesful candidate will be driven by targets on business performance. Interested candidates should appear for a walk-in interview with their CVs between Thursday 27th of August 2009 and Friday 4th September 2009 between 3pm and 4pm each day. Mark Calthers Consulting 51 Isaac John Street Fadeyi (top floor) Lagos. Contact: Patrick |
Jobs/Vacancies / Nahco Is Recruiting by vindale: 9:06pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
1. RISK MANAGER Qualifications: a. Bachelor degree or its equivalence with major course work in business administration, Certification in Risk Management is compulsory. b. minimum of 3 years cognate experience 2. IT AUDITOR Qualification: a. Bachelor degree in Computer science, System Engineering ir related field. Must be a CISA qualified and at least 3 years IT Experience. Must have knowledge of CobiT4.1. Network security and DbMS. 3. AUDIT OFFICERS Qualification: a. Bachelor degree or its equivalence in Finance /Accounts with a minimum of 2 yrs audit experience. send your CV to vacancies@nahco.com on or before September 04, 2009. Only shortlisted candidates will be contacted. |
Career / Re: Subsea, Mud, Reservoir, Pipeline, Petroleum, Drilling Engineers & Supervisors Zone by vindale: 8:51pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
What about Graduates of Petroleum Engineering? Will cert in Pipeline design and Pdms aid employment and increase ones chances of success in the long run |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Emzor Pharma Recruiting: Legit by vindale: 5:03pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Gud luck peeps |
Jokes Etc / Re: Schools In India by vindale: 4:53pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
DON FASZY: meaning |
Jokes Etc / Re: Schools In India by vindale: 4:14pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
The bottom line is that the school is beta than some govt pry,sec or evn polytechnics in Naija fact |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Financial Institution Needs Business Development Executive Urgently by vindale: 4:11pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Incomplete!!!!!! How do they apply? |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Vacancy/Career Pages Of All Nigerian Companies by vindale: 4:04pm On Aug 26, 2009 |
Seun: Na simple NDLEA u no fit find out, I dey fear, if i paste am, U fit bind me for anoda 2 yrs say i dey post spam So, until i get assurance, |
Business / The 22 Rules Of Trading by vindale: 4:50pm On Aug 25, 2009 |
I give you Master Trader "My Mentor's" 22 Rules of Trading, many of which you can apply to all sorts of life situations, as well as the markets. Every day, My Mentor gets up at bout 2:30 AM and writes an information packed 4 page newsletter on the world markets, oil, currencies, commodities political happenings and much more. He is read by the major trading houses and traders all over the world, as they stumble bleary eyed into work, grabbing his Report to find out what happened as they slept and to get insight as to what the issues of the day will be, and suggestions on how to trade. My Mentor puts his trades on public display and talks you through his logic. It is a most remarkable work, and I find it a key part of my struggle in trying to keep up with what is going on. I am always amazed when on the occasions I find myself in the office at an early hour to find My Master's letter hit my inbox about 5:00 AM. His travel schedule makes mine look tame, and from wherever in the world he finds himself, he writes and sends his letter. And he still maintains a single digit handicap on the golf course. On the Friday after Thanksgiving, he publishes his "Rules of Trading," adding to them as wisdom increases. Here is today's list: 1. Never, under any circumstance add to a losing position, ever! Nothing more need be said; to do otherwise will eventually and absolutely lead to ruin! 2. Trade like a mercenary guerrilla. We must fight on the winning side and be willing to change sides readily when one side has gained the upper hand. 3. Capital comes in two varieties: Mental and that which is in your pocket or account. Of the two types of capital, the mental is the more important and expensive of the two. Holding to losing positions costs measurable sums of actual capital, but it costs immeasurable sums of mental capital. 4. The objective is not to buy low and sell high, but to buy high and to sell higher. We can never know what price is "low." Nor can we know what price is "high." Always remember that sugar once fell from $1.25/lb to 2 cent/lb and seemed "cheap" many times along the way. 5. In bull markets we can only be long or neutral, and in bear markets we can only be short or neutral. That may seem self-evident; it is not, and it is a lesson learned too late by far too many. 6. "Markets can remain illogical longer than you or I can remain solvent," according to our good friend, Dr. A. Gary Shilling. Illogic often reigns and markets are enormously inefficient despite what the academics believe. 7. Sell markets that show the greatest weakness, and buy those that show the greatest strength. Metaphorically, when bearish, throw your rocks into the wettest paper sack, for they break most readily. In bull markets, we need to ride upon the strongest winds, they shall carry us higher than shall lesser ones. 8. Try to trade the first day of a gap, for gaps usually indicate violent new action. We have come to respect "gaps" in our nearly thirty years of watching markets; when they happen (especially in stocks) they are usually very important. 9. Trading runs in cycles: some good; most bad. Trade large and aggressively when trading well; trade small and modestly when trading poorly. In "good times," even errors are profitable; in "bad times" even the most well researched trades go awry. This is the nature of trading; accept it. 10. To trade successfully, think like a fundamentalist; trade like a technician. It is imperative that we understand the fundamentals driving a trade, but also that we understand the market's technicals. When we do, then, and only then, can we or should we, trade. 11. Respect "outside reversals" after extended bull or bear runs. Reversal days on the charts signal the final exhaustion of the bullish or bearish forces that drove the market previously. Respect them, and respect even more "weekly" and "monthly," reversals. 12. Keep your technical systems simple. Complicated systems breed confusion; simplicity breeds elegance. 13. Respect and embrace the very normal 50-62% retracements that take prices back to major trends. If a trade is missed, wait patiently for the market to retrace. Far more often than not, retracements happen, just as we are about to give up hope that they shall not. 14. An understanding of mass psychology is often more important than an understanding of economics. Markets are driven by human beings making human errors and also making super-human insights. 15. Establish initial positions on strength in bull markets and on weakness in bear markets. The first "addition" should also be added on strength as the market shows the trend to be working. Henceforth, subsequent additions are to be added on retracements. 16. Bear markets are more violent than are bull markets and so also are their retracements. 17. Be patient with winning trades; be enormously impatient with losing trades. Remember it is quite possible to make large sums trading/investing if we are "right" only 30% of the time, as long as our losses are small and our profits are large. 18. The market is the sum total of the wisdom , and the ignorance, of all of those who deal in it; and we dare not argue with the market's wisdom. If we learn nothing more than this we've learned much indeed. 19. Do more of that which is working and less of that which is not: If a market is strong, buy more; if a market is weak, sell more. New highs are to be bought; new lows sold. 20. The hard trade is the right trade: If it is easy to sell, don't; and if it is easy to buy, don't. Do the trade that is hard to do and that which the crowd finds objectionable. Peter Steidelmeyer taught us this twenty five years ago and it holds truer now than then. 21. There is never one cockroach! This is the "winning" new rule submitted by our friend, Tom Powell. 22. All rules are meant to be broken: The trick is knowing when, and how infrequently this rule may be invoked! Culled from "Naijas trader community" |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Career Websites Of The 25 Banks In Nigeria by vindale: 4:46pm On Aug 25, 2009 |
Nice 1. cheers |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: God Has Blessed Me With A Good Bank PHB Job 2009 by vindale: 4:44pm On Aug 25, 2009 |
I rejoice with u, God will do for us and others |
Jobs/Vacancies / Emzor Pharma Recruiting: Legit by vindale: 6:43pm On Aug 24, 2009 |
EMZOR PHARMA OFFERS A HARMONIOUS WORKING ENVIRONMENT WITH A CLEAR CAREER PATH. OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM PURSUES THE EMZOR PHARMA MISSION & VALUES ON A DAILY BASIS AND WELCOMES YOUR INQUIRIES. WE ARE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER AND OFFER MANY BENEFITS TO EMPLOYEES INCLUDING: • PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT • MULTI-SKILLING • CHALLENGING WORK ENVIRONMENT RECRUITMENT IS BASED ON MERIT COMPETENCE AND IS HIGHLY COMPETITIVE. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING THE EMZOR PHARMA TEAM, CHECK OUT CURRENT JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND APPLY TODAY! CAREER OPPORTUNITIES FOLLOWING ARE SOME CURRENT JOB OPENINGS AND OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN EMZOR PHARMA. WE ALWAYS WELCOME QUALIFIED CANDIDATES SO PLEASE CONTACT US EVEN IF YOU DON'T SEE A JOB IN YOUR CHOSEN FIELD OF EXPERTISE. A WELL ESTABLISHED HEALTHCARE COMPANY IN LAGOS REQUIRES FOR EMPLOYMENT EXPERIENCE AND COMPETENT CANDIDATES TO FILL THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS. • COMPLIANCE MANAGER: o BACHELORS DEGREE IN ANY SCIENCE FIELD o MUST HAVE EYES FOR DETAILS o MUST HAVE GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF CGMP o MUST UNDERSTAND PROCESS FLOWS, HVAC SYSTEM IN A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY. o 3 YEARS OF POST QUALIFICATION EXPERIENCE o NOT MORE THAN 35YRS • PRODUCTION PHARMACIST: o BACHELOR OF PHARMACY FROM A GOOD UNIVERSITY o CANDIDATE MUST BE COMPUTER LITERATE AND HAVE A PASSION FOR INDUSTRIAL PRACTICE. o WORKING EXPERIENCE IN A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY WILL BE AN ADDED ADVANTAGE o NOT MORE THAN 35YRS OF AGE. • MECHANICAL ENGINEER: o HND/BSC ENGINEERING o AT LEAST 4YRS WORKING EXPERIENCE IN A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY o MUST BE COMPUTER LITERATE o NOT MORE THAN 35YRS OLD • SHIFT MANAGER: o BACHELOR OF PHARMACY FROM A GOOD UNIVERSITY o CANDIDATE MUST BE COMPUTER LITERATE AND HAVE A PASSION FOR INDUSTRIAL PRACTICE. o WORKING EXPERIENCE IN A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY WILL BE AN ADDED ADVANTAGE o NOT MORE THAN 35 YEARS • ACCOUNTANT o HND, BSC/ICAN EQUIVALENT PART 1 o CANDIDATE MUST BE A CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT o CANDIDATE MUST BE COMPUTER LITERATE o COMPUTER ACCOUNTING PACKAGE IS COMPULSORY o 3 YEARS WORKING EXPERIENCE o NOT MORE THAN 35 YEARS • ACCOUNT SUPERVISOR: o HND, BSC/ICAN EQUIVALENT PART 1 o CANDIDATE MUST BE A COMPUTER LITERATE o COMPUTER ACCOUNTING PACKAGE IS COMPULSORY. o 3 YEARS WORKING EXPERIENCE o NOT MORE THAN 25-30YRS. • IN PROCESS CHECKERS: o HND/OND IN SCIENCE LABORATORY TECHNOLOGY OR ITS EQUIVALENT o MINIMUM OF 2YRS EXPERIENCE IN A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY o NOT MORE THAN 22-28 YEARS OF AGE • ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN: o OND/ C&G QUALIFICATION o CANDIDATE MUST BE COMPUTER LITERATE o HANDS ON EXPOSURE IN MAINTENANCE OF INDUSTRIAL MACHINES AND EQUIPMENT o 5 YRS WORKING EXPERIENCE IN A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY o NOT MORE THAN 30 YEARS OF AGE. http://www.emzorpharma.com/career.php |
Nairaland / General / Emzor Pharma Recruiting : Hurry! by vindale: 6:43pm On Aug 24, 2009 |
EMZOR PHARMA OFFERS A HARMONIOUS WORKING ENVIRONMENT WITH A CLEAR CAREER PATH. OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM PURSUES THE EMZOR PHARMA MISSION & VALUES ON A DAILY BASIS AND WELCOMES YOUR INQUIRIES. WE ARE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER AND OFFER MANY BENEFITS TO EMPLOYEES INCLUDING: • PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT • MULTI-SKILLING • CHALLENGING WORK ENVIRONMENT RECRUITMENT IS BASED ON MERIT COMPETENCE AND IS HIGHLY COMPETITIVE. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING THE EMZOR PHARMA TEAM, CHECK OUT CURRENT JOB OPPORTUNITIES AND APPLY TODAY! CAREER OPPORTUNITIES FOLLOWING ARE SOME CURRENT JOB OPENINGS AND OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN EMZOR PHARMA. WE ALWAYS WELCOME QUALIFIED CANDIDATES SO PLEASE CONTACT US EVEN IF YOU DON'T SEE A JOB IN YOUR CHOSEN FIELD OF EXPERTISE. A WELL ESTABLISHED HEALTHCARE COMPANY IN LAGOS REQUIRES FOR EMPLOYMENT EXPERIENCE AND COMPETENT CANDIDATES TO FILL THE FOLLOWING POSITIONS. • COMPLIANCE MANAGER: o BACHELORS DEGREE IN ANY SCIENCE FIELD o MUST HAVE EYES FOR DETAILS o MUST HAVE GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF CGMP o MUST UNDERSTAND PROCESS FLOWS, HVAC SYSTEM IN A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY. o 3 YEARS OF POST QUALIFICATION EXPERIENCE o NOT MORE THAN 35YRS • PRODUCTION PHARMACIST: o BACHELOR OF PHARMACY FROM A GOOD UNIVERSITY o CANDIDATE MUST BE COMPUTER LITERATE AND HAVE A PASSION FOR INDUSTRIAL PRACTICE. o WORKING EXPERIENCE IN A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY WILL BE AN ADDED ADVANTAGE o NOT MORE THAN 35YRS OF AGE. • MECHANICAL ENGINEER: o HND/BSC ENGINEERING o AT LEAST 4YRS WORKING EXPERIENCE IN A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY o MUST BE COMPUTER LITERATE o NOT MORE THAN 35YRS OLD • SHIFT MANAGER: o BACHELOR OF PHARMACY FROM A GOOD UNIVERSITY o CANDIDATE MUST BE COMPUTER LITERATE AND HAVE A PASSION FOR INDUSTRIAL PRACTICE. o WORKING EXPERIENCE IN A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY WILL BE AN ADDED ADVANTAGE o NOT MORE THAN 35 YEARS • ACCOUNTANT o HND, BSC/ICAN EQUIVALENT PART 1 o CANDIDATE MUST BE A CHARTERED ACCOUNTANT o CANDIDATE MUST BE COMPUTER LITERATE o COMPUTER ACCOUNTING PACKAGE IS COMPULSORY o 3 YEARS WORKING EXPERIENCE o NOT MORE THAN 35 YEARS • ACCOUNT SUPERVISOR: o HND, BSC/ICAN EQUIVALENT PART 1 o CANDIDATE MUST BE A COMPUTER LITERATE o COMPUTER ACCOUNTING PACKAGE IS COMPULSORY. o 3 YEARS WORKING EXPERIENCE o NOT MORE THAN 25-30YRS. • IN PROCESS CHECKERS: o HND/OND IN SCIENCE LABORATORY TECHNOLOGY OR ITS EQUIVALENT o MINIMUM OF 2YRS EXPERIENCE IN A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY o NOT MORE THAN 22-28 YEARS OF AGE • ENGINEERING TECHNICIAN: o OND/ C&G QUALIFICATION o CANDIDATE MUST BE COMPUTER LITERATE o HANDS ON EXPOSURE IN MAINTENANCE OF INDUSTRIAL MACHINES AND EQUIPMENT o 5 YRS WORKING EXPERIENCE IN A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY o NOT MORE THAN 30 YEARS OF AGE. http://www.emzorpharma.com/career.php |
Jobs/Vacancies / Corporate Communications Officer by vindale: 6:26pm On Aug 24, 2009 |
An NGO in Ikoyi Lagos is looking for a Corporate Communications Officer. Who will handle: - corporate publications, press releases, and advertisements, author business articles for dailies on behalf of the organisation, - develop and establish beneficial relationships with newspaper/publishing houses, agencies - Coordinate the production of its bi-annual newsletter and yearly Impact Report - Develop and implement a yearly communications strategy/ plan for the organisation - Coordinate the planning, organizing and execution of corporate and social events Educational Qualification - A BSC degree in Mass Communication,Public Relations or Journalism with at least 4years work experience as a corporate communication officer - Excellent writing and communication skills is required - Branding, Advertising experience is an added advantage MUST BE RESIDENT IN LAGOS Suitable Candidates should please forward their CV with above subject matter to joan@gbfng.org not later than 1 week of publication PAY IS VERY ATTRACTIVE |
Jobs/Vacancies / Jobs For A Trade Marketing/sales Administration Manager. by vindale: 4:36pm On Aug 24, 2009 |
We are a multinational Company looking for a thoroughbred salesman with the below space Position: Trade Marketing/Sales Administration Manager Requirements A good bachelor’s degree, post-graduate degree will give an edge. Minimum of 6 years Field/ office Sales Management experience in an FMCG environment, preferably at the level of RMs, DMs, TMM or Sales Office Manager. Advance computing skills particularly Power Point, Excel and Words. You will be responsible for the collation, processing and presentation of sales information for company use. You will also use regional trends, reports and other insights to develop Trade Marketing Initiatives while driving demand plans, sales budgeting, field controls and activity tracking pan Nigeria among other technical deliverables. Do you have the Liver? If Yes, then; Post a handwritten application with your detailed CV on or before 3rd September, 2009 to; TMM Jobs, P.M.B 21279, Ikeja Lagos Alternatively, email your CV (PDF attachment only) to: africajobsgallery@yahoo.com |
Jokes Etc / Re: Schools In India by vindale: 2:21pm On Aug 24, 2009 |
Quite interesting, My question is " Is that The School "? or is that the school whichever |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Job Needed by vindale: 1:24pm On Aug 24, 2009 |
Ok. |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Jobs At Promasidor Nigeria by vindale: 1:13pm On Aug 24, 2009 |
link=topic=312210.msg4386670#msg4386670 date=1250751672: it should be OETMECH0309 Gud luck sorry about tht! |
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: Jobs At Promasidor Nigeria by vindale: 1:11pm On Aug 24, 2009 |
naijajive: it should be OEM, Gud luck |
Jobs/Vacancies / Deputy Manager / Assistant Manager Needed Urgently by vindale: 1:02am On Aug 24, 2009 |
Deputy Manager Underwriting / Claims Administration Responsibilities: · Effective and efficient Client Servicing: Underwriting / Claims Administration/Credit Control Specialisation in Oil & Gas · Audit of policy documents/endorsements to ensure that the wordings of terms and conditions are adequate and are prepared according to instructions; also prescribe solutions to deficiencies identified. · Ability to Assess risk portfolio and design seamless risk management package for the client. · Liaise with account department on issues of remittance and account balances. Requirement · Minimum of 8 years experience in insurance practice · University Degree any of the following: Social Sciences, Art, Law, Engineering and an Associate membership of CII Nigeria or CII London · Proficiency in Microsoft applications Deputy Manager Underwriting (Specialization in Oil & Gas) Responsibilities/Duties * Understanding of the business of Oil & Gas players in the local market * Knowledge of covers required by local players in this market and underwriting required. * Audit of policy documents/endorsements to ensure that the wordings of terms and conditions are adequate and are prepared according to instructions * Ability to Assess risk portfolio and design seamless risk management package for the client. Requirement: · Minimum of 8 years experience in insurance practice · University Degree any of the following: Social Sciences, Art, Law, Engineering and an Associate membership of CII Nigeria or CII London · Proficiency in Microsoft applications Assistant Manager : Underwriting/Client Services Responsibilities: * Conduct of Surveys and Preparation of Survey Reports. * Audit of policy documents/endorsements to ensure that the wordings of terms and conditions are adequate and are prepared according to instructions * Ability to Assess risk portfolio and design seamless risk management package for the client. * Design and placement of insurance policies for clients with approved insurers Requirement: · Minimum of 6 years experience in insurance practice · University Degree any of the following: Social Sciences, Art, Law, Engineering and an Associate membership of CII Nigeria or CII London · Minimum 2nd class Email CV to: rightmgtconsulting@yahoo.co.uk |
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