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makavele:
WHY SO SAVAGE ?

i take am resemble U

See the thing calling someone a boy...
Old man you are isn't it?? You sure have a place among my younger siblings if I check. #thrash

Alaye, just replace my battery based on agreement abeg!
I know you'll be telling yourself right now that when he's done shouting, I'll continue to sell my products.
But I won't want to tell you the repercussion... so let's do the deal. 130k waiting for you.

earthrealm:
wise words, in addition to the others. Juo made some errors in the transaction.
sending a panle he tot was beta suited to the client, and not spelling out the waranty terms in black and white b4 the deal was consumated as per the battery....

thats the problem small business face. they dont hv laid down procedures and checklists.
when i bought an epsolar cc from kiekie, he siad the item has waranty, the deal when consumated...then in the course of our discussion afterwards i opened up that i dont hv a lighening prtotector....that was when he said the waranty is hinged on my hving a lightening protector...
so it wud hv been a mess if per chance the CC went bad 2 or 3 days after our discussion....he would insist on not honoring the waranty, when he iddnt state it prior to the purchase.

to all sellers, i know you would grow big some day, pls ensure you write stuff down, have a checklist you go tru prior to any sale etc. in the bible its recorded that even God writes things down/has books.

another thing, i dont understand why someone would buy a toks flooded battery for 70k, when a brand new one is 100k/90k.
waranty on a brand new flooded battery is even worrisome..as so many things could go wrong due to user ignorance/error...that establishing a genuie waranty claim would be iffy........from topping up with tapwater/fake distilled water, undercharging/wrong charging algorithm, running down frequently..leaving for wks in an uncharged state etc....
truth be told..if am a small time flooded battery vendor like kiekie n co..i would find it immensely difficult and draining sorting out waranty issues on same battery

lol sorry sir, it's not flooded. it's SLA

Oshomo12:
Solar 101
1. Never give warranty on used batteries( as in never!) even if they have solar panels.
2. Never use ur thinking for a buyer( he wants head, don't think of arms,body and legs) give him head. He knows the reason for requesting for that specifically.
3. Don't sell used items and believe in ur mind u are smart, client might be smarter than u re( u don't know their background).
4. Never let a transaction degenerate to this level(client coming to complain online). You may never know the amount of people viewing this world wide( since we re in a www. age).
Some or most would have formed their opinion(s) about u. You would not be there to defend urslf.

Whenever I install solar for people and they insist on used batteries, I always tell them to buy it by themselves! I will never check the batteries health. Once it gives me 12v and above. I just install and take my leave. I also tell them not to call me if and when they are not getting good results from the batteries.
I have a telecom Eng as a friend, he as begged me many times to push their batteries to my clients, I told him No. It's not u they will drag, na me now.
So let do the needful on this case.

Well, help tell him... If issues never arise, you wouldn't know the true color of people. I stopped dealing with frankie and he never for once disrespected me for that, he even apologised and defended his actions here on NL. I chose this idiot next and you can read him calling me a "boy" ... this untrained kid.

JUO:
It is obvious he has another thing in mind (just to rubbish my image). For the battery warranty, initially I promised to replace it for him at discounted price but since he didn't keep to the agreement of adding solar no more replacement. People do business of millions in this forum without making noise and with huge profit sef. Henceforth there may be no one day warranty on all my items except for..... I have sold new 40a epever to someone he swapped it and I didn't fall the sky. Out of 5 transactions and one went bad. Sorry to those who I have offended but this boy voided the warranty on the battery. Thanks

You see, despite all everyone has said, you still stand on your point as being holy and right, stop being foolish!!!
You are really an annoying kid. Don't bring up thrash here idiot...
If you want peace, I didn't void any warranty, people here can judge from the whatsapp convos.
I stated it categorically that you never mentioned solar before purchase, it was after purchase.
130k is down intact and I need 2 brand new Mercury Batteries as agreed.

DUNKA:
This is too bad if you order for an item and get delivered another item you should return it at sellers cost and a refund if the item is not available. You should not have accepted the 305watts panel. Lesson learnt. All dealers should have the integrity to send items discussed and agreed to with buyers

Anyway has JUO agreed for the battery replacement as you guys had discussed?

NO

makavele:
And for those reading, combing different wattage panels doesn't just work like that.;
else the bigger panel would be dragged down and start to behave like the small panel . . so a waste of money.
Their specs need to be matched as closely as possible (allowing for about 10% up or down variance)
When connecting in series, the Imp (and/or Isc) should be matched as close as possible
When in parallel, the Vmp( and/or Voc) should be matched as closely as possible.

While it is not best practice, at least it would suffice !!!

Exactly my reason for being upset. it will just occupy unnecessary space and affect my next upgrade in case I choose to.
I already have 180w and I decided 200w will be manageable. then I have this Billboard with a conviction that it will do magic.

makavele:
After reading the whatsapp chat, I'm like

Brick & Mortar shops, activated !!!

Leave him, from his own post, he's a SAINT and a VERY KIND MAN.

DMerciful:
What do you want to achieve by posting the whatsapp chats? He offered a refund and you said you did not want him to run at a loss out of consideration, then why bring it here? If you have let go of the panel transaction out of your own volition, then let go so we know it's only the battery issue that's still open. For the battery, whats your position? Replacement or refund?

@Dmerciful

I told you, I'm not here for the panel issue, I'm here for the battery issue and we have agreed that I will pay 130,000 and he will deliver 2 brand new batteries and that he has failed to give consent to when I'm ready. That's why I'm here. He referred back to the panel issue like he did me some favor and I need to let this shit out.

|| end of discussion on whatsapp ||

so now my faults I want to know. 'cos this kid be talking like a dad talking to his boy.
I wonder what his age is.... thrash!

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JUO:
@Kiekie1 can confirm that my refund doesn't take unto 24hrs
I sold two batteries to this boy about 4-5 months ago, after a while this boy complained that one of the batteries wasn't performing and i promised to replace it for him but he needs to pay part of the money since he is requesting for a new one and never kept the warranty agreement of adding solar to the setup and we concluded he should contact me whenever he has raised the money. even though he voided the agreement i still promised to replace it. that is for the battery case

Now the real issue (blackmail)
I sold the first cc to him, after a while he contacted me that someone took the cc that I should help him again and I said okay. he started paying the money bits by bits. he is using ups as inverter and i believe you all know what that means (nothing to charge the battery) i couldn't wait for him to complete the payment before sending him the cc although he later finished the payment and he was happy. few days later he contacted me again about panel and specifically requested for 200w mono coz he was using 180w mono, I said okay but kept complaining that phcn has gone for over 4 days. since he has started paying I sent him the panel hoping he will not runaway with my money. he wanted 200w but i felt sending him something higher at almost the same price will be better for him since is his personal use and with that the battery will charge faster. instead of 200w mono i sent him 305 poly original panel (almost new) and i told him there was a little a change meanwhile i never told him of any increment, I felt 305 poly will perform better than 200w mono ( but bad). he insisted on knowing the change i asked him to wait until he receives panel. my aim of not telling him about the increase in watts was to surprise him but foolish me. panel got to the destination 5 days (he finally paid up)without his knowledge only for me ask he said he has not received but later went to pick it up and that was when the issues started. the insult was too much for me so i requested for his account number for refund which i never received instead he requested for 10k refund and he will keep the panel or i come to his house and pickup the panel. all i got was insult instead of account number for refund. had to tell him that the cost of the 305w poly to him is 47k that if he is keeping the panel he needs to balance 5k and keep panel or send account for refund or still keep the panel or return it. account number never came insult continued i have no option than to ignor him the next thing i saw was battery transaction. the insult i received from him i have not receive it in the past 10 years

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Hey kid because it's very stupid of you to have called me a "boy" I have never disrespected you, NO BLACKMAIL HERE

1. You didn't tell me about the solar before purchase, it was after delivery we talked and you mention that.\\
2. it's not up to 4-5 months, i stated date of purchase in there "1 Sept, 2017" and this is January, I didn't tell you one of the batteries, I wrote the batteries.
3. Now you want your reputation back because some people are against you, you are only beating around the bush, you helped me Did I pay fully eventually or I didn't? I have had cases to buy products from people, as long as I haven't taken the products away from your store, i can pay in "lesser-than-bits" indeed, it's my money and when I finish paying, you deliver... that's an agreement, so no gain saying.
4. Why on earth would you feel something is better for me, you be my papa why would you decide what I will do with my money kid?
5. You sent the panel, I needed POWER than anything else at that point, I can't wait for another 5-7 days for another panel, so I just had to install it that way which I told you. I installed it the next day I picked it up and let you know how horrible the transaction was. I really don't know if you think I have all the time in this world to keep waiting for you to amend your faults.
6. Out of frustration, I demanded a refund but then I felt it's not worth it. I'm not a greedy fellow, there's nothing I want to do with the 10k if I have it back. I'm not wishing you run at loss but then you did something extremely wrong.

I'm posting the whatsapp chats in my next post.

mank1234:
Let's have the whole story. A potential buyer or even JUO may learn from your story.

It obvious you guys are unable to reach a common ground. May be we can mediate after getting the full gist.

Warranty issue in Nigeria is a major problem because there's a disconnect in the supply chain (manufacturer-importer-distributor-retailer-consumer). Consequently, the retailer or consumer is left to bear the brunt.

I already brief the full story above. I got mad at him for sending me a different product compared to what I paid for and for that reason, he's mad and doesn't want to take responsibility for the batteries as earlier agreed. I can screenshot whatsapp conversations when matters get to that extent. so no one lies...

viperVIP:
well, if you want the whole story, I can tell it on here but I bet it, it will be worse than what you have known. Call Abu if you are interested in the real story, I informed him about everything before coming to call him out on here. I intentionally don't want to mention the last transaction that happened but I bet it, he won't tell you the true story because you are not involved all the way and I wasn't conferenced to tell you whatever he told you wasn't totally true. Let him speak out on here and let people judge.

or think about it

You called a seller to make purchase for 200w Brand New Sunshine Mono Panel and you received 305w Used Poly Panel.
How can the seller now convince you that he's trying to give you the best when he's not the user and you're the one paying your money.
JUO really pissed me off... This isn't our first transaction, so I wouldn't expect him to do that, that's absolutely wrong.
So if I react badly, does that mean I have lost on my earlier warranty deal

I am no fool afterall. Now the ball is in his court, he's acting like a kingkong... saying he doesn't want to talk, who should now talk? the person that I didn't buy from wth

bigrovar:
I can only speak for myself not anyone. I don't get what is meant by known person. Regarding the Juo matter, I reached out to him back stage and to hear his side of the story. From all I got from all he told me is that according to him, the story is longer than what was stated here. There have less than cordial transaction history which raised lots of bad blood. He felt insulted choose not to respond. I have had dealings with Juo before where I got some used battery. 6 in all. 2 where not up to my requirement and Juo insist I return them. In fact he sent me the replacement (at his own cost) before I sent him the faulty batteries. The story here is uncharacteristic of my dealings with him. I do hope that when the blood cools he would come on here to say his own part of the story and most importantly so that both party can come to an acceptable agreement.

It seems you can't open your mouth without using colourful language. Does it make you feel taller or that is just how you were brought up. Issues comes up all the time. Considering the amount of transactions that takes place on this forum back stage without issues its no surprise that once in a while problems comes up its part of life. What is important is how this things are resolved and handled. I am doing my bit to talk to the party I know back stage so that this matter can be put to rest. I am sure many on here are also doing same.

well, if you want the whole story, I can tell it on here but I bet it, it will be worse than what you have known. Call Abu if you are interested in the real story, I informed him about everything before coming to call him out on here. I intentionally don't want to mention the last transaction that happened but I bet it, he won't tell you the true story because you are not involved all the way and I wasn't conferenced to tell you whatever he told you wasn't totally true. Let him speak out on here and let people judge.

efuro:
Painful as it is, am sure James is working out something for you. Maybe he has his funds tied up in importation or hanging outside, give him time. He is not that kind of a beast to leave you dry! At least the little I know of him.

By the way, take oga dmerciful point seriously. Your are an old facing here, check the inverter setting for battery type. Your ruined ba3 discription matches gel. And gel don't take nonsense esle your client may ruined another set of new batteries wether from JUO or not.

Just my piece.

Thank you for your input bro. I will be picking up the inverter tomorrow evening to confirm the charging. The inverter doesn't have battery type selection, it's bluegate 2kva. About JUO, communication is very vital when dealing with people, if only he kept communicating with me, why won't I understand and agree with him patiently But simply because he did something wrong to me recently, I really can't tell exactly if the silence was because he couldn't afford the discount or based on another fact... afterall he's reading this.

I never even believe it will get to the extent of me coming to NL to post, it's sad.

viperVIP:
Good day everyone.

Please I need your intervention concerning a purchase from JUO. I have transacted with him few times successfully until recently that he stopped picking my calls while we still have a transaction not concluded yet to my detriment.

I bought 2 units (12v 190ah) of used batteries from him barely 4 months @ 80k each for a client on 1 Sept, 2017, I planned buying new but he was able to convince me that these batteries are better than the new ones I wanted to buy, so I opt in for his option and he promise me a guarantee of 6 months if client discharge 50% only. I paid him and he supplied the batteries to me, few days after installation we were chatting and he asked if he has a solar system installed and I said NO... he said that's bad o, he barely gives people warranty with no solar and I told him this client lives in an estate with about 20-24hours power supply daily, he's only trying to make sure he covers up his 24hours power supply always, that's why he's getting it and there won't be a problem concerning charging of the battery but I will persuade him to do solar, that's all.

I can't force money out of the client's pocket likewise you didn't base your warranty on a condition before you sold it to me, it was after you sold it you were talking that condition... and that's not a goal to me, even batteries perform well without a solar system, so not a solid criteria.

About 2 weeks ago, the client called me that some liquid came out of the battery terminals the previous night and he's been observing for about 4 days that battery barely last 30minutes from the previous 9 hours it's used to. I went there 2 Sundays ago to inspect the batteries and the terminals are dried, i didn't see any vivid traces of water and I met battery fully charged, so i disconnected the grid supply to see how long the battery will last and behold, less than 20 minutes it started alarming and 3 minutes after, inverter went off.

I informed JUO and he said he can't be responsible for total refund (even tho that's not conditionally stated in his warranty, what he told me then was he will replace if battery is default) and now he said he can only give a discount on another purchase.

Client said he's never going to buy used again... Poor experience for me as well.

His discount was client is to pay #130,000 for 2 brand new Mercury 12v batteries. Client insisted on #100k because he can't lose such money within that short period. And I had to come in just to protect my integrity, I agreed to pay #30k from my wallet.

Client called me yesterday that he's ready for the purchase. And I informed JUO and since then he has refused to answer my calls, nor reply my text and whatsapp.

So I am begging everyone to implore him to fix this transaction even though I will never have to deal with him ever again. And I am not "mr. dangote" to bear a burden of #100k.

We transact with each other on here most times based on trust, we never meet each other and I do believe everyone has a name to protect, so kindly implore him to do the right thing as agreed... This JUO is a man I have input my words for on this forum for a good services & delivery rendered, so I never expect him to show this ugly side of his to me.

Kindly help everyone pls!

Teraman

if JUO thinks time will heal this, I bet not because I am very sure he's seeing all this.

DMerciful:
In as much as there was guarantee which should be honoured, kindly check if the inverter is charging correctly
cos it did last initially 9hours. I am sure Juo will resolve this in a way that is fair and ensure the integrity of this forum is maintained.

Ok thank you.
I will bring the inverter to my home system to check the charging. Why JUO is silent on this matter is what I still don't understand.

kiekie1:
Good morning, am just viewing this message . Mr Niyi aka Teraman my man ... Take it easy, although I see few sellers reluctantly giving "6 months warranty" on a used battery they do not even know the history of usage etc .. Its unrealistic to me as it's a game of luck. As one of my good client"Dunka" said above , "I believe Juo is already working on the stated issue above" ! Cheer's

LOL

DUNKA:
just noted this as I do not know of what discount is being offered by JUO for Brand new mercury 12v battery for 130k

See Frankie' s prices for brand new prices Batteries below

USA trojan battery 12v 200a (J200RE) -N130,000.

If you are for AGM SMF batteries :
-kung Long battery 12v 200a N115,000
-Mercury 12v 200a N98,000

Note: USA trojan sealed agm 6v L16 batteries is now in stock ....... N145,000

Mind you the prices are negotiable (yes Frankie they are ) so unless I am missing something......

LOL Mercury 12v 200ah in my part of the world cost #100,000. So 2 = 200,000 and he will be taking responsibility for #70,000 while I remit #130,000 to him.

I can assure you well enough that he is intentionally keeping quiet on the matter and that will be a slap on the face of this forum if he gets away with this.

Good day everyone.

Please I need your intervention concerning a purchase from JUO. I have transacted with him few times successfully until recently that he stopped picking my calls while we still have a transaction not concluded yet to my detriment.

I bought 2 units (12v 190ah) of used batteries from him barely 4 months @ 80k each for a client on 1 Sept, 2017, I planned buying new but he was able to convince me that these batteries are better than the new ones I wanted to buy, so I opt in for his option and he promise me a guarantee of 6 months if client discharge 50% only. I paid him and he supplied the batteries to me, few days after installation we were chatting and he asked if he has a solar system installed and I said NO... he said that's bad o, he barely gives people warranty with no solar and I told him this client lives in an estate with about 20-24hours power supply daily, he's only trying to make sure he covers up his 24hours power supply always, that's why he's getting it and there won't be a problem concerning charging of the battery but I will persuade him to do solar, that's all.

I can't force money out of the client's pocket likewise you didn't base your warranty on a condition before you sold it to me, it was after you sold it you were talking that condition... and that's not a goal to me, even batteries perform well without a solar system, so not a solid criteria.

About 2 weeks ago, the client called me that some liquid came out of the battery terminals the previous night and he's been observing for about 4 days that battery barely last 30minutes from the previous 9 hours it's used to. I went there 2 Sundays ago to inspect the batteries and the terminals are dried, i didn't see any vivid traces of water and I met battery fully charged, so i disconnected the grid supply to see how long the battery will last and behold, less than 20 minutes it started alarming and 3 minutes after, inverter went off.

I informed JUO and he said he can't be responsible for total refund (even tho that's not conditionally stated in his warranty, what he told me then was he will replace if battery is default) and now he said he can only give a discount on another purchase.

Client said he's never going to buy used again... Poor experience for me as well.

His discount was client is to pay #130,000 for 2 brand new Mercury 12v batteries. Client insisted on #100k because he can't lose such money within that short period. And I had to come in just to protect my integrity, I agreed to pay #30k from my wallet.

Client called me yesterday that he's ready for the purchase. And I informed JUO and since then he has refused to answer my calls, nor reply my text and whatsapp.

So I am begging everyone to implore him to fix this transaction even though I will never have to deal with him ever again. And I am not "mr. dangote" to bear a burden of #100k.

We transact with each other on here most times based on trust, we never meet each other and I do believe everyone has a name to protect, so kindly implore him to do the right thing as agreed... This JUO is a man I have input my words for on this forum for a good services & delivery rendered, so I never expect him to show this ugly side of his to me.

Kindly help everyone pls!

Teraman

Reprobate:
wish you are a known face or name...who will vouch for you?..
what is your location

LOL, ask abunafiu... I've been here for a long time but barely post a thing.
- Teraman

who has a cheap used mppt charge controller for sale?
prolly within range of 20k...

Please!!!

FOR SALE!

Prag Inverter (4kva 48v

Reason for sale: Client wants to downgrade to 24v system.
The inverter is functioning 100% excellent, it's barely a year in use and has never been faulty.
Working optimumly everyday.

Call O8I3768924O if you are interested.
Good deal

sensisosu:
I have had the opportunity of doing business with kiekie and I can authoritatively say that he doesn't value his customers, very rude and money is all that matters to me..

You will even send him message on his personal number he will be forming too busy..

I am not here to spoil business for u oo but the way you conduct business doesn't leave a good impression on anyone..

****smiling**** cos I know Whatsup. I feel you bro.

Hello everyone. I used to be a daily reader of this forum years past and I indeed appreciate every bit of it. But I haven't been on here in a long time until tonight after reading several pages I have missed, I'm glad I browsed here tonight. Just one thing that saddens my heart is the fact that we have a seller on here that praises everyone on the forum and make them look like good friends and colleagues but on the contrary, poison customers minds towards them when contacted for prices or purchase and making the customers feel like he is the only real renewable energy equipment seller in Nigeria. I personally have had few bad experiences with him in the past and I have sworn never to deal with him again, he can be so quick with delivery but has a shady side you wouldn't like. Anyways, thanks to the realest people in the house... You all know yourself. and to the bad egg "you suck"... I remember your favorite statement, so so so people are not sellers, they are just there.. they are just whatever. na only you be seller abi?

Just a piece of advice, compare prices from different dealers/sellers before concluding on who to deal with. For me, Richmon74 and JUO has been awesome so far, as much as price is concerned.

Kindly add me to the whatsapp group. I currently own a Audi a4 2004 v6 engine. 08137689240.