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rvp20182:
Sammy the render man,
1) How many times have you screamed edited when you saw Kenya pics? Count them - and remember each time you did that - Kenya had exceeded your slumpolis by huge margins.

2) How many times have you referred to parts of Nairobi as being stolen pictures. One time you called Nyari - canada

3) How many times have your pulled the race card - when you saw parts of Nairobi

Quote samorobo on this. Btw this gives me third world vibes when compared to this

Randlord:
CPT - RSA, photos say a thousand words

Rvp do u see the cranes and quality of building being built ; can u compare it will thus

Patrioticbreed9:
stop spilling trash . who told you abuja dosnt have decent middle class!. let me brake it down for you.Abuja is made up of districts.and each district is like a mini city with neighborehoods,schools,hospitals,hotels,business districts etc.
High districts are maitama & asokoro
Upper Middle class district are jabi & life.
Middle class are lugbe & gwarinpa.
Now for business and hotel and little housing we have. Wuse district,garki district,area one etc. All this district am mentioning are equavilent to cities.Abuja also have a light rail! Now regarding the industry aspect! We idu-industrial district. Each district in abuja have hundreds of neighborhood,planned,alocated,low-cost,eastate etc.. With five malls a zoo,theme park and screne hills darn! It's a pitty you are judging abuja based on google..

No he is judging Abuja based on emotion. Yesterday and today has been a bad day for kenyans

Randlord:
More from Tshwane

I see cranes everywhere.rvp will not like this

rvp20182:
Abuja has to try to take some action off Lagos - and have some people moving there instead of Lagos - and it can only do that by becoming a real city - NOT A LEGO CITY for civil servants and maybe embassies. When it comes to the service sector...what exactly would that be? Maybe Finance and such? Coz I don't see it having any tourist natural resources like ocean or lake that would draw folks in such numbers? A rock and abandoned quarry are all it got now.

Right now it's a glorified civil servant city - without any middle class! It's Maitima and Mpape kind of contrast without middle class in between.

Middle class lives here idiot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyRnP-1YjrY

rvp20182:
Yes accra is like most Nigerian cities except for Abuja - more like Nairobi metro but more populated - it a huge mess-free for all integrated hodgepodge do whatever you want. Abuja is planned from the ground up but like most such cities of such scale - it has no middle class - no soul - and is a monumental failure. It's okay to plan a small area like Eko Altantic or Tatu city - but imagine trying to come up with city the size of Nairobi from ground zero.

Abuja a city of 4m- FCT about 10m-
Not that I care tho if Abuja is empty or not- we are talking about infrastructure not population.

Lol Abuja doesn’t have middle class. Lot let me not laugh abeg- this is yet again another pain coding to manufacture figures from ur arse.

rvp20182:
Of course. South Africa's infrastructure (albeit falling apart like the US of A infra) is one world top 10 or 20 best. China has incredible infrastructure - that is now miles ahead of the 2nd in the world. Egypt cement consumption alone is staggering - and it's infrastructure spending huge.

I am flattered you want to compare Kenya with the best in infrastructure

I am always gobsmacked anytime u try such. It’s makes Kenya a inferior laughable joke not worthy of attention on the grand scheme of things.

rvp20182:
Head to youtube - and you can clearly see that
1) Abuja - the well-planned part is good - decent CBD albeit with more empty houses than occupied - with few organized estates for civil servants - but the majority live in slums like Mpape- and the city is almost empty. There is almost no middle class. No industrial area. Just big mosque and the rocks.
2) Accra - has a tiny central business district - a few middle class planned estates - and the rest I would call mostly lower lower middle class - just few inches from Kibra.

So all in all - Accra beats Abuja. Abuja is a dead lego city. Accra is a sprawling disorganized slumpolis.

Lol speak what u know not what u don’t know- u know not a damn shiit about Abuja- I doubt u can even list five locations in Abuja and tell how they are linked to one another like I easily break Nairobi down like google map.
Abuja has no single slum within the city limit- this is just a fact than no amount of arguments can change- its a planned city for a reason and things like this was taken into consideration. Mpape is a baby joke both in size and aesthetics compared to any slum in Kenya including ur slum district like east Ka do and the likes.

This is what average neighborhood in Abuja looks like. Not the cbd or place for rich folks.- just a place an average family man or recently employed graduate can afford- u must really think Abuja is a joking mess like Nairobi.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyRnP-1YjrY

rvp20182:
Kenya is not at the level of China, Egypt and South Africa of course.

Ur infrastructure sucks and looks wickedly inferior when places side by side with the worst of those mentioned. That is the bottomline and also a pure fact u are so afraid to accept.

Wuoche:
Please let's not forget that Mpaape slum in Abuja has 1million people and Accra has 265 slums in it and more are coming up

Kibera is the largest slum in the continent and a strong representative for Africa in the global slum competition. Mpape barely makes any seriously news other than blogs and vlogs

rvp20182:
Nairobi is huge construction site; there is going to be a lot of dusty before the lawns are grown; and the road paved. Get used to it. If you go back to Ngong road - it's all good - better than any road in Nigeria.

Chinese cities,SA cities,Egyptian cities are a construction yet everywhere still look developed and clean. Their construction boom doesn’t affect their quality of ground infastruture. Ur shady nonsense one of two block basic design building is not a boom and my problem with those pics is that ur Infrastructure looks obvious inferior and low standard. In short ur city aesthetics sucks and scream India and third world vibe.

rvp20182:
Exactly a year a go - you said

samorobo: Hahaha again you've been busted...stop stealing pics from Ontario canada...A simple reverse google search will save you this disgrace..

When you saw this.

The day u learn that samorobo and vlain are two different entities that is the very same day u will be knowledgeable. U will have to be stupid to equate this forest and make to anything in SA or western countries.

I am opening u up to reality gradually.

rvp20182:
Shackman,

of course, it goes without saying that we are fixing the entire country. Mombasa alone has planned about 2B dollars project. LAMU-Turkana new corridor is ongoing with 22B dollars planned.We have invested 5B dollars on SGR - and another 1B on course to rehabilitate the old one.

When this thread started in 2016 - Kenya had about 3Million households connected to electricity - now that figure is well over 8M! About 15yrs in 2005 - only 0.4M kenyans were connected. We have plan to connect another 2m by 2022 - and we might even hit universal access - considering we have Africa leading solar connections.

We are building mega water dams and irrigation schemes. Bla de bla.

I can go on and on - but I suspect it would be like performing an orchestra to the sheep of sotholand.

There is a reason why in 2005 in South Africa - it's GDP was 260B and Kenya economy was 18B - and Now Kenya GDP is 100B and South Africa is 320B.

So shackman if in 15yrs we have reduced the gap from when South Africa was 15 times larger than kenya to just 3 times! - What make you think in the next 15yrs we cannot catch and even exceed South Africa.

Why would it be almost sacrilegious to Azanias to hear that Nairobi will definitely overtake Joburg soon when all data is screaming YES.

And pray what will STOP KENYA - maybe a civil war or some natural catastrophe - otherwise our non-mineral well-diversified economy has grown almost unperturbed by anything the last since 2003.

I thought u said pics speak more than a thousand words. Lol why are ur pics not also screaming yes

AfriqueDuZuid:
That's just the thing you don't get

You are fixing one city, SA is advancing 10 of its own

You are developing konza, SA got over 30 in development.

You started making walkways in your best city, we putting them in villages

Ask him for the results of their so called fixing then burst into laughter when u try putting it side by side with hillbrow rundown district. The joke is always of that idiot- he thinks gives us a long speech alongside video will blind our eyes from working. The hype goes down the drain the minute u click any of their videos.

Shma:
Why are you comparing a road that has just been completed with South Africa?

That is ngong road which was completed late last year, so what's your point?

All ur roads looks like that- lol u will have to wait for rain to fall before u brag about ur roads-such lowlife level of deception.smh!!!

rvp20182:
South Africans brought themselves to this Kenya viz Nigerian thread. Don't blame me . After it became obvious Nigeria stood no chance - South Africans and West Africans brought your country as the new opponent. Now I see you are all ganged up against fast-growing Kenya without a mineral - the largest such economy in SSA.

Kenya is nailing the basic down and is about to enter a phase of very high growth and progress. We have managed to reign on our population - and we are seeing less and less kids - with highest population cohort now the 10-14. As for export, fdi, etc - well our economy this year is projected to grow at 8 % (the most important metric) - Africa highest - our revenues will hit 21B plus - meanwhile your country will be lucky to get out of recession.

What Nairobi is is fixing big infrastructure (THE HARD part) - and the small stuff like - walkways - and pedestrian paths - bicycle lanes - and such attention to details - which are low-hanging fruit. Upper hill, Kilimani and Westland are transitioning from low residence to high rises organically...so the horizontal infrastructure is not yet there. They are not planned cities from the ground up like say Tatu city, Two Rivers, Konza, Eko Altantic dead city, or the many in South Africa...they are growing organically....so eventually when there is good enough densities..and the walkways are fixed...they will look as good. It takes few millions to do that...it's small thing. Nairobi is already on these small kind of stuff....anyway.

Walkways will cost 15m dollars to fix grey and red lanes all over Nairobi - very cheap - very low hanging stuff.
https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/general/nms-unveils-sh1-47-billion-plan-for-non-motorised-transport-corridors


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2GVF8-z5R0

Mumu noise. U keep making ur zoo a laughing stock. U are nailing trash infrastructure- I look at Nairobi and I burst into laughter when trying to compost with her counterpart. Non where in Kenya gives u a semblance of first world urbanity- absolutely nowhere

Randlord:
Why feel pity for SA? Feel pity for your own country and city. Kenya was more developed than S Korea at independence, so technically that's your competition . You are SA's older brother but are stunted in growth. [b]BTW it was you who dragged us in this topic with your constant mentioning that you're catching up to SA and generally trying to patronise SA. Why do you want us gone now? [/b]The photos are making you angry cos they show the Nairobi 'emperor has no clothes'?

Your economy is 'booming' and yet you continue to churn out sub-par developments and there is no improvement at ground level, no FDI, no increased exports, just a debt-fueled property boom.

I saw a vid posted here about Upper Hill at ground level and was shocked, open drains and street hawkers in make shift stalls. You think you're catching up with all that? . You're just not tidy and fastidious enough to get on SA's level in 10 years, your country just lacks that attention to detail and high standards.

Well said- I didn’t e en know which part to emboldened becos each sentence was a painful pure fact. Catching up my arse

rvp20182:
Why do you think I am bitter; I pity you and your declining country. 20 yrs ago when I first visited Joburg I was impressed - Nairobi then had a single CBD - Joburg had 3. Now I see an old decacying country and cities. Now I see Nairobi edging Joburg in 5-10yrs - all Nairobi need to fix are few minors things they are fixing.

If I want to be impressed I just visit Malaysia or Thailand or Indonesia or Vietnam or of course China - if you had not wasted a generation already - 2005 to now - you would be like this - NOT competing with Kenya - having been overtaken by Egypt now (ignore the paper giant of Nigeria with cooked data) - but with other proper middle class countries

Now, this is impressive - and makes you want to visit them Asian cities. Nairobi needs 30yrs (2050) to get here - but 10yrs max to South Africa level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPDznHIgVMA&t=181s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDTsIHL0JAQ

Lol is this how decaying a city can look like. Lol u are so bitter and hateful- it’s so obvious. Compare this decaying city of SA to the non-decaying city of Nairobi-remember this is a naked eye test and while u are at it don’t forget to tell us a single thing kuala lump ur has that none of SA cities have. Just list one we are waiting

rvp2018:
Compare yourself with say Malaysia or Thailand or Indonesia... countries you're supposed to be in same level.and you'll understand why you can only impress poor west Africans.Youre building more slums than such shopping centers.The economy is sick.

U are an idiot.I thought u said their construction sector is dead. Compared to Kenya,Kenya is a long walk in a park. This level of low standard trash is not a boom worthy enough to knock hillbrow. SA building is very high tech and 21st century with amazing designs and shapes.

Randlord:
Stagnating SA - No developments

Rvp I have never seen this level of works class roads and buildings anywhere in Kenya. They say anywhere in Kenya look half as good as this then hit. That is the very same day I will believe ur noise on overtaking or aiming.
Nairobi is a dusty joke I swear.

rvp2018:
What makes such nonsense facts..or you think banding together to console your sorry arse will degrade Nairobi... the world 6 most dynamic city, the 11st most ecological friendly city in the world and the most innovative city in Africa.Again slums occupy only 2 percent of Nairobi landmass, are not growing and are infact being reduced through demolition.Those are facts.Nairobi slums are well known.Nairobi is growing on steroids.. number of planned high-rise already overtook joburg.The road infrastructure is getting there with more than 1.5b dollars under construction.The Nairobi commuter rail is being extended.Nairobi adding 200 million litres of water this year.Nairobi extending it's sewage network to cover 75 of residents.Nairobi fixing walkway with more than 500km of pedestrian and cycling paths.Nairobi is putting up thousand units of affordable housing.

Pure emotional noise. Nairobi is 90% this is just a pure fact. We’ve thru this over and over again

AfriqueDuZuid:
This is Kenya best city

Lol

Shma2020:
you told me you'll meet me tomorrow so that we can engage on nigeria vs Nairobi, right?

Allow me to deal with this shackman if you have balls

Nope I said Pretoria vs kenya

Shma2020:
Who talked about Somali as reference country

Confusion syndrome detected!

U travel to Somalia,see their rubbish then flex ur muscles and think Nairobi is world class.obviously u made Somalia and the like reference countries.

Shma2020:
Only Capetown and jorburg are more developed than Nairobi.

Durban and the rest should compete with lagos

Lol Nairobi has a long way to go. keep living in that bubble. This are naked eye test.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xehl5-B8Rlg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lWFM68uBjQ

AfriqueDuZuid:
Even Pretoria

Can I show you comparison from Google maps?

Oh please do

AfriqueDuZuid:
Apartments build on block bricks, which are or low quality no modern city uses those.

But oh well this is Kenya Nairobi after all

Oil I laugh at the idiot whenever they post such low standard trash and call it’s construction boom waiting to know joburg of. Even the rundown decades old buildings in inner hillbrow looks better than this local brick laying rubbish they are building in this century. I have told them they are not yet ready to take if that third world tag- heck we haven’t even talked about the quality of their dusty road- this are naked eye tests.

Shma2020:
Capetown and jorburg are all developed than Nairobi.

What if Durban - not even including umhlanga

Shma2020:
That is good of you.

Travel the world now

Lol ur third world travel escapade is a joke to mine. Let’s leave it at that.

Shma2020:
We understand sarcasm

How is this sarcasm. Do u even know what that means.

Btw I meant what I said.

Shma2020:
When projections is something to go by, then I can confidently tell you that Kenya is moving at the right pace.

Comparison is not hate. if your friend thinks that projecting figures with SA is an insult, then let him make a fool at himself while other good South Africans are calm

Kenya is a joke no hating.
Btw rvp claim Nairobi is more developed than Cape Town and only joburg is slightly ahead. Do u also share the same sentiment.

Shma2020:
That is my house, do you still love it?

Yes