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Android22:
You know he fell out with Levy?

Levy sacked him after leaving spurs 14th on the table and a dismal champions league position. It was not his problems with levy over transfers that got him sacked.

lateefGRDT:
Zaha to Chelsea is flying....
Wat do you guys think??

He will be good but we need a striker more.

Bombblacks:
Same thing that applies to ranieri applies to Pochettino here too.

Leceister was finishing in top 4 before 2016?

Bombblacks:
How can a club that was not expected to finish top 4 before the season starts bottle a title. If Leicester had finished 2nd that season would you call ranieri a bottler and a useless coach?

No because it was not expected but before the game against Chelsea he was seen as the favourite to win the league over leceister since the two were the teams with more points. Wait when they sack Erik don hang you people can get pochettino that will be helping you to finish top 4 but not win title.

Bombblacks:
Name the numerous trophies Tottenham won before Pochettino and the number of times they have finished In the top 4 for 22yra before him?

Leceister that he bottled the league to won their first ever premier league title that year so this can never be an excuse for bottletino. Did he not have a better team than them?

Bombblacks:
How many times have Tottenham finished in top 4 for 22yrs before Pochettino?

Was it to only be qualifying for top 4 Levy signed him? He didn't want to celebrate titles?

Bombblacks:
There's is nothing like if. Pochettino overachieved at Tottenham making them top 4 regulars. That's already an achievement he should be celebrated for. Taking them to their first ever champions league final already makes him a legend.

A legend that delivers top 4 and a first champions league final but no trophies. You are talking as if totenham were one dead club in 2019.

Ennyjay69:
and that's after that fluke champions league final appearance

He contributed to making that final one of the most boring matches people watched.

Bombblacks:
Who made Kane and Son? See the way you typed he had Kane and Son like he signed them when they were world class players for high fees when he was the one who developed them to become World class. How many trophies have Tottenham won In their history before Pochettino? You are typing as if Tottenham were winning numerous trophies and finishing in top 4 regularly before the man came in. Tottenham were shi.t before pochettino made them top 4 regulars.

If he could make them top 4 regulars then they should be no problem with him making them champions. The leceister he bottled the league to were in championship two seasons ago.

Bombblacks:
How many cups did Tottenham win before pochettino and how many times did they finish top4?

Was it to be finishing top 4 Levy hired him for? Totenham won carabao cup before villas boas and him.

Bombblacks:
I am talking about him finishing 2nd with Tottenham.

So why can't him finishing second win a single cup for totenham? Were they a small team?

Ennyjay69:
so he even slipped further down

We have different types of fans here that want us to fail
Imagine hiring popi as our dof
We will have marcelo,silva,Alves,coutinho,finished hazard and busquet with poch as the manager

It is even not bad not to win the league but not to win any cup at all with that good team he partly built. In his last season before he was sacked he was destroyed 7-1 by bayern and left them at 14th in the table.

Bombblacks:
He finished 2nd with Tottenham.

Behind Conte. We are talking of him bottling against leceister not Conte who won the league with a bigger margin.

Android22:
Because Tottenham lost to Mourinho's 2013-14 league winners in the final of that Carabao cup.

TT choked a 3-0 lead right? That is your point if you don't know.

You say he was not sacked for poor form but he was 3rd abi? He had lost 4 of 17 league games right? You know TT did not beat Lille that season as well and that Lyon beat him at home.

I told you I can amplify his failures if we are going to go down that route. You said TT was better at coaching attacking teams and that Poch played haram football - both are factually wrong.

Tuchel was top of his champions league group. He was just a point behind Lyon in league one so his sacking was obviously not for sporting reasons. He was sacked after a fallout with the psg board. Tuchel was one of the best attacking coaches at Dortmund with aubameyang and dembele. You said pep recommended him to bayern which tuchel rejected to move to Chelsea. Will pep recommend a coach that hardly attacks to bayern?

Bombblacks:
Pochettino made Tottenham soo good that finishing 2nd is seen as bottling and a failure.

He finished 3rd behind leceister and assnal not second.

donstan18:
That very season, ManU, Chelsea, Liverpool and City were totally shiit.

Arsenal weren’t even consistent, was just using experience and Sanches’s individual performances.

Spurs still couldn’t stop Leicester that season after all the qualities they had. To even think it took a shiity Chelsea and bad playing Hazard that season to end their title challenge makes it more foolish and stoopid for anyone to be clamoring for Poch as our manager.

Even if hazard didn't score to make leceister champions he will still have lost that league. Man shitty was fourth. Dead manyoo went to ulokpa. We were struggling after Mourinho was sacked early in the season. Plenty people thought it will be him that would win the league. Pochettino must not come to the bridge.

Android22:
I never discussed who I preferred or who was better.

The facts are, TT has no history of being a better attacking coach than Pochettino. Espanyol, Southampton, Tottenham and PSG have proven this.

TT was 3rd with PSG when he was fired, Poch took over that team and finished 2nd. Then won the same trophies TT won there the next season.

Poch had 86 points to Conté's 93 in 2016-17 when Tottenham were 2nd in the league. Tottenham scored the most goals that season. Poch is the only other manager who finished above Pep and Klopp apart from Conté - in the same season. Can you swear on your life that TT will achieve it?

The Bayern that Poch beat is still the same Bayern that beat TT in that final. Coached by Hansi Flick. If Lewa's absence is key for Bayern how did Poch fair without Kane?

Poch's PSG led City and were better in the first half. City came back courtesy a serendipitous cross by KdB and Mahrez freekick that snuck passed the wall. City only got comfy after the lead.

I can downplay any TT achievement if we are to play that game. I can show that his PSG only beat ninnies during the COVID-19 UCL season and that the performances were scrappy and unconvincing. They needed some heroics to beat freaking Atalanta. I can add that RDM did a harder job in winning the UCL in 2012 with Chelsea than TT in 2021.

You are giving excuses for TT losing to RM but blaming Poch for his players collapsing from a winning position when both teams did same. Chelsea leading 3-0 which team was going through then?

I like both Managers but facts are stubborn.

So why didn't he win even the carabao cup with that that team? Tuchel came from 3-1 down against real Madrid before they came back at Bernabeu. Nobody even your man shitty could not do it in the knockout stage. Pochettino had a 2-0 aggregate lead with 30 minutes to go but still bottled it with a better team. Are you not seeing the way psg is playing now compared to under him? And tuchel was sacked because he fell out with their sporting director and the club. That was also what happened to him in Dortmund. He was not sacked because of bad results. Pochettino took psg that tuchel left with one point behind the leader and finished second on the last day of the season. Lille even beat him. Is Lille even stronger than psg that you will be celebrating him taking second after them?

popizaino:
Smh!

What is all this one of way seeing football?

Mourinho got knocked out by liverpool on two different occasions to reach the UCL finals but a coaching nonenetity like Avram Grant defeated this same liverpool to reach the UCL final, if you cannot see Mourinho's surperior tactics even in the two defeats to liverpool then let me join you to rate Avram Grant above Mourinho for making the UCL finals Mourinho couldn't make.


Secondly, Leicester city winning the EPL 2016 does not prove anything on Pochettino. He did not bottle anything,infact just like Leicester city who over achieved by being the champion,Pochettino equally over achieved by making second position with Tottenham. You and every other book-makers in this world would have written off Tottenham to even make top 4 in a league that had man city,chelsea,man united,liverpool talk more of being the 2nd before the season started,so tell me how someone who exceeded expectations is a bottler? Do you know the meaning at all ?


If Sarri and other clueless manager could win trophy at Chelsea na Pochettino no go come win ?

But Mourinho still won a champions league before he came to Chelsea and made us a force when manyoo the time it was still alive and assnal were in charge of england. Pochettino with a good totenham squad could not win any title during his time there before he was sacked after a lot of bad results. Leceister and totenham were going close in the league with assnal at their backs. Plenty people predicted that he would win the league in May since they were the stronger team but he not only bottled to leceister he also came third after assnal. Totenham under pochettino were one of the best teams in the league and also qualifying for champions league regularly so they were not a small team. I even prefer sarri to him.

Trevor012:
Keep quiet. Go and pay the 60m Everton want for Gordon dry gin

How much did ajax scam you for brazilian gervinho? .

popizaino:
Football is not 1+1=2.

The same Pochettino who couldn't pep Guardiola with PSG beat pep Guardiola with Tottenham.........how about that?

If he could beat apari with totenham then he should have beat him with psg too. He built a good totenham team and used young players which he got credit for so why he will he stop at that if he has superior tactics? He was even destroyed 7-1 in his last season before dead barka. Tuchel at least won dfb pokal. If he goes someone better should be hired not pochettino that his biggest credit is losing a champions league final.

popizaino:
Winning Trophy isn't the same as having Tactics. Save me stress of typing plenty words jare. All I will keep saying is that he has superior tactics than Thomas Tuchel. Our Coach rode on the back of being an underdog to do well with us in his first season, now that we now seen as favourites we can see how clueless he has been.

What is the essence of having tactics if it's not to compete and win trophies? We know tuchel has been clueless severally after winning the champions league as an underdog but pochettino has failed as both an underdog and overdog if there is something called that. Pochettino was fighting leceister for premier league in 2016 and bottled it. He did well to go to champions league final and didn't really do well to equalize. I'm sure if salah didn't score that early pk Klopp will have destroyed him. The next year he turned totenham to a midtable team before he was sacked. We should get somebody better to replace tuchel not pochettino with his so called superior tactics.

Android22:
This is cap. Tuchel was 3rd in January when he was fired. Pochettino finished 2nd by reducing the deficit between 1 and 2 when he finished 2nd. He inherited Tuchel's team. He also lost to City in a SF of the UCL.

He got to a UCL final, finished 2nd and got to a Carabao cup final all with Tottenham losing to better teams.

He is better with youth and burgeoning players and has better attacking tactics in his bag than Tuchel will ever have. Tuchel is a reactive coach. Very good at countering what other managers plan to do but devising attacking play from scratch? lol

How many points were lille using to lead psg when tuchel was sacked? Was it 10 or 15? Did he not lose the league on the last game day to lille? Pochettino laboured to beat bayern without lewadoski over two legs using away goals. They went to semifinals and didn't even give apari much problems with his quality team. But tuchel shut down apari with one of the weakest teams in the competition. The next season was even worse with him bottling 2-0 to real Madrid that looked finished. Tuchel almost came back from 3-1 down to beat them if not for that modric genuis. Pochettino that parks the bus plenty times against big teams is the one with better attacking tactics and he could not win one cup with it before psg. .

popizaino:
He will make us better with his superior tactics.

Even though tuchel is not making us happy. He still has superior tactics compared to pochettino. Look at the way psg are playing now and compare them to how they were average under pochettino. He did not win one title at totenham. He even plays more haram football than tuchel. He is meant for mid table teams like dead manyoo not us.

Another failure like Ole and ronaldo.

Trevor012:
Only 7 more chances created than Grealish who has played 7 games less. Grealish is a beast unlike the stat padder. Grealish who is the Best player and captain of Aston Villa but you won't see him taking penalities to pad his stats. All I need next season is Grealish or/and Sancho in this team.

A40:
Fernandinho has 1 cricket scoreline loss. Busquets had like 5. Stop obfuscating argument. Nothing concern Fernandinho or Ibime for this matter. Stay on topic

Lol where did you see Busquets in Euro 2008? Look at you boldly capping. Champions League 2008/2009 Sergio Busquets came off the bench. He was a benchwarmer that played when the big boys were injured. Xaviesta won major trophies without Busquets.

Busquets cannot even avoid humiliation in elite Europe sans Xavi.

Roma
Liverpool
Bayern
PSG
Bayern again (Didn't even pass group stage)

Same story for Spain. Can't win nothing, can't put up any decent performances

I like how you have been destroying basket since morning sir. He is truly a liability but I have one question Is it true you ran away from assnal to bayern?

popizaino:
Not a reason not to want Pochettino.

How will pochettino make us better sir?

popizaino:
Boehly should be preparing Tuchel sack letter pls, can't be watching our matches in this manner. Mauricio Pochettino is very much available.

Why should we go from suffer to suffer? Tuchel took psg to champions league final. What will pochettino that lost the league to weak Lille and bottled a 2-0 lead against real Madrid with messi, neymar and mbappe now do?

BlueMann:
Thiago Silva against Leicester City:

� 78 Touches
� 56 Passes
� 88% Pass Accuracy
� 8/15 Long Balls
� 5/5 Ground Duels
� 4/5 Aerial Duels
� 5/5 Tackles
� 4/4 Clearances
� 2 Blocks

Still one of the best.

At age 37.

raumdeuter:
when was the last year Chelsea won the league

You did not answer my own question. Tell me the answer and I will answer your own.

raumdeuter:
Farmers league

When was the last year any team not called bayern win bundesliga?

Salah has finished people today. .

donstan18:
Imagine what a striker is saying.

Imagine Auba, Ronaldo, Kane, Suarez, Halland, Mbappe, Gabriel Jesu or even Werner saying such.

He is just playing because tuchel is from his country. If it's another coach they will be looking for how to loan and sell him at the same time. But your mount has been rubbish too.