₦airaland Forum

johnydon22:
Nice postulation and all, but i want to engage you just a little bit..


About the bolded. . You say God is unknowable, since it is unknowable how then did you get to know there is any at all?

Sometimes they forget that they're talking to humans

Na like this subsidy take start; initially with good intention and with hope that it will end as soon as possible but we all knw how the thing take dey go now.

Anybody wey believe say Nigeria go change and become a better country dey dream.

Here is the man Rochas Abokiocha was struggling to be in same pix with.

WailingWailer00:
Just as they have feelings for those killed by your terrorists brothers ISIS, BOKO HARAM, AL QAEDA

Lol, am not a muslim neither.

I'm only telling u to stop hating people just because of what one ancient book said about them.

WailingWailer00:
The sons of Ismael would always suffer, not surprised, the prophesy is being fulfilled

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, leave Jewish myth and have some feelings for your fellow human being.

This is a strategy to make sure that Africa esp West Africa keep buying from them.

Reyginus:
You have obviously not been following or you are attempting to be mischievous.

His point is that every thing that lacks fact or evidence is delusional. I am only trying to help him see the error of the statement.

Or can you tell me what that means.

The problem is that christians knw how to twist statement and that's how u keep twisting ur so called word of god(bible) into different versions. Here is what he said;

I've explained this many times on NL already
faith, –noun
"BELIEF that is not based on facts or evidence"
de·lu·sion, –noun
"a fixed false BELIEF that is resistant to reason or
confrontation with actual fact"
you see faith is just a fancy, less aggressive and precise term
for Delusion

Is speculation a belief? Or should we take ur belief in god as speculation

Reyginus:
Lololololol. So speculations are now facts? We have create a soft landing for science. Isn't that it?

From Stconvict;
Speculation is there for speculation sake. That's the reason
why it is called hypothesis in Science. It is nothing until it
gets proven with facts, evidence, empirical studies that can
be tested again and again and still give the same result.
Mind you speculations are based on observations of
physical phenomena. YOU GUYS ARE NOT SPECULATING, you are
claiming god exists without any physical evidence. That's
delusional!

Reyginus:
Your words:
' It is nothing until it gets proven with facts..'

Why is it now 'nothing' rather than 'delusion' even though there are no facts?

It is nobody's fault if u don't knw the meaning of speculation

Laredojohn:
It's yet to be fixed, but sure the RMAFC are making adjustments...

I'm talking about their current pay.

Laredojohn:
“What we read on the pages of newspapers is not known to the commission because there is no member of the National Assembly, based on what we determined, who earns up to N1 million per month.

So how much is their pay?

Make money----Save money

Ihe n'ato uto adi ami ubochi obula.

When the going was good, u leave ur people go stay with woman now things don change u com dey say ur family abandon u.

In as much as am wishing u a quick recovery, I've no pity on u.

Ru-bb-is-h,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Expecting to see the likes of Fatai Rolling Dollars.

South East govs are not having any issue with Buhari.

Okoroawusa the talking governor!

rokiatu:
Money talk baby.

Which money?
Day break in any of Ndokwa hotels in Lagos is not more than 4k so with 20k, u any guy can do this.

This is MADNESS to the highest order!!!

johnydon22:
The universe is complex right? yes good.. then going from your analogy the complexity of the universe requires a designer...

then again you forgot that this designer must be super complex in order to have designed something as complex as the universe..

So in order for something that complex as the designer to exist, it must have been designed by another designer who in turn also requires a greater designer and so it stretches into an infinite regress of designers..

There's no better way to tell them

chocolateme:
you WIN. tk

Your initial post still stand.

In marriage, love comes after understanding and tolerance. And I don't believe that there is such thing as real love,"love is love" it's either u love something or u don't love it.

aIrbenIc:
Woah! Coincidentally I used the same analogy for her. It's not possible to believe that, one can only pretend to.

Thanks.

Pretend??

Except u are not planning to marry the girl then pretense may be the solution

marshalcarter:
Bros.....me wit you no dey fyt ooo....but cum to GOD nd he'll welcum you with open arms...learn to love GOD....he's with you...he's with me


#singin..babababababababa baba mi lo ke-baaaabaaa(let's go dancin)

Lol.
This guy no well I swear!

CaptainJune:
BRIGHTRIVERS and Youngpol,
have you read the stories of the following former atheists who died and why they gave their lives to Christ?


Thomas Welch. He fell from a great height and died instantly.

Howard Storm. Had a fatal disease and died after a nurse told him that a surgeon could not be found that day to treat him even though she expressed hope that one would be found the next day.

Ian McCormack. He went swimming with some friends in Mauritius, was stung by a box-jellyfish and died later.

Dr Eben Alexander. A neurosurgeon and atheist. Went into three weeks of coma when he succumbed to meningitis. All that time in coma, his brain was dead, yet he had consciousness.

These are just a few but are eye openers to let you know that atheists bask in ignorance, that is, until they come face to face with reality, especially through death, and all their argument against God's existence crumble into pieces.

Of course, there are former atheists who didn't need death to convince them of the truth in the Bible, but who can win an argument against death?

Yet you forgot to add the Rev. Father who died last week in the beach party organized for him by his parishioners. May be he is an Atheist too;

The Catholic community in Lagos is yet to come to terms
with the tragic death of Rev. Francis Alex Okafor. The man
drowned during a send-forth party organised in his honour
at the Ibeshe Beach in Oriade Local Council Development
Area of the state. Eyewitness account said, while Rev. Okafor
and some of his guests were swimming, a strong current
came and carried him, together with some of the people.
Divers who were immediately mobilised were able to rescue
three of them, while Rev Okafor could not be found. Two
days after, his lifeless body was found floating at the edge of
the sea.
Rev. Okafor who was in his 30s, was ordained Deacon on
July 4, 2015, and was subsequently posted to St. Stephen’s
Catholic Church, Agboju, Lagos for the mandatory six weeks
apostolic work.
Describing the incident as a rude shock, Mr. Percy Okuofo,
president of Redemption Youth Vocation Ministry (RYVM),
the group which organised the ill-fated send-forth, told
Saturday Sun that the late Reverend was an excellent
example to the youths.
According to him,
By Catholic rules, before one could become a priest, he
must have undergone about nine years of intensive and
rigorous training, which also involves an apostolic work in a
Catholic church. This would enable him to get acquainted
with all it takes to celebrate a mass and acquire more
experience in the various aspects of church administration.
For the late Rev he has already been ordained a deacon,
and waiting to be ordained a priest next year.
Having completed the six weeks apostolic work at St.
Stephen’s Catholic Church Agboju, the late Okafor was full of
joy and was warming up to meet his family in Zaria. The Par­
ish Priest Rev. Father Michael Okoh, the parishioners and
the members of the church planned a colourful send-forth
for him on Sunday, August 16, after which he would leave
for further engagements.
Ahead of the proposed sent-forth party, the youths of the
church under the umbrella of RSYVM, decided to organise
the beach party for him.
Battling to control his tears, Okuofo said:
while some of the youths and the late Reverend were
swimming, three of them, including the clergy were swept
away by a strong current and vanished in the water.
Onlookers and other swimmers were surprised at what had
happened and immediately went on a rescue mission.
Luckily, some divers around were able to save two of the
youths, a boy and a girl, while Okafor’s body could not be
found. We kept monitoring the area till his bloated body
surfaced.
The late Okafor who hailed from Anambra State, was trained
by his single mother. He was to be ordained priest in July
2016, after about nine years training. It was also learnt that
he was the only son of his parents.
http://www.ngtrends.com/2015/08/catholic-clergy-drowns-
during-his-send-forth-party-at-lagos-beach/

BRIGHTRIVERS:
But how do we explain Miracles and prophesies done in churches? ..if there can be a Spiritual healing to a problem science can't solve,don't u think there's a spiritual being somewhere :.

Also,if a Prophet can tell you a problem going on in your Family without u havin told him... Dnt u think there's a spiritual being somewhere??

Make believe that's what those miracles are.

huangcheng:
What pains me the most is that Dr. Goodluck Ebelemi Jonathan was on the seat of power for 5 long years but watched as his people suffer and their land destroyed by oil spill and did nothing. From today henceforth, i take back every support i had given GEJ. He is indeed a clueless murderfvcker.

The reason am not angry with that clueless man is because I knw him as a Trainee President as ACN's laying machine, Liar Mohammed rightly called him then.

naijaking1:
Word!
Allocation has become the oil that greases the machinary of our corruption in this country. There should be no allocations based on revenue derived from our people's backyard in the delta. Instead, people from delta and other people with extractable minerals from their land should be made to pay tax based on products sold. That's the way it's done in fair and democratic countries.

Yeah, that's the way its done in a fair and democratic societies; in other words, nigeria is unfair and anti-democratic society i.e Zoo

anulaxad:
Must you mention Yorubas in your posts? You tribalistic bigots. I actually thought that this thread was going to make it without the mentioning of the Yorubas.

Are we not talking about Nigeria?

Why won't I mention yoruba?

jemir000:
That is the point bro...that is it...ACN and the other Hausa party came together to form APC...now that Igbos and SS are trying to come together to create a formidable force, the almajiris and the oduduas are quick to bring about division and my south south brothers are falling for it ...SMH

They are falling for it because the yoruba control media are using "they want ur oil" to deceive them.
They earlier they understand that East need no oil for their survival, the better for them.

I for one will like to see an Independent State of oil rich Delta.

Obiagelli:
is it the north that is also looting bayelsa allocation.

Allocation is just for maintenance. Federal presence to a region is what develops a region,

freeage7:
My brother talk is very cheap on Nairaland. Clamouring for state of Biafra on Nairaland doesn't hold any water. I just want to remind you that you can never get sovereignty on Nairaland, neither can you get it on a round table ok. It is time to faced reality. I quiet agree that Ojukwu vision then was beyond oil.

The fight for freedom can start from anywhere and anyhow.

jemir000:
if south south and south east come together... with one voice...there is no way the northerners and yorubas can defeat our one voice

That is "if" well, the truth is that ss people don't even know whom the enemy is.

The Danjumas, the folawiyos, the Alakijas are enjoying their oil money yet the believe that Biafrans are the enemy

jemir000:
Restructuring of the present system would be nice...and if that won't be allowed to happen, then we join igbos for a lower Niger republic...and if that still doesn't work, then we go for a Niger Delta Republic

All is likely to work out except the Restructuring of the present system.

Who will restructure it?

Fulamafia:
Ask yourself how the Fulani have been the grandmasters of every political chess game in this country.

Back to the topic.

All thanks to the enemity between the Yorubas and the Igbos.

But the day the SW and SE will realize the their beef is not paying them both; that day will mark the end of Fulani's mastery of political chess game.

jemir000:
we have to uproot these hausas off our oil wells...

You can't do that as far as you're part of nigeria.

Canvass for an independent state, that's the only solution