₦airaland Forum

burp18:
How do you solve a problem when you have differing opinions and different people trying to sabotage your efforts. Nigeria is too diverse . We have a multitude of tribes and religions where everyone feels he's the qualified one and should be the one too rule.

So are you suggesting that we continue this way?
There has to be a solution, remember that your opinon is also part of the differing opinion and that because you hold such opinon does not automatically mean that you are right.

Do you think that the United states kind of democracy of true federalism and resrouce control at regional level can help mitigate this?

Don't you think that it's never going to be fair when you take a resources from another state to find project in another state? Don't you think thay this is the reason why our politicians are lazy and never going to be innovative?
Don't you think that this is the reason they are playing the tribal card to maintain the status quo?

These are questions that you should be asking yourself.

Which part of the country wants the sttus quo more?

Which part is benefiting from it and which part isn't?

These are the questions you people are shying away from and this is where the solution lies.

burp18:
Lol. I'm from the middle belt. And where have there ever been free and fair elections in Nigeria 😅 Why do you think elections are declared inconclusive when they find its not going their way?

It's possible, it's not uncommon for people from middle belt especially Muslims from Kwara, Kogi, Niger and Nasarawa to be anti-igbo. It's just how the country is right now. It's very common that Christians from Benue, Taraba and Jos will not be anti-igbo.
I suspect that you are Muslim so it's understandable

Since I cannot really stop you from being Igbophobic, can we concentrate more on the solution to this mess?

burp18:
No one's maligning anyone. I think the problem is sometimes you people can't hide your hatred and bigotry for other tribes and it gets in the way of everything you do.

Okay, so away frm that since we can never reach a consensus there.

How do we resolve this issue of stagnant Nigeria and disunity? Or do you want things to continue like this?

burp18:
Nigerian has a multitude of problems ranging from insecurity, poverty, unemployment et all, Be specific.

And I reiterate what I said about northerners and yorubas being more accommodating. Heck I travelled to some far away village in Adamawa last year. It's a typical bush. As in trenches 😁 And there's this Igbo guy I met who owns a pharmacy there. We got along so well😁

I can't take your word for it. You have a history for tribal bigotry against Igbo people. It's in your history.
How do you expect me to take you word for it when you have never been neutral? You see, I can't.


So how do we solve this problem now in your opinion?

burp18:
Firstly, You ought to learn to stop creating perspective of what people are based on your interactions with them. I'm not yoruba .
Secondly, The question is not whether or not Hope won free and fair? Isn't it both to your advantage of you put your differences aside and work together of the better of the your people. Help me understand this

I don't also believe that you are not a yoruba. I maybe wrong but to be sincere, I have seen a lot of people lie about their tribes just to win a debate here. Especially Yorubas and igbos. People lie a lot here

That been said, I'm not interested in anything that is not genuine, I only need you to be sincere with yourself, you know within yourself that in a fair and fair election, it's mostly likely that Hope may not win. Whatever you say after that has derailed the aim of being sincere.

burp18:
Nigeria can work. Maybe it not now . But it definitely can and will work because we are a people with will and drive. Every problem bedeviling this country is happening because most of these elements are not acting on their own.

How can Nigeria work when we are not agreeing?

On what basis should we igbos agree with Yorubas and the hausas to make the country work?
Are you in anyways ready to make peace?

This country won't work as long as igbos are maligned, I know what I'm saying.

I'm genuinely asking this question, please don't be sentimental with your answer.

burp18:
Every region has it's fair share of problems. It's laughable when you talk about tribal bigotry. The Yorubas and hausas and the most accommodating kind of people in this country. Igbos on the other hand are very intolerant. It's the reason there aren't a lot of Muslims and mosques in the east. Heck you'd be seen as some outcast or weird person for accommodating or leasing g your property to a Muslim. I've been to at least 34 of 36 states in this country so I know what I'm saying.

There's no evidence that the yorubas and hausa are more accommodating than Igbos. It's still the same media lies we have been talking about coming from you and other tribal bigots alike.

Theres no evidence that you have been to 34 of 36 states, I have seen a lot of tribal bigots lie here just to defend their bigotry and Igbophobia. You could be doing same

Now to test how smart you are, I will ask you a question, what do you think is the solution to the current Nigerian problem?

Let's stop feeding you with your usual tribal food

burp18:
I don't mean to deviate. But can you please explain what you mean by he's not the choice of the Igbos? You see what I mentioned about being divided amongst yourselves? Rochas was doing okay for himself but most Igbos hated him because he was with the opposition. Same with Rotimi Ameachi, And it goes on and on. The question is,, how has not liking these men helped you? Hope Uzodimma is governor for the second term today and you ask who are the biggest losers? It's laughable knowing the only reason most easterners don't support these men because they're in the ruling APC. A party formed by the hausas and yoruba you rever so mucv

I don't know what it means, that's how you people see it.

I'm saying that from your own perspective, you think Igbo has a choice.

Dude, if I take you to a shrink in Okija to swear, can you swear that Hope won the election free and fair, if you lie you will die? 😂

One thing I admire about Yoruba people generally is your ability to see white and try to convince everyone that it's black. It's extraordinary because you and I know that the electoral process is shit 😅😅

Rolings:
Half story
Incomplete and inaccurate
The other 2 flatmates are treating the third guy like that because his brothers killed the fathers of the other two and left their own father be. Then the first 2 also killed his father and a war ensued which the 3rd guy lost .
Guy you lost
Take whatever comes to you
You clearly can't take on the other two...at least not alone

At the end of the day, there is still no peace in the house and everybody is suffering it.

Still boils dwn to why Nigeria cannot work. You see, we are both right

burp18:
Are you being sarcastic? Letsybe frank. We know who controls the media as it stands today. Even without a lot of resources at your disposal. We see how much you control the media. We saw it during the end sars period. We saw it prior the elections. It was so much that you could sell anything to an outside that wasn't living in Nigeria. I give it to you guys.🌚

put up a news today about a crime committed by an Igbo person, you will see how your tribesmen will react to it. Including you.

You will react like Yorubas arw saints and they never commit any crime. You will keep stressing that Igbo part of the crime. It's part of the problem we have as a nation. Tribal bigotry

burp18:
I didn't voted in the last presidential election because all of the three candidates are all a bunch of failures. But if a man like Charles Soludo were in the race. He'd gladly have my vote. Man is very bright.

I don't care whether you voted or not.
Voting Soludo now goes a long to tell me the type of person you are m, Soludo has been in Anambra for 3 years and has nothing to show for it. A sound human should not vote for Soludo who's failing in Anambra as we speak.

It's pontificates to the initial issues I raised that you will probably vote Soludo because he's not the igbos Choice or because you are not going to vote bum anyways but just looking for a excuse. We know all these gimmicks

burp18:
The difference is I don't see prominent Yorubas coming out to support bad things. Your people on the other hand are all over twitter trying so hard to spin the narrative on how Chinaza is just the kingpin and not the mastermind. Stop supporting nonsense oga.

No difference is that the Yorubas media hides a lot of it and many Yorubas are so tribalistic that whenever they see an Igbo name associated to a crime, they will blow it out of proportion and make it tribal.

They form saint like their own tribesmen do not also commit crimes. That's the difference, that what we are fighting

burp18:
Everyone's been calling the fulanis for the role they have played in the terrorism that's ravaged this country and no one has come out to support them. Chinaza am Igbo of eastern descent gts called out amd boom. You're all supporting him😆

Should also call Yorubas for the role they play in ritual killing and skull mining?

No, that's wrong. Just today, I have seen 3 news of Yoruba people mining skulls. If we want the country to grow, we can't be doing that

burp18:
See there's an angle to this that you don't see. Nigeria can spend billions of dollars on whatever the hell it wants and nobody would flinch. Nobody really cares no body is really patriotic. That's why we have all our politicians looting our monies and buying properties abroad. You're only hurt because your politicians are looting you dry and you're left out.😁

it's because the house is divided, we cannot stand against the polticians because you will check the name and region of the person starting the movement and your polticians will play the tribal card.

It's not hard to grasp. Let an Igbo man today genuinely start a movement against Nigerian politicians today, I'm sure you will fall for the tribal card

burp18:
No one's maligning anyone. Stop trying to whip up sentiments to get pity. There are over 400 ethnic groups in Nigeria. You're no better than the rest

There are 3 major tribes, one is too big to be maligned.

You can malign Nupe and they will keep shut, not igbos.
Have you seen the amount of propaganda against igbos, you just dished one with th Chinaza thing here.

And is Nigeria working? No.

A part of Nigeria left for Cameroon just years after the war, Nigeria did not fight to keep them, why? Where they not worth it?

burp18:
Was the amount worth the millions of innocent easterners that died in the civil war? I just hate the idea that there are a lot of innocent people who opposed the idea of the coup but they didn't have a choice.

The amount was definitely worth it for Nigeria.
Why do you think a country spent $130m people in war if it's not worth it?

You need us and that's why 😂

burp18:
Was the amount worth the millions of innocent easterners that died in the civil war? I just hate the idea that there are a lot of innocent people who opposed the idea of the coup but they didn't have a choice.

Everything you said here would have been valid if Nigeria were working.

There's no single part of this country that is working and why is that?

burp18:
Was the amount worth the millions of innocent easterners that died in the civil war? I just hate the idea that there are a lot of innocent people who opposed the idea of the coup but they didn't have a choice.

everything I said in the original topic is the truth and that's why you are hurting.

Is Nigeria working? No
Is there a deliberate agenda to malign a certain tribe? Yes


Why can't you face the truth?

burp18:
Lol. You need to understand that it's impossible to split this country. The only possibility I see of dividing this country is you merged with the Yorubas, who you are so much because you don't share thesame views. Why am I saying? You couldn't even get the support of your direct SS neighbors. Even amongst the S/Easterners. You're all divided amongst yourselves. Dead that idea bro.. na suicide mission 😅 it's like walking straight into tr enemy's camp

Yes, you are right, whatever you say is right. You are expert in international relationship 😂

I'm glad that you are justifying what I initially said in the original topic about an agenda

oskopy:
May not work is understatement.the main topic is Nigeria is not working.

They have gathered again against minister of fct to frustrate him out of office just because he is Igbos.

Though he is not saint either.

Wike does not think that he's Igbo though.
That has to be straight.

burp18:
And please note. Nobody's holding you back. You can leave when you're ready. Only this time you need to prepare better.

How can you say nobody is holding us and yet Nigeria spent $130m in the space of 30months to keep us.

$130M IS ABOUT, 1.3trillion naira. That money was more than the Nigerian budget in 1967.

Whadafuk are you saying?

burp18:
Funny isn't it. Chinaza is not supposed to be a kidnapper because he's from your ebo tribe? Leemao.

if Igbos decide to go today, Nigeria will still fight to keep us.

😂

burp18:
And please note. Nobody's holding you back. You can leave when you're ready. Only this time you need to prepare better.

Did you know how much money Nigeria spent to hold us back in 1967?

Why do you like that narrative that only suits your little ego? 😂

burp18:
Let you go? If you have to ask for permission to leave, doesn't that mean you're not ready? Or you're scared . Lool

So why did you fight tooth and nail and even invested so much in war if it wasn't worth it 😂

Spare me the war jargons, Nigeria wanted igbos to stay and that's why they invested a lot of money fighting.

burp18:
Spare the whole morality talk. We both know the people who introduced kidnapping to Nigeria. We didn't even know a thing like kidnapping in the north a decade ago. I'm guessing Chinaza the kidnapper who was recently apprehended is a hausa man from the north.

Yes, you are very correct. We should believe your own side of the story 😂

burp18:
The 60's you? You don't say? Is it the same 60s where you guys decided to drag us into a senseless war you knew you weren't prepared for? Only to come crying fowl .

Well, it would not have been a war if you didn't lock the door.

Did you read the original post correctly?
Everything would hve been okay if you had just let them go.

You and I agree with the analogy in the OP.

burp18:
There you go making it about tribe. Is always about tribe tribe tribe with you lots. And for the records nobody's marginalizing you or anyone. You just carry too much bile, hatred and bitterness and it is not letting you move forward as a people.

yes, it's true. They are the bad ones, my own tribe is the Saint because I said so. Listen to only my own side of the story.

That's how you sound 😂

burp18:
Things are bad. Neither Obi nor Atiku or Tinubu could have been the right choice for us as a country. Elections have come and gone and you need to move on.

keep shying away from the truth and thinking at it will work for you family.

If your family gets money, so who will protect you from kidnappers when Nigeria is not working?
That's why I hate the way an average Nigerian reasons, always about them and their immediate family. Always reasoning like myopic people.

opera1:
It may not work for you but it will surely work for me and my family

Yeah, we have been saying this since 1960.

Selfish being , so if your family is okay, it means that Nigeria is working. That's the mentality criminal politicians have.
Most of you hate the truth and that's why things are not working

burp18:
you need sulk it up sometimes and quit b***ing over this. You're the same person whom if I memory serves me right went into a wager. Looking for who to place bets with as to how Tinubu can never win the elections. Is it that you're jobless or you've too much free time on you hands?

where have you seen a house divided against itself working before?

You can deny the truth all you want. For Nigeria to work, peace has to reign. Igbo as a tribe is too large to me maligned without consequences

burp18:
Things are bad. Everybody knows things are bad. I wish you what you wish yourself. Nigeria will work for me and al the people who want the betterment of this great country.

The truth is staring at you, but you will choose to deny it 😂

You and I know that I'm saying the truth

Paraman:
You will wail till 2031 and beyond

And everyone will keep suffering for it.
It's simple, who are the biggest losers here. The tribe or everyone?