Judybash93:


So, out of 1000+ gods, what evidence do you have to prove that the only true God comes from the middle east?

I'm happy you yourself wrote "1000+ gods" that means you believe those ones are counterfeit and impostors, and you know there can't be a counterfeit if there is no original. God of the Bible is the Only God every other gods are idols and demons. Which one do you serve, God or idol/demon?

Horiolah:


You worship god(Father), Jesus (Son) and some unknown spirit. Some of y'all even worship Mary. So??

Who or what do you worship? Don't be a coward. Be proud to tell us what you worship

Horiolah:


Hinduism.

They worship Shiva, Vishnu, Devi etc. Just go and search for Shiva on Google and you will see one the gods Hindus are worshipping !

Horiolah:


Have you any proof??

Yes. Mention any religion beside Christianity and Judaism and I will prove to you that the followers are worshipping demons and idols

Nggs121:
There is no god
Wf kumuyi is just a scammer after your money

Any body who claims to hear voices or see visions is either a liar of schizophrenic

You are a mindless fanatic with no proof of any spiritual being and if you said you have proof, you are a liar

If your god is real ,ask him to strike me with thunder

Liars and deluded sheeo

You may be right, because even the Bible clearly states it Psalm 14:1

donaldde2:
What happen to the rest religions?

Judaism and Christianity are the only religion worshipping the true God of the universe. Every other religion are worshipping demons in different guises.

That has always been their tactic, distraction.

It's actually looks more like it.

It's getting more interesting

hmm

Alhaji Teckino, the man wey talk say "I geti big cassava"

When someone says "I get big cassava"

This is what they are talking about!

Rashduct4luv:


Who gave the Bible it's name? No one cares to know.

How many people memorised the Bible in its original language? Who needs to know.

Can the chains of transmission of the Bible be authenticated? Who even understands authentication!

Abeg no tag me again!

Once again the Qur'an never mentioned Bible in any way. Scriptures refers to Books given to the Prophets of Allah before the last Prophet Muhammad.

Go and argue with the Quran

Rashduct4luv:


Actually, it is like you are truly confused or let's just say mistaken!

Where did you see the word "Bible" mentioned in the Qur'an?

What was mentioned was "Injeel" of Jesus son Mary and "Taorah" of Moses (Peace be on them all). The Bible today was written by over 40 people spread over several hundreds of years!

Alternatively, you can answer the question who is the author of the Bible?

What's the meaning of scriptures? if Allah calls Christians and Jews People of the Book, what Book is he talking about? Bible is derived from the Latin word Biblia which means Book. Taorah is Torah which is the first 5 books of the Bible, the Injeel is the Gospel, and Allah has told you to use your sense, so if all the books are in the Bible, you still expect Allah to spell it out to you that scriptures and Bible is the same?

ﻛَﺬٰﻟِﻚَ ﻳُﺒَﻴِّﻦُ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻟَﻜُﻢْ ﺀَﺍﻳٰﺘِﻪِۦ ﻟَﻌَﻠَّﻜُﻢْ ﺗَﻌْﻘِﻠُﻮﻥَ
"Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason(intellect)."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242)

You're asking me who wrote the Bible, go and the Sura 10:94 and Sura 16:43

At least we have meaningful names as Titles of the chapters in the Bible . Unlike al Baqara that means The Cow, Al-Maaida: The Table, Al-Ana'am the Cattle and so on

Yusuf001:

OK .. let me Quote the complete Qur'an 8 20 to 23 for u
[20-23] O Believers, obey Allah and His Messenger and do not turn away from the Message after hearing it. Do not be like those who said, "We have heard," but have not listened to it, for the vilest beasts in Allah's sight are those deaf, dumb people who do not use commonsense. Had Allah known any good in them, He would certainly have given them the power of hearing but if He had made them hear it (without perceiving any good in them), they would have turned away from it with disdain.


so please be wise while there is still time

Gimme the full quotation of Quran 2:42 too na, and that of Q10:94, Q16:43 and the other Quranic Quranic verses I quoted for you, you can't be acting wise, answering one question and ignoring others. I know you're pained because I've shown you all these things in the Quran.

Don't go and ask your imams for advice cos they will confuse you the more, follow what the Quran tells you in Q10:94 and Q16:43.


And by the way, which Translation or Version of the Quran did you quote above? It must have cost u a lot of stress trying to get that translation that gives you the meaning you wanted to see. I even like the fact that instead of "reason" that translation says you should use your common sense, please use it and follow the truth

dryakson:

I end this argument with this quote
"my people perish due of lack of knowledge"

Thanks for not been abusive.
Practice ur religion as I wil practice mine.
Thanks.
Bye

But you've not answered my question on which Quran is original. if you choose not to answer, I assume that you have already seen realised that all what they told you about the Quran being from heaven and having one original copy somewhere is all lies. I pray you will allow the truth to set you free. The truth can only be gotten from the Bible.

Allah SWT says:

وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ قَبْلِكَ إِلَّا رِجَالًا نُّوحِىٓ إِلَيْهِمْ ۚ فَسْئَلُوٓا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ
"And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed [Our message]. So ask the people of the message if you do not know."
(QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 43)


Allah SWT says:

فَإِنْ كُنْتَ فِى شَكٍّ مِّمَّآ أَنْزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ فَسْئَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتٰبَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ ۚ لَقَدْ جَآءَكَ الْحَقُّ مِنْ رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ
"So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters."
(QS. Yunus 10: Verse 94)



ﻛَﺬٰﻟِﻚَ ﻳُﺒَﻴِّﻦُ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻟَﻜُﻢْ ﺀَﺍﻳٰﺘِﻪِۦ ﻟَﻌَﻠَّﻜُﻢْ ﺗَﻌْﻘِﻠُﻮﻥَ
"Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242)




ﺇِﻥَّ ﺷَﺮَّ ﺍﻟﺪَّﻭَﺍٓﺏِّ ﻋِﻨْﺪَ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﺍﻟﺼُّﻢُّ ﺍﻟْﺒُﻜْﻢُ ﺍﻟَّﺬِﻳﻦَ ﻟَﺎ ﻳَﻌْﻘِﻠُﻮﻥَ
"Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22)


Don't be the worst of living creatures.

BabyApple:
Is that All?

For now, yes!

dryakson:

Lolx. I don't need that bro.
A 10yrs old Muslim boy will give u the anatomy of our holy book.
Why would I listen to who doesn't understand Arabic?
Can the author read and write in Arabic?
That is one of the beauty of Islam. U can still see a Holy Qur'an that's written more than 1000yrs ago.

I guess u already know the motive of the author. Lolx.
Islam is gradually taking over the world.
Christians convert to Islam on a daily basis. Watch peace tv

Did u know Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world?
I can boldly tell u those terrorists u called Muslim are not. They want to tarnish it image motivated by some anti-islam

And on the fact that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, does being the fastest growing religion mean that Islam is the true way? Don't you know that the world tend to embrace lies more than the truth?

Matthew 7:13


"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it."

So don't gloat too much.

dryakson:

Lolx. I don't need that bro.
A 10yrs old Muslim boy will give u the anatomy of our holy book.
Why would I listen to who doesn't understand Arabic?
Can the author read and write in Arabic?
That is one of the beauty of Islam. U can still see a Holy Qur'an that's written more than 1000yrs ago.

I guess u already know the motive of the author. Lolx.
Islam is gradually taking over the world.
Christians convert to Islam on a daily basis. Watch peace tv

Did u know Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world?
I can boldly tell u those terrorists u called Muslim are not. They want to tarnish it image motivated by some anti-islam

Let me ask you this Question, where is the Original Quran you claim was written more than 1000 years ago? Was it the one that was published in Heaven on paper with hard cover and descended from Heaven or the Quran that was originally written in pieces and fragments, and on palm branches, camels' ribs and shoulder blade? Or the one that was crammed by some reciters many of whom were killed in the Battle of Yamama by Musaylimah?

Or the one that was later compiled after the death of Mohammed who was not alive to verify if what they later compiled in the Quran was the original words that the 'angel' revealed to him. How would anyone take serious the compilation by the people who were not the original recipient of the message and Mohammed was no longer alive to verify it?

Also, when Mohammed himself was alive he mentioned four people whose memory of the Quran he said he trusted most: Abdullahi ibn Masud, Salim, Mu'dh bin Jabal and Ubai ibn Kab.

All traditions agree that Ibn Masud was the most competent as he was always mentioned first by Mohammed. However, during the compilation of the Quran by Abu Bakr which was later continued by Uthman, the ones in Masud's memory which should be most reliable was ignored. (And you expect us to take the compilation seriously).

After the compilation, the Quran was kept in custody of Hafsah.

Several differences existed in the compilation kept with Hafsah and the ones in the memory of the four people mentioned above. So no one could verify whether the pieces collected were complete or authentic.

Many sects including Shia developed because of these various versions. The disagreement led to some killing one another to defend their versions because of this Uthman gathered the records he could possibly gather, using his own discretion to determine which sayings should be accepted and which to reject and edit.

He formed a four-man editorial board headed by Zaid Ibn Thabith to edit the Quran and come out with one copy.

Uthman made sure he collected and destroyed all the other manuscripts that others had compiled and were reciting in Syria, Iraq and Armenia

Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all other Quranic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt.

And this Quran that he ordered Zaid and his editorial board to edit eventually became the authorized version of the Quran kept, not because the other ones are not authentic but because he wanted only one codex to remain.

Among the codices destroyed were Ibn Mas'ud 's and Ubay ibn Ka'b 's codex, none of which exist today.

Sahih Bukhari Vol 6 Book 60 Hadith 484:



Narrated By Anas bin Malik
The Prophet said to Ubai, "Allah has ordered me recite Qur'an to you." Ubai asked, "Did Allah mention me by name to you?" The Prophet said, "Allah has mentioned your name to me." On that Ubai started weeping. (The sub-narrator) Qatada added: I have been informed that the Prophet recited: 'Those who disbelieve among the people of the Scripture,"... to Ubai.



You can imagine? And this guy's recitation was not later honoured and included, and you expect us to believe that the current Quran is complete?



I can go on and on...

Now the question is when you said the original Quran is preserved, which one are you referring to?

dryakson:
kk

You may also read this book to know more about The Quran, The Bible and Salvation

"Anatomy of the Qur'an" by G.J.O. Moshay

BabyApple:
Okay Thank you.

You're welcome.
You may also read this book to know more about The Quran, The Bible and Salvation

"Anatomy of the Qur'an" by G.J.O. Moshay

dryakson:

Lolx.
Remain blessed my bro.
Cheers

Remain blessed too brother. cheers. Just try and read to find out the truth, read the Quran with the intent to learn, not what your imam tells you, and you will find the truth there. After all Quran had already told you to use your own reason not the reason your Imams give you. Remain blessed

dryakson:
JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION(PLS NO ABUSIVE WORDS. TNX)

John 5:30
English Standard Version
“I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me.

If the Qur'an believes Jesus performed miracle, don't forget the same Qur'an said "by Allah's(God's) will.
Jesus said he can do nothing by himself then who are u to give him the power he denied? Pls use common sense.
About the mentioning of the Christian and Jews in the holy Qur'an, this is to show us that other prophets came with there books. But the Final message came with the holy Qur'an and final words that JESUS SAID
Jesus Said,
"When the Comforter has Come, the Spirit of Truth, he will Teach you All Things"
SOME CHRISTIANS ARGUE THAT THE "SPRIT OF TRUTH" IS THE HOLY SPIRIT. BUT THEY HAVE FORGET THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS BEING IN EXISTENCE EVEN B4 THE COMING OF JESUS.
SO HAS THE HOLY SPIRIT COME TO PASS? LOLX

And Thus the Trustworthy Spirit has Brought the Qur'an down upon your Heart O Muhammad, as a Detailed Explanation of All Things, and Indeed it is Mentioned in the Former Scriptures
61:6, Qur'an
[Remember] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O Children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of God to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me -
John 14:16, Gospel
[For] I will pray the [Creator], and He will give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever.
John 16:8 - 12, Gospel
And when he has come, he will expose the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgement. Of sin, because they do not believe in me; of righteousness, because I go to my [Creator], and you see me no more; of judgement, because the prince of this world is judged. I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
John 16:7, Gospel
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; it is expedient for you that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send him to you.
John 15:26, Gospel
[And] when the Comforter has come, whom I will send to you from the [Creator], [even] the Spirit of Truth, which proceeds from the [Creator], he will testify of me.
John 14:26, Gospel
[And] the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the [Creator] will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said to you.
John 16:13, Gospel
[And thus,] when he, the Spirit of Truth, has come, he will guide you into all truth, for he will not speak of himself; but whatever he will hear, [that] he will speak, and he will show you things to come."
53:2 - 5, Qur'an
[And thus,] your companion has not strayed, nor has he erred, nor does he speak from [his own] inclination. It is not but a revelation revealed, taught to him by One intense in strength -
26:192 - 197, Qur'an
Indeed, [the Qur'an] is the revelation of the Lord of the worlds. The Trustworthy Spirit has brought [the Qur'an] down upon your heart, [O Muhammad] - that you may be of the warners in a clear Arabic language. And indeed, it is [mentioned] in the Scriptures of former [peoples]. And has it not been a sign to them that it is recognized by the scholars of the Children of Israel?
12:111, Qur'an
[For] there was certainly in their stories a lesson for those of understanding. Never was [the Qur'an] a narration invented, but a confirmation of what was before it and a detailed explanation of all things and guidance and mercy for a people who believe.
13:43, Qur'an
[But] those who have disbelieved say, "You are not a messenger." Say, "Sufficient is God as Witness between me and you, and [the witness of] whoever has knowledge of the Scripture -
16:102, Qur'an
[For] the Holy Spirit has brought [the Qur'an] down from your Lord in truth to make firm those who believe and as guidance and good tidings to those in submission [to God]."

Before we divert to trashing the issues of the Bible, comment on all other issues I raised in the Quran first and not just the Messiah part.

Now before I discuss the Bible with you, since you believed that the Bible quotations you cited above are from the Bible you believe in. Then you must agree that you will agree to every other thing I show you in that same Bible, if you can't, then we have nothing to discuss.

As for the Quran, nowhere in the Quran was it stated that Holy Spirit revealed the Quran to Mohammed, it was a spirit who never introduced himself as being from God and neither did he claimed to be Angel Gabriel, his name being angel Gabriel was the product of imagination of Khadija, Aisha, Mohammed and you Muslims.

Show me anywhere in Quran where it was stated that the name of the Angel revealing the Quran to Mohammed was Gabriel.

And your explanation on why Christians appear in Quran is irrational, it's against what your belief in Quran is. Quran was written in heaven at the beginning of the world and the name Christians has been in it since then, meaning Allah has known a religion called Christianity since the beginning of the world and you Allah slave are trying to say Allah is wrong

dryakson:

Yeah the Qur'an confirmed Jesus was the messiah. But another messenger will come to continue with his good work.

The chief priests and Levites asked John the Baptist, "If you are not the Christ (Messiah), and not Elijah - are you THAT Prophet?" [Bible - John 1:20]
When the chief priests and Levites asked John the Baptist who he was, they asked him in a very strange way. First they questioned him as to whether or not he was the anticipated "Messiah" [Christ in Koine Greek]. He was not the "Messiah" that had hoped for. Next they asked if he was the prophet Elijah and again he tells them, "No." Now comes the really strange part. Finally, they asked him if he is "That Prophet?"
Are you Christ? - [No]
Are you Elijah? - [No]
Are you THAT Prophet? - [No]
What did they mean by "That Prophet?" We of course, know who the "Christ" is. After all, Christians should know that "Christ" is merely a shortened form of the Koine Greek word "christos," intended to mean the Hebrew word "Messiah."
The Jews of two thousand years ago were definitely looking for the Messiah, who it was foretold in their books, would come and lead them to victory over their oppressors and thus gain for them mastery over this world. They were much oppressed under Roman domination and even their own Jewish kings were seen as nothing more than puppets or agents for the disbelievers. Certainly, they would have been most happy to see someone come on the scene who would defeat their Roman masters and slave drivers.
Then the priests and Levites asked John the Baptist if he might be the prophet Elijah, returning back after hundreds of years being away. There was the notion amongst them that Elijah would come back. But again, John the Baptist is denying he is Elijah.
Then, who is he? They wonder at this man living out in the desert and forsaking wealth and luxury and fasting, avoiding the material attractions of life.
Again, they ask John the Baptist who he is. "Are you THAT Prophet?" And one more time he denies being "THAT Prophet," but then he does tell them about someone who will come after him soon, whom he claims he is not worthy to even unlace his shoes.
However, this does not answer the question, "Who were they expecting besides the Messiah?" Could it be they were looking for someone like Muhammad? (Could be)
Who is THAT Prophet? -
Pls learn more about prophet Muhammad peace and blessings of Allah be with him.
We already know about Jesus in our book


And I know u didn't believe Jesus is a messenger of God?

But you said the original Bible is lost, so from where did you get all these quotations you cited? You're funny. You think you can obey part of the Bible and discard others ? It's all-or-none! It's either you believe everything in the Bible from which you got all your quotations or you don't believe anything at all.

I have nothing much to tell you. Your Quran 10:94 has already told you that if you're in doubt about what is revealed to you, you should ask the Bible, what that means is that anything in the Quran that you can't find in the Bible is null and void.

Go and understand your Quran first, before you come and embarrass yourself here, because I will expose all your lies

dryakson:


U will never understand.
I want u to quote anywhere in the bible where Jesus said I'm the son of God so worship me.
Afterall the Bible has been translated and the original one has vanished.
Even at that quote the verse iam waiting.

Look at yourself again. I will never understand what, why can't you people use your reason like the Quran instructed you.

You believed that Quran has been in heaven since the beginning of the world, and in the same Quran I highlighted many places where the "word" Christians appear. Which implies that Allah had known Christians since the beginning of the world, and you're saying I won't understand. Make me understand na. May be you want to claim that you have more knowledge that Allah and the Quran.



كَذٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ
"Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242)

Use your reason. Don't be like a zombie. Quran has warned you further



إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ
"Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22)


Don't be the worst of living creatures.
Use your sense of reasoning.

You then say I should show in the Bible where Jesus
said He is the son of God.

I won't bother to show in the Bible since you believe that the original Bible is no longer available. I will rather show u in the Quran that you hold so dear as the incorruptible words of God.



Quran 2:28, 73 clearly states that Allah is the ONLY one that gives life and causes death and even brings the dead to life.

Quran 3:49 clearly states that Jesus gave life to a clay bird and the clay bird became a living bird

Quran 5:110 states that Jesus Raised the Dead, Gave life to clay bird, healed the blind, healed the lepers. It also stated that Jesus was given clear proof and Holy Spirit

Note that none of this wonders and Miracle was performed by Mohammed o(yet Muslims call him the greatest prophet and they claim that Jesus is not the son of God ) . These are miracles exclusive to God and Jesus.

Quran 3:45 clearly started that Jesus is the Word of God(Just like in John 1:1-5)

Quran 6:73 says Allah's word(not words, which implies Jesus as stated in Q3:45) is the Truth. Compare that one with John 14:6 where Jesus said he's the way the truth and the life

If you're getting confused or doubting these words in the Quran, Allah has instructed you in Quran 10:94 that if Mohammed and Muslims are in doubt of what is revealed to you in the Quran that you should ask the Christians who have been reading the Scriptures before you.

The same Quran clearly states that it was revealed to confirm what is in the scriptures and not to abolish the Bible (Quran 2:41, 89, 91, 97 etc). So the Bible remains the reference and standard for the Quran and the Muslims.

Now to salvation, Quran 46:9 states that Mohammed is NOT something original among the messengers, neither did he know what will be done to him, as he only followed what is revealed to him.

And Mohammed didn't even know the person that revealed the Quran to him, the so called Angel Gabriel never introduced himself to Mohammed as an angel from God, it was Mohammed's wife that 'thought ' the spirit appearing to Mohammed was Angel Gabriel.

Allah never spoke to Mohammed like he spoke to Abraham, Moses and Jesus in the Quran, and even when the angel of God went to talk to Mary in the Quran, the angel introduced himself as being from God.

From these, the identity of the spirit that recited Quran to Mohammed is unknown, hence our doubt, and the good thing is that the spirit said we can confirm the authenticity of the Quran by checking the Bible, so anything in the Quran that's not in the Bible remains null and void(Quran 10:94)


On the contrary, Jesus told his followers that he knew where he was going and that he was going to prepare a place for us because in His father's house, there are mansions there (John 14:2-3) and the Quran stated that Jesus cannot lie because he was given clear proof and Pure Spirit (Quran 5:110).

Quran 3:45 states that Jesus is the Messiah, distinguished in this world and hereafter

So you still want God to spell it out to you that Jesus is His Son? When he has clearly stated that Jesus did what only He(God) can do.



كَذٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ
"Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242)

Allah is telling all Muslims here that the verses in the Quran are clear enough and that you should use your reason. Please do.

Also,


Allah says

إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ
"Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22)

BabyApple:
There are so many misconception about Islam all over the world.. Please ask me anything you dont know about Islam because salvation is only through Islam not through being a Christian.

So you still want God to spell it out to you that Jesus is His Son? When He has clearly stated that Jesus did what only He(God) can do. ?


كَذٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ
"Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242)

Allah is telling all Muslims here that the verses in the Quran are clear enough and that you should use your reason. Please do.

Also,


Allah says

إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ
"Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22)


Don't be the worst of living creatures.

Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour today, before it is too late

Yusuf001:
U should go over what u have written and reason quietly this time around u alone I'm a room ... There u will have ur answer.

So you still want God to spell it out to you that Jesus is His Son? When He has clearly stated that Jesus did what only He(God) can do. ?


كَذٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ
"Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242)

Allah is telling all Muslims here that the verses in the Quran are clear enough and that you should use your reason. Please do.

Also,


Allah says

إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ
"Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22)


Don't be the worst of living creatures.

Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour today, before it is too late

Dafemich:
I want to ask you one question. Are those places he quoted not in the quran

Dont mind him. The problem with most of them is that they don't read the Quran, they only cram and recite it, so they don't understand and their imams that understand won't tell them the truth, the Imam only tell them the part that suit them, and instead of the followers to grab an English Quran to read so that they can understand,their laziness won't allow them or they may say Arabic is the only language Allah prefers and they don't understand the same Arabic.

Anyways, we will keep showing them the truth.

Quran to them is the ultimate word of Allah, that's why I've shown him what Allah says about Jesus, and Salvation

BabyApple:


Praise be to Allaah.


Thank you my brother i am happy you asked this question and insha Allah may God give me the ability to answer your question.

Like i have said in the previous thread. Lets take a look at the word Christian first. Where does the word come from.

The name Christian given by the Greeks or Romans, probably in reproach, to the followers of Jesus. It was first used at Antioch. The names by which the disciples were known among themselves were "brethren," "the faithful," "elect," "believers." But as distinguishing them from the multitude without, the name "Christian" came into use, and was universally accepted... This name Christian occurs but three times in the New Testament ( Acts 11:26 ; 26:28 ; 1 Peter 4:16 ). Look at the whole of old testament and tell me where the word Christian appear. It was after Jesus Christ Left that the word Christian came up.. This is to tell you that being a Christian is not a religion but just an identity of the followers of Jesus Christ and what is the Religion of Jesus Christ Himself. I swear by Allah. It is Islam Jesus didn't bring his own religion because he said in the bible in Mattew 5: 17::::: Think not that I have come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I have not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Even Jesus acknowledge that God has sent prophets before him and they all worship one God which he also has came with.. Jesus never mention anywhere in the bible that you should worship him.

Like i always say The Word '' Muslim '' In English mean '' '' Submittor '' in other words .. Those that submit to the will of the almighty God. Those that doesn't worship any other thing beside God and those that accept all the messenger of God and the message God sent them with.

So all the prophets mentioned in the bible are all submittors meaning Muslim and their religion is Islam.




Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, tells us that Jesus (upon whom be peace) was raised up to heaven just one time, in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): “But Allaah raised him up (with his body and soul) unto Himself…” [al-Nisa’ 4:158] and Allaah does not tell us that Jesus was sent back to this earth. So those who claim that Jesus was sent back to this earth have to bring us evidence and proof. If they cannot do that – and they will never be able to do it – then their argument has no basis.

You have just exposed yourself and the fact that we can't take the Quran serious, you Muslims claim that the Quran has been in existence since the beginning of the world, but there are many verses in the Quran where Christians are mentioned, which implies that Christians have been in known by Allah and have been mentioned in the Quran since the beginning of the world, and now you're saying Christians are not mentioned in the Bible. I've exposed your lies.

Allah SWT says:

إِنَّ الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا وَالَّذِينَ هَادُوا وَالنَّصٰرٰى وَالصّٰبِئِينَ مَنْ ءَامَنَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْأَاخِرِ وَعَمِلَ صٰلِحًا فَلَهُمْ أَجْرُهُمْ عِنْدَ رَبِّهِمْ وَلَا خَوْفٌ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلَا هُمْ يَحْزَنُونَ
"Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans [before Prophet Muhammad] - those [among them] who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 62)

Other places in the Quran where the Christians are mentioned Q2:62, 111,113, 120, 135, 140

Q3:67
Q5:14, 18, 51, 69, 82
Q9:30
Q22:17


So by trying to rubbish Christians, you're only rubbishing The Quran that you hold as the ultimate word of Allah

BabyApple:
There are so many misconception about Islam all over the world.. Please ask me anything you dont know about Islam because salvation is only through Islam not through being a Christian.

Really? Ok



Quran 2:28, 73 clearly states that Allah is the ONLY one that gives life and causes death and even brings the dead to life.

Quran 3:49 clearly states that Jesus gave life to a clay bird and the clay bird became a living bird

Quran 5:110 states that Jesus Raised the Dead, Gave life to clay bird, healed the blind, healed the lepers. It also stated that Jesus was given clear proof and Holy Spirit

Note that none of this wonders and Miracle was performed by Mohammed o(yet Muslims call him the greatest prophet and they claim that Jesus is not the son of God ) . These are miracles exclusive to God and Jesus.

Quran 3:45 clearly started that Jesus is the Word of God(Just like in John 1:1-5)

Quran 6:73 says Allah's word(not words, which implies Jesus as stated in Q3:45) is the Truth. Compare that one with John 14:6 where Jesus said he's the way the truth and the life

If you're getting confused or doubting these words in the Quran, Allah has instructed you in Quran 10:94 that if Mohammed and Muslims are in doubt of what is revealed to you in the Quran that you should ask the Christians who have been reading the Scriptures before you.

The same Quran clearly states that it was revealed to confirm what is in the scriptures and not to abolish the Bible (Quran 2:41, 89, 91, 97 etc). So the Bible remains the reference and standard for the Quran and the Muslims.


Now to salvation, Quran 46:9 states that Mohammed is NOT something original among the messengers, neither did he know what will be done to him, as he only followed what is revealed to him.


And Mohammed didn't even know the person that revealed the Quran to him, the so called Angel Gabriel never introduced himself to Mohammed as an angel from God, it was Mohammed's wife that 'thought ' the spirit appearing to Mohammed was Angel Gabriel.


Allah never spoke to Mohammed like he spoke to Abraham, Moses and Jesus in the Quran, and even when the angel of God went to talk to Mary in the Quran, the angel introduced himself as being from God.


From these, the identity of the spirit that recited Quran to Mohammed is unknown, hence our doubt, and the good thing is that the spirit said we can confirm the authenticity of the Quran by checking the Bible, so anything in the Quran that's not in the Bible remains null and void(Quran 10:94)


On the contrary, Jesus told his followers that he knew where he was going and that he was going to prepare a place for us because in His father's house, there are mansions there (John 14:2-3) and the Quran stated that Jesus cannot lie because he was given clear proof and Pure Spirit (Quran 5:110).


Quran 3:45 states that Jesus is the Messiah, distinguished in this world and hereafter

The decision is yours to make now. Choose today whom you will serve.
Shalom

Empiree:
because your posts are irrelevant

Hehehehehehehehehehehe. So you're saying the Quranic verses I quoted for you are not relevant!

The truth was shown to you and you ran away.

Anyways my points have been made.
When you're alone, in the corner of your room, on your bed when no one is with you, open your Quran, confirm those quotation I cited and make your decision.

The decision you make will determine how your afterlife would be.

But you have no excuse again, because the truth has been revealed to you and it has come to set you free but God has given you the free will to choose whether you want to be free or not, don't be like the Deaf and Dumb the Quran mentioned in Quran 8:22


إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ
"Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason."
(QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22)


Please use your reason. God loves you

Shalom

makdcash:
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

Forever and ever