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Imagine, so the bulk of the subsidized petrol meant to be consumed in Nigeria end up being smuggled into our neighbouring countries. |
Toks2008:It over makes sense. in fact, too much will not kill you! |
Horiolah:Prove what |
Horiolah:Why would I get angry, I can't fight for Jesus, He can for himself. |
Monsters everywhere |
Judybash93:I'm happy you yourself wrote "1000+ gods" that means you believe those ones are counterfeit and impostors, and you know there can't be a counterfeit if there is no original. God of the Bible is the Only God every other gods are idols and demons. Which one do you serve, God or idol/demon? |
Horiolah:Who or what do you worship? Don't be a coward. Be proud to tell us what you worship |
Horiolah:They worship Shiva, Vishnu, Devi etc. Just go and search for Shiva on Google and you will see one the gods Hindus are worshipping ! |
Horiolah:Yes. Mention any religion beside Christianity and Judaism and I will prove to you that the followers are worshipping demons and idols |
Nggs121:You may be right, because even the Bible clearly states it Psalm 14:1 |
donaldde2:Judaism and Christianity are the only religion worshipping the true God of the universe. Every other religion are worshipping demons in different guises. |
That has always been their tactic, distraction. |
It's actually looks more like it. |
It's getting more interesting |
hmm |
Alhaji Teckino, the man wey talk say "I geti big cassava" |
When someone says "I get big cassava" This is what they are talking about! |
Rashduct4luv:Go and argue with the Quran |
Rashduct4luv:What's the meaning of scriptures? if Allah calls Christians and Jews People of the Book, what Book is he talking about? Bible is derived from the Latin word Biblia which means Book. Taorah is Torah which is the first 5 books of the Bible, the Injeel is the Gospel, and Allah has told you to use your sense, so if all the books are in the Bible, you still expect Allah to spell it out to you that scriptures and Bible is the same? ﻛَﺬٰﻟِﻚَ ﻳُﺒَﻴِّﻦُ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻟَﻜُﻢْ ﺀَﺍﻳٰﺘِﻪِۦ ﻟَﻌَﻠَّﻜُﻢْ ﺗَﻌْﻘِﻠُﻮﻥَ "Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason(intellect)." (QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242) You're asking me who wrote the Bible, go and the Sura 10:94 and Sura 16:43 At least we have meaningful names as Titles of the chapters in the Bible . Unlike al Baqara that means The Cow, Al-Maaida: The Table, Al-Ana'am the Cattle and so on |
Yusuf001:Gimme the full quotation of Quran 2:42 too na, and that of Q10:94, Q16:43 and the other Quranic Quranic verses I quoted for you, you can't be acting wise, answering one question and ignoring others. I know you're pained because I've shown you all these things in the Quran. Don't go and ask your imams for advice cos they will confuse you the more, follow what the Quran tells you in Q10:94 and Q16:43. And by the way, which Translation or Version of the Quran did you quote above? It must have cost u a lot of stress trying to get that translation that gives you the meaning you wanted to see. I even like the fact that instead of "reason" that translation says you should use your common sense, please use it and follow the truth |
dryakson:But you've not answered my question on which Quran is original. if you choose not to answer, I assume that you have already seen realised that all what they told you about the Quran being from heaven and having one original copy somewhere is all lies. I pray you will allow the truth to set you free. The truth can only be gotten from the Bible. Allah SWT says: وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا مِنْ قَبْلِكَ إِلَّا رِجَالًا نُّوحِىٓ إِلَيْهِمْ ۚ فَسْئَلُوٓا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِنْ كُنْتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ "And We sent not before you except men to whom We revealed [Our message]. So ask the people of the message if you do not know." (QS. An-Nahl 16: Verse 43) Allah SWT says: فَإِنْ كُنْتَ فِى شَكٍّ مِّمَّآ أَنْزَلْنَآ إِلَيْكَ فَسْئَلِ الَّذِينَ يَقْرَءُونَ الْكِتٰبَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ ۚ لَقَدْ جَآءَكَ الْحَقُّ مِنْ رَّبِّكَ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ الْمُمْتَرِينَ "So if you are in doubt, about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." (QS. Yunus 10: Verse 94) ﻛَﺬٰﻟِﻚَ ﻳُﺒَﻴِّﻦُ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪُ ﻟَﻜُﻢْ ﺀَﺍﻳٰﺘِﻪِۦ ﻟَﻌَﻠَّﻜُﻢْ ﺗَﻌْﻘِﻠُﻮﻥَ "Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason." (QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242) ﺇِﻥَّ ﺷَﺮَّ ﺍﻟﺪَّﻭَﺍٓﺏِّ ﻋِﻨْﺪَ ﺍﻟﻠَّﻪِ ﺍﻟﺼُّﻢُّ ﺍﻟْﺒُﻜْﻢُ ﺍﻟَّﺬِﻳﻦَ ﻟَﺎ ﻳَﻌْﻘِﻠُﻮﻥَ "Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason." (QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22) Don't be the worst of living creatures. |
BabyApple:For now, yes! |
dryakson:And on the fact that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, does being the fastest growing religion mean that Islam is the true way? Don't you know that the world tend to embrace lies more than the truth? Matthew 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it." So don't gloat too much. |
dryakson:Let me ask you this Question, where is the Original Quran you claim was written more than 1000 years ago? Was it the one that was published in Heaven on paper with hard cover and descended from Heaven or the Quran that was originally written in pieces and fragments, and on palm branches, camels' ribs and shoulder blade? Or the one that was crammed by some reciters many of whom were killed in the Battle of Yamama by Musaylimah? Or the one that was later compiled after the death of Mohammed who was not alive to verify if what they later compiled in the Quran was the original words that the 'angel' revealed to him. How would anyone take serious the compilation by the people who were not the original recipient of the message and Mohammed was no longer alive to verify it? Also, when Mohammed himself was alive he mentioned four people whose memory of the Quran he said he trusted most: Abdullahi ibn Masud, Salim, Mu'dh bin Jabal and Ubai ibn Kab. All traditions agree that Ibn Masud was the most competent as he was always mentioned first by Mohammed. However, during the compilation of the Quran by Abu Bakr which was later continued by Uthman, the ones in Masud's memory which should be most reliable was ignored. (And you expect us to take the compilation seriously). After the compilation, the Quran was kept in custody of Hafsah. Several differences existed in the compilation kept with Hafsah and the ones in the memory of the four people mentioned above. So no one could verify whether the pieces collected were complete or authentic. Many sects including Shia developed because of these various versions. The disagreement led to some killing one another to defend their versions because of this Uthman gathered the records he could possibly gather, using his own discretion to determine which sayings should be accepted and which to reject and edit. He formed a four-man editorial board headed by Zaid Ibn Thabith to edit the Quran and come out with one copy. Uthman made sure he collected and destroyed all the other manuscripts that others had compiled and were reciting in Syria, Iraq and Armenia Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all other Quranic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. And this Quran that he ordered Zaid and his editorial board to edit eventually became the authorized version of the Quran kept, not because the other ones are not authentic but because he wanted only one codex to remain. Among the codices destroyed were Ibn Mas'ud 's and Ubay ibn Ka'b 's codex, none of which exist today. Sahih Bukhari Vol 6 Book 60 Hadith 484: Narrated By Anas bin Malik The Prophet said to Ubai, "Allah has ordered me recite Qur'an to you." Ubai asked, "Did Allah mention me by name to you?" The Prophet said, "Allah has mentioned your name to me." On that Ubai started weeping. (The sub-narrator) Qatada added: I have been informed that the Prophet recited: 'Those who disbelieve among the people of the Scripture,"... to Ubai. You can imagine? And this guy's recitation was not later honoured and included, and you expect us to believe that the current Quran is complete? I can go on and on... Now the question is when you said the original Quran is preserved, which one are you referring to? |
dryakson:You may also read this book to know more about The Quran, The Bible and Salvation "Anatomy of the Qur'an" by G.J.O. Moshay |
BabyApple:You're welcome. You may also read this book to know more about The Quran, The Bible and Salvation "Anatomy of the Qur'an" by G.J.O. Moshay |
dryakson:Remain blessed too brother. cheers. Just try and read to find out the truth, read the Quran with the intent to learn, not what your imam tells you, and you will find the truth there. After all Quran had already told you to use your own reason not the reason your Imams give you. Remain blessed |
dryakson:Before we divert to trashing the issues of the Bible, comment on all other issues I raised in the Quran first and not just the Messiah part. Now before I discuss the Bible with you, since you believed that the Bible quotations you cited above are from the Bible you believe in. Then you must agree that you will agree to every other thing I show you in that same Bible, if you can't, then we have nothing to discuss. As for the Quran, nowhere in the Quran was it stated that Holy Spirit revealed the Quran to Mohammed, it was a spirit who never introduced himself as being from God and neither did he claimed to be Angel Gabriel, his name being angel Gabriel was the product of imagination of Khadija, Aisha, Mohammed and you Muslims. Show me anywhere in Quran where it was stated that the name of the Angel revealing the Quran to Mohammed was Gabriel. And your explanation on why Christians appear in Quran is irrational, it's against what your belief in Quran is. Quran was written in heaven at the beginning of the world and the name Christians has been in it since then, meaning Allah has known a religion called Christianity since the beginning of the world and you Allah slave are trying to say Allah is wrong |
dryakson:But you said the original Bible is lost, so from where did you get all these quotations you cited? You're funny. You think you can obey part of the Bible and discard others ? It's all-or-none! It's either you believe everything in the Bible from which you got all your quotations or you don't believe anything at all. I have nothing much to tell you. Your Quran 10:94 has already told you that if you're in doubt about what is revealed to you, you should ask the Bible, what that means is that anything in the Quran that you can't find in the Bible is null and void. Go and understand your Quran first, before you come and embarrass yourself here, because I will expose all your lies |
dryakson:Look at yourself again. I will never understand what, why can't you people use your reason like the Quran instructed you. You believed that Quran has been in heaven since the beginning of the world, and in the same Quran I highlighted many places where the "word" Christians appear. Which implies that Allah had known Christians since the beginning of the world, and you're saying I won't understand. Make me understand na. May be you want to claim that you have more knowledge that Allah and the Quran. كَذٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ "Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason." (QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242) Use your reason. Don't be like a zombie. Quran has warned you further إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ "Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason." (QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22) Don't be the worst of living creatures. Use your sense of reasoning. You then say I should show in the Bible where Jesus said He is the son of God. I won't bother to show in the Bible since you believe that the original Bible is no longer available. I will rather show u in the Quran that you hold so dear as the incorruptible words of God. Quran 2:28, 73 clearly states that Allah is the ONLY one that gives life and causes death and even brings the dead to life. Quran 3:49 clearly states that Jesus gave life to a clay bird and the clay bird became a living bird Quran 5:110 states that Jesus Raised the Dead, Gave life to clay bird, healed the blind, healed the lepers. It also stated that Jesus was given clear proof and Holy Spirit Note that none of this wonders and Miracle was performed by Mohammed o(yet Muslims call him the greatest prophet and they claim that Jesus is not the son of God ) . These are miracles exclusive to God and Jesus. Quran 3:45 clearly started that Jesus is the Word of God(Just like in John 1:1-5) Quran 6:73 says Allah's word(not words, which implies Jesus as stated in Q3:45) is the Truth. Compare that one with John 14:6 where Jesus said he's the way the truth and the life If you're getting confused or doubting these words in the Quran, Allah has instructed you in Quran 10:94 that if Mohammed and Muslims are in doubt of what is revealed to you in the Quran that you should ask the Christians who have been reading the Scriptures before you. The same Quran clearly states that it was revealed to confirm what is in the scriptures and not to abolish the Bible (Quran 2:41, 89, 91, 97 etc). So the Bible remains the reference and standard for the Quran and the Muslims. Now to salvation, Quran 46:9 states that Mohammed is NOT something original among the messengers, neither did he know what will be done to him, as he only followed what is revealed to him. And Mohammed didn't even know the person that revealed the Quran to him, the so called Angel Gabriel never introduced himself to Mohammed as an angel from God, it was Mohammed's wife that 'thought ' the spirit appearing to Mohammed was Angel Gabriel. Allah never spoke to Mohammed like he spoke to Abraham, Moses and Jesus in the Quran, and even when the angel of God went to talk to Mary in the Quran, the angel introduced himself as being from God. From these, the identity of the spirit that recited Quran to Mohammed is unknown, hence our doubt, and the good thing is that the spirit said we can confirm the authenticity of the Quran by checking the Bible, so anything in the Quran that's not in the Bible remains null and void(Quran 10:94) On the contrary, Jesus told his followers that he knew where he was going and that he was going to prepare a place for us because in His father's house, there are mansions there (John 14:2-3) and the Quran stated that Jesus cannot lie because he was given clear proof and Pure Spirit (Quran 5:110). Quran 3:45 states that Jesus is the Messiah, distinguished in this world and hereafter So you still want God to spell it out to you that Jesus is His Son? When he has clearly stated that Jesus did what only He(God) can do. كَذٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ "Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason." (QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242) Allah is telling all Muslims here that the verses in the Quran are clear enough and that you should use your reason. Please do. Also, Allah says إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ "Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason." (QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22) |
BabyApple:So you still want God to spell it out to you that Jesus is His Son? When He has clearly stated that Jesus did what only He(God) can do. ? كَذٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ "Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason." (QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242) Allah is telling all Muslims here that the verses in the Quran are clear enough and that you should use your reason. Please do. Also, Allah says إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ "Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason." (QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22) Don't be the worst of living creatures. Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour today, before it is too late |
Yusuf001:So you still want God to spell it out to you that Jesus is His Son? When He has clearly stated that Jesus did what only He(God) can do. ? كَذٰلِكَ يُبَيِّنُ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ ءَايٰتِهِۦ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَعْقِلُونَ "Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you might use reason." (QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 242) Allah is telling all Muslims here that the verses in the Quran are clear enough and that you should use your reason. Please do. Also, Allah says إِنَّ شَرَّ الدَّوَآبِّ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ الصُّمُّ الْبُكْمُ الَّذِينَ لَا يَعْقِلُونَ "Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason." (QS. Al-Anfaal 8: Verse 22) Don't be the worst of living creatures. Accept Jesus as your Lord and Saviour today, before it is too late |