Janosky:

Acts 15:29
Abstain from blood, from sexual immorality".

1 John 5:3
This is what the love of God means, that we obey His commandments, and yet his commandments are not burdensome."

Bros, did your own Bible tell you obedience to God's commandments is "extremism"?

You neglect other commandments but choose to obey the twisted ones that allow you send people to their early graves

Leviticus 3:17
This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live: [b]You must not eat any fat or any blood.’”

The ordinance was to avoid eating fat or blood. You chose to obey one law and to reject the other.

You refuse blood transfusion but eat animal fat yet you claim you’re obeying God’s law.


The blood of animal commanded not to be eaten is the animal that has been killed and “the idea is that by ingesting it, the individual has destroyed the life force by dissipation. Instead, the life is to be offered back to God where it came.”

That was why the blood of Abel’s blood cried from the ground because he was dead already like you quoted in genesis 4:10.

The LORD said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground.


Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
Deuteronomy 12:16-25.
16. ye shall not eat the blood; ye shall pour it upon the earth as water
—The prohibition against eating or drinking blood as an unnatural custom accompanied the announcement of the divine grant of animal flesh for food (Ge 9:4), and the prohibition was repeatedly renewed by Moses with reference to the great objects of the law (Le 17:12), the prevention of idolatry, and the consecration of the sacrificial blood to God. In regard, however, to the blood of animals slain for food, it might be shed without ceremony and poured on the ground as a common thing like water—only for the sake of decency, as well as for preventing all risk of idolatry, it was to be covered over with earth (Le 17:13), in opposition to the practice of heathen sportsmen, who left it exposed as an offering to the god of the chase.


So, your sect deliberately twisted the law of God and in so doing you have sent many into their early graves. So yes, you guys are extremist. God never said humans should not be transfused with the blood of fellow humans. God can see into the future so He could have known that a time would come when blood transfusion would be a form of treatment yet He never spoke against it.




The blood of those who got injured in battles and had their blood spilled on the ground, don’t cry as long as the person is still alive

In blood transfusion, the person whose blood you’re refusing is not killed or dead so the analogy is to the same.

* Bros, What is life-saving about a medical procedure that kills 24% of recipient patients within 12 months?

* Bros, what is life saving about a medical procedure that kills 30% of recipient patients within 2 years & 50% within 10 years?

That’s a lie. Stop spreading falsehoods.

What is life saving about a medical procedure that suppresses your immunity & increases your vulnerability to other life threatening diseases?

Which immunity is it suppressing? Which infection? Stop talking ignorantly. Blood are screened for viral infections and other infections before they are transfused to others

achorladey:


The moment they see where God said word for word that they should do blood fractions transfusion is the moment they will answer your question

Lool!

They are still searching for it

keviziii333:

Also don't forget their refusal of military conscription, which is a threat to a country like Russia in wartime.

That means they are disobeying the order of authority of that country which is clearly against the law of the New Testament that MaxInDHouse say that they obey:

Romans 13:1-7
Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. Therefore whoever resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same

MaxInDHouse:
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The bolded belongs to the nation of Israel but it's no more an order for those under the new covenant! Jeremiah 31:34

The Jeremiah 31:34 u quoted has nothing to do with what you’re saying

The fat is poured on the fire so that the smoke will serve as the sign that the sacrifice has been accepted as the smoke keep ascending high up to heaven, so if the Israelites are eaters of the fat then it will become difficult for them to let go of this part. Through too much consumption of fat also has its side effects but since it's not included in the order given to our brothers who entered into the new covenant we know that Jehovah has put an end to that injunction!

So only 4 laws of all the laws are what you follow in the new covenant?

You don’t follow the 10 commandments?

You steal, covet your neighbor, don’t honor your parents etc?

Please read the new injunction that comes along with the New Covenant:


For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29

Do you notice that the blood is no more mentioned along with fat?
Well that's how JWs distinguish between what Jehovah wants us to continue keeping as order and those that has become obsolete.

May you have PEACE!

It’s not about reading alone, it’s about reading to understand.

Read from the beginning and tell us why the new law was given and relate it to blood of animals as mentioned in Deuteronomy and Leviticus and see for yourself and your sect dubiously mislead millions of people.




Leviticus 3:17
This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live: You must not eat any fat or any blood.’”

The ordinance was to avoid eating fat or blood. You chose to obey one law and to reject the other.

You refuse blood transfusion but eat animal fat yet you claim you’re obeying God’s law.


The blood of animal commanded not to be eaten is the animal that has been killed and “the idea is that by ingesting it, the individual has destroyed the life force by dissipation. Instead, the life is to be offered back to God where it came.”

That was why the blood of Abel’s blood cried from the ground because he was dead already like you quoted in genesis 4:10.

The LORD said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground.


Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
Deuteronomy 12:16-25.
16. ye shall not eat the blood; ye shall pour it upon the earth as water
—The prohibition against eating or drinking blood as an unnatural custom accompanied the announcement of the divine grant of animal flesh for food (Ge 9:4), and the prohibition was repeatedly renewed by Moses with reference to the great objects of the law (Le 17:12), the prevention of idolatry, and the consecration of the sacrificial blood to God. In regard, however, to the blood of animals slain for food, it might be shed without ceremony and poured on the ground as a common thing like water—only for the sake of decency, as well as for preventing all risk of idolatry, it was to be covered over with earth (Le 17:13), in opposition to the practice of heathen sportsmen, who left it exposed as an offering to the god of the chase.


So, your sect deliberately twisted the law of God and in so doing you have sent many into their early graves. So yes, you guys are extremist. God never said humans should not be transfused with the blood of fellow humans. God can see into the future so He could have known that a time would come when blood transfusion would be a form of treatment yet He never spoke against it.




The blood of those who got injured in battles and had their blood spilled on the ground, don’t cry as long as the person is still alive

In blood transfusion, the person whose blood you’re refusing is not killed or dead so the analogy is not the same.

TamyFire:


What is the reason of eating or drinking? Is it not to provide nutrients. God’s word says “abstain from blood”. At the time this instruction was given, the only known means of blood intake was either eating or drinking. But over the centuries oral and parentereal applications of blood were introduced. If you are ill and unable to eat, can’t the nutrients be intravenously administered to you?
In like manner, intravenously administering/transfusion blood to an individual is same as blood consumption.

With regards to matter of life and death as it pertains to blood transfusions. Let’s look at this example of the first century;

Emperor Nero has arrested a family of father, mother and child, and they are led before a great crowd of people in the theatre. In the middle of the theatre is an altar with a burning fire, and beside the fire is a censer with incense. The ultimatum to the father is: «Go to the altar and put some incense on the fire, thus sacrificing to the genius of the emperor, and your whole family will be released. If not, all of you will be killed.
Shall the father compromise his faith in order to save the life of himself and his family, including his child?
Many Christians refused to do just that and were consequently killed.

It is clear, there is no compromise when it comes to God’s law on the matters highlighted in Acts 15:21.

See the history of blood transfusion below and what the Bible says on blood.

Leviticus 3:17
This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live: You must not eat any fat or any blood.’”

The ordinance was to avoid eating fat or blood. You chose to obey one law and to reject the other.

You refuse blood transfusion but eat animal fat yet you claim you’re obeying God’s law.


The blood of animal commanded not to be eaten is the animal that has been killed and “the idea is that by ingesting it, the individual has destroyed the life force by dissipation. Instead, the life is to be offered back to God where it came.”

That was why the blood of Abel’s blood cried from the ground because he was dead already like you quoted in genesis 4:10.

The LORD said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground.


Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
Deuteronomy 12:16-25.
16. ye shall not eat the blood; ye shall pour it upon the earth as water
—The prohibition against eating or drinking blood as an unnatural custom accompanied the announcement of the divine grant of animal flesh for food (Ge 9:4), and the prohibition was repeatedly renewed by Moses with reference to the great objects of the law (Le 17:12), the prevention of idolatry, and the consecration of the sacrificial blood to God. In regard, however, to the blood of animals slain for food, it might be shed without ceremony and poured on the ground as a common thing like water—only for the sake of decency, as well as for preventing all risk of idolatry, it was to be covered over with earth (Le 17:13), in opposition to the practice of heathen sportsmen, who left it exposed as an offering to the god of the chase.


So, your sect deliberately twisted the law of God and in so doing you have sent many into their early graves. So yes, you guys are extremist. God never said humans should not be transfused with the blood of fellow humans. God can see into the future so He could have known that a time would come when blood transfusion would be a form of treatment yet He never spoke against it.




The blood of those who got injured in battles and had their blood spilled on the ground, don’t cry as long as the person is still alive

In blood transfusion, the person whose blood you’re refusing is not killed or dead so the analogy is not the same.

FengChui:


When you swallow drugs or get injected with the components of the tablet you swallowed, will you get the same result or not? When a sick person refuses to eat, are the nutrients required for bodily existence not passed to the body via infusion?
Leviticus 3:17 stated categorically that we should not eat blood AT ALL. It is not negotiable, whether you eat it orally or via injection, it is not acceptable.

Leviticus 3:17
This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live: You must not eat any fat or any blood.’”

The ordinance was to avoid eating fat or blood. You chose to obey one law and to reject the other.

You refuse blood transfusion but eat animal fat yet you claim you’re obeying God’s law.

achorladey:


I can only hope you get a response. As in word for word as you place that question

For where? Where will they see it?

advanceDNA:


You are very funny...what did I ask...what are u Wrttting??
Where in all this write up did it show that there was monetary system at the time of Moses..

Read it again

loliapoopy2013:


Is blood transfusion the reason why Russian government is persecuting the witnesses? Have you gone round our hospitals to see the rate of maternal and infant mortality because of lack of simple things like no doc, water, light, medicine and quack nurses etc. Is blood transfusion the cure to cancer, malaria, typhoid and other treatable illments that we are clueless about killing us daily? Is blood transfusions the hardship, violent crime, kidnapping, insecurities taking People's life daily? My bros, God is the source of life and, and will restore life back to the person who looses it due to blood issues. Medicals have advanced. Complicated surgeries are done even without blood in advanced countries. Our medicine should advance too.

Ok

advanceDNA:


Aren’t you the one that said the Israelites had money when they received the law of tithing.. yet God told them to tithe farm produce..

The scriptures did, I didn’t write Deuteronomy.


Go and read Deuteronomy 14:22-29


22 “You shall tithe all the yield of your seed that comes from the field year by year. 23 And before the Lord your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, cand the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. 24 And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, when the Lord your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the Lord your God chooses, to set his name there, 25 then you shall turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and go to the place that the Lord your God chooses 26 and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household. 27 And you shall not neglect fthe Levite who is within your towns, for ghe has no portion or inheritance with you.
28 At the end of every three years you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in the same year and lay it up within your towns. 29 And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do.

Dtruthspeaker:


A true believer of God, knows Gods Words and does not require citations.

Jesus always say “Have you not read/heard”

If you’re like Jesus, you would give reference to your claims. But you can’t because you’re fabricating things to be eating people’s money when God never commanded such

Where you not the one who said here

I did, if you think I was wrong, prove me wrong from the scriptures

aribisala0:


You are correct but many more have died from mainstream or orthodox Christianity and Islam
Let us not forget that the catholic church endorsed the slave trade
We have heard of forced abortions and sterilizations etc not not mention pedophilia

The problem is when people say things such as what you said they are reluctant to look at their own sect or religion objectively

Unfortunately unlike Jehovah witness that claim they are obeying the law of God, those that promote forced abortions and other evil don’t quote the scriptures to back up their delusions.

Eating or drinking blood of animals is not the same as blood transfusion.

God never spoke against blood transfusion!

rottennaija:


They followers are unduly influenced. There are no different from followers of Islam extremist who refused to read that violence is not the way. It's undue influence by the religious leaders that makes the followers behave the way they do. The catch is, while the leaders will claim the followers will make their own decision, if a follower decides to accept blood, the follower is punished.

You’re right. May God help us

peacefulworld01:

What make you feel Jehovah witnesses are terrorists.

I never made the claim that JEW are terrorist, stop being mischievous.

Don't you know there are bloodless surgery operations

Go and read about the commonest cause of maternal death in sub Saharan Africa

don't u even know that blood transfusion isn't completely safe.

Mention one thing that is completely safe in this world!

fkj950ax:


This is not in the Bible. Let's stop creating fences for true believers to keep jumping.
And constant demand to quote bible verse is a form of blackmail too.
It is good to be well versed in scripture, but using it as 'evidence' is somehow sha

The scriptures is meant to guide us, so if you’re practicing what is not written there in, you’ve deviated.

Regie2bless:
we dont take blood or eat it as food because is a thing detestable by Jehovah God, Jehovah witnesses are opened to other medical advances, but not taking of blood.

Where did God say that you shouldn’t refuse blood transfusion?

Not drinking blood of animals is not the same as not receiving blood transfusion

Kobojunkie:
I dont believe that part was meant as a figure of speech at all.

Ok

ejimatic:
. I disagree with your opinion about witnesses on blood transfusion .JWs respect lives and have respect for sactity of life as required from the scripture Everybody whether JW or not will decide on what to believe and how to exercise his belief and the form of treatment desired .I have found out that JWS don't scripturally accept blood transfusion but accept various non blood treatments Many of these have been accepted by medical doctors all over the world as the best forms of treatment.Adsitionally lack of blood transfusion is not a major kiiler in medicine but complication in ones treatment. Modern medicine has even see a lot dangers in blood transfusion and prefers alternative to blood transfusion If JWs do not accept blood transfusion on a scriptural ground it does not make them extremists.In my opinion their belief must be respected as long as they are not forcing anybody to do so.

Go and find out the commonest cause of maternal death in subsaharan Africa

Give me the scriptural reference where God said you shouldn’t be transfused with blood.

advanceDNA:


So, where did the Israelites get the money they were spending in the wilderness and when they arrived at the promised land...?

Which money did they spend?

Regie2bless:
we dont take blood or eat it as food because is a thing detestable by Jehovah God, Jehovah witnesses are opened to other medical advances, but not taking of blood.

Where in the scriptures did Jehovah say you should not receive blood transfusion?

advanceDNA:



U sound like those that will literally turn the other cheek when someone hit you...shebi Jesus said so..

Jesus spoke many times in parables, some of those things were figurative like removing your eyes if it makes you sin

Trustedpronet:


Kindly Google about those that was infected with dangerous diseases through blood transfusion. The world is confuse that they can't deferentiat between good and evil.

Google those that have choked and died while eating, does that mean we should stop eating?

Google those that have died from drug reactions does that mean we should stop taking drugs?

Google those that have died from natural disaster, does that mean we should all run away from the earth?

Few have died from infections and complications of blood transfusion compared to millions that have been saved with transfusion of blood and blood products.

Kobojunkie:
All this na waste or time! Read Deuteronomy 30 vs 18 - 20 and you realize that God Himself did not include you , a Gentile, as a beneficiary of His Old Covenant Law which is instead an agreement between God and those with the blood of Jacob coursing through their veins, of which you are not. .

Ok

maximunimpact:


Denying someone right to life because of a twisted bible verse is extremism, its not different from people who chose to die for 70 virgins

You’re right. But you can only blame the followers who have refused to read the scriptures by themselves and free themselves from the lies of their deceptive leaders

Many people have died from the extremist’s view of Jehovah witness that their members should not receive blood transfusion because of the twisted Bible verse that children of God should not drink the blood of animals like the occultists do.

How does drinking animal blood and receiving blood transfusion to save one’s life be interpreted as the same?

Jehovah witness should stop this extremism and allow people live.


Blood loss is the number killer of women during childbirth in this part of the world, and to reduce or stop death from blood loss is by blood transfusion which the teachings of JW stand against and this has been leading many into early grave.

Dtruthspeaker:


The children of Disobedience must always ensure that every soul breaks God's Laws

Yes you are right, like the so called men of God have never taught their followers that God commanded them to eat their tithes, change it to money and use it to buy whatever they like and to also use it to help those in need. The children of disobedience, the wolf in sheep clothing have been lying to Christians for years to steal their hard earn money from them. They eat the sheep rather than protect them

and have you have seen "tithe was never meant to be money" and I have seen that God hates money!

A true believer should always show scriptural evidences to back up his claims and not resort into emotional blackmail.

Show us where God commanded that tithes should be paid with money in the scriptures and show us who paid tithes with money in the scriptures.
Shalom

salt1:


If the Church organizes the sharing to the less privileged as it was done in the early Church, doesn't it cover that? Must the giving be done at individual level for it to be valid?

What the early church shared was not tithes

Dtruthspeaker:


Did I not acknowledge it and only raised up that in that very statement was another Commandment that you need to comply with?



This is not in issue and I was not contesting it, but I know that with God every detail and instruction is relevant hence why I pointed out that there was another instruction in there which I see people do not have in mind. That's all.



I refrained from answering you because you are supposed to know what I know seeing you knew enough to raise this scripture, therefore, I can presume that you are a Christian.

For ye ought to have known that it is Written "The LORD IS NEAR to all who call on Him, to All who call out to Him in truth. Psalm 145:18.

“God INHABITS the Praises of His People” Psalm 22:3

And many other pointers!



This is a very very long answer but the quickest answer is that I have always held on to the Word of God consistently, even though I processed through Methodist, Catholic RCCG, then Catholic
again and now I do not go to any church.

But, I saw that God accepted my tithes being paid in there.

I also once gave out my tithe to the poor but I immediately knew that it was for it was no longer well with me and I knew that it was because of the tithe which was the only wrong I knew I had done.

Therefore, I knew also because when I returned, my usual wellness immediately returned and I have not waivered ever since.

Thank you.

But remember tithe was never meant to be money. There was money when the law was given and that’s why God said if the place he has chosen is far and u can’t carry the crops and animals there, then change them to money and use the money to buy whatever u want as soon as u get to where God has chosen.


Why did everyone go against God’s law and monetized tithe?

phemmyfour:
Inadequate knowledge

There were three different tithes, each with a different definition, different purpose, and with different instructions.

Leviticus 27:30-33, Numbers 18: The First Tithe - a tenth of crops and animals and commanded to take the tithe to the Levites. This one is sometimes called The Lord's Tithe. It is the ONLY one of the three tithes that God claimed was His. This was a yearly tithe.

I’m happy that you mentioned Levictus 27:30-33

30 “Every tithe of the land, whether of the seed of the land or of the fruit of the trees, is the Lord’s; it is holy to the Lord. 31 If a man wishes to redeem some of his tithe, he shall add a fifth to it. 32 And every tithe of herds and flocks, every tenth animal of all that pass under the herdsman’s staff, shall be holy to the Lord. 33 One shall not differentiate between good or bad, neither shall he make a substitute for it; and if he does substitute for it, then both it and the substitute shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.”

Where was money mentioned here?

Where were non farmers or herders asked to pay tithes here?

Deuteronomy 14:22-27: The Second Tithe aka The Festival Tithe - a tenth of crops, plus add to that the firstborn animals, and take for the yearly feast.

Crops and animals again.

So if y accept that tithes can be paid as feasts, why are your pastors not following that law today ?

Why are they not saying that we should come and feast with our tithes?

Deuteronomy 14:28-29: The Third Tithe aka The Three-Year Tithe aka The Poor Tithe - a tenth of crops, kept at home, and invite the Levites, widows, orphans, stranger to EAT

So why are your pastors not teaching you this type of tithe? Why do they tell you that you can’t help people from the tithe, that u should help from the remaining 90%

You only gave scriptures that support the third type of Tithe as if first and second type doesn't exist. Half knowledge will only make you look like a folly

No I didn’t. Deuteronomy 14 talked about the 3

Verse 23says you can eat your tithe


Verse 27 says you can give the Levites from it


Verse 29 says u can help the needy with it

Shalom

DWJOBScom:


How much is this tithe that people will debate over it from now to everlasting yet the poor are still there.

Tithe is not money. Tithe was never money

Goldbw122:
Tithe is different from helping hand..

Go and read Deuteronomy 14:22-29


22 “You shall tithe all the yield of your seed that comes from the field year by year. 23 And before the Lord your God, in the place that he will choose, to make his name dwell there, you shall eat the tithe of your grain, of your wine, and of your oil, cand the firstborn of your herd and flock, that you may learn to fear the Lord your God always. 24 And if the way is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, when the Lord your God blesses you, because the place is too far from you, which the Lord your God chooses, to set his name there, 25 then you shall turn it into money and bind up the money in your hand and go to the place that the Lord your God chooses 26 and spend the money for whatever you desire—oxen or sheep or wine or strong drink, whatever your appetite craves. And you shall eat there before the Lord your God and rejoice, you and your household. 27 And you shall not neglect fthe Levite who is within your towns, for ghe has no portion or inheritance with you.
28 At the end of every three years you shall bring out all the tithe of your produce in the same year and lay it up within your towns. 29 And the Levite, because he has no portion or inheritance with you, and the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow, who are within your towns, shall come and eat and be filled, that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands that you do.

Dtruthspeaker:


Wherein have I deceived in raising up The Very Words of The Lord as ye yourself have seen with thine own eyes?

You didn’t give us the full scripture, I gave you the full one in Deuteronomy 14:22-29 u saw it and acted as if you didn’t.

You saw that God said you can eat your tithe, use it to help people and that tithe is not money but u acted as if you didn’t see it instead u dwelt on the fact that tithe should be paid where God has chosen. I asked u to tel me where God has chosen, instead of you to give a scriptural reference you started saying a different thing then I asked you to tell me where God as chosen for you where u pay your tithe as commanded by God in Deuteronomy but u didn’t answer.

Tell us where u pay your tithe as commanded by God let’s come and learn from you since you’re the only one that you know where God has chosen for tithes to be paid