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Dtruthspeaker:
Did I not acknowledge it and only raised up that in that very statement was another Commandment that you need to comply with?



This is not in issue and I was not contesting it, but I know that with God every detail and instruction is relevant hence why I pointed out that there was another instruction in there which I see people do not have in mind. That's all.



I refrained from answering you because you are supposed to know what I know seeing you knew enough to raise this scripture, therefore, I can presume that you are a Christian.

For ye ought to have known that it is Written "The LORD IS NEAR to all who call on Him, to All who call out to Him in truth. Psalm 145:18.

“God INHABITS the Praises of His People” Psalm 22:3

And many other pointers!



This is a very very long answer but the quickest answer is that I have always held on to the Word of God consistently, even though I processed through Methodist, Catholic RCCG, then Catholic
again and now I do not go to any church.

But, I saw that God accepted my tithes being paid in there.

I also once gave out my tithe to the poor but I immediately knew that it was for it was no longer well with me and I knew that it was because of the tithe which was the only wrong I knew I had done.

Therefore, I knew also because when I returned, my usual wellness immediately returned and I have not waivered ever since.

phemmyfour:
Inadequate knowledge

There were three different tithes, each with a different definition, different purpose, and with different instructions.

Leviticus 27:30-33, Numbers 18: The First Tithe - a tenth of crops and animals and commanded to take the tithe to the Levites. This one is sometimes called The Lord's Tithe. It is the ONLY one of the three tithes that God claimed was His. This was a yearly tithe.

Deuteronomy 14:22-27: The Second Tithe aka The Festival Tithe - a tenth of crops, plus add to that the firstborn animals, and take for the yearly feast.

Deuteronomy 14:28-29: The Third Tithe aka The Three-Year Tithe aka The Poor Tithe - a tenth of crops, kept at home, and invite the Levites, widows, orphans, stranger to EAT

You only gave scriptures that support the third type of Tithe as if first and second type doesn't exist. Half knowledge will only make you look like a folly

DWJOBScom:
How much is this tithe that people will debate over it from now to everlasting yet the poor are still there.

Goldbw122:
Tithe is different from helping hand..

Dtruthspeaker:
Wherein have I deceived in raising up The Very Words of The Lord as ye yourself have seen with thine own eyes?

denitro:
We have tithes and offerings.
Tithes - 10% of your interest annually, which is to be paid to the church and such will be kept in the Lord's storehouse.
The purpose of tithes is to help move the work of God.
Usage is specific - the building of church building, ecclesiastic duties - clerical budget, travel, and unit allocations.

Offerings - These are voluntary payments made to the church different from tithes.
The purpose of the offering is to help the poor and the needy in the church.
Usage is specific - Taking care of the widow and orphans, poor and the needy in the church, and anyone who is in need.

WHY you cannot give your tithe to those in need, is simple tithes is not for that purpose.
Can I give my offering to those in need? No, the reason why is because once someone is in need, it is a teaching moment and the
church uses such opportunity to counsel and provide short and long-term plans to help that person become self-reliant. And the offering belongs to God and God alone reserves the right to decide how his funds are disbursed, we don't have any right to disburse it ourselves.
I don't want to give my tithe to my pastor, he uses it for his own personal gain, what should I do?
The purpose of paying tithe is to solely build the faith of the person paying, God doesn't need our money and is happy
when we obey laws and build our trust in Him, the greater sin will be on the pastor and no blessing promised the faithful tithe payer will be lost.
Laws and commandments, in the end, will preserve us, and doing our best to strive to keep those laws will bless those who keep
those laws

And moreover, I would desire that ye should consider on the blessed and happy state of those that keep the commandments of God.
For behold, they are blessed in all things, both temporal and spiritual; and if they hold out faithful to the end they are received into heaven, that thereby they may dwell with God in a state of never-ending happiness. O remember, remember that these things are true;
for the Lord God hath spoken it.

Dreamhighnow:
Tithe is meant for the gospel. Nothing else. If you now like, give 80 percent to beggars. Na u know

Cnach:
Thank u bro at least it a Christian to Christian exchange of knowledge.
Ehe, what u said which the base should be from verse 29 is supporting verse 28 which has a clause of "at the end of every 3years"
It doesn't mean u shouldn't pay tithe every other years in a usual manner of taking it to the levites but at the end of these three years it is going to be different and that's when it is supported u give it to any one in need and also the men of God won't be in exception.
The one wey dey vesi me na even verse 23b which is not obtainable in any way. We suppose dey enjoy for church every Sunday, in short anybody who don't have food in his house suppose use church get hope but e no dey work na only talking and talking and talking everytime

lamentor78:
Don't twist the Bible , Tithe is paid into the house of God, read your Bible, Malachi 3:10,
If you want to help the poor Psalms 41:1-3 ,there are blessings and God promises attached to it, if you pay your tithe in the House of God there are blessings and God promises attached to it.

So don't twist the Bible, you can choose to be helping the poor or paying your tithe

Mystery9:
You are free to give the poor or needy ones whatever you want. But Tithe the 10% is meant for the church. Why is this tin so hard to understand.

pocohantas:
Overzealous atheists are at it again.

Tithe is tithe and it is very different from charity works. However, they are not mutually exclusive (i.e)they can both run concurrently.

If you are not into paying tithe, that is okay. Go ahead and help the needy. But don’t come here with questions like this, aimed at instigating trouble.

P.S I am not a sheeple or whatever it is you call religious folks. T for tenkzzzz

phemmyfour:
What you give to them is called ALMS not TITHE. Don't get it twisted

Wrong teaching

A Muslim doesn't see Jesus as CHRIST, they only accept him as one of the prophets.

Once again, you are mixing things up

solomonsly11:
Is that what bible tells you, if you don't want to pay it hold it with you and if you really want to help go ahead and help don't say you used your tithe to help someone in need because there won't be any reward or blessing for doing that

18wheeler:
During a discussion in church some years back, someone presented two scenarios and asked whether tithe is applied appropriately.

One: a trader that buys goods from Lagos for resell in Jos. At the end of month he pays tithe out of the profits he made from sales of that month because that's his income. In arriving at the profit he would have deducted all his expenses incurred like transport, feeding & accommodation while in Lagos, shop rent, staff salary etc in the course of his business. Then he pays tithe out of what is left.

Two: a government worker who receives salary monthly is expected to pay tithe on the whole amount received. Should he not also deduct his daily transport cost, cost of lunch at least which he takes during work, and all other expenses he incurs in the course of his work and pay his tithe from what is left of his salary?

An argument ensued which remained inconclusive till we departed. Even the priests present at the discussion could not provide clear, convincing answers.
It was a catholic forum BTW.

nnadychuks:
Deuteronomy 14:22-29 has your answer. It's the only portion in the bible that tells us how to tithe. The rest just encourages you why to tithe.
It's funny that pastors have forsaken this part of the bible because it doesn't favor them.

felixawe:
He will tells you he prays for you why must you pay in another place �

Cnach:
Tithe is not paid to just anybody but a man of God or to the church

Batam:
There are needy in the church to be considered after your family
Your tithe is for the church any money given to others is a donation which is giving . Also, it's part of Christian works

Dtruthspeaker:
That is the first step of and for the love for God, Find Him, if you love Him.

And you will Find Him, if Only, you Truly Love Him!

dapadawee:
We have different types of offering....
And different purpose for giving them....
It's wrong to buy shoe for a man that don't have legs....
If you can't give tithe it will be difficult to give to the needy... Except for the camera though....
Tithe is what you give to the house of God and it have a specific percentage......
Giving to the needy is also necessary those who pays tithe also give to the needy they all have their reward

TheMan3:
Then that is not called tithe. Give arms to the poor and those in need. Pay your tithe to the house of God!!!!

Raph82:
I knew better the day I found out the truth about tithe payment right from the Bible. First, in the new testament, Jesus Christ did not lay any emphasis on tithe, he preached love and giving. Now in the old testament where the issue of tithe came up, it was made clear on how to pay it. Honestly speaking, no pastor would want u to give out ur tithe to the less privileged, motherless children and widows, they want everything paid to them quoting the book of Malachi. But the truth is, tithe payment should be paid to widows, less privileged, motherless children and ur church. Check out the book of Deuteronomy 26:12. No pastor can fool me over tithe, I know better.

Dtruthspeaker:
In here, you still see the instruction. in the place that He will choose, to make his name dwell there, NOT YOUR OWN CHOOSING BUT THE LORDS CHOSING AND DESIGNATION!

stagger:
Tithes belongs to God, not to the needy. You have 90% of your increase to decide what to do for the needy. Don't misplace priorities mister man.

People like you are the greedy Christians who can never bear to give God what belongs to God. The 10% God asked for, you want to give to the needy so you alone can enjoy the 90%. What a heartless, manipulative mindset!

felixawe:
Your pastor will tell you NO, that pay where u worship only .

richmond500:
OK, why do we allow the orphanage to rot? Or ate they also business organisations?
I am not against paying tithe, but as chritians, should we just neglect the orphanages?

Dtruthspeaker:
Deuteronomy 12:11 is The Law.

then it shall come about that THE PLACE in which the Lord your God will choose for His name to dwell, there you shall bring all that I command you: your burnt offerings and your sacrifices, YOUR TITHES AND THE CONTRIBUTION OF YOUR HAND, and all your choice votive

It is about The Holy Place Where God resides. even if his preists are as Eli and Samuel's children.

Morning, afternoon and evening.

Nigerians, it's 7days to a national indefinite strike by resident doctors. This strike is avertable if the government is serious. We would like you to take a walk with us on some of these issues.

The government often runs to the court of public opinion to blackmail the doctor, they quote percentages to hoodwink the uninitiated, misquote our oaths to make us look bad but that shall continue no more.

It is now time to tell our story, as it is often said, until lions learn to tell their stories, it is only the tale of the hunter's valor that we shall be inundated with. We shall not keep quiet, we shall shout and energize the bellow to fire the cause.

A quick stop at Ogun state reveals a cantankerous leader who starts a charade on air of how he increased the hazard allowance of the doctors in the state from N5,000 to the folds of 300%. What he actually did was to increase the monies to N15,000 and then tax it to put N12,000 in those doctors' pockets.

Dwelling on that, we shall attempt to do a comparative arithmetic with this man. The doctors there had by themselves been providing Personal Protective Equipments (PPEs) worth at least 200% (N30,000) per month of his supposedly new untaxed hazard allowance. In the event that they had hazardous exposure to the hepatitis B for example, the doctors by themselves had been procuring post exposure prophylaxis worth at least 800% (N120,000) of his supposedly new untaxed hazard allowance. *Mr Teacher, don't teach us nonsense!*

Let's leave our medical skills and remind you that we were quite adept in arithmetics. What you have provided falls extremely and abundantly short of what those health workers have been giving and you honestly had no iota of justification to display such uncouth theatrics.

We shall leave the prince to his lot and delve into other implications of work and its appurtenances during this pandemic so that you can be the judge of who is really being fair to whom.

Apparently the rotten mango didn't fall far from the tree, the federal government have started their own drama too. Corona sauntered in and the health workers were asked to take on the task head-on. The implications of being a health worker were this; while others stayed at home during the lock down, health workers went to work. While others were at less risk of a novel unseen enemy, the health workers commingled with it. Then when it was time to pay for work done, you paid everyone (health workers and others) what they were used to getting as if nothing changed!

The health workers that went to work apparently incurred extra expenses, faced greater health risks etc. and in the heat of it you had promised an increased hazard allowance, but apparently that promise can be likened to that of a man who says anything to have his way when his corey is raging. Now FG wants to stall and if possible renege on a signed agreement. Isn't that unheard of? Evidently not in our beloved country.

The antics of the federal government would not work this time around, your machiavellian arrangement will not be given a chance. We have seen first hand how monies since 2014 are yet to be paid because we were patient and attempted to be understanding with people who could not keep promises, but not this time and never again. The government must be held accountable for this agreement and the time is now. There is no better time for a government to prioritise health, health workers and health institutions.

It is important to quickly reiterate the oath that government and its acolytes are quick to quote to cause a stalemate. The hippocratic oath enumerates proper ethics and states clearly that the doctor should enjoy the practise of her art. The oath
is often misconstrued as saying a doctor should not receive what is rightfully hers, IT DOESN'T SAY SO!

A doctor already has so much empathy and considers life before money but should that be a reason to continue to malign, sidestep and be inhumane to doctors? Doctors go to the same market as everyone, they send their children to schools like everyone and no one says 'Oh, that's a doctor, let's let her have these goods or those services for free!' No, not at all, in fact the prices are often hiked with a pseudo-assumption that doctors are rich, where is the fairness in that?

People of Nigeria, join us in telling the government that enough is enough, we aren't asking for newspaper allowances, car allowances, house allowances, wardrobe allowances just hazard allowances, is that too much to ask?

15062020, we shall down-tool albeit sadly should government be unwilling to do the needful. We want to work, let them do their part.

The good people of Nigeria, we have come to tell you our stories so that you can be the adjudicator.

Morning, afternoon and evening again.

The voice of ARD FMC Abeokuta joining the reverberating NARD as it positions itself for a National Strike.

d33types:
My friend, what's the name of the antifungal cream which can not be used in under 18? There is none I know of

Let me help you before you enter a lost suit.

joyandfaith:
what is name of cream? if you have good evidences, use them.

SolarEdge:
We noticed some rash in our 4 months old baby's sex organ which I perceived is a reaction from her diapers, we took her to the hospital for checkup and they recommended anti fungal cream to be applied and instructed that we don't wear her diapers for now while we apply the cream.

While waiting at the hospital pharmacy I noticed the attendant was taking longer time to attend to me, because the doctor had already written to them what they should give to me with my baby's file in front of the attendant. The attendant still asked how old is the baby I said 4 months. She was just giving excuses that she's coming that I should be patient, so I sat down.

After some time she brought the cream and some drugs. We left and got home very late last night, so my wife suggested my baby should start the drugs by morning but we should apply the cream given to us and we did not wear our baby diaper as instructed.

So this morning my wife decided to read through the leaflet in each of the drugs including the cream. To our greatest surprise the cream was strictly meant for adults and it was categorically stated it should not be used for children under age 18

Now, I'm wondering why would the hospital pharmacy attendant give us such cream. Is it that the prescribed cream wasn't available that was why she was going to and fro like the devil described in the book of Job in the Holy Bible.

Please what's your advise on this matter, is it a careless mistake or it was a deliberate act.