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compton11:
Saul was how many years?

Read NIV

compton11:
hehehe u copy and paste and u don't even know what u posted.


Oya explain it

Once again another unintelligent post! Reading and research is far from y'all! A 1 minute search online will show you how stupid you are!

Am asking you to explain! You made a claim the koran has no variants so explain those na! When you brought up 1 samuel i pointed you to the footnote which has the answer your sought and went further to explain so now i have brought my own to you to explain, so go on the floor is yours bro you are the abdul not me.

We are waiting! I told you your own standards will mock and destroy allah! So far i haven't even brought up my own objections just flipping yours and islam looks a joke already.


Answer oh we are waiting be straight for once abdul

compton11:
hehehe

Maybe Saul was ______ when he began to reign

And your point is?

Still waiting!

compton11:
why u deceiving your ancestors here?

Which footnotes do u want me to read

KJV one?
The one that said Saul was thirty old

Or
NiV one

The one that said Saul was fourty


Or the other

That said Saul was _____?

Now you have been exposed your cognitive dissonance has come back! You gave NIV and KJV i said read the NIV to get your answer because it states why in the footnote, you know your shame and unclothedness is out for all to see now its a merry go round of stupidity laced with emojis as you can't even make any meaningful point because no one, even the NIV denies the variance! Abduls can mumu sha.

Still waiting for you to make your point!!!

compton11:
naah

What are these then

compton11:
you haven't answer oooo


Saul was

Thirty years old
Fourty years old
_____ years old

Then check your eyes and ask allah for vision!

We are still waiting for you to make sense!

compton11:
simple question and u are bringing footnotes that those that wrote footnotes can't answer

When the answer is in the footnote!!! you and ote i no sabi who mumu pass!

compton11:
hehehe u got caught.

Another version even he was _____ old when he began to reign.


That is Bible y'all always shout it is perfect

And the footnotes u posted,is it KJV or NKJV ?

Another lie from y'all! No christain ever said the bible is is miracle of perfect preservation, thats a koranic narrative by muslims not christains! Thats why we have footnotes at the end of each chapter so you can see where inference is drawn from or if therevis a variant reading due to translation or scribal errors, thats why i told you to read the end note because its no secret, its open for all to see! Thats why i still don't get your point like you made a breaking discovery which we didn't know about! So now answer, are there variant readings in the koran YES or NO.

i let you set the standard of the narrative so i can use yout own standards against you because sadly every argument any mudlim i have faced uses are often out of ignorance and when i flip it, it hurts islam so you brought up variant, lets see if koran can hold up the same scrutiny you raised so i await your answer.

Lastly if only y'all read and speak less you will know that the bible is not the WORD OF GOD, but the inspired word of GOD revealed to men by the HOLY SPIRIT who wrote them down, The koran on the other hand is the word of allah so it is according to yall perfect and preserved without and scribal error or variant reading which is a lie though.

I await a yes or no.

compton11:
variant like calling boy a girl?

I haven't given any example, just answer yes or no like how i have been straight with my answers to you.

[quote author=compton11 post=105737629]so

Saul was thirty or forty or ______ when he began to reign?

Now i get why you couldn't understand how to use footnotes, you can't even understand what you read.

compton11:
hehehe u got caught.

Another version even he was _____ old when he began to reign.


That is Bible y'all always shout it is perfect

And the footnotes u posted,is it KJV or NKJV ?

NIV



let me skip the question i wanted to ask and turn your own table against you, are there variant reading in your koran? Its a simple yes or no.

compton11:
hehehe u got caught.

Another version even he was _____ old when he began to reign.


That is Bible y'all always shout it is perfect

And the footnotes u posted,is it KJV or NKJV ?

Failed to see how i got caught! Rather i withheld information from you so that you can expose your own stupidity! Both manuscript are traced back to the jews the difference is the one that KJV uses is the standard accepted script of the RABINNIC JEWS! modern day jews!!! While the other text was the standard text of old judaism! Thats why those details are there, and yes the jewish language doesn't have the word forty because its a transliteration of the word in english!

I quick seach would have shown you this but like all dawah boys who just parrot objections thrown at them by zakir naik and deedat without investigating, now making a fool of your deen and allah again.


If i may ask what does his age and how long he reigned affect the message being passed?


Google is free bro, fact check before you speak.

compton11:
boy this is not about foot note

Why did one recorded forty years and another recorded thirty years and they are the same chapter same verse?

Don't know if you are just dumb or playing dumb! The footnote clearly says some of the manuscript don't have thirty and forty! Meaning depending on the manuscript you might find the personal detail of his age and how long he reigned or not! Now you have been spoon fed i hope you can read and understand footnote now.

compton11:
u even post what u don't understand.

Simple question I asked

Explain how the four version of the Bible are different

Even with the answer to your question right there infront of you, you still can't see! What does footnote A and B say? Read them!

compton11:
who asked u all these?

Simple question I asked u and what u copy and pasted ain't related

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


The new international version Bible let us know Saul was thirty years old when he became king and he resigned over forty two years.


But when we check the king James Bible of the same verse ,it says


King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


King James never even mention the age he became king but it said he resigned one year and when he had reign two year,and that is even different from new international version.



Now to the third version



JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was ----years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.



This one even put _______ age there and said he reigned two years.


And also


American Standard Version

Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

This version indicated that Saul was 40 years old.

What happened among the these versions of the Bible.

That is what I'm asking u that u are copy and pasting,ain't nobody asked u that.

It was too long so the footnote was cut of so am posting it herr for you

Footnotes
A 1 Samuel 13:1 A few late manuscripts of the Septuagint; Hebrew does not have thirty.
B 1 Samuel 13:1 Probable reading of the original Hebrew text (see Acts 13:21); Masoretic Text does not have forty-.
C 1 Samuel 13:5 Some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac; Hebrew thirty thousand
D 1 Samuel 13:15 Hebrew; Septuagint Gilgal and went his way; the rest of the people went after Saul to meet the army, and they went out of Gilgal
E 1 Samuel 13:16 Two Hebrew manuscripts; most Hebrew manuscripts Geba, a variant of Gibeah
F 1 Samuel 13:20 Septuagint; Hebrew plow points
G 1 Samuel 13:21 That is, about 1/4 ounce or about 8 grams
H 1 Samuel 13:21 That is, about 1/8 ounce or about 4 grams

compton11:
who asked u all these?

Simple question I asked u and what u copy and pasted ain't related

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


The new international version Bible let us know Saul was thirty years old when he became king and he resigned over forty two years.


But when we check the king James Bible of the same verse ,it says


King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


King James never even mention the age he became king but it said he resigned one year and when he had reign two year,and that is even different from new international version.



Now to the third version



JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was ----years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.



This one even put _______ age there and said he reigned two years.


And also


American Standard Version

Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel

This version indicated that Saul was 40 years old.

What happened among the these versions of the Bible.

That is what I'm asking u that u are copy and pasting,ain't nobody asked u that.

Y'all can't read at all, did you ever write project in school at all or you just outsourced it? Look at the highlighted words bro the are lettered from a to z then scroll to the footnote and read why they were highlighted!!!! My GOD must you be spoon fed! Now if you read verse 1 you will see the highlighted words with alphabet a and b now scroll to the footnote a d see what it says about it, its that easy.

compton11:
ok ask your question then and follow it with answer to my question.

Hope your question is answered now? As for the tanakh "masorotic hebrew text" you haven't highlighted where it says any different so am waiting on that!

compton11:
ok ask your question then and follow it with answer to my question.

Will answer your question first, now thid is the NIV read it all the way to the footnote then you will get the answer you seek, read the footnote it answers your question on 1 samuel 13


1 Samuel 13
New International Version
Samuel Rebukes Saul
13 Saul was thirty[a] years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty-[b] two years.

2 Saul chose three thousand men from Israel; two thousand were with him at Mikmash and in the hill country of Bethel, and a thousand were with Jonathan at Gibeah in Benjamin. The rest of the men he sent back to their homes.

3 Jonathan attacked the Philistine outpost at Geba, and the Philistines heard about it. Then Saul had the trumpet blown throughout the land and said, “Let the Hebrews hear!” 4 So all Israel heard the news: “Saul has attacked the Philistine outpost, and now Israel has become obnoxious to the Philistines.” And the people were summoned to join Saul at Gilgal.

5 The Philistines assembled to fight Israel, with three thousand[c] chariots, six thousand charioteers, and soldiers as numerous as the sand on the seashore. They went up and camped at Mikmash, east of Beth Aven. 6 When the Israelites saw that their situation was critical and that their army was hard pressed, they hid in caves and thickets, among the rocks, and in pits and cisterns. 7 Some Hebrews even crossed the Jordan to the land of Gad and Gilead.

Saul remained at Gilgal, and all the troops with him were quaking with fear. 8 He waited seven days, the time set by Samuel; but Samuel did not come to Gilgal, and Saul’s men began to scatter. 9 So he said, “Bring me the burnt offering and the fellowship offerings.” And Saul offered up the burnt offering. 10 Just as he finished making the offering, Samuel arrived, and Saul went out to greet him.

11 “What have you done?” asked Samuel.

Saul replied, “When I saw that the men were scattering, and that you did not come at the set time, and that the Philistines were assembling at Mikmash, 12 I thought, ‘Now the Philistines will come down against me at Gilgal, and I have not sought the Lord’s favor.’ So I felt compelled to offer the burnt offering.”

13 “You have done a foolish thing,” Samuel said. “You have not kept the command the Lord your God gave you; if you had, he would have established your kingdom over Israel for all time. 14 But now your kingdom will not endure; the Lord has sought out a man after his own heart and appointed him ruler of his people, because you have not kept the Lord’s command.”

15 Then Samuel left Gilgal[d] and went up to Gibeah in Benjamin, and Saul counted the men who were with him. They numbered about six hundred.

Israel Without Weapons
16 Saul and his son Jonathan and the men with them were staying in Gibeah[e] in Benjamin, while the Philistines camped at Mikmash. 17 Raiding parties went out from the Philistine camp in three detachments. One turned toward Ophrah in the vicinity of Shual, 18 another toward Beth Horon, and the third toward the borderland overlooking the Valley of Zeboyim facing the wilderness.

19 Not a blacksmith could be found in the whole land of Israel, because the Philistines had said, “Otherwise the Hebrews will make swords or spears!” 20 So all Israel went down to the Philistines to have their plow points, mattocks, axes and sickles[f] sharpened. 21 The price was two-thirds of a shekel[g] for sharpening plow points and mattocks, and a third of a shekel[h] for sharpening forks and axes and for repointing goads.

22 So on the day of the battle not a soldier with Saul and Jonathan had a sword or spear in his hand; only Saul and his son Jonathan had them.

Jonathan Attacks the Philistines
23 Now a detachment of Philistines had gone out to the pass at Mikmash.

Footnotes
1 Samuel 13:1 A few late manuscripts of the Septuagint; Hebrew does not have thirty.
1 Samuel 13:1 Probable reading of the original Hebrew text (see Acts 13:21); Masoretic Text does not have forty-.
1 Samuel 13:5 Some Septuagint manuscripts and Syriac; Hebrew thirty thousand
1 Samuel 13:15 Hebrew; Septuagint Gilgal and went his way; the rest of the people went after Saul to meet the army, and they went out of Gilgal
1 Samuel 13:16 Two Hebrew manuscripts; most Hebrew manuscripts Geba, a variant of Gibeah
1 Samuel 13:20 Septuagint; Hebrew plow points
1 Samuel 13:21 That is, about 1/4 ounce or about 8 grams
1 Samuel 13:21 That is, about 1/8 ounce or about 4 grams

compton11:
boy are u going to answer me or not


Or u are just using that to dogde my question?

Islamic supremacy strikes again! The i can qurstion you with lies but you can't and aren't permitted to question or expose my lies! If only this is how court works no criminal will be sentenced.


Ok let me play your game because i know for sure you will run again, remember these words from me boy, YOU WILL RUN! but before i answer do you accept that once i answer this then it's my turn to ask you a question which you must answer?

Am waiting bro!

compton11:
so this is what u are beating around the bush since?

I have already move away from it.




And don't use that to move away from this question too,this is the fourth time I will ask u

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


In The same verse

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


This version even omitted the age


JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was ----years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

Three Bible version of the same verses recorded different


So how old was Saul when he became king and how many years did he reigned ?


Explain

Moved on Now this is funny! So you are brave enough to make a claim but when evidence of your claim being false is thrown back at you, rather than step up and own up to being wrong your answer is " i have moved on from that"!!!! Ok then whats the guarantee that the moment i expose you again like i do your coward imams and dawah boys here you won't just move on again?

compton11:
I don't know the question u asked and maybe u should ask it again


In the meantime explain this mystery if u sure of your holy book

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


In The same verse

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


This version even omitted the age


JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was ----years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.


So how old was Saul when he became king and how many years did he reigned ?

You know the questions i asked, same scheme by all muslims i have met, never any honesty with y'all not once has any of y'all i have met showed any honesty, yall bring up a topic or verse i post said verse in context of chapter and ask for yall to read and tell us if what yall presupposed is right or wrong, this realisation makes yall whine and run to another topic then claim i never saw your question in the first place after it was asked more than a once! Have yall no shame of honesty at all?

Ok let me indulge you this last time, if you want to discuss saul and what not no p just answer the questions i asked on your previous topic and they are.

1. Why did you manipulate the verse because what you posted and the real on i posted are different.

2. I posted the full chapter so read and tell us if the chapter was narrating an ordeal a certain people faced or was it a command like you assumed by asking me if i have smashed a kids head against the rock.

Lets see if now you can see the questions or as usual apply selective blindness.

compton11:
ain't understanding what u said I'm running from


But u still skipping this question and I will keep asking u


explain these same verse to me,they are the same verses.

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


In The same verse

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


This version even omitted the age


JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was ----years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.


So how old was Saul when he became king and how many years did he reigned ? gringrin

Understanding is always far from yall! When you are ready to answer the questions asked of you regarding the first verse you brought then holla at me rather than running faster than your shadow once your ignorance is on full view.

compton11:
which science of hadith do your dumb ass know?


when did I ask that?



nigga what are u listening?

I said explain this to me since u skip my first question


explain these same verse to me,they are the same verses.

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


In The same verse

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


This version even omitted the age


JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was ----years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.


So how old was Saul when he became king and how many years did he reigned ? gringrin

As usual abduls run even f4om their own argument and you need mental help bozo

compton11:
when did I say sahih is fake?



Hassan are now fake? when did I tell your dumb ass that?



Even daif has an accuracy of 45 to 85% of being authentic its the last which i can't remember how its spelt that is 0 to 44% in accuracy that are fake!!! Do u even what it means for hadith to weak?



Yall second call muslims who don't even know how to grade and classify your sources! For your info its the sahih and hassan hadiths your saudi prince wants to scrap,and now u must bring the evidence of where he said good and authentic Hadith should be scrapped.




one take away though you just confirmed you are an ignorant spawn of inbrd mutah because you just confirmed my stance on the prince scraping hadiths which you laughed at with an emoji which made you look stupid when you thought you were slick! Now whose the dumbo with a sad life hiding behind emojis? just like majority Christians, abusing and shit .





Oh! lastly, WHY DID YOU MANIPULATE THE WORDS OF THE TEXT YOU GAVE ABDUL?

chai I fill your pain with all the rubbish u are just writing.

Let me add to your woe



explain these same verse to me,they are the same verses.

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


In The same verse

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


This version even omitted the age


JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was ----years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.


So how old was Saul when he became king and how many years did he reigned ?

How dumb are you? I even gave you the science of hadith and you ask the dumbest question of how hadith is weak? Common sense is really uncommon!

Ok tell us we are listening.

compton11:
don't forget Jesus was headslammer too

boy what concerns me with the chapter being posted by u?

I said explain what it means.

what is u talking about?



answer what?

Go back to inception and read carefully maybe then your brain will work and you will have sense! Same script by yall no difference at all,

No eacape for you
1. You posted a fake verse why?
2. I posted the full chapter and exposed your lie, now read the chapter and answer if it was narrative or a command its that easy abdul why are you scared? Believe in allah to give you the answer dont jump.

Maybe the isa in ya koran was a head slamming terrorist, yes but hes the only head slaming isa i know.

compton11:
when did I say sahih is fake?



Hassan are now fake? when did I tell your dumb ass that?



Even daif has an accuracy of 45 to 85% of being authentic its the last which i can't remember how its spelt that is 0 to 44% in accuracy that are fake!!! Do u even what it means for hadith to weak?



Yall second call muslims who don't even know how to grade and classify your sources! For your info its the sahih and hassan hadiths your saudi prince wants to scrap,and now u must bring the evidence of where he said good and authentic Hadith should be scrapped.




one take away though you just confirmed you are an ignorant spawn of inbrd mutah because you just confirmed my stance on the prince scraping hadiths which you laughed at with an emoji which made you look stupid when you thought you were slick! Now whose the dumbo with a sad life hiding behind emojis? just like majority Christians, abusing and shit .





Oh! lastly, WHY DID YOU MANIPULATE THE WORDS OF THE TEXT YOU GAVE ABDUL?

chai I fill your pain with all the rubbish u are just writing.

Let me add to your woe



explain these same verse to me,they are the same verses.

New International Version

Saul was thirty years old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years
1 Samuel 13:1


In The same verse

King James Bible

Saul reigned one year; and when he had reigned two years over Israel-1 Samuel 13:1


This version even omitted the age


JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was ----years old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.


So how old was Saul when he became king and how many years did he reigned ?

Weren't it you who claimed weak hadiths?

Now everyone can see who is lying and running from direct questions, all you do is lie and deflect like your fellow muslims, never metba honest one even among your imams.

Still waiting for the answers to my questions bro maybe you will answer before ya jihadi isa and mahdi comes!

compton11:
scrap some hadith cos they are fake just like Bible

Hahahaha sahih are now fake? Hassan are now fake? Even daif has an accuracy of 45 to 85% of being authentic its the last which i can't remember how its spelt that is 0 to 44% in accuracy that are fake!!! Yall second call muslims who don't even know how to grade and classify your sources! For your info its the sahih and hassan hadiths your saudi prince wants to scrap, one take away though you just confirmed you are an ignorant spawn of inbrd mutah because you just confirmed my stance on the prince scraping hadiths which you laughed at with an emoji which made you look stupid when you thought you were slick! Now whose the dumbo with a sad life hiding behind emojis?



Oh! lastly, WHY DID YOU MANIPULATE THE WORDS OF THE TEXT YOU GAVE ABDUL?

compton11:
blessed is the one that smash your infant unto rock.



Boy explain that thing

I know u never see the verse before

Third rewording of one verse by one abdul! 3 miracles of reinterpretation by 1 abdul, no wonder you ask ten head slammers one question you get ten different answers!

Dumbo i have posted the chapter here fir all to see your unclothedness if you ain't scared and you are sure of your stance then read and answer if its a narrative of a people on an ordeal or its a command as you insinuate! Why are you running?

ABDUL WHY HAVE YOU REWORDED THE VERSE 3 TIMES NOW? is your deen and dawah this weak? Is this your best? Your imam must be a dumbo like allah?

Grow a pair and answer! Or you scared the answers exposes your stupidity because you are an inbred?

compton11:
u said he said hadith should be hadith!

So in which means in your dumb ass mind,it means all

Your dumb head has googled and found out saidi prince wants to srap most hadiths becaise it embarrasses your love-vendor pedo prophet and vampire allah so as usual like your terrorists in the making, WINDOWS.EXE stopped working then you posted this gibberish!!!

compton11:
u said he said hadith should be hadith!

So in which means in your dumb ass mind,it means all

Does this rant make any comprehensible sense to you? Abdul rephrase so we can understand you or are you high on camel piss?

compton11:
boy explain the verse to me


No cause for alarm

Don't have to explain what is clear for a nursery kid to read and understand.

NOW ANSWER THE QUESTIONS
1. WHY DID YOU LIE AND MANIPULATE THE TEXT OF THE VERSE TO THE SHAME OF demon allah.

2.THE ORIGINAL CHAPTER WHICH I POSTED TO EXPOSE YOU, AFTER READING IT WAS IS A NARRATIVE OR A COMMAND.

ANSWER THE QUESTIONS THEREIN LIES YOUR ANSWER.

BE BRAVE dawagandist of allah, why are yall do chicken?

compton11:
and Saudi crown prince Said all hadith should be scrapped?

Add comprehension to your list of depraved self deficiencies please show us where i said ALL? we are waiting for more tap dance!