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dnapstar:
08094907930. Kindly add me to the group

OK
we are starting in july

billyG:
Tnks for your expositions,I wanna ask those goats pic I saw on your farm whites with a splash of brown what breeds are they?

am not sure of the particular pic you are talking about. most of my goats are Nigerian breeds - both the northern sokoto maradi breed and the southern WAD. the only foreign breed I have is the Sahelian goat breed ( west African long legged) from Niger republic/Mali.

iclass1:
Boss Zayons ...i love what you are doing on this platform...please am interest in Goat Rearing Business. add me to your your whatsapp group if there is any.
thanks
07030251702

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yak:
I wish to go into this goat farming but my major concern has bn security for the goats. those already in this, how do u go about it

there are ways around it. the bottom line is this : you will spend money ( the amount depend on several factors.) but it is not as difficult as it appear.

yak:
I wish to go into this goat farming but my major concern has bn security for the goats. those already in this, how do u go about it

there are ways around it. the bottom line is this : you will spend money ( the amount depend on several factors.) but it is not as difficult as it appear.

Blackbelly:
Zayons pls add me to the WhatsApp group when it is ready. I have a few issues with my goats. Here is my digit zero 902 119 821 two

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Adegboye71:
Pls is dwarf goat farming you are doing?

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WAD and northern breeds except Bornu White for obvious reasons.

ISKANDER23RD:
Please I would like to know if goats can be reared by open grazing in an enclosed space whereby u grow the grass they eat and rotate them from one field to another and probably only give them supplement. Of course u will also provide shades for them where they will retire during rain or at night........



Take for instance a situation where you have 1000 Boer goat how do you feed such without breaking a bank if you have to buy their feed bearing in mind they eat so much for a day.


But if different grass they consumed can be grown and watered even in dry season I feel that the cost of feeding may be reduce by 65%


I await your reply thank you sir you have done so well

yes it is possible but this model if not properly managed may cost more. if you have a large herd size, then you will need to spend a lot to grow the grass and care for it. if your goat population is small and you have free land then go for this.

if your herd size is large or you plan to go commercial in future and if you plan well, you can formulate goat feeds that are cheap. you can actually feed a goat at LESS THAN N20 (twenty naira) per day .

zero grazing goat farming is always better and more profitable for many reasons. that means your goat will not be eating grasses but only formulated feeds. this is better if you are doing it for business.

lanre2009:
Good morning bro...Pls do you have a line thats on whatsapp.....Will you be kind enough to educate us on the commercial gain of raising Boer goats....thanks in Advance

as soon as the WhatsApp group is on I will post the details here .
am quite busy now

zellis001:
Thanks 4 d concern. I got d bucks 4 7500 minimum and the doe 4 a maximum of 12,000. Some of the does were sold 4 10,000 - 11,000 depending on how far their pregnancy was. The transport cost was 250k cuz the truck was loaded wit goats and sacks of their feed.

the transport cost appear to be on the high side. do you mean to say 250k or 25k ? 250k for 12 goats is high for me. that is about 20k per goat transport cost.

jp130:
Dis is worrisome o. D cost of purchase, logistics n medication go b high. Out of 3 does I bought(2hausa n 1WAD), I lost 2 remaining remaining 1 Hausa wic is preg n may deliver dis week

don't be scared . it will not always be like this. you are still learning the ropes. once you gain more experience , such situations will never cone up again

zellis001:
I recently bought 12 goats - 10 does n 2 bucks. After 2 weeks, 1 of the bucks had diarhea and mucus discharge from the nose. After den, 1 by 1 dey began 2 display same symptoms but they are all fine now. A vet dr adminstered some medication on them. Before the medication, all the does were pregnant (they were bought pregnant) wen i bought them but dey started 2 lose their kids. 6 of them have lost their kids and 2 does died after days afta losing their kids. I purchased dem from katsina n i live in kaduna. I dont know if it is the stress of bringing dem here that is causing the abortion storm.

Has any1 experience this before?

many things can cause stress in goat. sometimes newly transported goat can have stress especially if it is over a long distance and also as a result of change in environment .

many at times stress may lead to sickness such sickness may present with symptoms such as diarrhea, fever, nasal discharge and coughing. there may be abortion along the line. so your experience is not strange .

next time your newly acquired goat should be isolated and specially attended to.

zayons:
Ectoparasites are big threat to goats under zero grazing system . I intend to share some thoughts on this soon.

happy new year to you all

we shall resume discussions this week
cheers

Kid Care in Goat Farming

like I said earlier every serious goat farmer should master the skill of taking care of goat kids from birth to weaning

ideally kids are usually weaned at 3 months but it can even be earlier if you have a well structured breeding program .

in a normal situation labour and delivery should be uneventful. there should be no issue . assisting delivery is also a skill and not part of this discussion

after the kid is delivered it should be given breast milk by the mother withing 24 hours . the best time time is actually within the first 20 mins.

this breast milk is special and very vital for the survival and good health of the kid. the milk is called colostrum .

cont'd

zayons:
Aside nutrition one other important skill that all goat farmers should have is taking care of kids. it is extremely important because a huge portion of your profit depends on this.

Simple analysis for a doe
in the worst scenario, one female goat will kid thrice in two years(minimum) producing singleton once and twins twice(twining rate is always high with good management for all goats irrespective of breed. with good breeds, thrice twining and triplets is possible). that means in two years , your one female goat population had increased to seven goats(the first kid would have produced her own one kid if not two).

now these kids must be well managed. it is a skill and I intend to share some thoughts on these .

meanwhile see some of my goat kids from my zero grazing farm. about one week old .

happy new year
I have been very busy and could not update this thread
now let us resume our discussions on goat farming

REUBEN010:
If having a pure breed is not a must, getting semen from a Boer buck for artificial insemination may be a cheaper alternative compared to getting live Boer goats.

you are right. it is actually a cheaper and smarter alternative if you know what you are doing .

Aside nutrition one other important skill that all goat farmers should have is taking care of kids. it is extremely important because a huge portion of your profit depends on this.

Simple analysis for a doe
in the worst scenario, one female goat will kid thrice in two years(minimum) producing singleton once and twins twice(twining rate is always high with good management for all goats irrespective of breed. with good breeds, thrice twining and triplets is possible). that means in two years , your one female goat population had increased to seven goats(the first kid would have produced her own one kid if not two).

now these kids must be well managed. it is a skill and I intend to share some thoughts on these .

meanwhile see some of my goat kids from my zero grazing farm. about one week old .

Willie2015:
How do you make fortune in goat farming ?

- Don't see any commercial farms around like piggery, poultry etc
- Even the North depends on the small scale holders to supply their markets
- Don't see anyone ard making good monthly income from breeding goats around
- Exotic goats like Boer & Kahalari are not even available on ground
- We see around guys that made it cool dough from poultry and piggery etc..... u dont get to see wealthy goat farmers around.


My 2cents

(1) that is the more reason why more people should go into goat farming. it is not that the market is not there or profit not to be made. the market is still huge both local and foreign. one of the things that determines the profitability of any venture is the market size.

(2) you may not have seen commercial goat farm but that does not mean there are none. they are there and it is good they are making money quietly.
again assuming there are none , that is an opportunity for you. imagine you having a farm of 5,000 goats. you are richer than a poultry farmer of 50,000 birds. do the maths yourself.

(3) people tend to commonise the issue of goat because it had always been with us. until you take it to commercial level you won't see the potential . for start ups goats are better than cattle.

(4) no serious goat farmer will be making announcement of their profit. what for? if you are waiting for the announcement so as to be convinced then you will wait for long.

(6) exotic goats around ? they are in the country but not necessary for your success. in fact our WAD is one of the best breed for milk production better than many foreign breed. Boer and Kalahari are good for meat not milk . goat milk production is even more profitable than meat but requires more capital.

conclusion
goat farming is still one of the best investment you can consider. goats are like current accounts. your goat bring money almost instantly. the market is always there . and the profit is always there. the problem had always been with meeting the market demand.

with kebbi state govt planning to export 2,000 goats daily to foreign country , there is likelihood of supply shortfall and price increase. although price had increased of recent. more profit for goat owners am sure.

gabe:
Good one OP. I've seen goats eating poultry droppings. I was surprised till i saw it has high nitrogen/protien content. Please what % of feed mix do you use?

between 30-45% depending on several factors - poultry droppings processing method used, age of goat, breeding state etc

nams77:
Nice one op. I intend setting up a goat farm also. Pls where are you based

southwest Ondo state

Ectoparasites are big threat to goats under zero grazing system . I intend to share some thoughts on this soon.

zayons:
our next discussion will be on basic materials, including drugs and skills that every intending goat farmer should have .
just hang around

cont'd.
1. Antibiotics especially propen and oxytet
2. Epinephrine in case of anaphylactic shock
3. vegetable oil or our own palm oil
4. vit b co
5. Dewormers

these are basic materials . you may need others but you will always need these if you are a serious goat farmer . I don't mean those who rear goats at home on free range . they don't need any basic material since they are really not after profit or doing it as a business.

but for serious goat farmer or intending goat farmer prepare to get them and if possible get the other matetials not listed here . I listed only few basic ones here.

cheers

tabontabon:
What is the average price of a six months old WAD goat

that will depend on many factors. but recently the price of goats had gone up significantly .

the age , current health status of the goat, weight/size, the owner or seller, locality , the buyers skill/knowledge about goat etc are all factors that determine the price.

tabontabon:
How many months from birth does it take a WAD goat to mature for sales?

maturity depends to a large extent on management especially nutrition . with proper management and under intensive zero grazing system goats are ready for meat production at 10 months and for breeding at 6/7 months .
again management is critical here .

tabontabon:
Pls,can a unused poultry pen be converted to rear/breed WAD goats (zero grazing).

yes but how is the floor ? you may need to modify the floor and make it suitable for goats

PretzelPlus:
zayons : please can I have a good phone number for you. I have a goat farm as well and I want to ask you some questions.

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OK
0816 806 4251

zayons:
our next discussion will be on basic materials, including drugs and skills that every intending goat farmer should have .
just hang around

This list is basic if you want to succeed as goat farmer- small scale or large scale. even if you have access to a vet, you still need this list for your own good. here is the list :

1. rectal thermometer. you will need to take your goat's temperature sometimes. you will not always have a vet to do this for you. have it and monitor the health of your goat
2. Drencher - to administer oral drugs
3. syringes
4. needles
5. Activated charcoal

to be contd.

moyin2009:
Thanks for sharing this wonderful info.

thank you sir

redsun:
You need to leave your phone number here for those that will like to contact or meet you in person.

08168064251

osita4ag:
Please I need your phone number or contact urgently. 08079489477

sorry bros for the delayed response. this thread is now under agric section. but here is my number : 08168064251

this is good; just establishing the fact that goats stores value like money.

in many parts of the world goats serve as current accounts and cattle as savings account for the owners.
everybody should own two goats - a male and a female. this makes a lot of economic sense.

Walexz02:
Thanks for sharing this wonderful information
Please how do we process poultry dropping onto goat feed

poultry droppings can be processed by autoclaving or by dry heat. other methods of processing such as ensiling and deep stacking are also effective. drying/heating temperature should not be above 90 degrees centigrade so as not to destroy the protein content. you can use thermometer to monitor this.


Deep-stacking refers to the process of stockpiling droppings for later use. The temperature should be between 60 and 70 degrees centigrade .

NB
I must sound a note of warning here.

pls process the droppings VERY WELL before you give them to goats . be careful . don't come back to blame me if things go wrong as a result of inexperience or poor knowledge .

if you are not sure of what you are doing don't do it.

although I use it regularly for my goats till today . but this is because I understand how it works and I have several ways by which I process the droppings and ensure quality control.
don't call me if you are not willing to take caution