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petra1:Sure, but not the tithe from the Israelite. "they which minister about holy things and they which wait at the altar" did not at anytime receive tithe from the people This may be the reason the Apostles refused to collect tithe. |
petra1:Of course, Levites received the tithe as an inheritance in return for their service... Numbers 18 he Lord said to Aaron,........... 5 “You are to be responsible for the care of the sanctuary and the altar, so that my wrath will not fall on the Israelites again. 6 I myself have selected your fellow Levites from among the Israelites as a gift to you, dedicated to the Lord to do the work at the tent of meeting. 7 But only you and your sons may serve as priests in connection with everything at the altar and inside the curtain....... 21 “I give to the Levites all the tithes in Israel as their inheritance in return for the work they do while serving at the tent of meeting. 22 From now on the Israelites must not go near the tent of meeting, or they will bear the consequences of their sin and will die. 23 It is the Levites who are to do the work at the tent of meeting and bear the responsibility for any offenses they commit against it. This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. They will receive no inheritance among the Israelites. 24 Instead, I give to the Levites as their inheritance the tithes that the Israelites present as an offering to the Lord. That is why I said concerning them: ‘They will have no inheritance among the Israelites.’” Its clear enough. The tithe don't go to the priest, it goes to your equivalent of modern day church workers. They are the one to tithe to the priest. Also note that Levites received the tithe because they belong to the tribe of Levi and not just because they will work at the temple. i.e. everybody from the tribe of Levi is entitled to benefit from the tithe, working at the tent of meeting is secondary. See 2 Chronicles 31 below 2 Chronicles 31 .....11 Hezekiah gave orders to prepare storerooms in the temple of the Lord, and this was done. 12 Then they faithfully brought in the contributions, tithes and dedicated gifts..........14 Kore son of Imnah the Levite, keeper of the East Gate, was in charge of the freewill offerings given to God, distributing the contributions made to the Lord and also the consecrated gifts..........16 In addition, they distributed to the males three years old or more whose names were in the genealogical records-all who would enter the temple of the Lord to perform the daily duties of their various tasks, according to their responsibilities and their divisions. 17 And they distributed to the priests enrolled by their families in the genealogical records and likewise to the Levites twenty years old or more, according to their responsibilities and their divisions. 18 They included all the little ones, the wives, and the sons and daughters of the whole community listed in these genealogical records. |
petra1:God's tithe is not meant for modern day men of God or pastors, it's already given to the Levites as their inheritance. They own it. To qualify as a tithe recipient you must come come from the tribe of Levi. Please note that the other tribes of Israel were not required to give their tithe to the priest, it is the Levites that tithe to the priest. Numbers 18:25-28 25 The Lord said to Moses, 26 “Speak to the Levites and say to them: ‘When you receive from the Israelites the tithe I give you as your inheritance, you must present a tenth of that tithe as the Lord’s offering. 27 Your offering will be reckoned to you as grain from the threshing floor or juice from the winepress. 28 In this way you also will present an offering to the Lord from all the tithes you receive from the Israelites. From these tithes you must give the Lord’s portion to Aaron the priest. Nehemiah 10:37-38 37 “Moreover, we will bring to the storerooms of the house of our God, to the priests, the first of our ground meal, of our grain offerings, of the fruit of all our trees and of our new wine and olive oil. And we will bring a tithe of our crops to the Levites, for it is the Levites who collect the tithes in all the towns where we work. 38 A priest descended from Aaron is to accompany the Levites when they receive the tithes, and the Levites are to bring a tenth of the tithes up to the house of our God, to the storerooms of the treasury. |
LambanoPeace:He is not dead in the mind of the Jew's because it's not recorded anywhere that he died. If he is alive, have you considered the implication? It means two high priests are currently in office (at the same time). Christ and Melchizedek. Is that possible? |
Some of the posters defending tithing here are pastors. But I observed they always happy to disown Malachi 3:10. Instead they run to Abraham's giving a tenth of spoils of war to Melchizedek as justification for their tithing practice. Is it because the reference to Malachi is fraudulent and cannot be defended? This is something other tithers following this thread should consider. Because nobody tithe because Abraham gave a tenth to Melchizedek, they tithe because of what's written in Malachi 3:10! And pastors don't preach Genesis 14 in church. The fact is that tithing as practice in churches today is based on sermon designed to milk the congregation of their hard earned cash. |
openmine:I think Petra1 should also provide the name of the priest that received Isaac's and Jacob tithe. |
petra1:That's not the point. If we say Abraham tithed his possession, we should remember that he was not sole owner of the spoils of war. He was joint owner with Aner, Eshkol and Mamre (pagans). Meaning Pagans also tithed to Melchizedek. An indication that the tithe to Melchizedek had more to do with custom than revelation. |
openmine:You are doing a job keeping petra1 in check. Keep it up ![]() |
petra1:Regarding the issue of ownership, you may want to consider Genesis 14:24....... "24I will accept nothing but what my men have eaten and the share that belongs to the men who went with me—to Aner, Eshkol and Mamre. Let them have their share.” if we say Abraham had right to the goods, he did not give a tenth to Melchizedek as "sole owner" of the spoils of war. Aner, Eshkol and Mamre had stake in the spoils. So Abraham gave tithe on behalf of himself, Aner, Eshkol and Mamre. Now i was of the view these other guys did not know the Almighty. ![]() |
petra1:OMGGGG! ![]() |
petra1:Galatians 5:19-21 19 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 5: 1 "It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife." Even pagans knew! ![]() |
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This may be the reason the Apostles refused to collect tithe.
