₦airaland Forum

tensazangetsu20:
Which one is western igbos

area that ranges between present day imo, enugu abia, ebonyi...i guess

PrecisionFx:
There was never a time in history wen SE n SS was a part of the Bini Kingdom (Not Empire, cuz it was never an empire.

really so you want to change history.

na wa o black men our wahala plenty.

erico2k2:
How does this help modern day Benin cit, ikpoba hill, ring road and satana markets? or Ogiao

times has changed ... that was what i was trying to explain to tensazangetsu20

he wants us to revert to those days ... pre colonial era...when they were killing twins etc.... black man and backwardness...whites are futuristic,always looking forward thinking about traveling to Mars but blacks are always backward looking they swear for black man

tensazangetsu20:
That's the map of the benin empire. Stop twisting the facts or post another map that shows the benin empire having influence on then south east and south south parts of Nigeria. The south east was never under any empire.

At its height, Benin dominated trade along the entire coastline from the Western Niger Delta,through Lagos to modern-day Ghana. [5] It was for this reason that this coastline was named the Bight ofBenin .The present-day Republic ofBenin, formerly Dahomey,decidedto choosethe nameof this bight as the name of its country. Benin ruled over the tribes of the Niger Delta including the Western Igbo,Ijaw,Itshekiri, and Urhobo amongst others. It also held sway over the Eastern Yoruba tribes of Ondo, Ekiti, Mahin/Ugbo, and Ijebu. [6] It also established the first colony of Lagos hundreds of years before the British took


source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Benin

tensazangetsu20:
That's the map of the benin empire. Stop twisting the facts or post another map that shows the benin empire having influence on then south east and south south parts of Nigeria. The south east was never under any empire.

my friend we both have internet acess. that map was gotten from benin kingdom wiki page.
What wiki clearly states as kingdom of benin , you are trying to twist to support your argument?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Benin

tensazangetsu20:
That's the extent of the benin empire at the height of its power. Which part of south south and south east again

that map shows the Benin kingdom not the Benin Empire. ..


below is the definition of an empire

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire

tensazangetsu20:
South east was never under the Benin empire. Don't twist history and facts abeg.

i laugh in spanish. ..


FYI the area known as lagos island was under the Benin Empire too...

tensazangetsu20:
The empires were doing just fine. The natives weren't asked for any permission before being forced into this shithole they call Nigeria. The British should come back and take responsibility for the shithole they created as it's obvious no one understands what they have done.

you want us to exist as villages? cos that was what was then...
or maybe empires...
when the whole SE and SS was under the Benin Empire...
the northern empire backed by foot soldiers from Mali, senegal and Northern africa trying to wipe out the SW

tensazangetsu20:
The British should come back and rule Nigeria since they created it . As for the biafran war, I am tired of hearing the same old stories over and over again. It's now boring. My forefathers were never present during the amalgamation. Before the white men came, weren't the ethnic nations existing?

you want us to exist as villages? cos that was what was then...

or maybe empires...

when the whole SE and SS was under the Benin Empire...

the northern empire backed by foot soldiers from Mali, senegal and Northern africa trying to wipe out the SW

classy but looks like golf karts.

tensazangetsu20:
Yes but being diverse is also a major problem. A country that is almost 100 percent homogenous would be able to tackle this corrupt leaders easily but you can't in an extremely diverse nation as they would always play the tribal card. Rwanda is working because it's almost completely homogenous. The hutus and tutsis speak the same language and were just words used to different people in the past based on the wealth they had

theory is different from practicals...

if we were to divide Nigeria along tribal and ethnic lines we would have close to 50 new countries....

why do you think the british almagamated Nigeria?

they saw the fragility in individuality and more viability and strength in diversity?

Ojukwu who clamored for secession of the then eastern region, you think he is a fool ?

some account states that he felt had a negotiable instrument - oil and thereby was in a stronger position to dictate to the government at the center which was led by Gowon.

Ojukwu felt he had more claim to being head of state than gowon coupled with killings of Igbos in the north. He declared biafra which was the eastern region under his command.

this is a game of resources, personal ambition albeit selfishness which again leads to my earlier point...

tensazangetsu20:
Cameroon has over 200 tribes and civil war is almost looming. The English have been continuously marginalised and want their own country. What started as protests turned into people carrying arms. Gabon is also a very poor example to use. Poverty is also very rampant and the country is very diverse too as there are over 50 tribes.

welĺ that means in the case of Gabon you partially corroborated my point....

Gabon is a smaller country but still struggles because the family and cronies of the ruling present/past presidents view Gabon's commonwealth as their private property.

my point is greed!!!! corruption!!!! self centeredness!!! is the bane of the black africa goverments.

theoldpretender:
Actually, the oil money cannot feed all of us.

If we want to be well fed, we have to follow Mr Aigbeni prescription and manufacture what the world needs.

Saudi, Dubai, Norway are well fed by their oil money. They also have populations less than 20million people each. Do the math.

i read several of your analysis...

only if we had a million people like you, Nigeria would have become a better place....

poseidon12:
Thank you for posting the link. It seems you have a problem with comprehension. The article you posted is the opinion of one Mr Paul Orie, Editor-in-Chief, West Coast Trader. In his article, he spoke against Regionalism, but he called for True and Genuine Federalism where States can generate their own funds instead of going to Abuja every month to collect a handout. In effect, he is calling for resource control (how can you generate your funds without controlling your resources?).
He also stated clearly that Nigeria only made progress in the '60s.
So the article actually supports my position. The article is obviously in support of restructuring.
Go back and read the article again. Or is it that you don't understand what restructuring is all about? Can you state why you are against restructuring?

i have a problem with comprehension but i have been able to go through the mass of hodge Podge watered down recycled theory based clichés you have labored in putting together which in itself portrays your mental laziness in not being able to think through and through the holes in your arguments ...


You that have an excellent comprehension please quote in my previous posts where i argued against resource control or true federalism for that matter?

your problem is you feel your views are fool proof but i have full proofs that proves that you running in the same circles and yet not realising it like an unimproved fool.

firstly, you chattering about systems... what use are systems when results are determined more by the intrinsic quality of the people who run this system

secondly, what system is there in the world that is without its own merits and demerits.

But since you sir is a mr i too know, i leave you swimming in the pool of self deluge and arrogance.

Movinwealth:
I suspect u are also an illiterate. ..EFCC is able to apprehend most of this looters just because of the BVN initiative.
Whether the holder is literate or illiterate is irrelevant. It serves as instrument of investigation for govtm.
and it protects the person to whom it was issued from fraudsters. Simple

i am sure if your wife gives birth this year you would list it as Buhari's goverment achievement.

issoright kontinu

Movinwealth:
I suspect u are also an illiterate. ..EFCC is able to apprehend most of this looters just because of the BVN initiative.
Whether the holder is literate or illiterate is irrelevant. It serves as instrument of investigation for govtm.
and it protects the person to whom it was issued from fraudsters. Simple

this is Nigeria where ordinary simple central banking policies are listed as achievements of the Head of state or president.

i have nothing to say to you. click and read

https://www.internationallawoffice.com/Newsletters/Banking/Nigeria/TRLPLAW/CBN-introduces-bank-verification-numbers

poseidon12:
Go and read and enlighten yourself on why and how the civil war happened. Stop exposing your ignorance. For Nigeria to start developing, like it did in the '60s, there must be restructuring with resource control. There must be Fiscal Federalism. For your information, call for restructuring is not the same as call for secession. The Unitary system we are practicing is keeping us from making progress.

Nigeria developed in the 60s?

i dont have nothing to say to you. click and read.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/06/return-regional-structure/

ogedengbeakogun:
That's true cos the intellectuals among us are still hungry dolts, cheap sell outs... No ideology or collective philosophical reasoning... If you call a gathering of Nigerian intellectual submit on way forward..ita an overused non effectual English dem go dey yarn.. Submitting papers upandan just to improve there pay grades

our problem is practicality...

we have engineers that havent invented the most simple of implements that can better the common man's everyday life....


we have so many professors but little true professionals ...

ogedengbeakogun:
The problem is my Yoruba pple who re so scared as per where to start from... Lily livered prayer warriors, we've used all our lives to acquire education that will eventually become useless in this kind of country... It's now our eyes re clearing that.. It's not just acquisition of education that guarantee a sure future... Hence, the reason why we defend all sort of failures all our lives just so we can eat nd pay bills...

dont tell me you belong to this school of thought....


the self entitlement school of thought...


the i am educated so i deserve to be rich even if i dont use my knowledge to create wealth school of thought....

the lazy Nigerian youth school of thought....


when you say yoruba people be specific...There are yoruba people all over the world...speak for yourself and yourself alone

if seun didn't work to start Nairaland, i doubt if he would be financially well off than he is right now...

ogedengbeakogun:
Then if there is such... Restructuring is the best thing in such a scenario..... Nationality no be by force... Serbia/Montenegro fought their way out of subservient yoking... Slovenia, Croatia, Ukraine, Georgia... Plenty countries all fought to manage there tradition, culture economy nd fiscal policy.. Go nd look at them today

please dont compare yourselves with white men....


sadly, we are way below the food chain...

Tajbol4splend:
But believe me Nigeria will be better with restructuring, it's like everyone taking care of themselves

dont be naive...

if there is less self centeredness and greed , corruption then it will work but just look all over black africa...

which country is doing well enough?

another point is tribalism

Rwanda has only two tribes and they wan kill themselves for there...

most black men are primitive in their reasoning... they cannot reason beyond tribe...

they cannot aspire for the greater good... just for themselves and their kindreds...even within tribes there are discrimination...within local government areas...within families...not to talk of a country...

Tajbol4splend:
I think restructuring is the best way to stop the cheating and injustices

it would turn chaotic...the reason this country is as it is is because of the love of money and greed...

before oil came Nigerians coexisted in peace. .. as oil came greed came...people lusted after power...war came strife came sense of entitlement came or otherwise, why is the FG looking for oil in the chad basin? so that the north can also lay claim to being an oil producing region afterall that is why threat of secession came to be

...the hope of every secessionist agenda was built and centered on oil not any ideoligical principle...oil producing Cameroon and Gabon has the same presidents for how many years now ? Gabon's current president took over from his father in 2009 after his death. His father ruled for 42 years. Biya nko ruling since 1982 thats about 36 years...has the citizenry fared any better? thats the future of a Nigeria divided along tribal lines....worse off than the current status quo

too much self centeredness and greed...

Tajbol4splend:
NYSC orientation camp

International airport

Good road


Best of these are in the northern Nigeria, I wonder what these people contribute economically to have the best of everything

Military rule ....

the military government mostly of nothern descent annexed the country's funds and developed their areas abandoning the south where the funds originated from.... more reason for the south to wise up and be sincere in making developmental plans to improve its region instead of embezzling - Ibori &co....

one of my grouse with GEJ while he was president was instead of focusing on a good developmental plan for the south south, he was busy building almajiri schools in the north and sharing the loot amongst the elites loyal to him....

Firefire:
Eyah! Congrats & don’t forget to return to your cows next year. Thank you sir!


You have failed in all your fake promises. Too bad!

goodluck brought pvc and bvn?


Most Nigerians are semi iliterates and it doesn't matter if you have a Bsc too...the level of knowledge is just so low...

TMemos:
How do you know she's saying the truth?

Let's stop granting them the attention they seek by casting aspersion on an entire group on a claim which may not be true

lol

you would be surprised at what guys can do.

amaniro:
these people are thieves.



Ekiti please vote the best,.



oriji, my brother am ashamed of you.

stop deceiving yourself. Orji doesn't know you.

There are only two tribes in Nigeria - the rich and the poor...

poor people focus on your own lives and find better ways to improve it instead of wasting your time defending the wealthy and financially secured.

i expected someone to blame Buhari for this...
#lazynigerianyouths

Sharpshooota:


The majority of people doing this are yorubas
Believe me
These are the same people that fayose is putting his life on the line to liberate from the Fulani...

But trust the Yoruba Muslims to make a mockery of the situation

re read your comments.... oh my!

if i insult you you stil wont get the point

Sharpshooota:
Afonja Amaka

lmao


this una rivalry sha...na wa o....

oluwaseyi000:
... the sad realities is that our elite are too smart that they carve a wicked system that favours only them irrespective of the divide - they always win. don't be surprise to see fayemi in pdp or fayose in apc

gbam!!!!!!

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