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Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Nobody: 9:25am On Nov 18, 2013 |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Nobody: 9:29am On Nov 18, 2013 |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Nobody: 9:32am On Nov 18, 2013 |
Tgal, thanks for that info. CC, suprisingly, married women abort more than single ladies. Walk into three or four well know private clinics. U will be shocked! |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Nobody: 9:37am On Nov 18, 2013 |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Obinoscopy(m): 9:38am On Nov 18, 2013 |
chaircover: Thanks ObinaThere's no stipulated period between engagement and actual wedding. It could be a day or could be for eternity or in between. But I'm totally against the two extremes (ie one day or infinity years). I believe the duration between the engagement and the marriage should not exceed 3 years. Personally I think the ideal is 6 to 12 months. However if the intending couples can know the important things about each other (sexual compatibility inclusive) before 6 months, then they can go ahead and tie the nuptial knot. |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by pickabeau1: 10:04am On Nov 18, 2013 |
Tgirl4real: nice one... Interestin on the abortion debate I no know say married dey abort eh.. dem tell me say u no count dey pikin for married woman all na GOD |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Tgirl4real(f): 2:42pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
yellowpawpaw: Tgal, thanks for that info. Lol Because they can actually walk in there legally with their hubby, unlike d singles. Most hospitals don't even abort except for medical reasons - evacuation. And the topic "should abortion be legalised" would have been a very good and controversial one. Lol |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Tgirl4real(f): 2:46pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
pickabeau1: I was shocked myself after I got married hearing married people talk about it like it's no biggie. We had such a thread here where the hubby said their baby is yet to be 1 or just 1 and the wifey had aborted 3x cos they didn't want another baby yet. Lol |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by pickabeau1: 3:53pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
me sef i trip oo My peeps around me cannot fathom If e show, na God do am... Guess they are still traditional folks Tgirl4real: |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Nobody: 5:50pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Results? |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by jaybee3(m): 5:56pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Results
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Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by jaybee3(m): 5:57pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Results well done guys
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Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Nobody: 6:17pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by ayobase(m): 8:19pm On Nov 18, 2013 |
Though disappointed, but relieved! Nice job the judges. Tgirl, u gat a great husband. Debaters, wishing u d best. May d best win. Cc, I dey feel u. Goodnight! |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Tgirl4real(f): 12:39am On Nov 19, 2013 |
Congrats to all contestant. |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by ifyalways(f): 11:23am On Nov 19, 2013 |
This result na real shocker. Welldone to everyone. PS: Can the contestants use an alternate handle going forward. It will eliminate bias and the usual nld groupies. |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Sagamite(m): 12:49pm On Nov 19, 2013 |
I am surprised Contestant 5 and 6 did not dominate in this round despite a very strong opening round. |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Nobody: 12:54pm On Nov 19, 2013 |
Sagamite: I am surprised Contestant 5 and 6 did not dominate in this round despite a very strong opening round. It's not the same contestant numbers from the opening round. |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Tgirl4real(f): 4:08pm On Nov 19, 2013 |
Sagamite: I am surprised Contestant 5 and 6 did not dominate in this round despite a very strong opening round. Contestant 5 of this round is still contestant 5 of the last round, but contestant 6 of the last round is contestant 1 for this round. The nos change.. |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Sagamite(m): 8:09pm On Nov 19, 2013 |
Okay o. |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by TV01(m): 12:17am On Nov 21, 2013 |
Hmmm....would've thought -and quite liked - for the wider discussion to continue. Presumably input is now open to all? Obinoscopy: @Chaircover I had to quote the coodinators's post for you to have a grasp of the context of the debate. From a societal point of view, this position is patently unworkable. Sex before marriage is sex before marriage. And even the merest consideration makes it pretty clear that you can't restrict it to those "intending to marry". I touched on this point in my submission. The human condition and peoples tendencies are clear, once you open the door, it's a slippery slope. To wit; How would you enforce this? Especially given as people are increasingly repudiating religious stricture and societal norms. It would at best apply to a few "well-intentioned" (although ill-advised) believers. What of those who consider their relationship committed or permanent, with marriage being a possibility, but by no means certain and possibly not in the near future. Westerners often have long engagements. SBM for 5 + years?You would be simply unable to draw or enforce a line for this. Look at abortion and abortifacients (morning-after type pills). It was claimed they would only be used in extreme case of danger to mothers health, rape etc. They are now routinely used as everyday birth control, period! Obinoscopy: Wrong, most couples want children after the nuptials. Whether that be due to the stigma or just not being ready/settled in the run up or just after marriage. It would probably lead to contraception, which is in itself dangerous for women. Men rarely take responsibility here. Obinoscopy: Unbiblical. The marriage bed is undefiled. The only biblically legitimate context for intimacy is between man and wife. It's worth noting that a biblical betrothal was not like our modern day engagements. There was no going back. Hence Josephs mind to "put her away". You can't divorce someone you are not married too. Again this would be held by only a few hard-core believers. I opened my submission acknowledging the fact that people are increasingly moving away from religious stricture. You can't make it the mainstay of your position - although a noteworthy reference - in this debate. Obinoscopy: It is hoped/expected. But this is not certain even for the religious. Plus deception is a real possibility, which is something you yourself allude to, as I'll point out next. Obinoscopy: Here you repudiate your own point of "After all, they will eventually get married", because clearly "verification" has to take place prior to marriage in the model you propose and failure means "end-of". People can pretend sexually as well as other ways. Like everyone else that proposes testing you fail to -or ignore - some obvious considerations; How does one acquire the competency to test? Sebi na virgin? What does one test for? Thrust power, girth spm (strokes per minute), what? Let me leave out WTB's own for modesty' sake! How long? Presumably you'd have to practice and perform What prompts sign-off? Consistent heavenly feeling? Multiple HF? Delivery of a bouncing baby boy? It means the potential to call off due to non-verification is unlimited. It's a charter for permissiveness and always pushed by those who were probably wanton. Unrepentantly so and hate being convicted. Obinoscopy: Another falsehood; Firstly, even were there is mutual desire and affection. It has to be worked at and sex "evolves between couples. Secondly, there is understanding/education/counselling for poor form or style. That's why you get with someone who cares and is committed as they will make the effort to satisfy you. Thirdly, marrying a "CC" means they will not put their satisfaction first. All this "I must test, I must test" is about self-serving types, who typically can't put sex in context, short or long term. Fourthly, at best it's a snapshot. Life tends to happen in a marriage. Listen to the guy lamenting about schedules "dulling his dongle". What has that to do with compatibility? Circumstances, situations, stress, illness, pregnancy and birth - i.e. Life - will all impact a couples dynamic when it comes to love-making. Couples typically smooth and manage their sex lives as best they can. That's why you get a CC. If sexual compatibility is key, is divorce in view if it disappears, short or long-term? Fifthly, great sex does not make a marriage and won't of itself save one. After a point it can't have more than marginal value. Sixthly, let me rest jor! TV |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by DesChyko1(m): 6:34am On Nov 21, 2013 |
Chai.. I'm totally infuriated with my self for not being here.. Crystal-clear short essays that are easily to peruse assimilate.. This is presentations are absolutely enlightening. I really missed something here. Una weldone o, even as una greet judge, greet unasef, greet Iyabo, greet Nkechi, but una no greet me, I forgive una. Still, my critic eye no gree me rest. See Bleep-ups wey I observe. 1. Construct ya topic so e go directly reflect wetin you dey support without showing ya opponent own. 2. Because una just dey do 'copy' and 'paste', some of una work just resemble. E no too bam like that. 3. Which one come be bulleting and numbering of the points again? That one na dulling on top essay. Number werin you quote, not your points. 4. No dey abuse the bold option. If you use am for title, e don do. 5. We go school. If we see conclusion, we go know. You no need type am join ya essay. |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Tgirl4real(f): 7:29am On Nov 21, 2013 |
Lol @ Deschyko. @ TV01, I gueess discussion continues. |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Nobody: 7:37am On Nov 21, 2013 |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by TV01(m): 9:27pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
chaircover: Please what is "CC" "Caring and Committed" for the purpose of the debate - not to infringe on your copyrighted version ! chaircover: TV this your grammar sef I've stepped it down small na . Where are the champions of wanton permissiveness? Totally ignoring the heartache, pain, suffering and destruction that usually ensues after SBM. TV |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Nobody: 9:58pm On Nov 21, 2013 |
TV pls don't step it down. Me likey. Its ur signature. I hv my dictionary anytime I'm going tru ur posts. Lexicology 102 continues! U guys r xceptional. |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Tgirl4real(f): 8:21am On Nov 22, 2013 |
yellowpawpaw: TV pls don't step it down. Me likey. Lol |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by SisiKill1: 4:34pm On Nov 22, 2013 |
From a societal point of view, this position is patently unworkable. Sex before marriage is sex before marriage. And even the merest consideration makes it pretty clear that you can't restrict it to those "intending to marry". I touched on this point in my submission. The human condition and peoples tendencies are clear, once you open the door, it's a slippery slope. To wit; EXACTLY!!!!! While I think what every adult does in the privacy of their bedroom is their own business, I don't think trying to differentiate what one is doing by calling it something else....makes any difference. SEX IS SEX IS SEX!!! In my opinion, the best defense for having sex premarital or no-marital should be - BECAUSE I WANNA! Now I know that sounds a bit rebellious or self serving but honestly the truth is that's what it's all about. It's not about test driving or getting to know you partner better or whatever else, it is simply because you want too and if you are comfortable with your decision? Why not?! |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Tgirl4real(f): 1:28pm On Nov 23, 2013 |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Nobody: 3:46pm On Nov 23, 2013 |
Good job mods Its good to see all these 'arguing' skills put to constructive use |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by Tgirl4real(f): 6:50pm On Nov 23, 2013 |
salsera: Good job mods Thanks dear. Semi final is coming up soon. |
Re: Family Section Debate - Stage 2 (quater Final) by isalegan2: 7:07pm On Nov 23, 2013 |
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