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Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 8:39am On Oct 23, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20:you are one ignorence muslims, i dont even know what to called you again,do you realy think the true God will leave his children to hell until judgment day?the hadith say ALLAH HAS FORBIDING THE MARK OF PROSTRATION TO BURN, BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS, WHO HAS THE MARK OF PROSTRATION? If it's an agument that jesus prostrait, you will agree that muslims are the one that prostraite, now that prostraition did not favour you, you are denying it now. |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:27am On Oct 23, 2014 |
malvisguy212: islam has been perfected you are the one that should chill read my posts i explain the hadith for you look @ numer 1 it is explanatrory the second one some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the TRACES OF PROSTRATION, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons. READ THE HADITH AGAIN MR MAN GO AND READ THE DAY OF RESURRECTION IN ISLAM LET ME EXPLAIN THE ABOVE FOR YOU the hadith says'some of them' after all who dont accept muhammad as prophets have been thrown in fire and the followers of ll prophetd pass the bridge JUST THINK WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL FALL TO FIRE AMONG THIS UMMAH THIS ARE THE PEOPLE WHO PRAY BUT NOT ALL THE TIME LET ME JUST SUMMARISE IT THOSE WHO ACCEPT ISLAM BUT NOT TOTALLY THEY WILL BE IN HELL BUT ALMIGHTY ALLAH IN HIS INFINITE MERCY WILL SAVE THEM FROM IT LATER BUT THEY WILL FIRST BE PUNISHED........READ THE HADITH FURTHER THOSE WHO HAVE PROSTRATED...... WHEN YOU PRAY AND PROSTRATE YOU WILL HAVE SOME SIGN IN YOUR HEAD AND I prove it to you earlier that even jesus and all other prophet do that but not all muslims that claim they are muslim are totally practicing it those who practice islam but not totally allah will still forgive them because they recognise the beloved prophet IF YOU ARE TOTALLY MUSLIM YOU WILL CROSS THE BRIDGE WITHIN THE TWINKLE OF AN EYE I WILL QUOTE SOME HADITH FOR YOU CONCERNING THE AS SIRAT BRIDGE |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Abdulsalam20(m): 9:47am On Oct 23, 2014 |
THE SIRAT BRIDGE The al-sirat is a long and narrow bridge that everyone will have to pass through before entering Heaven. It is believed to be a “bridge over Hell”. The Quran does not say anything about this bridge, except in Surah Maryam, which could possibly be referring to the bridge. In that verse it says, "There is not one of you ...but will pass over it: this is, with your Lord, a decree which must be accomplished" (Surah 19:71). It has been said that this bridge will be a reflection of ones life in this Dunyia. the more a person saves himself from evil actions the more it will be easier for him to pass over it. Judgement day on whole is going to be very hard but particularly this time will be harder than any other time.Thats why we do special Dua for the strength and help of ALLAH swt while crossing it. HOW IT LOOKS LIKE: Narrated by Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri: We, the companions of the Prophet said, "O Allah's Apostle! What is the bridge?' He said, "It is a slippery (bridge) on which there are clamps and (Hooks like) a thorny seed that is wide at one side and narrow at the other and has thorns with bent ends. Such a thorny seed is found in Najd and is called As-Sa'dan. Some of the believers will cross the bridge as quickly as the wink of an eye, some others as quick as lightning, a strong wind, fast horses or she- camels. So some will be safe without any harm; some will be safe after receiving some scratches, and some will fall down into Hell. The last person will cross by being dragged over the bridge." (Sahih Bukhari- Volume 9, Book 93, Number 532) WHO WILL BE THE FIRST TO CROSS IT? Prophet pbuh said, The Sirat Bridge will be set over Hell. The first prophet who will cross it with his nation will be I. [Bukhari] Then a bridge will be laid over the (Hell) Fire." Allah's Apostle added, "I will be the first to cross it. And the invocation of the Apostles on that Day, will be 'Allahukka Sallim, Sallim (O Allah, save us, save us!),' and over that bridge there will be hooks Similar to the thorns of As Sa'dan (a thorny tree). Didn't you see the thorns of As-Sa'dan?" The companions said, "Yes, O Allah's Apostle." He added, "So the hooks over that bridge will be like the thorns of As-Sa-dan except that their greatness in size is only known to Allah. These hooks will snatch the people according to their deeds. Some people will be ruined because of their evil deeds, and some will be CUT INTO PIECES AND FALL DOWN IN HELL, but will be saved afterwards, when Allah has finished the judgments among His slaves, and intends to take out of the Fire whoever He wishes to take out from among those who used to testify that none had the right to be worshipped but Allah.” (Sahi Bukhari- Volume 8, Book 76, Number 577) THREE KINDS OF HELP A BELIEVER WILL GET ON SIRAT BRIDGE: 1. RASOOLALLAH s.a.w.w: On the Day of Resurrection I will stand by the side of the Sirat Bridge and wait for my nation to cross it. Allahu ta'ala will say, "Ask for whatever you want. Intercede for whomever you wish, for your intercession will be accepted." After interceding for my nation, I will continue entreating, and I will not rise to my feet until He says, "Put all people into Paradise who said La ilaha ill-Allah once with ikhlas and died with faith.) [Imam-i Ahmad] 2. THE LIGHT OF ONES GOOD DEEDS: Crossing the Sirat Bridge depends on everybody's light. Some will cross it in the twinkling of an eye; some, like lightning; some, like a falling star; some, like a running horse. He who has very little light will creep facedown. His hands and feet will slip, and he will cling to it again. At long last, he will break free from it by creeping and creeping.) [Tabarani] 3. ANGELS: People will cross the bridge that will be over Hell. On the bridge will be thorny iron, hooks, and clasps, which will catch people from the right and left. The angels on the bridge will pray, "O my Allah, give salvation." Some will cross the bridge like lightning; some, like the wind; some, like a running horse; some, by running; some, by walking; some, by crawling; some, by creeping. As for those who will go to Hell, they will neither die nor attain a new life. After sinners burn in Hell as much as their sins, intercession for them [sinners] will be permitted.) [Bukhari] The Sirat is thinner than a hair and sharper than a sword. Angels will try hard to save Believers. Jabrail 'alaihis-salam will grip my waist, and I will pray, "O my Lord! Give salvation to my nation and rescue them." On that day many people who will slip and fall.) [Bayhaqi] AFTER CROSSING SIRAT BRIDGE: When Believers cross the Sirat, they will come across two springs. They will have a bath from one of the springs and will drink from the other. Thus, after attaining material and spiritual purity, they will come to the gate of Paradise. Angels will say, as it is stated in Zumar Sura,"Peace be upon you. Welcome! Enter here eternally." Then they will be clothed garments of Paradise, and all of them will go into Paradise. INSHALLAH!! insha allah paradise is for all muslim ummah malvisguy212 dont say anything out of ignorance |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 11:29am On Oct 23, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20:the quran has done sooo much harm to your spiritual knowlegd,only God can set you free from this spell,you still believe God will set a bridge between life and death , hades and enternal life? My good friend,once you enter hell,there is no second chance ,this is the grace christ jesus has giving to you, repent and be save,the story of lazarus and the rich man,abraham say,no one can cross from hell to heaven Luke 16:26 Translations King James Version (KJV) And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: SO THAT THEY WHICH WOULD PASS FROM HENCE TO YOU CANNOT; NEITHER CAN THEY PASS TO US THAT WOULD COME FROM THENCE. Allah even promies heaven to christians. Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians and the Christians whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve. Qur'an 5:69. |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Abdulsalam20(m): 4:50pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
malvisguy212: you dont even know what to write again you quote 5:69 1:69 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Sabians and the Christians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness,- on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. did you believe in the quran? did you believe in allah? did you believe in the last day you are immate of hell DONT STRESS YOURSELF MAN! ISLAM HAS BEEN PERFECTED YOU CAN NOT PROVE ANYTHING WRONG IN IT THAT IS WHY YOU HAVENT PROVE ME WRONG SINCE THE BEGINING OF ALL THREAD ITS BETTER YOU REPENT YOU DIDNT PROVE ANYTHING WRONG IN WHAT I HAVE POSTED YOU JUST KEPT MISQUOTING QURAN AND HADITH DONT STRESS YOURSELF YOU CANT PROVE ANYTHING WRONG IN ISLAM IT IS A PERFECTED RELIGION |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 5:54pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20:so what you are saying is this"allah dont know the christians believe God has a son before he promiese them heaven?" can you explain this two verses bellow? Sura 5:72-73, 5:75 “They do blaspheme who say: “God is Christ the son of Mary.” They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three in a trinity: for there is no God except one God Allah. If they do not desist from their word of blasphemy, verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. Christ the son of Mary was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him.” this verse teaches that the christians blaspheme that God has a son and trinity. but another verse teaches that the same christians who blaspheme in the first verse up front are not to worried. Qur'an 2:62. Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve. |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by BossTtdiamonds(m): 6:09pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
yazach: Yes I can see that clearly... Keep wallowin' in ignorance... The bolded reveals a lot 'bout you... |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by BossTtdiamonds(m): 6:14pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: Since you'll keep actin' dumb, I'll help you out... The thread I was suppossed to reply to, both yours and Rilwayne's was in the Islam section... after I had typed my rebuttal I clicked reply only to see a funny pop up message... (this you know very much).. I click no.. And was taken back to the homepage.. The End.. So now you know.... |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by BossTtdiamonds(m): 6:18pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: Already replied tis'..... |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by BossTtdiamonds(m): 6:20pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: Typical of your person.. Wasn't expectin' much from you though... You've never lived up to expectation anywayz... |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by BossTtdiamonds(m): 6:31pm On Oct 23, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: If you had articulated your statement properly..maybe I'd understand what it is exactly you're tryin' to say... I'm not on my PC now.. Maybe when I get on my PC... I'll show you your flaws... When you see your flaws you might just become a little bit logical... |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:38am On Oct 25, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: he's right............but you guys will not listen look @ many thread i posted how many hve u prove wrong............even on this thread you should bail malvis out |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:42am On Oct 25, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: AT TIMES WHEN WE SEE THE TRUTH WE TEND TO IGNORE IT GO TO THE THREAD AND READ OUR DISUSSION |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Abdulsalam20(m): 6:54am On Oct 25, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: YOU SHOULD HAVE OPEN ANOTHER THREAD OR another ac to reply and even u clicing yes is nt much since what is in ur heart matters |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Abdulsalam20(m): 7:31am On Oct 25, 2014 |
malvisguy212: like i have always tell you mr man islam is perected look @ the stres you've been giving ur self still not a single verse you can prove wrong in the quran as usual i will explain this for you 1:72 They do blaspheme who say: "(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. this verse is telling you what jesus tell you but you misunterpret him even evident in the bible jesus never claim he is a begotten son of god or god he claim he is son of man 83 times in the bible and claim he is ap prophet THERE FORE FIRE WILL BE YOUR ABODE your next allegation 1:62 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. this means anyone who acept islam explanation if you believe in ALLAH(GOD) you will believe in his last and final messenger prephesised in the bible 2 you will believe in the quran 3 you will pray AS ALL PROPHET IN THE BIBLE PRAY 4 you will go to hajj as prophesised in the bible 3.you will pay zakat(offering) as in your book 4 you will fast with muslims all this are qualities of a muslim! for you to be righteous it has been defined in the uran It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness- to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the Allah-fearing. (2:177) THIS IS CLEARLY TALING AOUT THE SIX ARTICLES OF FAITH GOD DIDNT PROMISE CHRISTIAN HEAVEN EXCEPTR THEY FOLLOWQ THE PATH OF ALL PROPHET AND NOT PAUL MALVIS AM TELLING YOU ONCE AGAIN ISLAM HHAS BEEN PERFECTED NO QUESTION CAN BE LEFT UN ANSEWRED |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by BossTtdiamonds(m): 9:07am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: I laugh much at the bolded... I guess that's how those Jihadist who go 'bout bombin' people are brainwashed... You think I'd deny my faith because of an argument..?? Clearly you're Jokin'.... Open another thread? You think I have that much time...to open a thread that you'll flood with commentaries that dont relate to the subject matter.. If you had been more logical probably I would have, but reverse is the case. |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by BossTtdiamonds(m): 9:09am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: What does tis' have to do with anythin'....?? |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by BossTtdiamonds(m): 9:14am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Abdulsalam20: Read what you've posted and see if you're makin' any sense...?? I wonder if you're at all educated... |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by malvisguy212: 10:07am On Oct 25, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:God bless you.it is now i know that am chattinng with someone with no understanding of God word. He said"if you are a christian and you accept islam teaching allah will save you" abdulsalam20. What you are saying is......am a christian,i go to church,i pray in the name of jesus i believe jesus died for My sin,YET i accept islam teaching i will be save.do you now see how senseless your post is? I will not respond to you again, thank you for your time |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Abdulsalam20(m): 11:30am On Oct 25, 2014 |
malvisguy212: your stupidity is at its peak any rjght thinking christian will understand what i wrote some right thinking christian just converted to islam yesterday night after listening to yusuf adepoju lecture yesterday night in ilorin repent before its too late i defined what being righteous mean from the verse of the quran 1:72 They do blaspheme who say: "(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong- doers be no one to help. even jesus have tell you Mathew 7:21-24 “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock” therefore you are going to hell am still expecting you to reply in the threads you ran away from oooooooo |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Nobody: 11:52am On Oct 25, 2014 |
Your brain suld be developed to know the difference between signs and miracles. You want to beleive Jesus by demanding signs from him, but remember that there shall be no signs given to this generation. You are just like the Jews who demanded for sign; like turning the sun black, making the cloud dissappear. The only signs U will have was in the days of Jonah the prophet. Faithless generation demanding for a sign. Power without control can be powerless. What you have just siad makes you to think the same like satan. Thou shall indeed not tempt the Lord thy God. Drinking acid is unnessesary because you intentionaly did it and U are responsible for it. But when acid is drunk accidentially you can receive help from above and U can survive it. Power must not be misuse. But when you are armed for battle, you will know how power operates. If you tempt God you will miss it. Power must be implemented on neccesity but not unnecessity. I meet you in grace and I live you with the same. I live you here. AMEN! |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by BossTtdiamonds(m): 4:03pm On Oct 25, 2014 |
bambeolumide: Oh! My God dude... Tis' deserves an oscar.... |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Rilwayne001: 8:03pm On Oct 25, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: Okay |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by BossTtdiamonds(m): 8:56pm On Oct 25, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: You failed much on school didn't you..... Plus why'd you pay 5K to get your project done.. Too dumb to write your project yourself..?? |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Rilwayne001: 9:38pm On Oct 25, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds: LOL! I actually wrote my project myself, but our lecturers are corrupted that you have to pay 5k before your project will be approved. Though i did'nt pay 5k to my own supervisor cus he does'nt deem it fit and cus i am one of those good guys in class, i was only joking the other time. But most of my friend payed it to other lecturers.. They won't even crosscheck your works, the 5k has already done that. So i was wondering wether you are one of those corrupt lecturers/teachers. Do you get me now? Meanwhile, i don't want to create thread on this section again, i don't want a situation whereby your brothers will be annoyed with me cus of the new law restricting them in our section. You can create a thread in my name and lets talk about the the sin offering of jesus only if you are still intrested. .... |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by Rilwayne001: 9:45pm On Oct 25, 2014 |
Now i can see your post clearly BossTtdiamonds: Not at all.. Plus why'd you pay 5K to get your project done I did my project myself, but our corrupt lecturers collected money from us before it is approved Too dumb to write your project yourself..?? You are dumb sir …. Cos i wonder how you come into conclusion that i didnt write it myself. |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by yazach: 9:29am On Oct 28, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:So does that mean you agree that you are an anti-christ |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by BossTtdiamonds(m): 12:57pm On Oct 28, 2014 |
yazach: Your level of stupidity intrigues me to no end.... Did you at all make it through school..?? |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by yazach: 2:24pm On Oct 28, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:
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Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by BossTtdiamonds(m): 5:13pm On Oct 28, 2014 |
yazach: You we're so much in a hurry to prove your level of inanity..you posted the picture twice.... You sir are an epitome of vacuousness |
Re: Interesting Conversation Between A Muslim And Christians by yazach: 9:51am On Oct 29, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:This should mean; accepted the information in the picture. Thanks for that |
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