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|Religion / Re: You Africans Have Been Had, Bamboozled Hoodwinked Ganked And Usurped by goshap(m): 3:06pm On May 20|
obadiah777: KEEP DOING THAT GOOD WORK BROTHER. AND CRAZY IS GOOD. WE ARE CRAZY FOR THE LORDhim obadiah..!,good work i doubt that,more like twisted work.
|Violent/Disgusting Non-Celebrity Crimes / Re: The Unvarnished Truth About Money Ritual by goshap(m): 9:20pm On Apr 27|
ghostofsparta: This is a respond to the topic: Debunking The Myth Of Money Ritual: Is It Real?well said
|Religion / Re: Comtemporary Occultist,christain And Satanist. by goshap(m): 8:46pm On Apr 27|
Billyonaire: Para-mental farting and hot air!yea right.
|Religion / Comtemporary Occultist,christain And Satanist. by goshap(m): 6:30pm On Apr 27|
In the light of vigorous misconception and confusion ,I feel the need to clear the air a bit, as I’m lead to. the question is whose an occultist, whose a Satanist and whose is a christain?
an occultist is one who believe in supernatural force, magic ,witchcraft etc.
a Satanist is one who worships Satan, especially in a parody of Christian rites.
A Christian is one who believes in Jesus Christ.
Not really going to create much odor about Christianity, forgive me but I don’t intend to, neither do I intend to go deeply into any particular subject in detailed essence.
Now comtemporary view of an occultist, he/she is one who believe in the supernatural, the extra-ordinary, an occultist is one who possesses knowledge of the universe, nature, he doesn’t just posses it, his aligned with it ,drawn to it, controls it, is influenced ,can be influenced ,by it.
An occultist is a scientist, he studies nature, the universe, causation and effect, his a scientist because he employs all scientific processes, hypothesis, observation, experiment, he adheres to certain formula and believes the law of causation and effect, 1+1=2,a+b=ab. Hardly does he believe that 1+1=11,1+1=110,(there are minor cases of such, especially when not dealt in the physical ).
An occultist is and always will be a religious being ,thing is he adopts it’s from a more different angle, than the typical Christian and Muslim angle, much deeper than the typical Christian and Muslim angle.
Such angle as the believe that he is god, and also that there is a higher God than himself, this higher God goes by many names to him(universe, nature, energy subconscious, mind, force etc. )
Rather than kneel down and pray or hope, he’ll rather apply certain formula (rituals),gotten by his hypothesis, observation and experiment or his experience or that of others, through this formula he hopes to influence a situation, you know the law of what you gives is want you receive, he uses it to a great extent, than an average person, Christian or Muslim.
He influences the unseen in other to create certain effects in the physical scene, typically what differentiate an occultist from a mere man, is the ability to influence the unseen. got me, a mere man is influenced by the unseen /the spiritual aspect, but he rarely influences the unseen, or controls it. an occultist on the other hand is influenced and he controls the unseen ,depending on his level of initiation.
Yea, yea ,yea!, I know the typical Christian would say, he prays and influences the unseen, yes ,you influence it, but an occultist is steps further than you, he exist in the unseen, he tunes into to, he senses it, he is it.
A Christian goes through a channel to get things done, an occult does not really go through a channel, he is the channel, he doesn’t or rarely go through Jesus Christ or the holy spirit. but he believes in them and is acquainted with them on a much more deeper base, he knows he is god, only in certain cases he involves the God higher than himself to intervene. And yes he is influenced by the holy spirit, may or may not believe that Christ is the way the truth and the life, if he does then he sees it in a tool , ritual, formula type of way, the way the Christians believe it only deeper and more strongly way.
Take for example how many Christians actually know the bible is divided into the aspect, based on the method of decoding and interpreting it, I’m guessing only a very minor do, you see a verse in the bible is hidden with coded meanings and interpretations not known to a Christian, in the hands of an occultist its more complex than you think, it’s supposed or is the job of the holy spirit to interpret those verse or the bible to you, that why your asked, to ask for the inspiration an d interpretation of the holy spirit.
The occultist does not ignore the Christ-force, however; he recognizes it as among the hierarchy of
supreme forces of the universe, although he may not be prepared to assign to it the exclusive position
which it occupies in the heart of the Christian . In the Western Tradition it is symbolized by
Tiphareth, the central Sephira of the Ten Holy Sephiroth of the Kabalistic Tree of Life.
Now Satanism is quite a boring aspect, seriously.
A Satanist does not believe in Christ, the holy spirit or God and if he does, his regards for them is blasphemy!, just as Christianity is said to be a religion of light ,Satanism is dark, everything opposing to the Christian, yea that’s Satanism. Best part is Satan is worshiped as a God . their different type of Satanist mostly differentiated based on their believe in Satan.
Case 1 :- a Satanist who believes in Satan as a deity, in other words he believes in Satan, objectively and subjectively. to this case of Satanist, Satan is a deity to be worshiped, a force to be reconciled with, to him Satan is a possibly visibly entity or manifestation. You know the way Christian believes that Christ died on the cross of Calvary and is alive, existing objectively primarily in heaven .it’s the same way case 1 believes in Satan.
Case 2 :-to this Satanist, Satan appears on a subjective term, never objective, to him Satan is not an entity or deity to be worshiped, Satan to him exist as an aspect, dimension of himself ,mostly evil, closely related to an occultist cause an occultist would associated Satan as a symbol or representation for evil ,bad, darkness and Jesus as a symbol for good, light ,symbolically. different between the two is that, case 2 Satanist adhere to Satan as an identity, a self consciousness his associated or choose to be associated to, but an occultist usually plays both cards it’s all about the symbol to him and intention, rarely taken as an identity. Case 2 Satanist also believes that he is god, that is he is Satan, an occultist also believes that too, to an occultist it’s all about balance, while he believes in God(probable),he believes he is god.
Cased3:-aka the luciferian Satanist, this case of Satanist believe in Satan as an angel of light, as his name implies, to him Satan is not necessarily a symbol or deity for evil, and does not represent evil, Satan is good ,holy and the whole 9 yards, if you get the deal ,luciferians tend to focus on Satan the based on his prime in heaven before he was thrown down to earth, case scenario Satan/Lucifer is an angel of light. under luciferian their also two cases, just refer to case 1 and case 2 Satanist.
Thing is an occultist involves in rituals, so does the Satanist difference is a Satanist involves most or greatly in rituals that is blasphemous to the Christian rites/ritual, a Satanist primary aim is to mock the Christian God, and become an anti Christian type of person, a real occultist does not involve in rituals to mock any deity or God, to him Gods are deity, forces(list goes on) he understand, depending on the aspect the occultist focus on.
Truth is different between a Satanist and an occultist is more on the moral ground, and flexibility, a Satanist has taken on an identity, inform with his activity which are greatly a back slap to a pure Christian way. An occultist takes on no identity, but he can if he chooses to.
while difference between an occultist and a Christian more on flexibility ,advancement and tools.
And the difference between a Satanist and a Christian is more like the scenario of light and darkness, opposite sides.
Thing is an occultist is more complex than either the Satanist and the Christian
|Religion / Re: Dont Follow Jesus. Following Jesus Is Idolatry by goshap(m): 3:39am On Apr 13|
obadiah777: THIS IS WHY IT IS A SIN TO MAKE ANY GRAVEN IMAGES TO THE MAN. EXODUS 20 VS 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above,no arguement from me!.
|Religion / Re: What Will Be The Fate Of Those Mentally Challenged on Judgement Day? by goshap(m): 1:09am On Apr 08|
obadiah777: ERMM 777, GET IT RIGHT. 7 IS THE NUMBER FOR COMPLETION.3,is the number of completion,7 is a divine number,and u should knw 7+7+7=2+1=3,so in a way ur number sums at 3,which standz 4 completion n balance.obadiah777 is someelse.
|Religion / Re: Beware Of False Teachers Parading Themselves Here On This Forum by goshap(m): 11:08pm On Apr 05|
honey001:trust me if i wer ,i'll remap ur brain,stil can jst dnt want to b held responcible on judgement day.
|Religion / Re: Beware Of False Teachers Parading Themselves Here On This Forum by goshap(m): 11:05pm On Apr 05|
Pygru:then in all ur almighty wisdom and knowledge,where u dump obadiah777 ,the most obvious of all.
|Religion / Re: Beware Of False Teachers Parading Themselves Here On This Forum by goshap(m): 10:48pm On Apr 05|
Yooguyz: broda goshen if your message and posts does not carry anointing, then you are making noise! Your posts ought to impact the readersno it doesnt,its meant to inspire and point u in the right direction,teach u stuff,and open ur mind,dont carry ur problems.
|Religion / Re: Beware Of False Teachers Parading Themselves Here On This Forum by goshap(m): 10:46pm On Apr 05|
Yooguyz: @Goshen, i can understand that you have the call of god in your life, and i have been following your posts religiously, they are very illuminating such that the bring out the various shades of interpretation attached to scripture.But on the other hand, you post lacks something!u mean he lacks charismatic spirit,well sorry to burst ur bubble bt tat vigoritiness ur askn 4 cums frm an out of control self,a need to prove ,by fire by force self
when a person posseses the right measure of knowledge,their usually calm,confident,they just state their fact and watch trace the line,but when a person is lieing,or posses an inadqute knowledge on a matter he/she feels the need to makeup,by been blunt or charismatic in the hope it will mak up for his or her inadquasy.
|Religion / Re: Beware Of False Teachers Parading Themselves Here On This Forum by goshap(m): 10:30pm On Apr 05|
honey001: I have read so many topics on religion section on this forum, a lot of so called believers here are false teachers of the word of God, going by their various posts and comments, i wont mention anybody in particular, as they know themselves. what am after is for the real believers to actually know what they belief so that they will not be carried away with erroneous doctrine, cos it takes someone that know original to be able to identify fake things. As for the new babes in Christ, i pray God will help so that u will not be carried away by these false teachings cos Jesus will soon come.give names,scare crow!,how the u want people that dont know the so called original truth,to even know who to stay away from. Beside no need oppening this trend and warning if u dont av evidence and stuff.
Even for nairaland,person dey fear man like'em.
|Family / Re: My Dad Breaks Me Down Everyday by goshap(m): 10:11pm On Apr 05|
jaystunt: I am the first born in a family of 6 but I hardly ever get the honour or respect that a first born is entitled to.i can totally relate,did that poison part too.
Listen here until u start thinking like a man,u cant av his respect.thing is itz his respect u need not his love,because by now i know ur nt an emotional sucker,totally at least.
Stoping beating urself up about sumtin u av no control ova,
<humans are generally insatisfiable>,
if u mak da mistak of tryn to please him in 1 direction,he would want to do thesame in all and to control ur life,stil a love on condition is nt love,itz manupulation.
2.u hav 2 tel him ur a man,if nt u'l neva av his respect,stand ur ground at all cost,im very sure u fear ur dad,cause i did 2.
3.very mportant neva compete for his love or respect,he'll only ignoring u cause ur being needy, 80 percent sure,ur brother miss use his love,learn to enjoy that, my brother did/still does that,i just av learn to sit back and watch,i neva miss giving him a beatup though if it a serious misuse of my dads trust. Bottom line sit n watch,rest in the fact ur as genuie as u could get.
4.make sure u design ur own path,cause after fighting and following his path,just to please him,he go go leave u,then u'll be asking urself 'what am i doing here?'.
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|Religion / Re: I Love Her But The Spirit Using Her I Hate! by goshap(m): 4:55pm On Apr 04|
obadiah777: OP THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR WIFE. WE ARE IN THE FINAL SECONDS OF THE END OF THIS KINGDOM. THIS YOUR SITUATION IS HAPPENING TO MANY PEOPLE. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO MAKE IT PAST THE DESTRUCTION THAT WOULD BEFALL THE WORLD IN WW3. THERE WOULD STILL BE PEOPLE NEEDED TO CONTINUE THE HUMAN SPECIES. THESE WOULD BE THE MEEK AND LOWLY AND THE REFINED AND THE RIGHTEOUS. ITS LIKE THIS ' PAY NOW OR PAY LATER '. THOSE WHOM THE LORD WANTS, HE IS MAKING THEM PAY NOW. THOSE WHO ARE STILL ENJOYING THEMSELVES ? THEY WILL PAY LATER. SO YOU ARE GETTING REFINED IN THE FURNACE OF ALLICTION. YOU ARE HIGHLY FAVORED. STAY CLOSER TO GOD. IN FACT STAY EXTREMELY CLOSE TO GOD DURING THIS PERIOD.thats the problem with u,i wonder weda nut da lose for ur head when u read a topic,u start interpreting anoda thing and stating irrelevant verses.
|Religion / Re: I Love Her But The Spirit Using Her I Hate! by goshap(m): 4:49pm On Apr 04|
newloaded: Ever since i got married to my wife things have taken a down-turn in all aspects of my life .I now sleep to have funny dreams,nightmares ;waking up to see different scratches all over my body as opposed to how i was before the wedding .I discovered things have just been falling apart and business arent just picking up.I lost my banking job and my business is at its lowest ebb.So many prophets have pin pointed my woes to my wife ,saying she belongs to the marine kingdom and shes in my life to render me to nothing and thereafter destroy me and signs to confirm this i have witnessed on several occasions.lemma ask u are they disturbing ur wife too?,cause this problem come in two stages,is it u they disturb or ur wife too?.
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|Religion / Re: Has Your Pastor Ever Preached From Songs Of Solomon? by goshap(m): 8:28am On Mar 31|
Ghydyon: At my church today,when the preacher call out a text during the sermon.while i was searching for the text in the Bible my eyes caught up with the book of songs of solomon which made me forgot about the text and the sermon because i was carried away by the content of it then my imaginative mind took over me."how i wish pastor do preach on this book" "how will the preaching look like?" was the words ringing in my heart.this unanswer questions prompt me to bring it here my second home for my fellow christian nairalanders.has your pastor or preacher ever taken a text from song of solomon or preach on any chapter of the book?no BUT IM SURE THE DAY HE INTENTED TO TOAST ALL THE LADIES IN THE CHURCH,USING 1 BULLET TO KILL 70 BIRDS ,HE'LL SURELY PREACH FROM THE SONGS OF SOLOMON.
Hope that day come,i'm in desperate need of flows.
|Religion / Re: 'Christians', Abraham Is Not Your Father! by goshap(m): 8:23am On Mar 31|
christemmbassey: One mistake leads to the others. The problem of the church today is, many peole who occupy leadership positions are ppl 'who dont know' and this shows up in the life of assumptions in the body of Christ. Ppl still feel obligated to pay tithe, do child dedication, do 'church' wedding, go to mountain/Jerusalem or other special places to pray , and most of the time do or say something that will connect them to Abraham for them to be blessed, some say, i pay my tithe because my father Abraham paid tithe and was blessed by Melchizedek. Well , my fellow christians, Abraham is the father of the jews AND NOT OUR(CHRISTIANS) father. .....to be continuedi dnt know where u dug this info from,but lemma just state this.
When the bible said we are children of abraham,it meant we are children of abaraham by COVENANT AND OBEDIENCE,nt in the litrally sense of ancestorship or lineage.
The covenant first startd with abraham, read ur bible,it is through that covenant made with abraham that the children of iseral also tap into,
when a foreigner,sinner, etc ,accepts christ he/she tap into that covenant ,cause it is through that covenant that CHRIST came.
So in a sense ,i guess ur right,i neva bothered reading down ur post,so nt rilly sure what ur saying,just attacking the topic.
|Religion / Re: Goshen, As A Brother, I Have To Warn You To Stop Eating Grass Cutter by goshap(m): 10:41pm On Mar 25|
Jst incase u blind,u can read the verse upward,or the entire chapter u one sided slowpoke,no offence.
|Religion / Re: Goshen, As A Brother, I Have To Warn You To Stop Eating Grass Cutter by goshap(m): 10:39pm On Mar 25|
obadiah777: ISAIAH 66 VS 17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens following one in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, says the LORD.◄ Acts 10:15 ►
New International Version (©2011)
The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."
New Living Translation (©2007)
But the voice spoke again: "Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean."
English Standard Version (©2001)
And the voice came to him again a second time, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Again a voice came to him a second time, "What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy."
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
Again, a second time, a voice said to him, "What God has made clean, you must not call common."
International Standard Version (©2012)
Again the voice came to him a second time, "You must stop calling unclean what God has made clean."
NET Bible (©2006)
The voice spoke to him again, a second time, "What God has made clean, you must not consider ritually unclean!"
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And a voice came again a second time to him: “Those things which Godhas purified you shall not make impure.”
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
A voice spoke to him a second time,"Don't say that the things which God has made clean are impure."
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And the voice spoke unto him again the second time, What God has cleansed, that call not common.
American King James Version
And the voice spoke to him again thesecond time, What God has cleansed, that call not you common.
American Standard Version
And a voice came unto him again thesecond time, What God hath cleansed, make not thou common.
And the voice spoke to him again thesecond time: That which God hath cleansed, do not thou call common.
Darby Bible Translation
And there was a voice again the second time to him, What God has cleansed, do not thou make common.
English Revised Version
And a voice came unto him again thesecond time, What God hath cleansed, make not thou common.
Webster's Bible Translation
And the voice spoke to him again thesecond time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
Weymouth New Testament
Again a second time a voice was heard which said, "What God has purified, you must not regard as unholy."
World English Bible
A voice came to him again the second time, "What God has cleansed, you must not call unclean."
Young's Literal Translation
and there is a voice again a second time unto him: 'What God did cleanse, thou, declare not thou common;'
|Religion / Re: Contending The False And Heretic Teachings By Obadiah777 by goshap(m): 5:18pm On Mar 24|
obadiah777: AM SMOKING THE KJV. TRY IT.i say i wil nt tel mommy na,giv me sum of tat weed.stp da lie
|Religion / Re: Contending The False And Heretic Teachings By Obadiah777 by goshap(m): 5:16pm On Mar 24|
christemmbassey: u are a liar, even when i give u the exact verse, u're still unrepentant, u see y i said , i doubt ur sanity?u know his a lier ,do nt stress ur point a blind man ,wil alwayz b blind,jst wave ,smile look him in the eyes and say'DEVIL I PASS U'.
|Religion / Re: Contending The False And Heretic Teachings By Obadiah777 by goshap(m): 5:12pm On Mar 24|
obadiah777: HER REPLY WAS BUT HOW CAN I ? I HAVE NO MAN ? ( I AM A VIRGIN ) AND THE ANGEL SAID YOU SHALL MEET A MAN AND ETC ETC ETC . NOW WAS THAT SIMPLE IN LAY MANS TERMS ?what r u smoking give sum na
|Religion / Re: Contending The False And Heretic Teachings By Obadiah777 by goshap(m): 5:08pm On Mar 24|
Calculus12:jst passing ,abeg mak una no fight o.
|Religion / Re: Contending The False And Heretic Teachings By Obadiah777 by goshap(m): 4:54pm On Mar 24|
obadiah777: NOW HERE IS A SMART QUESTION. HERE IS A MAN WITH THE MIND OF CHRIST ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. LETS SEE FALSE PROPHET GOSHEN ANSWER THAT LMAOi can answer this,but aint with a christain mindset,probably with the mindset of obadiah, new age stuff.
|Religion / Re: Contending The False And Heretic Teachings By Obadiah777 by goshap(m): 4:46pm On Mar 24|
obadiah777: ANOTHER EMPTY EMOTIONAL OUTBURST.yea!,and i say this with love,SON WHAT R U SMOKING,U GOT GIVE ME SOME,SO I CAN DECEIVE MASLF THE WAY U DO.*DNT WORRY I WONT TELL MOMMY*.
|Religion / Re: Contending The False And Heretic Teachings By Obadiah777 by goshap(m): 1:58pm On Mar 24|
obadiah777: ANOTHER EMPTY EMOTIONAL OUTBURST.i wish
|Religion / Re: Contending The False And Heretic Teachings By Obadiah777 by goshap(m): 1:22pm On Mar 24|
obadiah777: WHAT THE HECK IS NEW AGE RELIGION ? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ? IS THIS A CRUTCH UNDER WHICH YOU HIDE YOUR IMPOTENCY TO REPLY TO A POST ? WHAT IS RELIGION ? WHO TELLS YOU I PRACTICE RELIGION ? CUZ I DIDNT TELL YOU THAT. LETS SEE WHAT THE LORD CONSIDERS RELIGIONsince u dnt knw the structure of ur lie,i advice u either stop lieing or research and gt ur facts staight.
Truth u said abt the church anyway.
|Religion / Re: Contending The False And Heretic Teachings By Obadiah777 by goshap(m): 1:03pm On Mar 24|
Calculus12:thank you,bro pls jst post me the link to this topic befor i say my mind,so as nt to divert this present topics .thanks
*but what the Bleep* ignor.
|Religion / Re: Contending The False And Heretic Teachings By Obadiah777 by goshap(m): 12:55pm On Mar 24|
obadiah777: DUMMY LEARN TO READ AND UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE AND THE PROPHESIES. THE REAL JEWS ARE THE NEGROS. SEE THIS IS LIKE ARGUING WITH A slowpoke. THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATES THAT THE JEWS ARE NEGROS. THE BIBLE STATES THEY WILL BE KICKED OUT OF THE LAND IN 70 AD. THE BIBLE STATES THEY WOULD RUN INTO THE INTERIORS OF AFRICA. THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS THEY WOULD BE ATTACKED BY CAUCASIANS AND TAKEN ON SLAVE SHIPS. WHAT BIBLE ARE YOU READING OR MORE IMPOTANTLY ARE YOU EVEN READING THE BIBLE AT ALL ? THEN AGAIN SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT THOSE WHOSE NAMES ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION WILL BE DECIEVED BY THE DOCTRINES OF THE BEAST WHICH IS THE DOCTRINES OF DEMONS WHICH IS YOU. YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE BECAUSE YOU ARE A WICKED HUMAN BEING. THE LORD DOES NOT LET WICKED PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE WORD. THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORDS IN THE BIBLE IS CONCEALED FROM WICKED PEOPLE. IT SAYS THAT IN THE BOOK OF ISAIAH 6 VS 10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. THE LORD DOES NOT WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND HIS WORDS BECAUSE HE DOES NOT WANT YOU TO BE HEALED. THIS MEANS YOU ARE A WICKED PERSON. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTEi say this with love and respect as i assume ur a christain fellow and aquinted with ur bible ,BRO UR MIXING UP THE NEW AGE RELIGION WITH THE BIBLE,BEATING ARROUND THE BUSH AND GETTING CONFUSE,IF U POSSES THE HOLY SPIRIT ASK HIM TO DIFFERENT BOTH RELIGIONS FOR U,I HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF BOTH AN I AM CONDIDENTLY TELLING YOU THAT THE ASPECT UR SWINGING INTO IS THE NEW AGE RELIGIOUS ASPECT,NOT THE BIBLE INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT,U VERSES ARE STANDRAD BUT THE AMOUNT OF SUPERSTION AND TWISTING INVOLVED IN THE INTERPRETATION IS THE PROBLEM,U ATTACK THE BIBLE FROM A SYMBOLIC VIEW ,INSTEAD OF AN HOLY GHOST INSPIRED VIEW,IM ONLY TAKING MY TIME TO IRON THIS STUFF OUT CAUSE OF THE CHRISTAIN WHO MIGHT NOT BE AS SOUND AS U AND I,OR THE REST,BLIV IT OR NT THEIR R PPLE IN THE WORLD EVEN CHRISTAINS WHO WOULD LOOK UP TO U AS THEIR SPIRITUAL FADA,SINCE UR OBIVOUSLY SOUND AND CHARISMATIC IN THEGOSPEL,AND U DONT WANT TO FEED THEM THIS AND MISLEAD THEM . Me no more debating again ,i'l jst follow the trend of this topic.
Oga Goshap,welcome o.
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