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obadiah777: KEEP DOING THAT GOOD WORK BROTHER. AND CRAZY IS GOOD. WE ARE CRAZY FOR THE LORD

him obadiah..!,good work i doubt that,more like twisted work.

ghostofsparta: This is a respond to the topic: Debunking The Myth Of Money Ritual: Is It Real?

First of all, I clarify that I hold no absolute authority about this subject and it true nature. My submission is so far based on years of observations, trend, deductions, logic and my undying interest in African metaphysics and esoteric knowledge, specifically in what I have termed Yoruba Advanced Sciences erroneously known to many as Juju (a term of french origin).

The purpose of creating this thread is to enlighten those who don't know or are usually confused about what it is meant to mean by 'Money Ritual'. This thread does not seek the opinion of those black Africans who ONLY judge and measure this world and it reality by the theology of the Abrahamic faiths (Judaism, Christianity and Islam).

Once again, who am I, well I am your regular Nigeria dude you could come across with in the street or sit beside in a molue bus sweating with the rest of the tired passengers heading home from a hard day work.

At a tender age, I have since dropped fantasy, fictions and comics stuff only to hobbily delve my attention gradually to seemingly mysterious stuff by fixing my mind and studies to whatever could shed illumination on disturbing and mind-boggling happenings whose nature and purpose for occurring is left to the traditional mystics known as the Babalawos who are completely different from the Onisheguns.

Ritual Money as it is translated to English is a bit more correct interpretationally to the term 'Blood Money' which is often and wrongfully use interchangeably to mean ritual money.

Blood Money can be defined as any method of possessing money through means that either directly or indirectly involves the shedding of human blood. For instance those Mafias in Europe and Russia, Gangstars in USA and Druglords in Latinworld who are involve in illegal drug-traficking can be argued to be indulging in Blood Money since their wealth is related to countless loss of lives. A hired gun, a mercenary, an hit-man, an assassin can all be said to be involve in Blood Money even an armed robber who has taken human life before for money.

I hope with that cleared, I can now proceed to explain what is meant by Money Ritual.

Money Ritual
The Yoruba generic word for it is Ogun Owo. Money Ritual can be accepted as the proper English translation of the word 'Ogun Owo' which I can define as any supernatural means of acquiring whatever symbolises owo money through the application of certain arcane knowledge known only to practitioners of an aspect of Yoruba Esoteric Knowledges.

Esoteric refers to knowledge unavailable to everyone. For instance everyone knows how to boil Yam with water which makes it an Exoteric knowledge, however someone once proved to me that it is also possible to boil a Yam without the application of water, and he did it, now that's Esoteric. No, he insisted he wasn't going to teach me the procedure of how it was done and I respect that.

If Ogun Owo is the Yoruba generic word for Money Ritual, then you should know in Yoruba esoteric parlance, the technical word for it is Osholẹ.

Osholẹ as it is called among the Oniseguns (practitioners of Ogun (supernatural magic)), is a sub-branch of Isegun (craft of Ogun) that encompasses all the metaphysical knowledges of acquiring Owo in a shortcut manner. According to my very limited, uneasy and painful researches I have come to realise that the more effective the results of a type of Oshole is, the more it diabolic requirements and consequence.

A sound Babalawo (an Ifa priest/practitioner) knows more about isegun, their true nature, intricacies and repercussions, that's why a true Babalawo must and will never do Oshole for an asking client, since it is a direct violation of Ifa teaching and ethics. Only the Oniseguns are the ones doing it, and often times a self-compromised Babalawo.

It is a shame that many Yorubas as reflected on Nairaland carries enough knowledge about semitic cultures but knows very little or nothing about theirs just like the differences I have just explained above and many more about the nature, order, purpose and hierarchy of their traditionalists who are the keeper of their culture. Worst of it all are the so called Yoruba speaking movies, especially the mount zion flicks that demonises everything about the Yoruba traditions they do not understand. The Chinese have the Shoguns and Japanese the Samurais and yet never denigrates it just like the Europeans still celebrates 'head hunting'. Without deviating further, let us now unravel the efficacy of Money Ritual or Osholẹ.

First of all, Osholẹ is by no means recommended nor will it be recommended by an Ifa priest when consulting over an issue relating to lack of money or financial problems. There are better alternatives of no consequence proposed by the Ifa priest to a visiting consulter. However, since it takes an Onisegun or a corrupt Babalawo to do it, I'm afraid that it does truly exist and works but not in the way Nollywood and urban legend have exaggerated it. Let those who disbelief in it be informed.

There are minor types of Osholẹthat are prepared in the form of Ose and Aseje for the client to bath with, at times on specified days, these types are mostly to draw Aje (fortune/prospect), it progresses like that up, it's like a spectrum of grades. The higher up it goes, the dire the condition. The underlying problem with Osholẹ is that of all other branches of iseguns; that is they do not last long and for some that seem to, there always afflicted with various factors like; period of potency, conditions, precautions, warnings, renewal due to expiration, grave consequences and dire repercussions for those who offers it knows that nothing goes for nothing otherwise they themselves would have been richer than Bill Gates.

Another inherent problem about all types of Osholẹ is the fact that those whom it had worked for can't come out to attest to it just like those who have attempted it and didn't work. You see. This will bring us to the issue of understands that if it works

Money ritual aka Ogun Owo aka Osholẹ, in all its forms, versions and variety are one way or the other malevolent in the sense that, it is inherent with a drive that readily intoxicates it indulgers with a craving to always upgrading to the major ones for the uncontrolled love for money which makes it completely diabolical, selfish and evil. It takes someone who is either uncontented, impatient, greedy, desperate or frustrated to resort to money ritual, and the Oniseguns are ever available to render it.

According to an Ifa odu , it is sang that Owo (an irunmole) was the only one who ever challenged the Yoruba supreme God by placing itself before Olodumare as been more popular than Olodumare among humans for which Olodumare cursed Owo to forever seek and be sought after by the same humans that bestow Owo it fame. Till this day Owo is sought after by almost every humans and those who know the secrets of invoking Owo and its manipulatives are those I have been talking about since.

If a true Babalawo is consulted about money matters, just like any other matters such as child bearing, spiritual metaphysical protection, or just mere inquiry about the future, he must first check the consulter's[i]ori[/i] to know what it current configuration reads in respect to the consulted matter. Then, a sequence of rites commences, this is done to seek understanding and possible solution to the matter. In the case of having debilitating financial problems, it is from the consulter's ori an answer is provided. Ori in this context does not mean the physical head but one's eleda. According to Ifa teachings, it isn't everybody that is meant to be stupendously rich and wealthy. It is sang that everyone one of us before conception had chosen been opportuned to chose one out of the three types of destiny from ajule orun before manifesting into the physical world from the womb. Some people like Denlere have chosen that 'na thru madness me I won go take make my success' and so shall it be enforced by a particular irunmole whose name I can't remember now but always at the te between ajule-orun and ile aye (Earth).. For some they've chosen a destiny to be rich at a very young age by either being born into a wealthy family whose parent will open a far account for, or doing something that earns him/her steady wealth (Seun/Zukerberg/Walcott), and their others whose destiny is to make it at a late period (Fatai Rolling Dollar). But most importantly Ifa states: everyone is bound to be monetarily rich in a relative manner at some particular point in time in their designated life from ajule-orun, it is that time we don't know, that's why we ought to be patient and hardworking. It is that time a particular version of Oshole fastforward to, and bring all the money the partaker is meant to have, over a period of his/her future time, to the immediate now and spends because he/she couldn't bear being intimidate with cars and material things on campus. That would have being better since he/she would alone suffer gross penury in his/her future time being the limitation and consequence of that type, but as I said when the money is exhausted, he/she would start a journey of searching for another Onisegun who knows of another shortcut to acquire Owo until they reach those ones who knows one of the major types that demands the head of human that is destined to have money. It doesn't always play out like this, there are other major types of Oshole that require either oneself part or if providable that of others. Which is why they are corpses with missing body parts all over Nigeria. Eyes, tongues, bosoms, Cores, fingers, livers, kidneys, hearts, legs, hands etc.

Some of you rationalists can be tempted to think it's all bullshit, trying to rationalise that those corpses whose body parts have been removed are done by those in the organ harvesting business crime. The answer is an emphatic NO!, I am not saying Nigeria haven't being experiencing the 'invasion of the body part snatchers' or there aren't those who voluntarily sell their kidneys to Malaysia agents/buyers, but still before them has being existing organised syndicate of people who make the same money we're talking about by severing and providing human body parts through kidnapping and abductions among several methods.

I have a friend who strongly believes that they shouldn't be call money ritualist but serial killers because he is unable to wrap his mind around why would someone kill another human only to sever the head off or cut some part(s) for the purpose of magically converting it to money or selling to those who indulge in such still beats him.

The shocking truth is that those who patronise this means are mostly Christians and Muslims, both their youths and adults and ofcourse in secret, for no traditionalist or what you like to call pagans will readily indulge in it for they no better. Believe it or not, Money Ritual is a reality and it is as real as Boko Haram.

There used to be those who are called Yahoo!(TM) Yawu Boys who used deception to dupe unsuspecting people over the internet. Ever since people, mostly whites have been enlightened to beware of their schemes, tricks and ploy, the game hasn't been the same for these Yawu boys whose purpose of existence is a reflection of our bad excuse for a country, as they couldn't standby and watch what they consider as their only means of survival, most gradually turned into the application of 'tibile' to aid their online careers by turning to the use of isegun in love/dating scams, phony business dealings, etc. Calling it Yawu Plus. The fallout of these metamorphosis is that a considerable lot of these Yawu Yawu Bois have and are getting railroaded into Money Rituals and now disguises their wealth and money as Yawu money.

Finally, there are lots of 419 con-artist who also disguises as Babalawo and Onisegun by presenting themselves as bona fide money ritualists for the unsuspecting sucker who is going to be asked to soil his/her hand in committing murder only to be further blackmailed to cough out more money or risk exposing his/her secret until he/she finds another gullible victim to be replaced with., thus generating an endless cycle where desperate money seekers are exploited and conned.

¤Ori:
It is the life force and path instructor that each and every humans is uniquely created of by our respective eleda.

¤Irunmoles:
Dateless primordial entities from ajule-orun or outer world. According to Ifa, were said to be 400 in numbers who were missioned in batches at various times to Ile-aye (Earth) by God (Olodumare/Eledumare).

Irunmoles which is a bit different from Orishas are both uniquely Yorubas and are not demons nor wraiths nor titans nor gods. Irunmoles are Irunmoles.
Irunmole (singular), Irunmoles (plural).

well said

Billyonaire: Para-mental farting and hot air!

yea right.

In the light of vigorous misconception and confusion ,I feel the need to clear the air a bit, as I’m lead to. the question is whose an occultist, whose a Satanist and whose is a christain?
an occultist is one who believe in supernatural force, magic ,witchcraft etc.
a Satanist is one who worships Satan, especially in a parody of Christian rites.
A Christian is one who believes in Jesus Christ.
Not really going to create much odor about Christianity, forgive me but I don’t intend to, neither do I intend to go deeply into any particular subject in detailed essence.
Now comtemporary view of an occultist, he/she is one who believe in the supernatural, the extra-ordinary, an occultist is one who possesses knowledge of the universe, nature, he doesn’t just posses it, his aligned with it ,drawn to it, controls it, is influenced ,can be influenced ,by it.
An occultist is a scientist, he studies nature, the universe, causation and effect, his a scientist because he employs all scientific processes, hypothesis, observation, experiment, he adheres to certain formula and believes the law of causation and effect, 1+1=2,a+b=ab. Hardly does he believe that 1+1=11,1+1=110,(there are minor cases of such, especially when not dealt in the physical ).
An occultist is and always will be a religious being ,thing is he adopts it’s from a more different angle, than the typical Christian and Muslim angle, much deeper than the typical Christian and Muslim angle.
Such angle as the believe that he is god, and also that there is a higher God than himself, this higher God goes by many names to him(universe, nature, energy subconscious, mind, force etc. )
Rather than kneel down and pray or hope, he’ll rather apply certain formula (rituals),gotten by his hypothesis, observation and experiment or his experience or that of others, through this formula he hopes to influence a situation, you know the law of what you gives is want you receive, he uses it to a great extent, than an average person, Christian or Muslim.
He influences the unseen in other to create certain effects in the physical scene, typically what differentiate an occultist from a mere man, is the ability to influence the unseen. got me, a mere man is influenced by the unseen /the spiritual aspect, but he rarely influences the unseen, or controls it. an occultist on the other hand is influenced and he controls the unseen ,depending on his level of initiation.
Yea, yea ,yea!, I know the typical Christian would say, he prays and influences the unseen, yes ,you influence it, but an occultist is steps further than you, he exist in the unseen, he tunes into to, he senses it, he is it.
A Christian goes through a channel to get things done, an occult does not really go through a channel, he is the channel, he doesn’t or rarely go through Jesus Christ or the holy spirit. but he believes in them and is acquainted with them on a much more deeper base, he knows he is god, only in certain cases he involves the God higher than himself to intervene. And yes he is influenced by the holy spirit, may or may not believe that Christ is the way the truth and the life, if he does then he sees it in a tool , ritual, formula type of way, the way the Christians believe it only deeper and more strongly way.
Take for example how many Christians actually know the bible is divided into the aspect, based on the method of decoding and interpreting it, I’m guessing only a very minor do, you see a verse in the bible is hidden with coded meanings and interpretations not known to a Christian, in the hands of an occultist its more complex than you think, it’s supposed or is the job of the holy spirit to interpret those verse or the bible to you, that why your asked, to ask for the inspiration an d interpretation of the holy spirit.
The occultist does not ignore the Christ-force, however; he recognizes it as among the hierarchy of
supreme forces of the universe, although he may not be prepared to assign to it the exclusive position
which it occupies in the heart of the Christian . In the Western Tradition it is symbolized by
Tiphareth, the central Sephira of the Ten Holy Sephiroth of the Kabalistic Tree of Life.
Now Satanism is quite a boring aspect, seriously.
A Satanist does not believe in Christ, the holy spirit or God and if he does, his regards for them is blasphemy!, just as Christianity is said to be a religion of light ,Satanism is dark, everything opposing to the Christian, yea that’s Satanism. Best part is Satan is worshiped as a God . their different type of Satanist mostly differentiated based on their believe in Satan.
Case 1 :- a Satanist who believes in Satan as a deity, in other words he believes in Satan, objectively and subjectively. to this case of Satanist, Satan is a deity to be worshiped, a force to be reconciled with, to him Satan is a possibly visibly entity or manifestation. You know the way Christian believes that Christ died on the cross of Calvary and is alive, existing objectively primarily in heaven .it’s the same way case 1 believes in Satan.
Case 2 :-to this Satanist, Satan appears on a subjective term, never objective, to him Satan is not an entity or deity to be worshiped, Satan to him exist as an aspect, dimension of himself ,mostly evil, closely related to an occultist cause an occultist would associated Satan as a symbol or representation for evil ,bad, darkness and Jesus as a symbol for good, light ,symbolically. different between the two is that, case 2 Satanist adhere to Satan as an identity, a self consciousness his associated or choose to be associated to, but an occultist usually plays both cards it’s all about the symbol to him and intention, rarely taken as an identity. Case 2 Satanist also believes that he is god, that is he is Satan, an occultist also believes that too, to an occultist it’s all about balance, while he believes in God(probable),he believes he is god.
Cased3:-aka the luciferian Satanist, this case of Satanist believe in Satan as an angel of light, as his name implies, to him Satan is not necessarily a symbol or deity for evil, and does not represent evil, Satan is good ,holy and the whole 9 yards, if you get the deal ,luciferians tend to focus on Satan the based on his prime in heaven before he was thrown down to earth, case scenario Satan/Lucifer is an angel of light. under luciferian their also two cases, just refer to case 1 and case 2 Satanist.
Thing is an occultist involves in rituals, so does the Satanist difference is a Satanist involves most or greatly in rituals that is blasphemous to the Christian rites/ritual, a Satanist primary aim is to mock the Christian God, and become an anti Christian type of person, a real occultist does not involve in rituals to mock any deity or God, to him Gods are deity, forces(list goes on) he understand, depending on the aspect the occultist focus on.

Truth is different between a Satanist and an occultist is more on the moral ground, and flexibility, a Satanist has taken on an identity, inform with his activity which are greatly a back slap to a pure Christian way. An occultist takes on no identity, but he can if he chooses to.
while difference between an occultist and a Christian more on flexibility ,advancement and tools.
And the difference between a Satanist and a Christian is more like the scenario of light and darkness, opposite sides.
Thing is an occultist is more complex than either the Satanist and the Christian

obadiah777: THIS IS WHY IT IS A SIN TO MAKE ANY GRAVEN IMAGES TO THE MAN. EXODUS 20 VS 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above,

YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW THE WORDS IN THE BIBLE. THIS IS WHAT JESUS IS. THE WORD, NOT THE MAN. FOLLOWING THE MAN IS IDOLATRY

REVELATION 19 VS 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God <<< HIS NAME IS THE WORD OF GOD WHICH IS THE BIBLE

JOHN 1 VS 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. <<< THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH. OK SO THE WORD SUPERSEDES THE FLESH OF THE MAN. SO TRYING TO WORSHIP THE MAN IS IDOLATRY. THE WORD IS WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE FOLLOWING.

IN CONCLUSION-DO NOT FOLLOW THE MAN. THIS IS CARNAL. FOLLOW THE WORD.

no arguement from me!.

obadiah777: ERMM 777, GET IT RIGHT. 7 IS THE NUMBER FOR COMPLETION.

3,is the number of completion,7 is a divine number,and u should knw 7+7+7=2+1=3,so in a way ur number sums at 3,which standz 4 completion n balance.obadiah777 is someelse.
Basic numerology.

honey001:



Are u one of them?

trust me if i wer ,i'll remap ur brain,stil can jst dnt want to b held responcible on judgement day.

Pygru:
I don already help am

then in all ur almighty wisdom and knowledge,where u dump obadiah777 ,the most obvious of all.

Yooguyz: broda goshen if your message and posts does not carry anointing, then you are making noise! Your posts ought to impact the readers
until we start seeing testimonies of breakthrough, salvation e.t.c then all true belivers here are wasting their time

no it doesnt,its meant to inspire and point u in the right direction,teach u stuff,and open ur mind,dont carry ur problems.

Yooguyz: @Goshen, i can understand that you have the call of god in your life, and i have been following your posts religiously, they are very illuminating such that the bring out the various shades of interpretation attached to scripture.But on the other hand, you post lacks something!
It lacks that 'thing'that pricked the heart of the people of pentecost after peter's short msg
it lacks that thing that made people cry for their sins and asked Smith wigglesworth what to do so that they can be saved after his simple sermon about the cross

u mean he lacks charismatic spirit,well sorry to burst ur bubble bt tat vigoritiness ur askn 4 cums frm an out of control self,a need to prove ,by fire by force self

when a person posseses the right measure of knowledge,their usually calm,confident,they just state their fact and watch trace the line,but when a person is lieing,or posses an inadqute knowledge on a matter he/she feels the need to makeup,by been blunt or charismatic in the hope it will mak up for his or her inadquasy.

honey001: I have read so many topics on religion section on this forum, a lot of so called believers here are false teachers of the word of God, going by their various posts and comments, i wont mention anybody in particular, as they know themselves. what am after is for the real believers to actually know what they belief so that they will not be carried away with erroneous doctrine, cos it takes someone that know original to be able to identify fake things. As for the new babes in Christ, i pray God will help so that u will not be carried away by these false teachings cos Jesus will soon come.
I pray God will help us all so as not to miss His coming.

give names,scare crow!,how the u want people that dont know the so called original truth,to even know who to stay away from. Beside no need oppening this trend and warning if u dont av evidence and stuff.
Even for nairaland,person dey fear man like'em.

jaystunt: I am the first born in a family of 6 but I hardly ever get the honour or respect that a first born is entitled to.
I'm what u can refer to as a 'figure head' as my dad who's never scared to show his favoritism to my immediate brother thinks he as the 'real deal', hence leaving me relegated to the background. He(my brother) was not quite good with his books but skilled with his hands, and I was the opposite. My dad is a sucker for people like that but to do it in his home at the detriment of his first child is what I've been grappling with for over 20yrs of my life.

Right from when we were very young my kid bro has been very close to my dad and when I got to secondary school and subsequently the uni, it only made the gap btw him and myself wider. We never got together like a father and child do. I remember poisoning myself in junior high when I just couldn't cope with the situation.

Fast forward 5yrs after college, the family split only (a yr ago). Dad relocated to Ibadan and I and my two brothers stayed put in Lagos but in my apartment. He visits every month, but I see nothing changed in the way he behaves towards me.

Only recently I got to know he's about selling one of his houses out. He gave my immediate brother the papers and the all clear to sell It. When I got wind of the information, I wept like a baby as I never thought he could do that to me.
My immediate brother knows pretty well that dad is on his side and hardly respects me in my own flat. It's even gotten to a stage where I feel like throwing him out. He's such a nuisance this days to me not because I'm jealous but his disregard for me as his senior.

I'm a year older but his attitude towards is dat of an elder brother to his junior. My dad still gets things from me but his loyalty and love rests on my brother.

I honestly don't know what to do to get this depression of me.

Guys how can I stay and lead a happy life amidst dis mess! Pls help!

i can totally relate,did that poison part too.
Listen here until u start thinking like a man,u cant av his respect.thing is itz his respect u need not his love,because by now i know ur nt an emotional sucker,totally at least.
Stoping beating urself up about sumtin u av no control ova,
<humans are generally insatisfiable>,
if u mak da mistak of tryn to please him in 1 direction,he would want to do thesame in all and to control ur life,stil a love on condition is nt love,itz manupulation.
2.u hav 2 tel him ur a man,if nt u'l neva av his respect,stand ur ground at all cost,im very sure u fear ur dad,cause i did 2.
3.very mportant neva compete for his love or respect,he'll only ignoring u cause ur being needy, 80 percent sure,ur brother miss use his love,learn to enjoy that, my brother did/still does that,i just av learn to sit back and watch,i neva miss giving him a beatup though if it a serious misuse of my dads trust. Bottom line sit n watch,rest in the fact ur as genuie as u could get.
4.make sure u design ur own path,cause after fighting and following his path,just to please him,he go go leave u,then u'll be asking urself 'what am i doing here?'.

obadiah777: OP THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR WIFE. WE ARE IN THE FINAL SECONDS OF THE END OF THIS KINGDOM. THIS YOUR SITUATION IS HAPPENING TO MANY PEOPLE. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO MAKE IT PAST THE DESTRUCTION THAT WOULD BEFALL THE WORLD IN WW3. THERE WOULD STILL BE PEOPLE NEEDED TO CONTINUE THE HUMAN SPECIES. THESE WOULD BE THE MEEK AND LOWLY AND THE REFINED AND THE RIGHTEOUS. ITS LIKE THIS ' PAY NOW OR PAY LATER '. THOSE WHOM THE LORD WANTS, HE IS MAKING THEM PAY NOW. THOSE WHO ARE STILL ENJOYING THEMSELVES ? THEY WILL PAY LATER. SO YOU ARE GETTING REFINED IN THE FURNACE OF ALLICTION. YOU ARE HIGHLY FAVORED. STAY CLOSER TO GOD. IN FACT STAY EXTREMELY CLOSE TO GOD DURING THIS PERIOD.

1 TIMOTHY 5 VS 24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after

REVELATION 3 VS 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent

HEBREWS 12 VS 6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth

ZEPHANIAH 3 VS 12 I will also leave in the midst of thee an afflicted and poor people, and they shall trust in the name of the LORD <<< THOSE WHOM THE LORD WOULD LET SURVIVE THE TRIBULATION. THIS IS UNFULFILLED PROPHESY OF THOSE WHO WILL MAKE IT INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN

thats the problem with u,i wonder weda nut da lose for ur head when u read a topic,u start interpreting anoda thing and stating irrelevant verses.

newloaded: Ever since i got married to my wife things have taken a down-turn in all aspects of my life .I now sleep to have funny dreams,nightmares ;waking up to see different scratches all over my body as opposed to how i was before the wedding .I discovered things have just been falling apart and business arent just picking up.I lost my banking job and my business is at its lowest ebb.So many prophets have pin pointed my woes to my wife ,saying she belongs to the marine kingdom and shes in my life to render me to nothing and thereafter destroy me and signs to confirm this i have witnessed on several occasions.
I would like to know if this actually happens or is it just some fairy tales that should be jettisoned?If it is,what options do i have ?Do i seek for her deliverance or simply separate from her ?What if she doesnt want to be delivered ?what should i do?
Opinions and please no insults .

lemma ask u are they disturbing ur wife too?,cause this problem come in two stages,is it u they disturb or ur wife too?.

Ghydyon: At my church today,when the preacher call out a text during the sermon.while i was searching for the text in the Bible my eyes caught up with the book of songs of solomon which made me forgot about the text and the sermon because i was carried away by the content of it then my imaginative mind took over me."how i wish pastor do preach on this book" "how will the preaching look like?" was the words ringing in my heart.this unanswer questions prompt me to bring it here my second home for my fellow christian nairalanders.has your pastor or preacher ever taken a text from song of solomon or preach on any chapter of the book?

no BUT IM SURE THE DAY HE INTENTED TO TOAST ALL THE LADIES IN THE CHURCH,USING 1 BULLET TO KILL 70 BIRDS ,HE'LL SURELY PREACH FROM THE SONGS OF SOLOMON.
Hope that day come,i'm in desperate need of flows.

christemmbassey: One mistake leads to the others. The problem of the church today is, many peole who occupy leadership positions are ppl 'who dont know' and this shows up in the life of assumptions in the body of Christ. Ppl still feel obligated to pay tithe, do child dedication, do 'church' wedding, go to mountain/Jerusalem or other special places to pray , and most of the time do or say something that will connect them to Abraham for them to be blessed, some say, i pay my tithe because my father Abraham paid tithe and was blessed by Melchizedek. Well , my fellow christians, Abraham is the father of the jews AND NOT OUR(CHRISTIANS) father. .....to be continued

i dnt know where u dug this info from,but lemma just state this.

When the bible said we are children of abraham,it meant we are children of abaraham by COVENANT AND OBEDIENCE,nt in the litrally sense of ancestorship or lineage.
The covenant first startd with abraham, read ur bible,it is through that covenant made with abraham that the children of iseral also tap into,

when a foreigner,sinner, etc ,accepts christ he/she tap into that covenant ,cause it is through that covenant that CHRIST came.

So in a sense ,i guess ur right,i neva bothered reading down ur post,so nt rilly sure what ur saying,just attacking the topic.

Jst incase u blind,u can read the verse upward,or the entire chapter u one sided slowpoke,no offence.

obadiah777: ISAIAH 66 VS 17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens following one in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, says the LORD.

◄ Acts 10:15 ►
New International Version (©2011)
The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean."
New Living Translation (©2007)
But the voice spoke again: "Do not call something unclean if God has made it clean."
English Standard Version (©2001)
And the voice came to him again a second time, “What God has made clean, do not call common.”
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Again a voice came to him a second time, "What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy."
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
Again, a second time, a voice said to him, "What God has made clean, you must not call common."
International Standard Version (©2012)
Again the voice came to him a second time, "You must stop calling unclean what God has made clean."
NET Bible (©2006)
The voice spoke to him again, a second time, "What God has made clean, you must not consider ritually unclean!"
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And a voice came again a second time to him: “Those things which Godhas purified you shall not make impure.”
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
A voice spoke to him a second time,"Don't say that the things which God has made clean are impure."
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And the voice spoke unto him again the second time, What God has cleansed, that call not common.
American King James Version
And the voice spoke to him again thesecond time, What God has cleansed, that call not you common.
American Standard Version
And a voice came unto him again thesecond time, What God hath cleansed, make not thou common.
Douay-Rheims Bible
And the voice spoke to him again thesecond time: That which God hath cleansed, do not thou call common.
Darby Bible Translation
And there was a voice again the second time to him, What God has cleansed, do not thou make common.
English Revised Version
And a voice came unto him again thesecond time, What God hath cleansed, make not thou common.
Webster's Bible Translation
And the voice spoke to him again thesecond time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
Weymouth New Testament
Again a second time a voice was heard which said, "What God has purified, you must not regard as unholy."
World English Bible
A voice came to him again the second time, "What God has cleansed, you must not call unclean."
Young's Literal Translation
and there is a voice again a second time unto him: 'What God did cleanse, thou, declare not thou common;'

obadiah777: AM SMOKING THE KJV. TRY IT.

i say i wil nt tel mommy na,giv me sum of tat weed.stp da lie

christemmbassey: u are a liar, even when i give u the exact verse, u're still unrepentant, u see y i said , i doubt ur sanity?

u know his a lier ,do nt stress ur point a blind man ,wil alwayz b blind,jst wave ,smile look him in the eyes and say'DEVIL I PASS U'.

obadiah777: HER REPLY WAS BUT HOW CAN I ? I HAVE NO MAN ? ( I AM A VIRGIN ) AND THE ANGEL SAID YOU SHALL MEET A MAN AND ETC ETC ETC . NOW WAS THAT SIMPLE IN LAY MANS TERMS ?

what r u smoking give sum na

Calculus12:

Get angry!!! The thread is about exposing false teachers. all i am doing is exposing the biggest of them all.

jst passing ,abeg mak una no fight o.

obadiah777: NOW HERE IS A SMART QUESTION. HERE IS A MAN WITH THE MIND OF CHRIST ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. LETS SEE FALSE PROPHET GOSHEN ANSWER THAT LMAO

i can answer this,but aint with a christain mindset,probably with the mindset of obadiah, new age stuff.

obadiah777: ANOTHER EMPTY EMOTIONAL OUTBURST.

yea!,and i say this with love,SON WHAT R U SMOKING,U GOT GIVE ME SOME,SO I CAN DECEIVE MASLF THE WAY U DO.*DNT WORRY I WONT TELL MOMMY*.

obadiah777: ANOTHER EMPTY EMOTIONAL OUTBURST.

i wish

obadiah777: WHAT THE HECK IS NEW AGE RELIGION ? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN ? IS THIS A CRUTCH UNDER WHICH YOU HIDE YOUR IMPOTENCY TO REPLY TO A POST ? WHAT IS RELIGION ? WHO TELLS YOU I PRACTICE RELIGION ? CUZ I DIDNT TELL YOU THAT. LETS SEE WHAT THE LORD CONSIDERS RELIGION

JAMES 1 VS 27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. <<< THATS WHAT THE LORD CONSIDERS RELIGION. ALL THAT STUFF YOU DO IN CHURCHES ? THOSE ARE DENS OF INIQUITIES.

ANOTHER EMOTIONAL OUTBURST.

since u dnt knw the structure of ur lie,i advice u either stop lieing or research and gt ur facts staight.
Truth u said abt the church anyway.

Calculus12:

Not that this matters since e be like say Goshap resemble our infallible teacher, i go post am since u say make i helep u:



Instead of our infallible teacher Goshen to condemn the bold, d guy go do backyard consultation come tell us the following infallible words:

thank you,bro pls jst post me the link to this topic befor i say my mind,so as nt to divert this present topics .thanks

*but what the Bleep* ignor.

obadiah777: DUMMY LEARN TO READ AND UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE AND THE PROPHESIES. THE REAL JEWS ARE THE NEGROS. SEE THIS IS LIKE ARGUING WITH A slowpoke. THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATES THAT THE JEWS ARE NEGROS. THE BIBLE STATES THEY WILL BE KICKED OUT OF THE LAND IN 70 AD. THE BIBLE STATES THEY WOULD RUN INTO THE INTERIORS OF AFRICA. THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS THEY WOULD BE ATTACKED BY CAUCASIANS AND TAKEN ON SLAVE SHIPS. WHAT BIBLE ARE YOU READING OR MORE IMPOTANTLY ARE YOU EVEN READING THE BIBLE AT ALL ? THEN AGAIN SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT THOSE WHOSE NAMES ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION WILL BE DECIEVED BY THE DOCTRINES OF THE BEAST WHICH IS THE DOCTRINES OF DEMONS WHICH IS YOU. YOU DONT UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE BECAUSE YOU ARE A WICKED HUMAN BEING. THE LORD DOES NOT LET WICKED PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE WORD. THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORDS IN THE BIBLE IS CONCEALED FROM WICKED PEOPLE. IT SAYS THAT IN THE BOOK OF ISAIAH 6 VS 10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. THE LORD DOES NOT WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND HIS WORDS BECAUSE HE DOES NOT WANT YOU TO BE HEALED. THIS MEANS YOU ARE A WICKED PERSON. THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE

i say this with love and respect as i assume ur a christain fellow and aquinted with ur bible ,BRO UR MIXING UP THE NEW AGE RELIGION WITH THE BIBLE,BEATING ARROUND THE BUSH AND GETTING CONFUSE,IF U POSSES THE HOLY SPIRIT ASK HIM TO DIFFERENT BOTH RELIGIONS FOR U,I HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF BOTH AN I AM CONDIDENTLY TELLING YOU THAT THE ASPECT UR SWINGING INTO IS THE NEW AGE RELIGIOUS ASPECT,NOT THE BIBLE INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT,U VERSES ARE STANDRAD BUT THE AMOUNT OF SUPERSTION AND TWISTING INVOLVED IN THE INTERPRETATION IS THE PROBLEM,U ATTACK THE BIBLE FROM A SYMBOLIC VIEW ,INSTEAD OF AN HOLY GHOST INSPIRED VIEW,IM ONLY TAKING MY TIME TO IRON THIS STUFF OUT CAUSE OF THE CHRISTAIN WHO MIGHT NOT BE AS SOUND AS U AND I,OR THE REST,BLIV IT OR NT THEIR R PPLE IN THE WORLD EVEN CHRISTAINS WHO WOULD LOOK UP TO U AS THEIR SPIRITUAL FADA,SINCE UR OBIVOUSLY SOUND AND CHARISMATIC IN THEGOSPEL,AND U DONT WANT TO FEED THEM THIS AND MISLEAD THEM . Me no more debating again ,i'l jst follow the trend of this topic.

Oga Goshap,welcome o.