ideepaul:

So sorry, I am bothering you alot these days, but now you are back, lemme learn a bit from you sir
Have you thought about mixing your own fertilizer in the ratio needed or met individuals who have done them successfully, eg mixing MOP,SSP, and UREA to get a better version of the NPK at your plant specific needed ratio, not for storage o, but immediate usage, and maybe with a little bit of the other special grade fertilizer like borax for optimal results? I suspect some of the fertilizers I buy in my state are totally adultrated, and some stay more than 6months - 2yrs without dissolving and with no observable plant growth, especially the TAKAGRO sold here, I have seen the same TAKAGRO brought in from a neighboring state dissolve faster and with improved performance

That's what I did. Mix in the proportion I wanted to use.
For example to get a blooming npk version, for every 1g of SSP (0:20:0), I used 0.7g of NPK (20:5:10) and 0.5g of MOP(0:0:60).
That's gives 14:25:35 (5:8:12) formula which is very good for tomatoes and pepper family.

For cucumbers, I will increase the NPk to 1g giving 20:25:35 (7:8:12) formula.
I noticed Mydaz RZ F1 cucumbers and Colombia watermelon could even take up to 45g fertlizer per plant at adulthood without a burn. It's impossible on peppers but manageable with tomatoes. Meaning every plants needs are different.

Urea is advised not to be mixed with any other fertlizer before application except you are using it immediately. The only advantage of Urea with the MOPs is the precise formula you can get from the formula as the three fertlizers Urea 46:0:0; SSP 20% 0:20:0 with calcium 18% /Sulphur at 11% and MOP 0:0:60 all have 1 major nutrient.
This is easier formulated than using NPk in the formula.

emmaachile2:

That's what I did. Mix in the proportion I wanted to use.
For example to get a blooming npk version, for every 1g of SSP (0:20:0), I used 0.7g of NPK (20:5:10) and 0.5g of MOP(0:0:60).
That's gives 14:25:35 (5:8:12) formula which is very good for tomatoes and pepper family.

For cucumbers, I will increase the NPk to 1g giving 20:25:35 (7:8:12) formula.
I noticed Mydaz RZ F1 cucumbers and Colombia watermelon could even take up to 45g fertlizer per plant at adulthood without a burn. It's impossible on peppers but manageable with tomatoes. Meaning every plants needs are different.

Urea is advised not to be mixed with any other fertlizer before application except you are using it immediately. The only advantage of Urea with the MOPs is the precise formula you can get from the formula as the three fertlizers Urea 46:0:0; SSP 20% 0:20:0 with calcium 18% /Sulphur at 11% and MOP 0:0:60 all have 1 major nutrient.
This is easier formulated than using NPk in the formula.

wow, Boss I am immensely grateful, I have been thinking of adjusting my NPK ratio for long, but my inexperienced head was scared of the outcome, thanks once again Boss

abouzaid:
so you can only irrigate once a day with it been in the morning?

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Depends on ur soil and weather., I irrigate once evry 2 days. In harsh weather, I irrigate daily.

Nezzjnr:

Best Advice ever

It's only best to spray in the evening

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If u mean insecticides, yes, evening is best. And during flowering, use only bee-friendly pesticides. But for irrigation, morning or afternoon is best. During hot periods, afternoon is best.

emmaachile2:

That's what I did. Mix in the proportion I wanted to use.
For example to get a blooming npk version, for every 1g of SSP (0:20:0), I used 0.7g of NPK (20:5:10) and 0.5g of MOP(0:0:60).
That's gives 14:25:35 (5:8:12) formula which is very good for tomatoes and pepper family.

For cucumbers, I will increase the NPk to 1g giving 20:25:35 (7:8:12) formula.
I noticed Mydaz RZ F1 cucumbers and Colombia watermelon could even take up to 45g fertlizer per plant at adulthood without a burn. It's impossible on peppers but manageable with tomatoes. Meaning every plants needs are different.

Urea is advised not to be mixed with any other fertlizer before application except you are using it immediately. The only advantage of Urea with the MOPs is the precise formula you can get from the formula as the three fertlizers Urea 46:0:0; SSP 20% 0:20:0 with calcium 18% /Sulphur at 11% and MOP 0:0:60 all have 1 major nutrient.
This is easier formulated than using NPk in the formula.

but the total cost of the fertilizer would be higher than buying an already blended NPK mix?

FarmTech:

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If u mean insecticides, yes, evening is best. And during flowering, use only bee-friendly pesticides. But for irrigation, morning or afternoon is best. During hot periods, afternoon is best.

Exactly!!!

But I'm bit skeptical about Spraying Fungicide during Flowering period

abouzaid:
but the total cost of the fertilizer would be higher than buying an already blended NPK mix?

This is what cucumbers needs at almost all stages. How do you get this from a blended fertlizer?

FarmTech:

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If u mean insecticides, yes, evening is best. And during flowering, use only bee-friendly pesticides. But for irrigation, morning or afternoon is best. During hot periods, afternoon is best.

But I thought people usually say that one shouldn't irrigate in the afternoons, that it can lead to burn.

IamAsiri:


But I thought people usually say that one shouldn't irrigate in the afternoons, that it can lead to burn.

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Not true, from my experience. Plants love afternoon bath.

Nezzjnr:

Exactly!!!

But I'm bit skeptical about Spraying Fungicide during Flowering period

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Fungicides too can affect bees. But I have no choice for now oo. That's why I'm still looking into organic methods.

FarmTech:

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Not true, from my experience. Plants love afternoon bath.

Wow! Thanks for this tip.

FarmTech:

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Fungicides too can affect bees. But I have no choice for now oo. That's why I'm still looking into organic methods.

That's why it's preferable to reduce Fungicide application when/during Flowering or at least none at all

Nezzjnr:

That's why it's preferable to reduce Fungicide application when/during Flowering or at least none at all

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Isn't that risky with crops like cucumber? Especially during wet, humid periods.

FarmTech:

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Isn't that risky with crops like cucumber? Especially during wet, humid periods.

During the Dry season... It might be okay

Fungicides tends to disrupt pollination some times

Nezzjnr:

During the Dry season... It might be okay

Fungicides tends to disrupt pollination some times

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OK. One gud thing is that, in the evening, flowers are normally closed and that prevents pesticides from reaching the nectars.

FarmTech:

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Yes, but u have to avoid irrigating in the evening to minimize fungal diseases.

Thanks sir

FarmTech:

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OK. One gud thing is that, in the evening, flowers are normally closed and that prevents pesticides from reaching the nectars.

Wow... That's a new one

Lmao..Make I no talk. My fertilization regime is way more advanced than this. Only way you'll get 20 fruits is if you're harvesting small cukes in open field.

You're right, shade net will definitely increase its yield.

emmaachile2:

You will get 20 average fruits if you follow the right schedule in open field. The fertlization is twice a month with a minimum of 15g-30g fertlizer per plant. We used npk 20:5:10 with zinc as trace, SSP 20%, MOP 0:0:60 and magnesium sulphate.
I tested this with my colleagues in 50 growbags in Lokoja at the height of the heat in March/May
We mixed the fertlizers according to the stages with a formula for blooming flowers @ 4 weeks after transplanting at npk 20:25:35 with a magnesium sulphate foliar spray of 2grams per litre twice a month.
I believe with a shadenet of 50% UV, you will even get more.

Oh you can order stuff from solokad or Farm help Ibadan, their prices are better and they can send to your location.

klbakare:


Somewhere in the bushes of ogbomoso.

Spot on

FarmTech:

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Yes, but u have to avoid irrigating in the evening to minimize fungal diseases.

Lo lol.. And your yield will be completely different as well. Hardly will you see a serious farmer who doesn't add more MOP, MAP, or magnesium sulphate to his mix depending on the plant stage. 15-15-15, 20-10-10 and the likes are just not enough.

abouzaid:
but the total cost of the fertilizer would be higher than buying an already blended NPK mix?

Lol..why though? You realize fungicides have little effect on insects right? And also when spraying in the evening all your beneficial insects will be off the farm by then.

You can even spray insecticides that'll normally kill/repel bees in the evening.ost of these chemicals deteriorate with time and in the presence of UV and should be long gone before your bees hit the farm in the morning.

Nezzjnr:

Exactly!!!

But I'm bit skeptical about Spraying Fungicide during Flowering period

Lanjonath:
Lmao..Make I no talk. My fertilization regime is way more advanced than this. Only way you'll get 20 fruits is if you're harvesting small cukes in open field.

You're right, shade net will definitely increase its yield.

With all the advancement, you still get same result as people using only npk with greengo and jorad? Then why waste your time and money with these extra fertlizers and expensive seed brand?

Please how do I treat early blight infection on tomatoes plants?

Nairalanders and jumping to conclusions, aylt least thank God you didnt insult me because thats not too far from y'all here. Where did I mention get ting the same yield as Jorad?? Insinoky said getting 20 cukes per plant isn't feasible.

Or maybe I should say it better, averaging 20 big straight cukes per plant in open field isn't possible, even seed forth agro advertise that.

emmaachile2:

With all the advancement, you still get same result as people using only npk with greengo and jorad? Then why waste your time and money with these extra fertlizers and expensive seed brand?

Spray nd drench Saaf, then you can rotate with copper

Adeola245:
Please how do I treat early blight infection on tomatoes plants?

Lanjonath:
Spray nd drench Saaf, then you can rotate with copper

ok sir, please can 10 big cucs be gotten from mydas with good fertilizer schedule on open field?

Lanjonath:
Spray nd drench Saaf, then you can rotate with copper

I applied hexacal today and will apply champ copper next week. Hope it's any good?

Lanjonath:
Lol..why though? You realize fungicides have little effect on insects right? And also when spraying in the evening all your beneficial insects will be off the farm by then.

You can even spray insecticides that'll normally kill/repel bees in the evening.ost of these chemicals deteriorate with time and in the presence of UV and should be long gone before your bees hit the farm in the morning.

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Some insecticides will persist and kill bees for weeks. Eg Chlorpyrifos, dimethoat etc. It is better to stick to safer ones like lambdacyhalothrin, Abamectin, neem oil, emmamectin etc

FarmTech:

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Some insecticides will persist and kill bees for weeks. Eg Chlorpyrifos, dimethoat etc. It is better to stick to safer ones like lambdacyhalothrin, Abamectin, neem oil, emmamectin etc

Lambda cyhalothrin should have a longer residual action. It does not have odour that's all but its more potent than the more smelly fumigant organophosphates like chlropyrifos and ddforce.

Who knows any Agrochemical store in Lagos..

emmaachile2:

Lambda cyhalothrin should have a longer residual action. It does not have odour that's all but its more potent than the more smelly fumigant organophosphates like chlropyrifos and ddforce.

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Lambda is quite toxic to bees, but the good thing is that it decay fast under sunlight. The same thing with Abamectin, emmamectin and neem oil.