AntiChristian:
So what does Christianity/Paulinism has to curb LGBTQIA?

elated177:


Are you asking me or the Christians?

AntiChristian:


Both.

Ain't you a Christian too?

TheElated177:


Nope.

AntiChristian:


So what "way of life" do you subscribe to?

Chichigi1990:
All mass murderers and serial killers in history have been involved in satanism and/ homosexuality.
Putting life in a place of waste.
Homosexuals don't need the mark of the beast. They already have it. Which is a good thing.

AntiChristian:
So what does Christianity/Paulinism has to curb LGBTQIA?

elated177:


You should have asked what the Scriptures have to curb what you mentioned.

TheElated177:


This way of life.

Deut 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHVH our God, the Lord is one. 5 Love YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.

Deut 8: 6 Observe the commands of YHVH your God, walking in obedience to him and revering him.

Deut 10: 12 And now, Israel, what does YHVH your God ask of you but to fear YHVH your God, to walk in obedience to him, to love him, to serve YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul, 13 and to observe YHVH’s commands and decrees that I am giving you today for your own good?

Deut 11: 1 Love YHVH your God and keep his requirements, his decrees, his laws and his commands always.

Matthew 11: 28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

John 1: 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of YHVH— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of YHVH.

John 14: 6 Yahushua answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 23 Yahushua replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

AntiChristian:


I once asked you what your "way of life" is called but you dodge the Question.

What is your religion?

StJohnofChrist:
That means you're a Christian.
But I see you want it clear, what it means to be a Christian.

elated177:


Chrisgini? Where did you see "Christian" in all those passages highlighted above?

StJohnofChrist:
Do you believe in Jesus, his death, burial and resurrection and follow his commandments which are also the commandments of Yahweh?

TheElated177:


This way of life.

Deut 6:4 Hear, O Israel: YHVH our God, YHVH is one. 5 Love YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.

Deut 8: 6 Observe the commands of YHVH your God, walking in obedience to him and revering him.

Deut 10: 12 And now, Israel, what does YHVH your God ask of you but to fear YHVH your God, to walk in obedience to him, to love him, to serve YHVH your God with all your heart and with all your soul, 13 and to observe YHVH’s commands and decrees that I am giving you today for your own good?

Deut 11: 1 Love YHVH your God and keep his requirements, his decrees, his laws and his commands always.

Matthew 11: 28 “Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

John 1: 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of YHVH— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of YHVH.

John 14: 6 Yahushua answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 23 Yahushua replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

elated177:



I believe in and follow Yahushua the Messiah, the Word and begotten Son of YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth.

I believe obedience to the Ten Commandments of YHVH Almighty constitute the only way to him. I believe Yahushua the Messiah is the embodiment of the Ten Commandments of the Father. Obedience to the Ten Commandments is obedience to Yahushua the Messiah.

I believe Yahushua the Messiah died for my redemption, Salvation, freedom and restoration.

I believe Yahushua the Messiah was born of a virgin, was baptized by John the Baptist, performed many miracles, was impaled, according to the of the Father in heaven, as the sacrificial Lamb, died, was buried, rose from the dead after three days, ascended to heaven, sat at the right hand of the and will come back again.

I believe Yahushua the Messiah is the Salvation of YHVH Almighty.

Does it mean that I am a Christian? Nope!

elated177:



Go through the thread properly, you will see my response. Meanwhile, what is your religion's view on what you mentioned above?

StJohnofChrist:
It's like saying you're a follower of Yah. And I say I believe in all you believe in but I'm not a follower of Yah, because of the word "follower".

AntiChristian:


My religious view on the subject of discuss is simple and also similar to the Biblical judgement of the old testament.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?

81. ‘Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins).’

82. And the answer of his people was only that they said: ‘Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure (from sins)!’

83. Then We saved him and his family, except his wife; she was of those who remained behind (in the torment).

84. And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). Then see what was the end of the Mujrimoon (criminals, polytheists and sinners)”

[al-A’raaf 7:80-84]

“Verily, by your life (O Muhammad), in their wild intoxication, they were wandering blindly.

73. So As‑Saihah (torment — awful cry) overtook them at the time of sunrise.

74. And We turned (the towns of Sodom in Palestine) upside down and rained down on them stones of baked clay.

75. Surely, in this are signs for those who see (or understand or learn the lessons from the Signs of Allaah).

76. And verily, they (the cities) were right on the highroad (from Makkah to Syria, i.e. the place where the Dead Sea is now)”

[al-Hijr 15:72-76]

Al-Tirmidhi (1456), Abu Dawood (4462)and Ibn Maajah (2561) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

So in Islam, Homosexualism is forbidden and it one of the great sins at that.
So in an Islamic state, anyone found guilty by the Shariah of this offense is killed. Exemption is given to minors, people forced by threats and the insane people.

AntiChristian:
So what does Christianity/Paulinism has to curb LGBTQIA?

StJohnofChrist:
It's like saying you're a follower of Yah. And I say I believe in all you believe in but I'm not a follower of Yah, because of the word "follower".

AntiChristian:


My religious view on the subject of discuss is simple and also similar to the Biblical judgement of the old testament.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?

81. ‘Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins).’

82. And the answer of his people was only that they said: ‘Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure (from sins)!’

83. Then We saved him and his family, except his wife; she was of those who remained behind (in the torment).

84. And We rained down on them a rain (of stones). Then see what was the end of the Mujrimoon (criminals, polytheists and sinners)”

[al-A’raaf 7:80-84]

“Verily, by your life (O Muhammad), in their wild intoxication, they were wandering blindly.

73. So As‑Saihah (torment — awful cry) overtook them at the time of sunrise.

74. And We turned (the towns of Sodom in Palestine) upside down and rained down on them stones of baked clay.

75. Surely, in this are signs for those who see (or understand or learn the lessons from the Signs of Allaah).

76. And verily, they (the cities) were right on the highroad (from Makkah to Syria, i.e. the place where the Dead Sea is now)”

[al-Hijr 15:72-76]

Al-Tirmidhi (1456), Abu Dawood (4462)and Ibn Maajah (2561) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

So in Islam, Homosexualism is forbidden and it one of the great sins at that.
So in an Islamic state, anyone found guilty by the Shariah of this offense is killed. Exemption is given to minors, people forced by threats and the insane people.

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

Romans 1: 21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles. 24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.

There are many symptoms of false religion. The chief symptom is homosexuality.

False religion comes in different forms. [b]False religion is conscious and unconscious worship of Satan and the demons. [/b]Homosexuality is the major consequence of satanism/demonism.

Homosexuality is not ordinary. Those who engage in it do not just do it.

From the Scripture above, it could be inferred that the first homosexual act came only after humans started worshipping demons.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

PastorAIO:


Perhaps you can help with the resolution of these 2 bible passages. Lest you are unawares worshipping Satan.


1 Chronicles 21
1Then Satan stood against Israel and incited David to number Israel. 2So David said to Joab and the commanders of the army, “Go, number Israel, from Beersheba to Dan, and bring me a report, that I may know their number.”

2 Samuel 24
1Again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go, number Israel and Judah.” 2So the king said to Joab, the commander of the army,a who was with him, “Go through all the tribes of Israel, from Dan to Beersheba, and number the people, that I may know the number of the people.”

elated177:


What do the passages have to do with the message?

PastorAIO:


The passages conflate your god with satan. You warn that we should be careful of satanic religion. I'm sounding a warning that you should tread carefully lest you find yourself worshipping satan and becoming, according to you, an homosexual.

elated177:



You are not making any sense, Ayo.

PastorAIO:


I'll try one more time, if you don't understand then no wahala, leave it.

Bible conflates yhwh and satan. Talks of them as if they are the same being.

You talk of conscious and unconscious worship of Satan.

I want to raise the consideration that you may be unconsciously worshipping satan yourself. In which case you run a risk of becoming a homosexual.

I hope that clarifies