Ellexy:
Since the case na bf/gf matter, I no see need for the Bible quotation but lemme just add that the Bible was addressing both partners and not women only using sex as a weapon.

Yes, but women use it as a weapon like ratio 9.9:0.1

Ellexy:
But then even in marriage, consent is key in relating with each other between reasonable partners, where you seek to please your spouse, rape should never come in the picture at all.

So when your partner is not feeling alright, you don't place your sexual gratification above their physical and emotional welfare and seek to get it by all means by forcing yourself on them. This is even between married folks not to talk of bf/gf matter.

You kind of assume that Greenwood has no common sense not to know what you stated above. So you think Greenwood will go to a girl who is on her period? Or do you think Greenwood will forcefully tear off the clothes of his girlfriend to get to that point? I doubt this. I am trying to reason what could have happened before both of them became naked in the first place.

Ellexy:
I'll also say that Greenwood is the one using sex as a weapon against the poor girl not the other way round, maybe you should check out the psychology of rape.

Let's hear his part. The crucifixion before his own statement is not okay

elampiro:


From God's point of view and judgment, they are fornicators. But in Europe, such relationships endorsed by parents are treated like marriages. The parents visit each other during festivals. A lady friend of mine, she and her boyfriend changed apartment, their parents were helping them to move the properties. I have seen many like that, something far different from the way Nigerian people see boyfriend/girlfriend.

So according to you now.

Will they need a divorce paper from court b4 going their separate ways

Segedinho:

So according to you now.

Will they need a divorce paper from court b4 going their separate ways

No

elampiro:


No

Does mason have right over when to spread her legs

Segedinho:

Does mason have right over when to spread her legs

Do people with the ability to get divorce papers from court have the right to when a woman spreads her legs?

elampiro:


Do people with the ability to get divorce papers from court have the right to when a woman spreads her legs?

You are getting more confused bro.


You brought in God's view using the bible as a yardstick.

You said there shouldn't be sex starved in any form.(((*So there is right*))...from ur perspective e.g the bible

U said where u are...they are assume as marriied couple since they live with each other under parental consent.

They onus is on u

Segedinho:

You are getting more confused bro.


You brought in God's view using the bible as a yardstick.

You said there shouldn't be sex starved in any form.(((*So there is right*)).

U said where u are...they are assume as marriied couple since they live with each other under parental consent.

They onus is on u

You are the one not seeing that you got confused. I saw where you were going to so I went ahead of you to checkmate you.

1. There is God's law
2. There is civil law
3. There is societal acceptable standard (good or evil)

1. In the eyes of God, only married people can be in a sexual relationship. They must not deny each other when one party wants it (assuming both are healthy)
2. Civil law recognises marriage, civil union (boyfriend and girlfriend who register their names with the govt) in some countries, right to freedom of relationship, even if adultery.
3. Society ills accept boyfriend and girlfriend and all the sexual stuff that go with it. In this case, it is easier to walk away from such relationships. But the sex thing is expected by the evil society as happens in marriages.

elampiro:
Yes, but women use it as a weapon like ratio 9.9:0.1

How did you arrive at this ratio?

You kind of assume that Greenwood has no common sense not to know what you stated above. So you think Greenwood will go to a girl who is on her period? Or do you think Greenwood will forcefully tear off the clothes of his girlfriend to get to that point? I doubt this. I am trying to reason what could have happened before both of them became naked in the first place.

Both of you can get naked for all I care but if she tells you I'm not doing again, as a guy you dress up and free her to avoid stories that touch. NO is NO. STOP IS STOP.
If your partner is hurt emotionally or physically or otherwise, she might want to be curdled and pampered, doesn't mean your third leg must get action that particularly time. Wisdom has always been profitable to direct and is always justified by her children but it seems Greenwood's foolishness was too strong.

Let's hear his part. The crucifixion before his own statement is not okay

With the way things have gone and is going so far, we might never hear his part. He needs a miracle right now.

elampiro:


You are the one not seeing that you got confused. I saw where you were going to so I went ahead of you to checkmate you.

1. There is God's law
2. There is civil law
3. There is societal acceptable standard (good or evil)

1. In the eyes of God, only married people can be in a sexual relationship. They must not deny each other when one party wants it (assuming both are healthy)
2. Civil law recognises marriage, civil union (boyfriend and girlfriend who register their names with the govt) in some countries, right to freedom of relationship, even if adultery.
3. Society ills accept boyfriend and girlfriend and all the sexual stuff that go with it. In this case, it is easier to walk away from such relationships. But the sex thing is expected by the evil society as happens in marriages.

What law should be used to judge the case

I don't think you understand whatever u have been writing since.

At first u blame d girl for not walking away.

You indirectly accepted mason did it but the girl is older and would have averted d scene using maturity.

You brought in d bible to show even if mason did it..he is right since they are assume as married couple under parental consent..

What is the correlation between what the bible says and what is on ground now knowing fully well they ain't married...

I don't know if you are related to hensben cos u are sounding exactly like him...

Anytime I see Elamps arguing... The speed wey I dey use take scroll to the last page ehn.

Ellexy:
How did you arrive at this ratio?


Both of you can get naked for all I care but if she tells you I'm not doing again, as a guy you dress up and free her to avoid stories that touch. NO is NO. STOP IS STOP.
If your partner is hurt emotionally or physically or otherwise, she might want to be curdled and pampered, doesn't mean your third leg must get action that particularly time. Wisdom has always been profitable to direct and is always justified by her children but it seems Greenwood's foolishness was too strong.
With the way things have gone and is going so far, we might never hear his part. He needs a miracle right now.

The parents understand that these people are young and that young people 20 and 22 years old can make relationship mistakes. We don't know the history or story of their sex language before that short audio. The police will determine the level of abuse or criminal activity in this matter.

Segedinho:

What law should be used to judge the case

I don't think you understand whatever u have been writing since.

At first u blame d girl for not walking away.

You indirectly accepted mason did it but the girl is older and would have averted d scene using maturity.

You brought in d bible to show even if mason did it..he is right since they are assume as married couple under parental consent..

What is the correlation between what the bible says and what is on ground now knowing fully well they ain't married...

I don't know if you are related to hensben cos u are sounding exactly like him...

You are bringing replies to different points raised to justify your confusion.

When I talk about Greenwood and Ms Robison, I am talking about it from the aspect of societal ill. Not from the aspect of Christianity. Otherwise, both of them should be caned for being in a sexual relationship without marriage. But we live in an imperfect world. So I look at it from that angle. The angle that young people make relationship mistakes. In the world of immorality we created for ourselves, relationships like these ones are like free entry and free exit (break ups now and then). In my faith, in the Catholic church, marriage is till death. But in boyfriend and girlfriend matter, a 20 years old guy cannot be trusted to have decided on his future partner yet.

So now, based on the immoral world, when in a relationship before marriage, you should know that until you hear I do, or taken to the altar, anything can happen. The system doesn't suit people who are too clinging. It is the Christain ways that suit them.

elampiro:


You are bringing replies to different points raised to justify your confusion.

When I talk about Greenwood and Ms Robison, I am talking about it from the aspect of societal ill. Not from the aspect of Christianity. Otherwise, both of them should be caned for being in a sexual relationship without marriage. But we live in an imperfect world. So I look at it from that angle. The angle that young people make relationship mistakes. In the world of immorality we created for ourselves, relationships like these ones are like free entry and free exit (break ups now and then). In my faith, in the Catholic church, marriage is till death. But in boyfriend and girlfriend matter, a 20 years old guy cannot be trusted to have decided on his future partner yet.

So now, based on the immoral world, when in a relationship before marriage, you should know that until you hear I do, or taken to the altar, anything can happen. The system doesn't suit people who are too clinging. It is the Christain ways that suit them.

Imperfect world you say.

Robbery by a 20yr old should be considered as imperfect then if no causality is involved.

Raping must be coined as mistake since we live in an imperfect world.

And maybe we should just flog mason for abusing the girl.

Or probably draw his ears and say the next time u try this shit..u will do 50 frog jumps..

All because we live in an imperfect world.

I like ur philosophy.

What then should we do to a 22 yr old guy selling cocaine....I think he should be doing 50 press ups as a deterrent...

elampiro:


The parents understand that these people are young and that young people 20 and 22 years old can make relationship mistakes. We don't know the history or story of their sex language before that short audio. The police will determine the level of abuse or criminal activity in this matter.

It's the way you're calling Sexual abuse[RAPE] and hardcore physical abuse happening repeatedly a mere relationship mistake

Bro that's a crime that people spend the rest of their lives in jail for, it's nothing to be brushed aside.

If the parents understands like you said let's see whether the law will understand. Also since you like some Bible references any idea what the consequences of forcing a lady against her will sexually and physically abusing her are?

Segedinho:

Imperfect world you say.

Robbery by a 20yr old should be considered as imperfect then if no causality is involved.

Raping must be coined as mistake since we live in an imperfect world.

And maybe we should just flog mason for abusing the girl.

Or probably draw his ears and say the next time u try this shit..u will do 50 frog jumps..

All because we live in an imperfect world.

I like ur philosophy

Apples and oranges. This matter between two people who live in the same house and have agreed from onset to sexual activities is not the same as one who goes to buy a gun, leaves his house to another, enters into someone's house and rob him.

There are mistakes that come with relationships, jobs, etc. Like some issues against medical doctors on the course of their jobs. Wrong diagnosis, wrong prescription, forgotten items on inside belly after surgery, accused of putting hand in the wrong place during examination.

Ellexy:
It's the way you're calling Sexual abuse[RAPE] and hardcore physical abuse happening repeatedly a mere relationship mistake

Bro that's a crime that people spend the rest of their lives in jail for, it's nothing to be brushed aside.

Can you thrown more light on this 'repeatedly'

elampiro:


Can you thrown more light on this 'repeatedly'

Reoccurring, not a one-off incident, not isolated, Habitual, Repetitive, Intermittent etc

elampiro:


Apples and oranges. This matter between two people who live in the same house and have agreed from onset to sexual activities is not the same as one who goes to buy a gun, leaves his house to another, enters into someone's house and rob him.

There are mistakes that come with relationships, jobs, etc. Like some issues against medical doctors on the course of their jobs. Wrong diagnosis, wrong prescription, forgotten items on inside belly after surgery, accused of putting hand in the wrong place during examination.

What abt a guy that sniffs cocaine...is it anyone's business


I think you are right..since they have agreed to be in a relationship..it is very right for mason to beat a hell out of her.

And bang her even tru d anus.....it is an agreement remember..

You are very right my bro.


Na mistake.

Na to flog am

Ellexy:
Reoccurring, not a one-off incident, Habitual, Repetitive, Intermittent etc

Can you post the news here of this reoccurring? May be there is something that I don't know

Segedinho:

What abt a guy that sniffs cocaine...is it anyone's business


I think you are right..since they have agreed to be in a relationship..it is very right for mason to beat a hell out of her.

And bang her even tru d anus.....it is an agreement remember..

You are very right my bro.


Na mistake.

Na to flog am

Sometimes, there are mitigating factors. Being in a relationship is one here that gives him a soft landing. If Greenwood raped a random girl, I would not be thinking may be there is something we don't know yet that might come ut from police investigation.

Anyway, I read now that questioning ends tomorrow. May be we will hear something tomorrow or next. I am glad that we can hear from the police soon so that all speculations can stop

So he is going to get charged to court tomorrow or asked to temporarily returned home.

elampiro:


Sometimes, there are mitigating factors. Being in a relationship is one here that gives him a soft landing. If Greenwood raped a random girl, I would not be thinking may be there is something we don't know yet that might come ut from police investigation.

Anyway, I read now that questioning ends tomorrow. May be we will hear something tomorrow or next. I am glad that we can hear from the police soon so that all speculations can stop

You are indirectly accepting that mason is guilty but his punishment should be flogging since she is his girlfriend


I gerrit

elampiro:


Can you post the news here of this reoccurring? May be there is something that I don't know

Lol, there were pictures, video, audio tapes and you're asking of recurring news? Okay take this picture below for example, shebi all the marks and wounds were inflicted in one day ni?

Segedinho:

You are indirectly accepting that mason is guilty but his punishment should be flogging since she is his girlfriend


I gerrit

Did you imagine that I was supporting his action? I did not support what he did but in life we look broadly. Also, I am an apostle of forgiveness. If I had to punish or report to the police what people have done to me, I would have people in jail up till now. Everyone who knows me personally knows that I have forgiven the impossible things a human can forgive.

Ellexy:
Lol, there were pictures, videos, audio tapes and you're asking of recurring news? Okay take this picture below for example, shebi all the marks and wounds were inflicted in one day ni?

I listen to only one audio only. When she said I don't want to have sex. I read here that the physical abuse was in October last year. I am kind of very busy. Today is my first off day in a long time. From tomorrow, you will hardly see me comment here too often.

elampiro:


Did you imagine that I was supporting his action? I did not support what he did but in life we look broadly. Also, I am an apostle of forgiveness. If I had to punish or report to the police what people have done to me, I would have people in jail up till now. Everyone who knows me personally knows that I have forgiven the impossible things a human can forgive.

Same forgiving hand should be extended to
arm robbers

Cocaine peddlers

Bandits

Corrupts leaders

Rapists

Etc

They world is imperfect remember

elampiro:


I listen to only one audio only. When she said I don't want to have sex. I read here that the physical abuse was in October last year. I am kind of very busy. Today is my first off day in a long time. From tomorrow, you will hardly see me comment here too often.

With the pictures of injuries you posted above, was it not enough for the parents to have ended the relationship?

hmmm, Beckham could have pressed for charges o, against sir Alex.

With the pictures of injuries, you can actually tell this little girl has kept quiet for long, she has been trying to protect him for a very long time because she really loved him but then again, he kept doing it all over again and again because he thinks he is untouchable.
Actually i felt pity for the little girl, no girl or woman should go through what she has been through, people are not even concerned about the mental health of the girl.

How this constant ordeal has affected her, it's like when you kidnapped a girl and the kidnapper kept the girl in a lonely place and kept raping her over and over again for days, weeks and months. Even if the girl is rescued, she needs to be on suicide watch because she might actually take her life or the ordeal will affect her and the way she relates to people for the rest of her life.
Any human can tell this little girl has been through a lot at the hands of a good looking monster.
The case is case where people go to jail for the rest of their lives except the panel of judges just want to pity him but one thing is certain, mason will never play football for the rest of his life and i doubt if anyone will hire him as a job seeker.
The little kid is cancelled.

OhBritannia:
With the pictures of injuries, you can actually tell this little girl has kept quiet for long, she has been trying to protect him for a very long time because she really loved him but then again, he kept doing it all over again and again because he thinks he is untouchable.
Actually i felt pity for the little girl, no girl or woman should go through what she has been through, people are not even concerned about the mental health of the girl.

How this constant ordeal has affected her, it's like when you kidnapped a girl and the kidnapper kept the girl in a lonely place and kept raping her over and over again for days, weeks and months. Even if the girl is rescued, she needs to be on suicide watch because she might actually take her life or the ordeal will affect her and the way she relates to people for the rest of her life.
Any human can tell this little girl has been through a lot at the hands of a good looking monster.
The case is case where people go to jail for the rest of their lives except the panel of judges just want to pity him but one thing is certain, mason will never play football for the rest of his life and i doubt if anyone will hire him as a job seeker.
The little kid is cancelled.

Kidnapped with all these enjoyment photos? And she is not a little girl to Greenwood. She is his senior.

elampiro:


Kidnapped with all these enjoyment photos? And she is not a little girl to Greenwood. She is his senior.

Jeez!!! Mehnn!!
You think you can tell how people live because of happy social media pictures and videos?
You probably don't know what people passes through in reality.
Do you think people shows phycological trauma on social media?
Even most of our African mothers have to go through all these for years probably because of the society and because of the love of the children and sometimes the kids have no idea what is going on.
There is more to life than social media photos, the more you look, the less you see.