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Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by paceboy: 6:58pm On Aug 03, 2013
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Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by 4teelaw(f): 7:17pm On Aug 03, 2013
Invest in the real sector of the Nigerian Economy, earn high returns on your investment, short tenored investments, 30 days, 60 days, 90days depends on your risk appetite. Financial advisory and SME Business advisory services also available.
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by arcview: 7:25pm On Aug 03, 2013
Answer to your question:

www.rfcng.com

Real Estate is the best form of investment in Nigeria. There is no place you have property that can depreciate in value hence appreciation is guarantee. Look for prime properties, buy it and let it out. Surely you will be paid monthly or yearly. Leave all the funds managers that will ask you to bring your head and leave your neck when you need your money...

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Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by 735i(m): 7:34pm On Aug 03, 2013
4teelaw: answer to your question:

www.rfcng.com

Invest in the real sector of the Nigerian Economy, earn high returns on your investment, short tenored investments, 30 days, 60 days, 90days depends on your risk appetite. Financial advisory and SME Business advisory services also available.


Invested with these chaps a few months ago. the returns were quite scary. Had to pull out principal and intrest a few weeks ago to cash in on an oil deal. Will be investing again in a few days time.
And I suspect this^^^^ is my account officer T here tongue
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by dfav: 8:21pm On Aug 03, 2013
I believe in a country like Nigeria investment should be a personal thing because when it fails no law will help you recover your fund.

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Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by Piro4rl(m): 8:59pm On Aug 03, 2013
Real Estate is the best, all these banks are bunch of cheats
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by Nobody: 9:10pm On Aug 03, 2013
I invested my money in Zenith Equity Mutual Fund for about four(4) years. The fund was never listed on the NSE,activities of the fund were shrouded in secrecy to say the least.
I never got any dividend within these years. I sold out and never looked back. I will never advice any one to buy into any mutual fund in Nigeria. They are greedy bunch of people.
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by OkochiZico(m): 9:31pm On Aug 03, 2013
ARM Mutual Fund is ideal for u, go for it. Call 01 2715000 for details, goodluck.
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by Nobody: 3:33am On Aug 04, 2013
The lie called Mutual funds.....its a fund basically 100% your money and zero percent companies money.....all they are interested in is the charges they make from investing it in the stock market....they do nuffin new....wat dey do is select diff stocks from diff sectors of the economy and invest in it.....so if the one sector of the economy falls it will also affect ur funds.....and if another sector grows ur funds too grows......but here is the catch.........both must happen so wat u will have is a break even investments that they will charge and leave little or nuffin for you as profits grin grin grin grin
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by delgroveng(m): 5:26am On Aug 04, 2013
blink182: Mutual funds are for lazy investors hence you shouldn't expect much.
Don't u think that is jumping to naive conclusion.
Mr funds are for a purpose. For investors with little time or less informed about financial investment but idle cash.
While for the the economy they act as allocating resources much efficiently based on returns risk. Lesser risk..lower returns...higher perceived risk...investors expect higher risk...i plan to introduce depository receipt in Nigeria...American, japanese stocks for naija investors to better balance their portfolio.
If u like the idea tick like
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by delgroveng(m): 5:29am On Aug 04, 2013
delgroveng:
Don't u think that is jumping to naive conclusion.
M/ funds are for a purpose. For investors with little time or less informed about financial investment but idle cash.
While for the the economy they act as allocating resources much efficiently based on returns risk. Lesser risk..lower returns...higher perceived risk...investors expect higher returns...i plan to introduce depository receipt in Nigeria...American, japanese stocks for naija investors to better balance their portfolio.
If u like the idea tick like

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Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by Nobody: 12:47am On Aug 05, 2013
I've bn using firstbank's fixed income & mutual funds since last year & no regrets.
But seriously, u guys r scaring me

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Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by docjuli(m): 7:45am On Aug 05, 2013
shalomblue: Please don't go near ARM,u ll lose your fund if you do.

Tell us more.

Have been with them over 6 years, ROI have been impressive though not TOO BIG.
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by deenee: 1:20am On Aug 06, 2013
Apparently, there are a lot of uninformed people on this thread.

Mutual funds are not a bad idea once you get your investment strategy right.

What I see with most typical Nigerian investors is that they always want the quick way out. Always looking for the next "big transaction" that will turn their investment principal of 100k into 10 million etc etc. However, sorry to bust your bubble investments are not that way and if you are not rightly informed and use the information in due course, there is a high tendency to be back at "ground zero".


A mutual fund is a collective unit investment scheme where a fund manager pulls together funds from all categories of investors (retail, corporate, institutional, government etc) and put such in varying investment vehicles depending on the risk appetite, expected ROI and investment decision of the investors. A unit price is usually ascribed to the pooled investment scheme. This is the reason why we have mutual fund managers that use names such as "aggressive growth fund, equity fund, capital market fund, ethical fund, money market fund" etc all coined to differentiate the different classes of investment.

The name used for the type of pooled investment is usually determined by two basic factors namely the risk appetite and expected returns. Hence in this regard, a money market fund would typical fit investors that are risk averse and would prefer just minimal returns on their investments which would mostly consist of government backed securities (T.bills, bonds etc). A risk loving investor might consider investments in aggressive or equity fund wherein risk is high and so also returns.

Mutual funds can also be closed ended or opened ended. A closed ended MF is one where the fund is not open to secondary investors and wherein an original investor can only liquidate their investment after an agreed period has elapsed. This type is very uncommon in Nigeria and used mostly by pension fund managers in the West. The open ended is the opposite.

I usually advice people to have a portfolio depending on their risk appetite. A typical portfolio should have the following cash, FD, Tbills, your voluntary RSA contributions with a seasoned PFA,money and capital market investments, proprietary holdings, real estate (not essential for beginners) and mutual fund investments. The advantage with MF of course is that you don't have to worry about daily monitoring as you are already paying the fund manager to do that and there is also the risk of portfolio decline as we have with all other investments including the "almighty risk free T bills".

Speaking of T bills, do people really consider the real rate of inflation when calculating their ROI on T bills? I guess the answer is in the "affirmative" since every body here seems to think that T bills is the next best thing after man "discovered fire" and for those who think that T bills are risk free, just wait till the government defaults on repayment of a maturing T bill tranche.

I guess a lot of people are quick to forget the silent trigger that caused what we all now know as the "European Debt Crisis".

Finally, please do your homework well, read far and wide, understand why you want to invest, create a balance between short term profit taking and long term gratification, check the amount of funds you are willing to commit and lose (yes you will surely lose some) and ensure that your investment strategy is backed up by consistency in three areas namely....consistent contributions, capital reinvestment and continuous learning

All the best!

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Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by manie(m): 2:41pm On Aug 06, 2013
deenee: Apparently, there are a lot of uninformed people on this thread.

Mutual funds are not a bad idea once you get your investment strategy right.

What I see with most typical Nigerian investors is that they always want the quick way out. Always looking for the next "big transaction" that will turn their investment principal of 100k into 10 million etc etc. However, sorry to bust your bubble investments are not that way and if you are not rightly informed and use the information in due course, there is a high tendency to be back at "ground zero".


A mutual fund is a collective unit investment scheme where a fund manager pulls together funds from all categories of investors (retail, corporate, institutional, government etc) and put such in varying investment vehicles depending on the risk appetite, expected ROI and investment decision of the investors. A unit price is usually ascribed to the pooled investment scheme. This is the reason why we have mutual fund managers that use names such as "aggressive growth fund, equity fund, capital market fund, ethical fund, money market fund" etc all coined to differentiate the different classes of investment.

The name used for the type of pooled investment is usually determined by two basic factors namely the risk appetite and expected returns. Hence in this regard, a money market fund would typical fit investors that are risk averse and would prefer just minimal returns on their investments which would mostly consist of government backed securities (T.bills, bonds etc). A risk loving investor might consider investments in aggressive or equity fund wherein risk is high and so also returns.

Mutual funds can also be closed ended or opened ended. A closed ended MF is one where the fund is not open to secondary investors and wherein an original investor can only liquidate their investment after an agreed period has elapsed. This type is very uncommon in Nigeria and used mostly by pension fund managers in the West. The open ended is the opposite.

I usually advice people to have a portfolio depending on their risk appetite. A typical portfolio should have the following cash, FD, Tbills, your voluntary RSA contributions with a seasoned PFA,money and capital market investments, proprietary holdings, real estate (not essential for beginners) and mutual fund investments. The advantage with MF of course is that you don't have to worry about daily monitoring as you are already paying the fund manager to do that and there is also the risk of portfolio decline as we have with all other investments including the "almighty risk free T bills".

Speaking of T bills, do people really consider the real rate of inflation when calculating their ROI on T bills? I guess the answer is in the "affirmative" since every body here seems to think that T bills is the next best thing after man "discovered fire" and for those who think that T bills are risk free, just wait till the government defaults on repayment of a maturing T bill tranche.

I guess a lot of people are quick to forget the silent trigger that caused what we all now know as the "European Debt Crisis".

Finally, please do your homework well, read far and wide, understand why you want to invest, create a balance between short term profit taking and long term gratification, check the amount of funds you are willing to commit and lose (yes you will surely lose some) and ensure that your investment strategy is backed up by consistency in three areas namely....consistent contributions, capital reinvestment and continuous learning

All the best!



Tell that to the uninformed investors. Can you tell me a a single Nigerian mutual fund that has beaten the performance of the All Share Index, can you tell me a mutual fund that has beaten annualized return of treasury bill in 20 years or a mutual fund that has done better than inflation in 20 years. May be you will also call 20 years a short term investment.


Mutual fund investment is for lazy investors, people should be encouraged to invest in their financial education rather than investing in a mutual fund.

Informed and matured investors want to be solely responsible for whatever happens to them investment wise, rather than blaming a fund manager for the return on my investment portfolio.

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Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by deenee: 5:33pm On Aug 06, 2013
@ manie.....I can tell you for certain that Stanbic IBTC equity fund and ARM discovery fund have out performed the Nigerian All share index on several occasions even during the stock market meltdown. You can goggle it to confirm my claim.

As indicated in my earlier post, investing in mutual funds has its pros and cons but giving the whole investment a bad name is not appropriate especially for uninformed investors. I have consistently invested in a mutual fund as part of my entire portfolio for over five years and the returns (dividend payout and capital appreciation) has outperformed the NSE all share index.

Also not every body can analyse and take investment decisions regarding equities.

I keep telling people that the inflation rate we use in Nigeria is very flawed especially when we are all aware that data used to compute it is not accurate. The rate of inflation should be determined by a combination of consumer index, balance of trade payments,LIBOR etc and not the apex bank unilaterally setting it.

Finally go through my post again and you will note that I have include "continuous learning" as a criteria for the investment curve to be complete and YES one needs to invest long term in a good and tested mutual fund albeit in small tranches if a sustainable ROI is to be achieved.

I rest my case!

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Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by kolexy(m): 2:37am On Aug 22, 2013
Alumnus: I intend to constantly invest a certain percentage of my salary on stocks for few coming years. But am confused on whether to make individual investment or go through Mutual Fund managers. I have been investing individually with my small funds before now but haven't tried mutual fund before.

Please your experiences and advice on Mutual funds in Nigeria will be greatly appreciated.

Surprised to read all these. Never had any problem with my investments. Please try Kakawa, Lead capital or ARM. They have products that give fixed return.
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by manie(m): 3:17am On Aug 22, 2013
deenee: @ manie.....I can tell you for certain that Stanbic IBTC equity fund and ARM discovery fund have out performed the Nigerian All share index on several occasions even during the stock market meltdown. You can goggle it to confirm my claim.

As indicated in my earlier post, investing in mutual funds has its pros and cons but giving the whole investment a bad name is not appropriate especially for uninformed investors. I have consistently invested in a mutual fund as part of my entire portfolio for over five years and the returns (dividend payout and capital appreciation) has outperformed the NSE all share index.

Also not every body can analyse and take investment decisions regarding equities.

I keep telling people that the inflation rate we use in Nigeria is very flawed especially when we are all aware that data used to compute it is not accurate. The rate of inflation should be determined by a combination of consumer index, balance of trade payments,LIBOR etc and not the apex bank unilaterally setting it.

Finally go through my post again and you will note that I have include "continuous learning" as a criteria for the investment curve to be complete and YES one needs to invest long term in a good and tested mutual fund albeit in small tranches if a sustainable ROI is to be achieved.

I rest my case!



I don't do mutual funds, but my returns by investing over the years on the stock market has consistently given me a better returns than the mutual funds highlighted by you.
Rather than buying mutual fund, I will advice starters to invest in index fund, 95% of mutual funds in Nigeria are out to short change investors.

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Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by oluks05: 3:51pm On Aug 22, 2013
Am surprised about some of d response here. I have been investing in d ARM aggressive growth fund for over 2 yrs now and I have never had any issues with them, in fact I have been impressed dat I plan to even opt my monthly contribution. Am investing for d long term @ least 15yrs so never made any attempt to withdraw/sell. For those saying mutual funds investment is for lazy ppl dat is so not true some of us jst don't have dat time or perhaps interest to monitor stocks. I for sure like am sure many odas too do educate my self and finance/investing but I doubt I have d time for d type of dedication investing in stocks wld demand and ARM does d job for me.
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by Nichobabe(m): 4:18pm On Aug 23, 2013
oluks05: Am surprised about some of d response here. I have been investing in d ARM aggressive growth fund for over 2 yrs now and I have never had any issues with them, in fact I have been impressed dat I plan to even opt my monthly contribution. Am investing for d long term @ least 15yrs so never made any attempt to withdraw/sell. For those saying mutual funds investment is for lazy ppl dat is so not true some of us jst don't have dat time or perhaps interest to monitor stocks. I for sure like am sure many odas too do educate my self and finance/investing but I doubt I have d time for d type of dedication investing in stocks wld demand and ARM does d job for me.

My Brother I don't know anything about ARM but it is good to try and Sell/Buy in the interim and not wait for 15 years to get the shock. Please test the water now. Just my concern
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by plendil: 7:02pm On Oct 15, 2013
WOW!! this is really an eye-opener for me. I almost was getting carried away by the sweet words the Stanbic mutual funds were ofering.

TBills or fixed deposits still remains the best bet for now.
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by plendil: 7:06pm On Oct 15, 2013
manie:



I don't do mutual funds, but my returns by investing over the years on the stock market has consistently given me a better returns than the mutual funds highlighted by you.
Rather than buying mutual fund, I will advice starters to invest in index fund, 95% of mutual funds in Nigeria are out to short change investors.


Which one be that?
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by 735i(m): 11:08pm On Oct 15, 2013
deenee: @ manie.....I can tell you for certain that Stanbic IBTC equity fund and ARM discovery fund have out performed the Nigerian All share index on several occasions even during the stock market meltdown. You can goggle it to confirm my claim.

As indicated in my earlier post, investing in mutual funds has its pros and cons but giving the whole investment a bad name is not appropriate especially for uninformed investors. I have consistently invested in a mutual fund as part of my entire portfolio for over five years and the returns (dividend payout and capital appreciation) has outperformed the NSE all share index.

Also not every body can analyse and take investment decisions regarding equities.

I keep telling people that the inflation rate we use in Nigeria is very flawed especially when we are all aware that data used to compute it is not accurate. The rate of inflation should be determined by a combination of consumer index, balance of trade payments,LIBOR etc and not the apex bank unilaterally setting it.

Finally go through my post again and you will note that I have include "continuous learning" as a criteria for the investment curve to be complete and YES one needs to invest long term in a good and tested mutual fund albeit in small tranches if a sustainable ROI is to be achieved.

I rest my case!


Bros eh!!!
LIBOR? to calculate Nigeria's inflation rate? Hmmm
..na wa oh!!!
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by lancee(m): 10:08pm On Oct 16, 2013
Nosyke:

You are very right bros, more like ponzi scheme.

I invested in Intercontinental funds in 2010, there is no increment whatsoever.
Now they ve changed to ACAP or so. They deliberately made almost impossible to sell.
I called them that I want to sell mine, they said I should come to Lagos (from Abuja) to come and collect my original certificate, (that they caant send it via mail and I can't authorise some other person to collect for me).

@ Op, if you have money you can use it to buy land and keep, its surely better than fund

ACAP decleared dividend last month ,my money got trapped since 06 [oceanic vintage fund ] they called my sister on my behalf to inform her about the dividend
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by Kennyfancy(m): 12:47pm On Sep 30, 2014
So where is the best place to invest ?

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Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by Kennyfancy(m): 12:53pm On Sep 30, 2014
Pls who hav ARM official website, pls i would lov to go through it
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by carpenter(m): 4:42pm On Oct 02, 2014
http://www.arm.com.ng/
Kennyfancy: Pls who hav ARM official website, pls i would lov to go through it

http://www.arm.com.ng/
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by Nobody: 7:29pm On Oct 02, 2014
okpaniokpani: I invested my money in Zenith Equity Mutual Fund for about four(4) years. The fund was never listed on the NSE,activities of the fund were shrouded in secrecy to say the least.
I never got any dividend within these years. I sold out and never looked back. I will never advice any one to buy into any mutual fund in Nigeria. They are greedy bunch of people.

Sorry to hear that. There are a diversity of mutual funds that are listed on the NSE. Look out for one.

In addition, Always carry out a due diligence before putting your money into any liquid investment(s).
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by Nobody: 7:36pm On Oct 02, 2014
Bobbysworld28: I've bn using firstbank's fixed income & mutual funds since last year & no regrets.
But seriously, u guys r scaring me

Don't get scared about a bunch of bad comments here! You are doing fabulous.

Many folks fail to understand the essence of investing in "REGISTERED" mutual funds, probably because they were ripped off from unregistered funds or failed to carry out an in-depth research. I agree with the guy who says mutual funds are for lazy investors. What he fails to state is that not all folks are risk takers!
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by Kennyfancy(m): 12:33pm On Oct 09, 2014
carpenter:
http://www.arm.com.ng/

http://www.arm.com.ng/
pls whch is the best package to invest in with (Arm)
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by Kennyfancy(m): 12:53pm On Oct 09, 2014
oluks05:
Am surprised about some of d response here. I have been investing in d ARM aggressive growth fund for over 2 yrs now and I have never had any issues with them, in fact I have been impressed dat I plan to even opt my monthly contribution. Am investing for d long term @ least 15yrs so never made any attempt to withdraw/sell. For those saying mutual funds investment is for lazy ppl dat is so not true some of us jst don't have dat time or perhaps interest to monitor stocks. I for sure like am sure many odas too do educate my self and finance/investing but I doubt I have d time for d type of dedication investing in stocks wld demand and ARM does d job for me.
pls is that Arm aggresive growth fund the best Arm cn offer or whch one would u advised a student who want to leave some money there for a very lng time to invest, pls help
Re: Mutual Funds In Nigeria: Please Share Your Experience by gentle007(m): 5:02pm On Oct 15, 2014
Have been with ARM since February this year, i get my interest every 3 months. i think they look reliable. My friends that introduced me to them also testified to that. though i want to switch to FBN.

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