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Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by ArchFreelancer(m): 6:29pm On Nov 19, 2014
Nna, this one way this lady talk say no warranty. Make them no try am oh angry so I go pay 5k ni? Mtxheew, they should not just change my mind about this phone on this is my first Infinix phone smh
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by safas20(f): 8:39pm On Nov 19, 2014
ArchFreelancer:
Nna, this one way this lady talk say no warranty. Make them no try am oh angry so I go pay 5k ni? Mtxheew, they should not just change my mind about this phone on this is my first Infinix phone smh
I just change my tourchpad today, its absolutely free, do u want me to upload a pix of d receipt? to prove it?
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by safas20(f): 8:42pm On Nov 19, 2014
4llerbuntu:
Continue making noise about Infinix. the day is coming when you eye will clear and you will understand that there is ZERO support for that device.

Disposable phones with no second hand value. if today that phone bootloops due to any cause that is the end of it. No ROM, not even stock rom anywhere. no parts or spares anywhere.


if na so people like nokia and samsung dey do nii dem for no progress
guy, who told u no spare anywhere, there is 100% full repair at carlcare, if u need a receipt to prove it, ama upload for u, any infinix zero user will be at the VIP session at Carl care, which will first be attended to b4 any oda person, and its free repair!
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by safas20(f): 8:42pm On Nov 19, 2014
ArchFreelancer:
Nna, this one way this lady talk say no warranty. Make them no try am oh angry so I go pay 5k ni? Mtxheew, they should not just change my mind about this phone on this is my first Infinix phone smh
I just change my tourchpad today, its absolutely free, do u want me to upload a pix of d receipt? to prove it?
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by safas20(f): 8:44pm On Nov 19, 2014
Carlcaresophia:
Hi!You can take your phone to repair in Carlcare service center,and you have to pay for it.Thank you!
hey, am sure this is a full face account for carlcare, to prove you are a Bleep account, infinix zero is 100% full and free repair, if u want me to upload a pix of d receipt, ama do that now, I want to prove u are a Bleep account of carlcare, answer this question, where is the new No. for infinix in Opebi, they changed no recently, so giv me d new No for infinix carlcare at opebi!
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by safas20(f): 8:46pm On Nov 19, 2014
therealesttin:



What exactly do you do on your phone that the battery only lasts for 3 hours? What apps do you have installed? What modifications have been made? What games do you play? You need to be more detailed about things like this when advising people. The person you are advising might not be interested in having similar apps as yours. Besides, my own battery lasts for much longer.
hey, what a lie is this, infinix battery last for 3 hours, when I use mine for minimum of 18hours, I don't know why some people are just been found of blackmailing other product, shit!
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by safas20(f): 8:49pm On Nov 19, 2014
madgoat:


I basically just surf the internet and chat. I don't really have apps or play games. My fone hasnt been modified in anyway and its not rooted.
#And yes, with heavy usage it lasts just slightly above 3hours or thereabout.
what a lie! infinix battery is 1920mAh not 120mAh so how can u say it last for 3 hours, I use an infinix zero and I know how long my device stays, I could advice you to do this, goto settings, click on WiFi, click on the option menu, and click advance, when untick everything there, datz wat consume d battery, but Neva d less, if doesn't mean for it to be 3 hours, dat a lie
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by emperorizzy(m): 10:29pm On Nov 19, 2014
safas20:
hey, am sure this is a full face account for carlcare, to prove you are a Bleep account, infinix zero is 100% full and free repair, if u want me to upload a pix of d receipt, ama do that now, I want to prove u are a Bleep account of carlcare, answer this question, where is the new No. for infinix in Opebi, they changed no recently, so giv me d new No for infinix carlcare at opebi!
did youfix it in abj? and how long did they take to repair it
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by madgoat(m): 10:32pm On Nov 19, 2014
safas20:
hey, what a lie is this, infinix battery last for 3 hours, when I use mine for minimum of 18hours, I don't know why some people are just been found of blackmailing other product, shit!
safas20:
what a lie! infinix battery is 1920mAh not 120mAh so how can u say it last for 3 hours, I use an infinix zero and I know how long my device stays, I could advice you to do this, goto settings, click on WiFi, click on the option menu, and click advance, when untick everything there, datz wat consume d battery, but Neva d less, if doesn't mean for it to be 3 hours, dat a lie

Dude, diz ur '18hrs' lie can give u constipation... U better dont give urself haemorrhoids bcoz of diz infinix... undecided

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Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by Julius262(m): 12:10am On Nov 20, 2014
My infinix zero 8-1 don fall break. The touch pad is not working again. Please how can i 'unroot' it so that i can take it to calcare? Please help.
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by Carlcaresophia: 8:54am On Nov 20, 2014
safas20:
hey, am sure this is a full face account for carlcare, to prove you are a Bleep account, infinix zero is 100% full and free repair, if u want me to upload a pix of d receipt, ama do that now, I want to prove u are a Bleep account of carlcare, answer this question, where is the new No. for infinix in Opebi, they changed no recently, so giv me d new No for infinix carlcare at opebi!
Hi!The following is the hot line of carlcare service center in opebi.+23480022752273.Thank you!
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by walex1991(m): 8:59am On Nov 20, 2014
madgoat:


I basically just surf the internet and chat. I don't really have apps or play games. My fone hasnt been modified in anyway and its not rooted.
#And yes, with heavy usage it lasts just slightly above 3hours or thereabout.

Yes dats true...it lasts just about 3 hours with temperature as high as 45°c even on egde network
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by walex1991(m): 9:02am On Nov 20, 2014
safas20:
hey, what a lie is this, infinix battery last for 3 hours, when I use mine for minimum of 18hours, I don't know why some people are just been found of blackmailing other product, shit!


18hours shocked bros u can lie ooo...wtf...Shey na GPRS network u dey use in...guy are u sure u even browse with ur phone at all. Keep quiet if u don't know wat heavy usage means jare
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by yinxfun(m): 12:53pm On Nov 20, 2014
My phone is 2 months old with no single fault amidst all these hullabaloo grin.....

THANK YOU GOD

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Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by LaconicINC: 1:19pm On Nov 20, 2014
KNOW HOW TO INCREASE BATTERY LIFE


BU-808: How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries

The lithium-ion battery works on ion movement between the positive and negative electrodes. In theory such a mechanism should work forever, but cycling, elevated temperature and aging decrease the performance over time. Since batteries are used in demanding environmental conditions, manufacturers take a conservative approach and specify the life of most Li-ion between 300 and 500 discharge/charge cycles.

Counting cycles is not conclusive because a discharge may vary in depth and there are no clearly defined standards of what constitutes a cycle. Read more about What Constitutes a Discharge Cycle?. In lieu of cycle count, some batteries in industrial instruments are date-stamped, but this method is not reliable either because it ignores environmental conditions. A battery may fail within the allotted time due to heavy use or unfavorable temperature conditions, but most quality packs will last considerably longer than what the stamp indicates.

The performance of a battery is measured in capacity, a leading health indicator. Internal resistance and self-discharge also play a role but with modern Li-ion these carry lower significance in predicting the end-of-battery-life. Figure 1 illustrates the capacity drop of 11 Li-polymer batteries that have been cycled at a Cadex laboratory. The 1500mAh pouch cells for smartphones were first charged at a current of 1500mA (1C) to 4.20V/cell and allowed to saturate to 0.05C (75mA) as part of the full charge procedure. The batteries were then discharged at 1500mA to 3.0V/cell, and the cycle was repeated.

Capacity drop as part of cycling


Figure 1: Capacity drop as part of cycling

A pool of new 1500mAh Li-ionbatteries for smartphones is tested on a Cadex C7400 battery analyzer. All 11 pouch packs show a starting capacity of 88–94 percent and decrease in capacity to 73–84 percent after 250 full discharge cycles (2010).

Courtesy of Cadex

Although a battery should deliver 100 percent capacity during the first year of service, it is common to see lower than specified capacities, and shelf life may have contributed to this loss. In addition, manufacturers tend to overrate their batteries; knowing that very few customers would complain. In our test, the expected capacity loss of Li-ion batteries was uniform over the 250 cycles and the batteries performed as expected.

Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, so also does the depth of discharge (DoD) determine the cycle count. The shorter the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine; there is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life, other than to calibrate the fuel gauge on a smart battery once in a while. Read more about Battery Calibration.

Table 2 compares the number of discharge/charge cycles Li-ion can deliver at various DoD levels before the battery capacity drops to 70 percent. The number of discharge cycles depends on many conditions and includes charge voltage, temperature and load currents. Not all Li-ion systems behave the same.

Depth of discharge


Discharge cycles


Table 2: Cycle life as a function of
depth of discharge

A partial discharge reduces stress and prolongs battery life. Elevated temperature and high currents also affect cycle life.

100% DoD

50% DoD

25% DoD

10% DoD


300 – 500

1,200 – 1,500

2,000 – 2,500

3,750 – 4,700

Lithium-ion suffers from stress when exposed to heat, so does keeping a cell at a high charge voltage. A battery dwelling above 30°C (86°F) is considered elevated temperature and for most Li-ion, a voltage above 4.10V/cell is deemed as high voltage. Exposing the battery to high temperature and dwelling in a full state-of-charge for an extended time can be more stressful than cycling. Table 3 demonstrates capacity loss as a function of temperature and SoC.

Temperature


40% charge


100% charge


Table 3: Estimated recoverable capacity when storing Li-ion for one year at various temperatures

Elevated temperature hastens capacity loss. The capacity cannot be restored. Not all Li-ion systems behave the same.

0°C

25°C

40°C

60°C


98%

96%

85%

75%


94%

80%

65%

60%
(after 3 months)

Most Li-ions are charged to 4.20V/cell and every reduction of 0.10V/cell is said to double cycle life. For example, a lithium-ion cell charged to 4.20V/cell typically delivers 300–500 cycles. If charged to only 4.10V/cell, the life can be prolonged to 600–1,000 cycles; 4.00V/cell should deliver 1,200–2,000 and 3.90V/cell 2,400–4,000 cycles. Table 4 summarizes these results. The values are estimate and depend on the type of li-ion-ion battery.

Charge level (V/cell)


Discharge cycles


Capacity at full charge


Table 4: Discharge cycles and capacity
as a function of charge

Every 0.10V drop below 4.20V/cell doubles the cycle; the retained capacity drops accordingly. Raising the voltage above 4.20V/cell stresses the battery and compromises safety.

[4.30]

4.20

4.10

4.00

3.92


[150 – 250]

300 – 500

600 – 1,000

1,200 – 2,000

2,400 – 4,000


~[110%]

100%

~90%

~80%

~75%

For safety reasons, lithium-ion cannot exceed 4.20V/cell. While a higher voltage would boost capacity, over-voltage shortens service life and compromises safety. Figure 5 demonstrates cycle count as a function of charge voltage. At 4.35V, the cycle count is cut in half.

Effects on cycle life at elevated charge voltages




Figure 5: Effects on cycle life at elevated charge voltages

Higher charge voltages boost capacity but lowers cycle life and compromises safety.

Source: Choi et al. (2002)

Chargers for cellular phones, laptops, tablets and digital cameras bring the Li-ion battery to 4.20V/cell. This allows maximum capacity, because the consumer wants nothing less than optimal runtime. Industry, on the other hand, is more concerned about longevity and may choose lower voltage thresholds. Satellites and electric vehicles are examples where longevity is more important than capacity.

Charging to 4.10V/cell the battery holds about 10 percent less capacity than going all the way to 4.20V. In terms of optimal longevity, a voltage limit of 3.92V/cell works best but the capacity would only be about half compared to a 4.20V/cell charge (3.92V/cell is said to eliminate all voltage-related stresses).

Besides selecting the best-suited voltage thresholds for a given application, Li-ion should not remain at the high-voltage ceiling of 4.20V/cell for an extended time. When fully charged, remove the battery and allow to voltage to revert to a more natural level like relaxing after exercise. Although a properly functioning Li-ion charger will terminate charge when the battery is full, some chargers apply a topping charge if the battery terminal voltage drops to a given level. Read more about Charging Lithium-ion.
What the user can do

The author of this essay does not depend on the manufacturer’s specifications alone but also listens to user comments. BatteryUniversity.comis an excellent sounding board to connect with the public and learn about reality. This approach might be unscientific, but it is genuine. When the critical mass speaks, the manufacturers listen. The voice of the multitude is in some ways stronger than laboratory tests performed in sheltered environments.

Tables 2, 3 and 4 look at cycle life as a function of discharge, temperature and charge level. A summary table should be added that also states the Optimal Battery Energy Factor Over Life. While this would help in selecting the optimal battery, battery makers are hesitant to release such a specification freely, and for good reason. A battery is in constant flux and capturing all of its data is exhaustive. A further criterion is price. Batteries can be built to perform better but this comes at a cost.

Let’s look at real-life situations and examine what stresses lithium-ion batteries encounter. Most packs last three to five years. Environmental conditions, and not cycling alone, are a key ingredient to longevity, and the worst situation is keeping a fully charged battery at elevated temperatures. This is the case when running a laptop off the power grid. Under these conditions, a battery will typically last for about two years, whether cycled or not. The pack does not die suddenly but will give lower runtimes with aging.

Even more stressful is leaving a battery in a hot car, especially if exposed to the sun. When not in use, store the battery in a cool place. For long-term storage, manufacturers recommend a 40 percent charge. This allows for some self-discharge while still retaining sufficient charge to keep the protection circuit active. Finding the ideal state-of-charge is not easy; this would require a discharge with appropriate cut-off. Do not worry too much about the state-of-charge; a cool and dry place is more important than SoC. Read more about How to Store Batteries.

Batteries are also exposed to elevated temperature when charging on wireless chargers. The energy transfer from a charging mat to a portable device is 70 to 80 percent and the remaining 20 to 30 percent is lost mostly in heat that is transferred to the battery through the mat. We keep in mind that the mat will cool down once the battery is fully charged. Read more about Charging Without Wires.

Avoid charging a battery faster than 1C; a more moderate charge rate of 0.7C is preferred. Manufacturers of electric powertrains are concerned about super-fast charging of 20 minutes and less. Similarly, harsh discharges should be avoided as also this also adds to battery stress. Read more about Charging Lithium-ion and Ultra-fast Chargers.

Commercial chargers do not allow changing the charge voltage limit. Adding this feature would have advantages, especially for laptops as a means to prolong battery life. When running on extended AC mode, the user could select the “long life” mode and the battery would charge to 4.00V/cell for a standby capacity of about 70 percent. Before traveling, the user would apply the “full charge mode” to bring the charge to 100%. Some laptop manufacturers may offer this feature but often only computer geeks discover them.

Another way to extend battery life is to remove the pack from the laptop when running off the power grid. The Consumer Product Safety Commissionadvises to do this out of concern for overheating and causing a fire. Removing the battery has the disadvantage of losing unsaved work if a power failure occurs. Heat buildup is also a concern when operating a laptop in bed or on a pillow, as this may restrict airflow. Placing a ruler or other object under the laptop will improve air circulation and keep the device cooler.

“Should I disconnect my laptop from the power grid when not in use?” many ask. Under normal circumstances this should not be necessary because once the lithium-ion battery is full the charger discontinues charge and only engages when the battery voltage drops. Most users do not remove the AC power and I like to believe that this practice is safe.

Everyone wants to keep the battery as long as possible, but a battery must often operate in environments that are not conducive to optimal service life. Furthermore, the life of a battery may be cut short by an unexpected failure, and in this respect the battery shares human volatility.

To get a better understanding of what causes irreversible capacity loss in Li-ion batteries, several research laboratories* are performing forensic tests. Scientists dissected failed batteries to find suspected problem areas on the electrodes. Examining an unrolled 1.5-meter-long strip (5 feet) of metal tape coated with oxide reveals that the finely structured nanomaterials have coarsened. Further studies revealed that the lithium ions responsible to shuttle electric charge between the electrodes had diminished on the cathode and had permanently settled on the anode. This results in the cathode having a lower lithium concentration than a new cell, a phenomenon that is irreversible. Knowing the reason for such capacity loss might enable battery manufacturers to prolong battery life in the future.



* Research is performed by the Center for Automotive Research at the Ohio State University in collaboration with Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the National Institute of Standards Technology.
source: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by LaconicINC: 1:27pm On Nov 20, 2014
If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses.
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by LaconicINC: 1:30pm On Nov 20, 2014
A partial discharge reduces stress and prolongs battery life. Elevated temperature and high currents also affect cycle life.
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by Nobody: 2:44pm On Nov 20, 2014
Hey guys. I need help with something. After fixing my sim slot at Carlcare, my phone was restored to factory settings. My upgrade went with it. Now, I'm trying to upgrade it, but it keeps telling me I'm using the latest version, yet, some features such as wake up gesture are no where to be found. Any help concerning this will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by siajiboye: 3:43pm On Nov 20, 2014
Maybe you activate the gesture from the settings..... Anyone else in house who can help our friend?


thatposter1:
Hey guys. I need help with something. After fixing my sim slot at Carlcare, my phone was restored to factory settings. My upgrade went with it. Now, I'm trying to upgrade it, but it keeps telling me I'm using the latest version, yet, some features such as wake up gesture are no where to be found. Any help concerning this will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by ourpride(f): 3:57pm On Nov 20, 2014
Julius262:
My infinix zero 8-1 don fall break. The touch pad is not working again. Please how can i 'unroot' it so that i can take it to calcare? Please help
Sorry! Rooting is not supported at Infinix. Customers decision to root their phones are at their own RISK. Kindly proceed to any carlcare center close to you for assistance on the faulty touch pad.
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by ourpride(f): 4:11pm On Nov 20, 2014
thatposter1:
Hey guys. I need help with something. After fixing my sim slot at Carlcare, my phone was restored to factory settings. My upgrade went with it. Now, I'm trying to upgrade it, but it keeps telling me I'm using the latest version, yet, some features such as wake up gesture are no where to be found. Any help concerning this will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
My advice to you is to calmly revisit carlcare for assistance.
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by Julius262(m): 4:16pm On Nov 20, 2014
ourpride:
Sorry! Rooting is not supported at Infinix. Customers decision to root their phones are at their own RISK. Kindly proceed to any carlcare center close to you for assistance on the faulty touch pad.
Seriously?? Oh my Jeez!!! I'm sooo feeling relieved now. Will take it 2mao. Thanks 4 d info. Buh please do u know how long it will take? Cuz i dnt stay in Abuja or close to any calcare. So i wanna knw if it will take more dan a day to fix it. Thanks again.
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by Julius262(m): 4:19pm On Nov 20, 2014
safas20:
I just change my tourchpad today, its absolutely free, do u want me to upload a pix of d receipt? to prove it?
Bro please, how long did they take to fix it for u? I wanna knw cuz mine broke this week and i'm preparing to take it to abj.
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by ourpride(f): 5:17pm On Nov 20, 2014
HARMONIEE:
download Internet speed meter.apk
Go to googleplay and download an app that can manage your network speed,that should do.
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by ourpride(f): 5:26pm On Nov 20, 2014
Julius262:


Thanks brother. Pleas will they fix the screen for me free?
Yes they would.

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Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by ourpride(f): 5:29pm On Nov 20, 2014
Mizzzbeee:
look up ur answer is der..... And as for how may days dats for d care center to tell u
Kindly proceed to carlcare for assistance with your receipt.
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by Culube: 6:42pm On Nov 20, 2014
ourpride:
Kindly proceed to carlcare for assistance with your receipt.
Pls infinix team.... My infinix zero headphones is not loud ooo, please I need advice on what to do. I really need ur help
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by detunj: 9:58pm On Nov 20, 2014
Please what's the name of the plant wallpaper that came with the infinix grin angry
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by godG: 10:43pm On Nov 20, 2014
Guys, please, can't the OS of this rooted shii be updated? The OTA stuff keep telling me "Is the latest version" when Lollipop is available already!
Re: Infinix zero discussion thread! by siajiboye: 10:54pm On Nov 20, 2014
hehe, dont think you can do this upgrade via OTA

godG:
Guys, please, can't the OS of this rooted shii be updated? The OTA stuff keep telling me "Is the latest version" when Lollipop is available already!

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