Radoillo:
There's also Miss Asian America, Miss Hispanic America and probably a bunch of other ethnic-minority-based pageants. I wonder if people are calling that racist too, or are just bothered about African-Americans.

This thread reminds me of something a sensible white guy said about the people calling the 'Black Lives Matter' Movement racist. These people had been saying that 'Black Lives Matter' implies that White lives don't matter; that the appropriate tag should have been 'Black Lives Matter, Too'.

The (sensible) white guy's reply was, "Be thankful that you don't even need a 'White Lives Matter' Movement."

Whites should be thankful that they do not need an NAACP, a BET, a Miss White America pageant, and such.

Amen, so true there are Miss Asia America and Miss Hispanic America but nobody weirdly brings those ones up but the african american beauty pageants are brought up and it makes me conclude that they are bothered by the african american one more. I think its because the history between african americans and white americans is very bitter and more deep then the history between white americans and other minorities like Asians and hispanics(which is not a race mind you, so white hispanics may have a different experience from non-white hispanics in America).

I'm surprised a white man made those statements lol, white americans are actually lucky that they don't need such things as the NAACP or a Miss white america pageant.

anonymous6:


Amen, so true there are Miss Asia America and Miss Hispanic America but nobody weirdly brings those ones up but the african american beauty pageants are brought up and it makes me conclude that they are bothered by the african american one more. I think its because the history between african americans and whte americans is very bitter and more deep then the history between white americans and other minorities like Asians and hispanics (which is not a race mind you, so white hispanics may have a different experience from non-white hispanics in America).

I'm surprised a white man made those statements lol, white americans are actually lucky that they don't need such things as the NAACP or a Miss white america pageant.

The sentence I've highlighted is actually a great point, and explains why a black pageant may ruffle more feathers than an Asian-American one.

About the white guy, I know a number of white people like that. Sometimes it even comes across like they are trying too hard not to be racist. I'm almost like, "Dude chill, I get it. You are not racist."

Radoillo:


The sentence I've highlighted I'd actually a great point, and explains why a black pageant may ruffle more feathers than an Asian-American one.

Exactly, Asian american history with white americans has been pretty decent for the exception of world war 2 when asians were discriminated in the west coast due to Japan being on Germany's side and bombing pearl Harbor but besides that Asians are living it in America. Hispanics are a second group of people, first of all they are not a race so that adds to the complexities of them but in the end of the day it's not intense historically with white americans like african americans However I will add that there has been for the past decades and a growing hatred towards them especially in the southwestern and some southern states in America cause of illegal immigrants coming from Mexico going into those states particularily Mexicans. In the end of the day the history between white americans and africans americans was more damaging sadly, the only other group that got it worst off in history is Native Americans in their own land.

Radoillo:
About the white guy, I know a number of white people like that. Sometimes it even comes across like they are trying too hard not to be racist. I'm almost like, "Dude chill, I get it. You are not racist."

Yea it is funny lol, I know some white people like that as well they are not racist but caution how they communicate about race especially when it comes african americans.

anonymous6:


I don't think the pageant is racist to be honest and that includes BET cause of the history of America when it comes to race. So racial pageants, BET, Telemundo and etc were inevitably bound to happen, so people shouldn't really complain in the end of the day, thats why America is the most complex in the world when it comes to race.

yes I was born and raised in America

Yeah you're very correct.

Anyone who complains is either white or silly lol and I can't help either of them. They should go and read a history book. Why are there even black universities and women universities and orginizations for all these gay people. Oppressed groups.

Mmmm the american-ness shows. Nice one.

MrsPhyno:

Yeah you're very correct.

Anyone who complains is either white or silly lol and I can't help either of them. They should go and read a history book. Why are there even black universities and women universities and orginizations for all these gay people. Oppressed groups.

Mmmm the american-ness shows. Nice one.

exactly in the end of the day if you've noticed all oppressed groups throughout history in America eventually end up having their own organizations, univerisities, pageants and etc it's inevitable.

yea your not the first to say that lol

anonymous6:


I think what you bring up has some points but in America it is complex especially when it comes to things such as beauty pageants among the races. As you said the majority rules most things so they really don't need to have things exclusively for themselves, its the minoritties that are affected and thats why things like this spring up to be honest so in the end of the day there is no right or wrong.

Look at England for example they have a Miss Britain but black british women are not represented that you have beauty pageants like:
Miss Black Africa UK
http://www.missblackafrica.com/
Miss Caribbean UK
http://www.misscaribbeanuk.com/

Any way the UK is a different story to a extent cause its a european country as opposed to America where the country originally belong to the Native Americans so other races don't have original claim to the land.

Ok I get your point now. But of what use would the result of such race-exclusive org be to the majority and in fact the entire mainstream org canopy,my point being that,for example now,a black exclusive pageant will mean nothing to white rather it'd only mean something like "most beautiful african american" whereas the white predominant pageants encompasses of all races and what not.

PreciousBro:


Ok I get your point now. But of what use would the result of such race-exclusive org be to the majority and in fact the entire mainstream org canopy,my point being that,for example now,a black exclusive pageant will mean nothing to white rather it'd only mean something like "most beautiful african american" whereas the white predominant pageants encompasses of all races and what not.

Yea I see what you are saying, I think it is meant to mean something for african american girls/women to celebrate their beauty and individual selves amongst themselves and not towards white people. True the white dominate encompasses all races but those other races presence is not as significant but I understand you. America and its race complexities.