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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by blueAgent(m): 11:12pm On May 28, 2016
Sarassin:


Nowhere on these pages have I ever stated that I am an atheist.

You are still wriggling around like a worm on a hook. Now, why don't you answer your own questions? Why does your deity Yahweh, condone, instigate and propagate mass genocidal killings, gratuitous violence and brutal acts against little babies? do you have opinions of your own or are you just a mass regurgitator of Christian apologetics?


Clown. if God decides to rule us like a tyrant or sadist. will you be able to fight him?
Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:19pm On May 28, 2016
Sarassin:


Nowhere on these pages have I ever stated that I am an atheist.

You are still wriggling around like a worm on a hook. Now, why don't you answer your own questions? Why does your deity Yahweh, condone, instigate and propagate mass genocidal killings, gratuitous violence and brutal acts against little babies? do you have opinions of your own or are you just a mass regurgitator of Christian apologetics?

God is not subject to his laws


https://www.nairaland.com/3031728/reasons-why-god-not-subject
Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:32pm On May 28, 2016
blueAgent:



Clown. if God decides to rule us like a tyrant or sadist. will you be able to fight him?

Atheists are dumb . God the giver of life decides to take their lives to preclude becoming vanquished and ending up in Hell when they become adults , how is that a problem ? And these dolts are still the ones clamoring for the rights to be given to a woman to abort her baby ?

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by Nobody: 2:10pm On May 29, 2016
blueAgent:



Clown. if God decides to rule us like a tyrant or sadist. will you be able to fight him?

Thank you for your very eloquent point. Surely your god is not a tyrannical, sadistic, bloodthirsty baby-dismembering deity is it? For a moment there I thought God was compassionate and forgiving. Don't mind me.

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by PastorAIO: 2:38pm On May 29, 2016
Sarassin:


Thank you for your very eloquent point. Surely your god is not a tyrannical, sadistic, bloodthirsty baby-dismembering deity is it? For a moment there I thought God was compassionate and forgiving. Don't mind me.

That's not even my own inside. My own is, Why can he not come and do his tyranny and sadism for himself. Why is he always sending humans, who happen to be equally as tyrannical and sadistic as himself, to do the job for him.

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:09pm On May 29, 2016
Sarassin:


Unequalled and unrivalled barbarity, justified by religious fanaticism and the morally bankrupt. ISIS would be proud of you.

I can see that you are bent on tempting fate. If you were wise you would have learnt from what became of the enemies of God.

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:11pm On May 29, 2016
Brigance:


Indeed, All that is required to be an atheist is definitely, to read the bible.

The fastest atheist-maker, is a love for sin and a desire to get away from moral accountability to God.

Watch --> www.evolutionvsGod.com

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:17pm On May 29, 2016
PastorAIO:


That's not even my own inside. My own is, Why can he not come and do his tyranny and sadism for himself. Why is he always sending humans, who happen to be equally as tyrannical and sadistic as himself, to do the job for him.

Cattle stand at the slaughterhouse waiting for their turn. Cattle are dumb.

Sheep follow the "Judas" sheep to the slaughter. Sheep are dumb.

Atheists are waiting to die and don't do anything about it...
when they could find everlasting life, if they obeyed the gospel.
See if you can figure what sheep, cattle, and atheists have in common.

If you're an atheist and you think that I'm provoking you, you're right. I'm provoking you to think. This is not a game. It's more serious than a heart attack. Think about your eternity. See www.needGod.com for details of how to find everlasting life.

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by Brigance(m): 3:26pm On May 29, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


The fastest atheist-maker, is a love for sin and a desire to get away from moral accountability to God.

Watch --> www.evolutionvsGod.com

This is utterly ridiculous and equally worrisome.

I wonder how easy it is for you to conclude that unless someone subscribe to your version of god, he can't be morally responsible. Is this how low you think of humanity?

No wonder it is very easy for you lots to be judgemental, hypocritical and bigoted.

Even the Samaritan who aided the hapless fellow in the bible wasn't even a Christian.

Nigeria and Africa, with its replete religious juggernism, how much help has it been?

I'm sorry to say this, even Jesus himself would be disappointed with you on this.

wow.

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by PastorAIO: 3:42pm On May 29, 2016
Threats threats threats. When you are at your wits end all you can resort to are threats.

OLAADEGBU:


Cattle stand at the slaughterhouse waiting for their turn. Cattle are dumb.

Sheep follow the "Judas" sheep to the slaughter. Sheep are dumb.

Atheists are waiting to die and don't do anything about it...
when they could find everlasting life, if they obeyed the gospel.
See if you can figure what sheep, cattle, and atheists have in common.

If you're an atheist and you think that I'm provoking you, you're right. I'm provoking you to think. This is not a game. It's more serious than a heart attack. Think about your eternity. See www.needGod.com for details of how to find everlasting life.
Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:46pm On May 29, 2016
Brigance:


This is utterly ridiculous and equally worrisome.

I wonder how easy it is for you to conclude that unless someone subscribe to your version of god, he can't be morally responsible. Is this how low you think of humanity?

No wonder it is very easy for you lots to be judgemental, hypocritical and bigoted.

Even the Samaritan who aided the hapless fellow in the bible wasn't even a Christian.

Nigeria and Africa, with its replete religious juggernism, how much help has it been?

I'm sorry to say this, even Jesus himself would be disappointed with you on this.

wow.

"They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not" (Deuteronomy 32:17)

If you worship any god other than the true God of creation and redemption you are worshipping fallen angels which is the breaking of the first commandment. cool
Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:07pm On May 29, 2016
Sarassin:


Thank you for your very eloquent point. Surely your god is not a tyrannical, sadistic, bloodthirsty baby-dismembering deity is it? For a moment there I thought God was compassionate and forgiving. Don't mind me.

Let's see how you are going to defend yourself on the Judgment Day. embarassed

A criminal was once arrested for a heinous crime. Even though the evidence of his guilt was overwhelming, he wanted to defend himself rather than have faith in professionals. He decided to use the following defense.

1. He had never seen the judge, so he concluded that he didn't exist.
2. The judge that he didn't believe existed, was immoral.
3. The law books were full of contradictions.
4. The criminal, despite his crimes and guilt, thought he was a good person.

How true are the words "He who defends himself in court has a fool for a client." shocked

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:11pm On May 29, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Let's see how you are going to defend yourself on the Judgment Day. embarassed

A criminal was once arrested for a heinous crime. Even though the evidence of his guilt was overwhelming, he wanted to defend himself rather than have faith in professionals. He decided to use the following defense.

1. He had never seen the judge, so he concluded that he didn't exist.
2. The judge that he didn't believe existed, was immoral.
3. The law books were full of contradictions.
4. The criminal, despite his crimes and guilt, thought he was a good person.

How true are the words "He who defends himself in court has a fool for a client." shocked

Lol . The petty reasons they give though
Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:13pm On May 29, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Lol . The petty reasons they give though

Can you imagine how they are convinced that the God they believe doesn't exist is immoral? undecided
Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by Brigance(m): 6:00pm On May 29, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


"They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not" (Deuteronomy 32:17)

If you worship any god other than the true God of creation and redemption you are worshipping fallen angels which is the breaking of the first commandment. cool

Keep going round in your circles.
Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by Nobody: 6:29pm On May 29, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


I can see that you are bent on tempting fate. If you were wise you would have learnt from what became of the enemies of God.
Let's see how you are going to defend yourself on the Judgment Day. embarassed

A criminal was once arrested for a heinous crime. Even though the evidence of his guilt was overwhelming, he wanted to defend himself rather than have faith in professionals. He decided to use the following defense.

1. He had never seen the judge, so he concluded that he didn't exist.
2. The judge that he didn't believe existed, was immoral.
3. The law books were full of contradictions.
4. The criminal, despite his crimes and guilt, thought he was a good person.

How true are the words "He who defends himself in court has a fool for a client." shocked

I have goldfish with more intelligence than you. You see, I would rather take my chances in the great unknown any day of the week than pin my hopes of eternity on the wrathful vengeful bloodthirsty deity whose devotion you so assiduously proclaim, but that’s just me.

And who defines the enemies of God? You, or the equally morally bankrupt jet-fuelling, fornicating, Gucci wearing charlatans masquerading as religious leaders? You say your god condones acts of violence and blood-thirstiness, but it is all too obvious that you justify these actions so that should the need arise in the future, you may all rise up in your deluded fanaticism and do it all over again.

Where in the history of the world has any god visibly and expressly ordered acts of violence on human beings? You attribute the instigation of heinous acts of violence to god and perpetuate a lie of epic proportions fuelling a grand delusion. Is it not the case that the violent actions descriptive of the OT were actions meted out by men of baser instincts and neatly justified and carried out in the name of Yahweh? Christians today gleefully applaud the fact that Yahweh supposedly “smote thousands of Amalekites” and who cares if Samson wore a necklace of Philistine fore-skins a zillion years ago? What exactly is there to applaud in that? Weren’t these the actions of men pursuing their own hideous agenda, i.e conquests, slavery, rape and pillage? Is it a requirement of Christianity that Christians must be intellectually bereft or wilfully blind? Do you understand that silence implies complicity?

You should have quit whilst you were ahead, but it seems the only thing left for you and your cohorts to offer are nauseating apologetics, infantile synonyms and risible inconsequential threats of hell and damnation.

You should take your own advise and get yourself a good after-life lawyer, you may find you need one when you stand before your vengeful deity.

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by Nobody: 6:39pm On May 29, 2016
PastorAIO:


That's not even my own inside. My own is, Why can he not come and do his tyranny and sadism for himself. Why is he always sending humans, who happen to be equally as tyrannical and sadistic as himself, to do the job for him.

With people like the OP, the sadistic one can put his feet up and the devil can take a vacation for a millennium.
Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by blueAgent(m): 7:48am On Jun 02, 2016
Sarassin:


Thank you for your very eloquent point. Surely your god is not a tyrannical, sadistic, bloodthirsty baby-dismembering deity is it? For a moment there I thought God was compassionate and forgiving. Don't mind me.


God is love and he loves humanity more than we love ourselves.

When God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah it was becos of their Sins.where their no Children there? Same with when God destroyed the world with flood. of cause there were Children there also. so why do you atheist emphasis the one of , God asking the children of isrealities to kill children.look God has the right and capacity to judge and punish those who offend him including children.
Remember God said i will vist the inquity of those who hate me upon their children even to the fourth generation.
We are living is becos of God's grace and mercy.

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by Nobody: 10:45am On Jun 02, 2016
blueAgent:



God is love and he loves humanity more than we love ourselves.

When God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah it was becos of their Sins.where their no Children there? Same with when God destroyed the world with flood. of cause there were Children there also. so why do you atheist emphasis the one of , God asking the children of isrealities to kill children.look God has the right and capacity to judge and punish those who offend him including children.
Remember God said i will vist the inquity of those who hate me upon their children even to the fourth generation.
We are living is becos of God's grace and mercy.

Please get your facts right, I am not an atheist.

You have stated that God is Love, I agree, I believe that is the greatest statement of any religion. But somehow you contrive to take this expression and attribute it to some of the most aggressive and unremittingly violent actions of your deity, only an un-charitable Christian can accomplish this.

I have children, I love them probably more than they love themselves, they will be naughty and probably mightily offend me several times over, but regardless, I am not about to kill them anytime soon, and that is just fatherly love!

You talk about a God who has created sentient beings, with capacity to give and receive love and you see no contradictions in then claiming that, that same God summarily kills his creations on a whim. I am sorry, I cannot take you or your religion seriously.

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:15am On Jun 08, 2016
Sarassin:



I have goldfish with more intelligence than you. You see, I would rather take my chances in the great unknown any day of the week than pin my hopes of eternity on the wrathful vengeful bloodthirsty deity whose devotion you so assiduously proclaim, but that’s just me.

And who defines the enemies of God? You, or the equally morally bankrupt jet-fuelling, fornicating, Gucci wearing charlatans masquerading as religious leaders? You say your god condones acts of violence and blood-thirstiness, but it is all too obvious that you justify these actions so that should the need arise in the future, you may all rise up in your deluded fanaticism and do it all over again.

Where in the history of the world has any god visibly and expressly ordered acts of violence on human beings? You attribute the instigation of heinous acts of violence to god and perpetuate a lie of epic proportions fuelling a grand delusion. Is it not the case that the violent actions descriptive of the OT were actions meted out by men of baser instincts and neatly justified and carried out in the name of Yahweh? Christians today gleefully applaud the fact that Yahweh supposedly “smote thousands of Amalekites” and who cares if Samson wore a necklace of Philistine fore-skins a zillion years ago? What exactly is there to applaud in that? Weren’t these the actions of men pursuing their own hideous agenda, i.e conquests, slavery, rape and pillage? Is it a requirement of Christianity that Christians must be intellectually bereft or wilfully blind? Do you understand that silence implies complicity?

You should have quit whilst you were ahead, but it seems the only thing left for you and your cohorts to offer are nauseating apologetics, infantile synonyms and risible inconsequential threats of hell and damnation.

You should take your own advise and get yourself a good after-life lawyer, you may find you need one when you stand before your vengeful deity.

Here's another suggested answer to the OP. Let's hope you and your bedfellows will be able to comprehend it. undecided

https://carm.org/bible-difficulties/joshua-esther/why-would-god-order-destruction-men-women-and-children

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by Nobody: 1:53pm On Jun 08, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Here's another suggested answer to the OP. Let's hope you and your bedfellows will be able to comprehend it. undecided

https://carm.org/bible-difficulties/joshua-esther/why-would-god-order-destruction-men-women-and-children

Earth to OLAADEGBU calling, it seems you are still stuck in the year 1000BC, I have news for you. In the common era year 2016 we no longer cut off men’s foreskins as spoils of war to present to Yahweh, we no longer treat women as chattels, we don’t discriminate against people on the basis of their skin, colour, religion or sexuality, need I go on?

The title of your link says it all. You should know….I don’t read Christian apologetics.

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Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by Nobody: 7:07pm On Jun 08, 2016
PastorAIO:



No o! Don't send him back to bed. Let him post and post and post. It is all getting exposed.

His tacit admission is that Yahweh is no better than the nations of history. Nasty people did it so it's okay for yahweh to do it. The measure of Yahweh is the lowest depths of human depravity.

Please Muafrika, continue.
I missed this one.

I am more vengeance oriented than my fellow Christians here. It's because I know what is in men. It's pathetic. That God sits there and watches all the foolishness that men have to offer and still give them days upon days irritates me. Away with wickedness already. The devils have had Six thousand years and still drink blood in the morning, noon and in the dead night, and still have the guts to call God wicked.

Am all for vengeance. It's about time that those who have lived by the sword start dying by it. Because that is what the wicked do all day long. They lay snares, judge and bind and destroy, and they shall be likewise ensnared, likewise bound, and likewise destroyed.

As for other nations, they are part of the house of the wicked, and the sword is coming for them.
Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:51am On Jun 13, 2016
Brigance:


Keep going round in your circles.

Are you accusing me of circular reasoning? undecided
Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:51am On Jun 24, 2016
Sarassin:


Earth to OLAADEGBU calling, it seems you are still stuck in the year 1000BC, I have news for you. In the common era year 2016 we no longer cut off men’s foreskins as spoils of war to present to Yahweh, we no longer treat women as chattels, we don’t discriminate against people on the basis of their skin, colour, religion or sexuality, need I go on?

The title of your link says it all. You should know….I don’t read Christian apologetics.

Are you one of the uncircumcised Philistines? shocked
Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:47am On Jun 30, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Here's another suggested answer to the OP. Let's hope you and your bedfellows will be able to comprehend it. undecided

https://carm.org/bible-difficulties/joshua-esther/why-would-god-order-destruction-men-women-and-children

Why would God order the destruction of men, women, and children?
by Matt Slick

"Thus says the Lord of hosts, 'I will punish Amalek for what he did to Israel, how he set himself against him on the way while he was coming up from Egypt. 3 'Now go and strike Amalek and utterly destroy all that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey," (1 Samuel 15:2-3).

The Amalekites, who were descendents of Esau, had been longtime enemies of Israel. They fought against Israel at Rephidim (Exodus 17:8.) Apparently, they "entertained a deep-seated grudge against them, especially as the rapid prosperity and marvellous experience of Israel showed that the blessing contained in the birthright [Jacob and Esau] was taking effect."1 They were a constant threat to Israel. Therefore, God said to Moses in Exodus 17:14 "Write this in a book as a memorial, and recite it to Joshua, that I will utterly blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven."

God lawfully has the right to execute judgment upon anyone. The Bible says that all people have sinned against God and are under his righteous judgment. Therefore, their execution is not an arbitrary killing nor is it murder. Murder is the unlawful taking of life. Killing is the lawful taking of life. For example, we can lawfully take a life in defense of our selves, our families, our nations, etc.

When God authorizes the nation of Israel to wipe out a people, it is a lawful execution due to their rebellion and sin against God. Furthermore, such an extermination can be seen to be merciful by delivering the young into the hands of the Lord and possibly saving their souls by not giving them time to become "utterly sinful".2 Additionally, further generations that would have arisen from the perverse culture, are likewise prevented from coming into existence and spreading their sin.

Finally, one of the reasons that the Lord is so strong in the Old Testament and orders the killing of people is to ensure that the future messianic line would remain intact. The enemy, Satan, began his attempt to destroy God's people in the Garden of Eden, by also trying to corrupt the world (which led to Noah's Flood), by trying to destroy Israel with attacking armies, and by encouraging Israel to fall into idolatry by exposure to other cultures as well as intermarrying women from those cultures. The result of both the idolatry and the interbreeding would have been the failure of the prophecies that foretold of the coming Messiah which specified which family line the Messiah would come through. The Messiah, Jesus, would be the one who would die for the sins of the world and without that death there would be no atonement. Without the atonement, all people would be lost. So, God was ensuring the arrival of the Messiah via the destruction of the ungodly.
Re: Why Did God Condone Such Terrible Violence In The Old Testament? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:36pm On Sep 14, 2016
The atheist has no argument.

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