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Re: All Atheists, Fall In by plaetton: 3:21pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Yes and No

Yes , because in diabolism one can communicate with the devil as a materialized entity or his cohorts , act like him , carry out orders . And no , as regards to our realm , the devil is a spirit being .

Hilarious.

Again, my point has been proven.

imaginary = invisible= make shyt up as you go.

grin

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Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:30pm On Nov 15, 2016
plaetton:


Hilarious.

Again, my point has been proven.

imaginary = invisible= make shyt up as you go.

grin

I ... I ... I just said talked about communicating with the devil - as a materialized entity - in diabolism . How about actually practicing diabolism before you conclude that the devil is imaginary and those practicing it are deluded .

You , just like your ilks , love conjectures don't you ? wink
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by jonbellion(m): 3:35pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


We are all born atheists .

Atheists say there is no God , are babies saying there is no God
it's more if agnostic
We are all agnostic
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by jonbellion(m): 3:38pm On Nov 15, 2016
JackBizzle:



For what is dead may never die but rises again harder and stronger.



May Seun, your servant be born again in the sea as you were.
Bless him with stone. Bless him with steel.
Listen to the waves. Listen to the god.
He is speaking to us and he says we shall have no king but Seun Osewa.
Let the sea wash your follies and your vanities away
Let the old Seun drown. Let his lungs fill with seawater.
Let the fish eat the scales off his eyes. What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger.
What is dead may never die.
lol some game of thrones sh*t
The ironborn are wierdos tho
Lol you worship the drowned God? grin

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Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:40pm On Nov 15, 2016
jonbellion:
it's more if agnostic
We are all agnostic

Agnostics say it is not possible to know if God exists or not . Are babies saying that it is not possible to know if God exists or not ?

Anyway , you know the answer . The point is , babies should not be labeled - theist , atheist , deist , agnostic whatever - because they are none of those .

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Re: All Atheists, Fall In by JackBizzle: 3:41pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I ... I ... I just said talked about communicating with the devil - as a materialized entity - in diabolism . How about actually practicing diabolism before you conclude that the devil is imaginary and those practicing it are deluded .

You , just like your ilks , love conjectures don't you ? wink


You communicate with imaginary beings?


See wetin smoking oshogbo weed with bible pages can do to your brain?
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by JackBizzle: 3:42pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Agnostics say it is not possible to know if God exists or not . Are babies saying that it is not possible to know if God exists or not ?

Anyway , you know the answer . The point is , babies should not be labeled - theist , atheist , deist , agnostic whatever - because they are none of those .


Babies are true agnostics- they have no opinion/belief towards god.

An agnostic ignorance.....

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Re: All Atheists, Fall In by jonbellion(m): 3:43pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Agnostics say it is not possible to know if God exists or not . Are babies saying that it is not possible to know if God exists or not ?

Anyway , you know the answer . The point is , babies should not be labeled - theist , atheist , deist , agnostic whatever - because they are none of those .
depends
You are using the dictionary meaning
But babies still don't know
They don't know if its impossible to know yet
They just don't know

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Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:44pm On Nov 15, 2016
JackBizzle:



You communicate with imaginary beings?


Calling them imaginary beings does not make one .
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by JackBizzle: 3:46pm On Nov 15, 2016
jonbellion:
lol some game of thrones sh*t
The ironborn are wierdos tho
Lol you worship the drowned God? grin

Aye! I have paid the iron price on Nairaland.

You will address me as Lord Jack of Bizzle of the Iron Islands
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by jonbellion(m): 3:53pm On Nov 15, 2016
But babies don't believe in a God
And they are not claiming there is no God too
So basically by this definition babies are actually atheists
Agnostic atheists

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Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:59pm On Nov 15, 2016
jonbellion:
depends
You are using the dictionary meaning
But babies still don't know
They don't know if its impossible to know yet
They just don't know
JackBizzle:



Babies are true agnostics- they have no opinion/belief towards god.

An agnostic ignorance.....

Agnosticism , theism , atheism , deism , panentheism whatever are all beliefs . Babies lack the ability to believe. to hold opinions etc

Atheism got redefined to lack of belief in God just to cozen people into thinking that religious indoctrination leads to belief in God therefore babies are atheists . One must be omniscient to make this declaration - There is no God - and since no human is that , its a belief that there are no gods . Same with the theological/philosophical propositions on God's existence

Its as simple as ABC . Atheists galls running around obfuscating simple terms because papa Richard told them to .

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Re: All Atheists, Fall In by JackBizzle: 4:10pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Calling them imaginary beings does not make one .

They are imaginary. They exist nowhere except in the minds of those that believe in them.

Where is the devil located? What does he look like, if he exists?
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by JackBizzle: 4:15pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:



Agnosticism , theism , atheism , deism , panentheism whatever are all beliefs . Babies lack the ability to believe. to hold opinions etc

Atheism got redefined to lack of belief in God just to cozen people into thinking that religious indoctrination leads to belief in God therefore babies are atheists . But going ad fundum , you'd see that atheism originated from the Greek word atheos which means "without gods" or "no deities" . One must be omniscient to make this declaration and since no human is that , its a belief that there are no gods . Same with the theological/philosophical propositions on God's existence

Its as simple as ABC . Atheists galls running around obfuscating simple terms because papa Richard told them to .



Agnosticism is not a belief- depending on the definition.

If one takes the defintion of agnosticism as "not having a definite belief in the existence or non-existence of God", then it is not a belief.



Guyyy
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:19pm On Nov 15, 2016
JackBizzle:


They are imaginary. They exist nowhere except in the minds of those that believe in them.

Where is the devil located? What does he look like, if he exists?

Here's how you'd make a false conclusion :-

If I say I don't know , you'd conclude that since I cant tell you what the devil looks like or the location of his abode then he does not exist . But this is an appeal to ignorance fallacy - the devil does not exist because Ebuka can't provide proof of his existence .

I think you should ask people who practice diabolism to disclose this information - they are in a much better position .
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by JackBizzle: 4:27pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Here's how you'd make a false conclusion :-

If I say I don't know , you'd conclude that since I cant tell you what the devil looks like or the location of his abode then he does not exist . But this is an appeal to stone fallacy - the devil does not exist because Ebuka can't provide proof of his existence .

I think you should ask people who practice diabolism to disclose this information - they are in a much better position .


It is plain ridiculous that you claim to know the devil exists but can not put forward any tangible proof of existence
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:32pm On Nov 15, 2016
JackBizzle:




Agnosticism is not a belief- depending on the definition.

If one takes the defintion of agnosticism as "not having a definite belief in the existence or non-existence of God", then it is not a belief.



Guyyy

Here's the definition of an agnostic . Agnosticism involves having a belief .

-- And I think atheism as regards to the basic definition "without gods" means having no personal god(s) . Because at that time , the Anicent Greeks practiced Hellenic polytheism , they had pantheons of gods and people believed these gods played significant roles in the affairs of man and functionality of nature or its constituents and they were worshiped and reverenced .

"Without gods " was pejorative and that was how atheos was coined - those "without gods" rejected the gods worshiped by a larger society (during the time of the Ancient Greeks ). And only believers of personal gods worshiped their gods . So this means that those "without gods" were not necessarily atheists , they didn't just worship any gods .

Deists also reject the worship of gods or any form of reverence of gods because they repudiated immanence of deities . And classical deism also existed during the time of the Ancient Greeks !!! This means the deists were called atheists because they didn't worship any gods which is a blatant misnomer

Oh dear God ! Atheism is full of false hood !!! shocked shocked shocked

cc : 4kings , Muafrika2

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Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 4:39pm On Nov 15, 2016
JackBizzle:



It is plain ridiculous that you claim to know the devil exists but can not put forward any tangible proof of existence

Oh no bro . There's the evidence for his existence , all what atheists do is to reject . Rejection does not mean that the evidence has been automatically invalidated . It simply means refusal to accept no matter how cogent it is .
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by jonbellion(m): 4:57pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:



Agnosticism , theism , atheism , deism , panentheism whatever are all beliefs . Babies lack the ability to believe. to hold opinions etc

Atheism got redefined to lack of belief in God just to cozen people into thinking that religious indoctrination leads to belief in God therefore babies are atheists . One must be omniscient to make this declaration - There is no God - and since no human is that , its a belief that there are no gods . Same with the theological/philosophical propositions on God's existence

Its as simple as ABC . Atheists galls running around obfuscating simple terms because papa Richard told them to .
Agnostism references a knowledge claim
Atheism references a belief claim
A baby is as agnostic as a fish
And who is "papa Richard" undecided
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by Nobody: 5:02pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Here's the definition of an agnostic . Agnosticism involves having a belief .

-- And I think atheism as regards to the basic definition "without gods" means having no personal god(s) . Because at that time , the Anicent Greeks practiced Hellenic polytheism , they had pantheons of gods and people believed these gods played significant roles in the affairs of man and functionality of nature or its constituents and they were worshiped and reverenced .

"Without gods " was pejorative and that was how atheos was coined - those "without gods" rejected the gods worshiped by a larger society (during the time of the Ancient Greeks ). And only believers of personal gods worshiped their gods . So this means that those "without gods" were not necessarily atheists , they didn't just worship any gods .

Deists also reject the worship of gods or any form of reverence of gods because they repudiated immanence of deities . And classical deism also existed during the time of the Ancient Greeks !!! This means the deists were called atheists which is a blatant misnomer

Oh dear God ! Atheism is full of false hood !!! shocked shocked shocked

cc : 4kings , Muafrika2

I gave up on these sub atheist classifications. Whoever is inventing them has a lot of time on their hands undecided

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Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:07pm On Nov 15, 2016
jonbellion:
Agnostism references a knowledge claim
Atheism references a belief claim

See my latest response to JackBizzle

A baby is as agnostic as a fish

wow

And who is "papa Richard" undecided

Guess smiley
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:07pm On Nov 15, 2016
Muafrika2:


I gave up on these sub atheist classifications. Whoever is inventing them has a lot of time on their hands undecided

Its crazy grin grin
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by jonbellion(m): 5:15pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


See my latest response to JackBizzle



wow



Guess smiley
Ebuka....
Do babies believe in God
Yes or no
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by jonbellion(m): 5:20pm On Nov 15, 2016
Btw if you are referring to Dawkins
There is no athiest high priest
I look at him as an evolutionary biologist
I've read the ancestors tale and the greatest show on earth
Not the God delusion tho
But the bottom line is there is no athiest high priest
I don't think there's an athiest code
Or an atheist oath
Or a creed
Or a holy book

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Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:24pm On Nov 15, 2016
jonbellion:
Ebuka....
Do babies believe in God
Yes or no

Bro , I kept reiterating that babies don't need labels - theist , agnostic , atheist , deist , pantheist - because they lack the ability to believe , hold opinions etc . All these theological and philosophical propositions on God are beliefs , and since babies don't have the ability to believe (conscious explicit acceptance ) and are born with a tabula rasa then they are none of those .

They don't need labels !!!
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by JackBizzle: 5:32pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Bro , I kept reiterating that babies don't need labels - theist , agnostic , atheist , deist , pantheist - because they lack the ability to believe , hold opinions etc . All these theological and philosophical propositions on God are beliefs , and since babies don't have the ability to believe (conscious explicit acceptance ) and are born with a tabula rasa then they are none of those .

They don't need labels !!!


A tabula rasa is not a label in itself?

A slate clean free of religion? Void of beliefs in God?

At least, we atheists die the same way we came into the world- without a belief in God
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:37pm On Nov 15, 2016
JackBizzle:



A tabula rasa is not a label in itself?


Why are you being disingenuous Clean state about everything , life itself

And I like a said it has to be a conscious explicit acceptance/rejection

A slate clean free of religion? Void of beliefs in God?

Void of belief in the existence of God and non existence of God

At least, we atheists die the same way we came into the world- without a belief in God

But with the belief in the non existence of God wink
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by JackBizzle: 5:40pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:





But with the belief in the non existence of God wink


The contradiction in the bold always amuses me. It shows that you lack a certain basic piece of intelligence
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by PastorAIO: 5:40pm On Nov 15, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Agnostics say it is not possible to know if God exists or not . Are babies saying that it is not possible to know if God exists or not ?

Anyway , you know the answer . The point is , babies should not be labeled - theist , atheist , deist , agnostic whatever - because they are none of those .

Kai! This na the first Ebuka post wey I go ever 'like'. Well done.

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Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:51pm On Nov 15, 2016
PastorAIO:


Kai! This na the first Ebuka post wey I go ever 'like'. Well done.

grin grin grin That one na common sense something na but thanks anyway
Re: All Atheists, Fall In by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:52pm On Nov 15, 2016
JackBizzle:



The contradiction in the bold always amuses me. It shows that you lack a certain basic piece of intelligence

It simply means belief God does not exist .

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