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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by 40manlappy: 9:44am On Jan 28, 2017
zamirikpo:
guyz.....make sure ur bids are ready by monday.............i think the nxt auctions are on the 1st of febuary.


am looking to bid 18.50% for 364days. via skyebank

Thanks for the reminder bro. I may try to play safe with 18.2%-18.4% for 364 days wink

@feelamong, I am waiting for your tips boss.

Where is this Standard Chartered customer that feeds us with their recommendations? cheesy
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Agbaletu: 10:09am On Jan 28, 2017
I will go for 18.5% this time.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by awesomeJ(m): 2:29pm On Jan 28, 2017
olujaidi:


Those rates up there are still poorer than the true yield of 182 and 364 day tenors. Plus you get your interest upfront which you can reinvest I.e. compound. With an MMF you get your interest at the end of the quarter.

The other advantage of an MMF is that you can start with as little as 5k. What one can do is to use an MMF to build up funds to a sizeable amount then withdraw and to do TB. The returns are far better than FD and savings accounts.

Very true.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by awesomeJ(m): 2:35pm On Jan 28, 2017
abdulahi001:


maybe I should open an account with stanbic, I was at Sterling today regards D tbills but not sure of the quality of their service.
please do u mind giving me ur digits so we could chat better on whatsapp?

Funny enough, I don't do whatsapp. But we can always be in touch on this thread, plus if it's convenient for you, try to open the stanbic account. I think it'll be good for your tbills experience. I read people's comments here about them in the past, and I decided to open an account with them primarily for tbills, so far it's been good. FBN is also very good, but you may not get to specify your own rate.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 2:49pm On Jan 28, 2017
@40manlappy....yea its better safe than sorry...but if i can remember vividly, 364day rates havent dropped below 18.50% for the last 4 auctions.

and going by the body language and the big big grammar from emefiele during the last mpc meeting,they want to maintain status quo. the last rate for 364 was 18.68%....so i have dash them 0.18%.......as it is.

am sticking with 18.50%....unless their is a general consensus to bid lower. am also waiting for @feelamong to give us his expert insight.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by awesomeJ(m): 2:59pm On Jan 28, 2017
zamirikpo:
@40manlappy....yea its better safe than sorry...but if i can remember vividly, 364day rates havent dropped below 18.50% for the last 4 auctions.

and going by the body language and the big big grammar from emefiele during the last mpc meeting,they want to maintain status quo. the last rate for 364 was 18.68%....so i have dash them 0.18%.......as it is.

am sticking with 18.50%....unless their is a general consensus to bid lower. am also waiting for @feelamong to give us his expert insight.
Maybe you should be more conservative, and go for 18.28%, this makes you lose at most 0.4% going by the last stop rate, and that's a difference of only #400 on every 100Gs invested, or 4Gs on every 1 mil. If you should miss out, the loss would be much more.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by abdulahi001: 8:25pm On Jan 28, 2017
awesomeJ:


Funny enough, I don't do whatsapp. But we can always be in touch on this thread, plus if it's convenient for you, try to open the stanbic account. I think it'll be good for your tbills experience. I read people's comments here about them in the past, and I decided to open an account with them primarily for tbills, so far it's been good. FBN is also very good, but you may not get to specify your own rate.

OK, thanks bro.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DREGE: 3:05am On Jan 29, 2017
Hello house.pls would be investing 100k for the next auction (my first) for 91days with stanbic.What rate do you think is safe
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by unite4real: 7:55am On Jan 29, 2017
DREGE:
Hello house.pls would be investing 100k for the next auction (my first) for 91days with stanbic.What rate do you think is safe

You may be safe with 13.6%. Your interest will be N3,400. Happy investing
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 2:05pm On Jan 29, 2017
guyz......what rates do we bid for 364days

@40manlappy and awesomej and being conservative.........


pls more insight.....guyz
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by awesomeJ(m): 2:48pm On Jan 29, 2017
zamirikpo:
guyz......what rates do we bid for 364days

@40manlappy and awesomej and being conservative.........


pls more insight.....guyz
perhaps, the month end would mean more liquidity in the banking system, with salaries hitting bank accounts. However I can't tell what the CBN's plans are for OMO. Oga Feelamong and other gurus can inform us more about the current liquidity level in the system, as well as recent happenings in the secondary market.

But I Think 18.28 is safe and rewarding enough for 364 days. Remember in the last auction, the discount for 182 day bills fell by about 300 basis points in just one auction.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by 40manlappy: 3:03pm On Jan 29, 2017
zamirikpo:
guyz......what rates do we bid for 364days

@40manlappy and awesomej and being conservative.........


pls more insight.....guyz

With the acclaimed current liquidity in the financial system, I think it may be wise to be conservative.

https://www.nairaland.com/3598974/interbank-rate-drops-6.5-liquidity

While we await feelamong and other gurus, I might go with 18.2% for 364 days smiley
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 4:17pm On Jan 29, 2017
@40manlappy........ i also read that update on liquidity dis morning. i dey vex oh. taking 18.28%, would reduce my interest ooh, in this economy every penny is important.

anyways....with the level of liquidity its wise to be conservative.

fingers are still crossed until tomorrow morning......i will decide in the morning. i need more info.

where is uncle........... feelamong ..............

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by feelamong(m): 5:58pm On Jan 29, 2017
zamirikpo:
@40manlappy........ i also read that update on liquidity dis morning. i dey vex oh. taking 18.28%, would reduce my interest ooh, in this economy every penny is important.

anyways....with the level of liquidity its wise to be conservative.

fingers are still crossed until tomorrow morning......i will decide in the morning. i need more info.


where is uncle........... feelamong ..............

I think the most important info to look out for on monday/tuesday is if the CBN would conduct any OMO!

Once OMO is done, this fear of excess liquidity and drop in rates would be removed...

Let's also look at the secondary markets trades come monday/tuesday...it will show d direction of d markets
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by iamoasa: 7:02pm On Jan 29, 2017
feelamong:


I think the most important info to look out for on monday/tuesday is if the CBN would conduct any OMO!

Once OMO is done, this fear of excess liquidity and drop in rates would be removed...

Let's also look at the secondary markets trades come monday/tuesday...it will show d direction of d markets

Where can someone get the current rate in the secondary market pls?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by jeebz: 7:34pm On Jan 29, 2017
iamoasa:


Where can someone get the current rate in the secondary market pls?

You can contact your bank(s) to get those details since the banks are the Primary dealers and the bills in the secondary market are basically discounted bills or bills not allocated to anyone.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by 40manlappy: 7:34pm On Jan 29, 2017
iamoasa:


Where can someone get the current rate in the secondary market pls?

Talk to your bank. Request for available offers at the secondary market.

If they are not forthcoming, send a mail to their customer service unit domiciled at their Head Office.

This should be available on their official website.

@feelamong: Thank you. I think we have up till tomorrow evening to submit our bids.

Do you remember the moniker of the member that used to give us tips from Standard Chartered? wink
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by awesomeJ(m): 7:44pm On Jan 29, 2017
SuccessGee, Ummitoagirl?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by 40manlappy: 8:01pm On Jan 29, 2017
awesomeJ:
SuccessGee, Ummitoagirl?

Thanks bro, SuccessGee is the name! cheesy

@SuccessGee, we are waiting for your tip wink
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by 40manlappy: 10:07pm On Jan 29, 2017
@all

Please, when is the exact date of this next primary auction? I need the information for a form that I am filling.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Agbaletu: 10:23pm On Jan 29, 2017
40manlappy:
@all

Please, when is the exact date of this next primary auction? I need the information for a form that I am filling.
01/02/2017.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Agbaletu: 10:25pm On Jan 29, 2017
Agbaletu:
I will go for 18.5% this time.
Zenith Bank, here i come with my 18.2% tomorrow for another 364 days. It seems i am alone with 18.5%.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by 40manlappy: 10:41pm On Jan 29, 2017
Agbaletu:

01/02/2017.


Thanks.

My investment matures 02/02/2017. Thought I could participate in this PA.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ukay2: 11:29pm On Jan 29, 2017
Agbaletu:

Zenith Bank, here i come with my 18.2% tomorrow for another 364 days. It seems i am alone with 18.5%.


I think 18.6% will still be okay for 364 days......that is what am going for...highest I will re apply in 2 weeks if my bid not successful. ....but my analysis are in my rate
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DREGE: 12:01am On Jan 30, 2017
[quote author=unite4real post=53225003]
You may be safe with 13.6%. Your interest will be N3,400. Happy investing

Thank u so much.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by chukzyfcbb: 12:05am On Jan 30, 2017
I am going to play safe
91days - 13.5%
182days- 17%
I like being safe :-)
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Sylverly(m): 12:10am On Jan 30, 2017
Agbaletu:

Zenith Bank, here i come with my 18.2% tomorrow for another 364 days. It seems i am alone with 18.5%.
not at all...I'm going with 18.5
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by zamirikpo(m): 8:16am On Jan 30, 2017
nice guyz......am waiting for channels 10.am business news.....to find out if the CBN is gonna do the OMO feelamong talked about....anyone with better info, should pls feed the house.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ibkonekt(m): 9:14am On Jan 30, 2017
Best thread...following
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by feelamong(m): 10:31am On Jan 30, 2017
zamirikpo:
nice guyz......am waiting for channels 10.am business news.....to find out if the CBN is gonna do the OMO feelamong talked about....anyone with better info, should pls feed the house.

Channels wont tell you until maybe a day after..

If you want real time info on OMO..open a communication channel with an investment banker that works in Treasury
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by sunnyt1(m): 10:32am On Jan 30, 2017
im going with 19% for 365 days

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