CapitalCee:


How can an Arsenal that went out in the 2nd qualifying round of the ucl win treble?

Whats sad about that post is that it ridicules uniteds success in the FA cup, ucl and league and then tells us a team who is doing well in one of these tournaments bests the one who did well in 3. The way these pep ppl think go make u wonder say na this planet them dey type from or from another dimension

elrony:


Nah, you're just trying to create an argument in your sub.

I was on to my Uncle's opinion that Pep has dominated the PL.
Never downplaying his achievement but emphasis on "dominate" which for now is far fetched!

For all it's worth, he's no different from Ranieri & Conte of previous seasons.

Heck, I might even call this league title a fluke when City wins it and still be correct in the premise of "awaiting a repeat of another title win"

Case in point , Leicester City!

I get that part and you make a good argument.

But Dominate means; wrapped up by December. 18 straight wins. Possession. Goals.

Usain Bolts dominated Athletics even before winning multiple titles. He dominated the 2008 Olympics because of the record time and distance between him and 2nd at almost cruise control.

chic2pimp:


He has already won it abi are you willing to stake £500 only?

Yes Conte and Claudio won the league but both teams were no where as Dominant as Pep's team currently is.

I disagree. You don't have to win time and again to be Dominant. The Arsenal Invincibles for example were Dominant in that 03/04 Season.

Domination issa continuous feat, that's why "one season wonders" exist!

CapitalCee:


How can an Arsenal that went out in the 2nd qualifying round of the ucl win treble?

I said double. Read me.

Eruditor:


You are trying hard not to get the point.

Denilson the dribbler was once most expensive player ever at £21M. The coach that bought him then cannot say I spent way less than Unai Emery. Got it?

Because £21M then did what £200M did this season.

You are not still makinh sense bro.. How can you just say Denison`s transfer fee should translate to £200 million pounds now. How? how did you land on £200 mil this era

chic2pimp:


He has already won it abi are you willing to stake £500 only?

Yes Conte and Claudio won the league but both teams were no where as Dominant as Pep's team currently is.

I disagree. You don't have to win time and again to be Dominant. The Arsenal Invincibles for example were Dominant in that 03/04 Season.

Thanks for stating the obvious. Arsenal's invincible were dominant in that 03/04 season. Arsenal dominated in that year, just like Man City dominated this year, Chelsea dominated last year and Leicester too the year b4.

You can only say you dominated without being specific about the year if you won it repeatedly every other year. Or you don't agree with this?

Leyqute:


The only problem with this POV is that he has failed to replicate this "brilliance" since he left Barca. Maybe Bayern n City don't have academies. Or the clumsy players he was supposed to mould into world beaters in those teams are monkeys posing as humans.

How has He failed to replicate His brilliance or Has He not been a Dominant Force He has coached in thereafter? If the players produced at these academies are good enough, Pep has no qualms about playing them. It's like me asking why Fergie has struggled to bring through a quality player since the class of 92?

Stop reading too much into these things, No one said Pep would turn Bums into World beaters.

joeace2020:


You are not still makinh sense bro.. How can you just say Denison`s transfer fee should translate to £200 million pounds now. How? how did you land on £200 mil this era

You are doing this on purpose.

The most expensive car in 1998 will not be as expensive as the most expensive car today.

So if Fergie only needed £30M to buy that car in 2001, he would have needed £70M+ today. Period.

Eruditor:


I get that part and you make a good argument.

But Dominate means; wrapped up by December. 18 straight wins. Possession. Goals.

Usain Bolts dominated Athletics even before winning multiple titles. He dominated the 2008 Olympics because of the record time and distance between him and 2nd at almost cruise control.

Let's not try stretching this further.
At least you get the point now!

If Conte wins the league with Chelsea next season, a case can be made that he has dominated the PL.
Same for Pep and any other manager.

joeace2020:


Whats sad about that post is that it ridicules uniteds success in the FA cup, ucl and league and then tells us a team who is doing well in one of these tournaments bests the one who did well in 3. The way these pep ppl think go make u wonder say na this planet them dey type from or from another dimension

I did not ridicule United.

I am showing how you can win without being "dominant".

elrony:


LMAOOO

When I fess quote you na

Which one nau? Quote me again. Not let these ogbanje spirit enter you before you minister for church today o

elrony:


Let's not try stretching this further.
At least you get the point now!

If Conte wins the league with Chelsea next season, a case can be made that he has dominated the PL.
Same for Pep and any other manager.

Like I said, you make a good argument which I do not refute. But dominance is not only in longevity.

Style. Stats. Manner. Are other contexts.

Leyqute:


By force and faya! Else we go sack am from the ministry!!

Send am go missionary journey for the hinterlands of Gbaramutu Kingdom

Eruditor:


I said double. Read me.

Double is not treble . And considering the difference is the UCL it's no mean feat. That united team, did not lose any match from Christmas till early the next season in ALL COMPETITIONS

elrony:


Domination issa continuous feat, that's why "one season wonders" exist!

I disagree. You can be dominant over a period of time or over a one year period. The challenge for Pep now is to turn the latter to the Former.

Eruditor:


Like I said, you make a good argument which I do not refute. But dominance is not only in longevity.

Style. Stats. Manner. Are other contexts.

Cool, and as you know it the context of footie is technically "longevity".

In Doing it again and again!

joeace2020:


Whats sad about that post is that it ridicules uniteds success in the FA cup, ucl and league and then tells us a team who is doing well in one of these tournaments bests the one who did well in 3. The way these pep ppl think go make u wonder say na this planet them dey type from or from another dimension

Lol. I tot I was the only one that saw that ridiculous post. He downplayed the teams winnings and ended up mentioning a team that never played any finals.
He forgot that if not for ovrebo and that stupid ref that sent RVP off against Barca in 2011, pep would have no UCL till date

CapitalCee:


Double is not treble . And considering the difference is the UCL it's no mean feat. That united team, did not lose any match from Christmas till early the next season in ALL COMPETITIONS

They drew a whole lot of games.

And yes double is not treble but that was not a dominant display that season. That is my point. Arsenal could easily have won the league and cup.

But not this season. The league was wrapped up in December. So it is wrong to say that United team was miles ahead of this City.

chic2pimp:


I disagree. You can be dominant over a period of time or over a one year period. The challenge for Pep now is to turn the latter to the Former.

Not to totally disagree with you, buh no forget say na football we dey talk here

The main koko be say doing it again and again is domination; else Egbon Ramu woulda been right on Harry Kane as "one season wonder".

Eruditor:


You are doing this on purpose.

The most expensive car in 1998 will not be as expensive as the most expensive car today.

So if Fergie only needed £30M to buy that car in 2001, he would have needed £70M+ today. Period.

All fergie's defenders that time were not 30m it was on Rio that cost that. Pep has spurned 54m on walker, 57m on laporte, 50m on sterling and 52m on mendy. When he already have 50m Mangala and 35m Otamendi. They are not the same

CapitalCee:


Dominate? How? He has now stayed 2 seasons in EPL and competed in 8 competitions within that period and only going to win just 2 and you said he has dominated? You need to either update your app dictionary or get a new one. That micheal west dictionary you inherited from your dad is outdated bro

Bruhhhh you are only one train ride away from Oxford, you better make good use of that opportunity before it's too late.

Other words for Dominant: presiding, ruling, governing, controlling, commanding, ascendant, supreme, authoritative, most influential, most powerful, superior.

These are words you can use to describe what Pep has done to his competition in the League this season.

CapitalCee:


Lol. I tot I was the only one that saw that ridiculous post. He downplayed the teams winnings and ended up mentioning a team that never played any finals.
He forgot that if not for ovrebo and that stupid ref that sent RVP off against Barca in 2011, pep would have no UCL till date

I have discussed Ovrebo before. Let me reiterate my position on him:

To "help" Barca, Ovrebo gave them a wrong-red card to a wrong player when Barca were down 1-0 and on aggregate to an imperial Chelsea side that were home. Knowing full well that Ini would score a screamer from long range in the last second of the game.

As for RVP, Arsenal deserved to beat Barca with 1 shot on target (own goal) and 19% of the ball after denying Barca a stonewall penalty in the first half when it was 1-0 to Barca. Agg at that time was (2-2 with Barca leading on away goals when that penalty was denied).

joeace2020:


Pep lovers should stop telling us he is dominating.. By the way were where they last year? Glory hunting minions crawling out from their cess pits now trying to rewrite history as if last season didn't happen.

No Gloryhunting here just someone that knows and appreciates a Master Craftman when He sees one.

CapitalCee:


All fergie's defenders that time were not 30m it was on Rio that cost that. Pep has spurned 54m on walker, 57m on laporte, 50m on sterling and 52m on mendy. When he already have 50m Mangala and 35m Otamendi. They are not the same

Chill. He did not buy Otamendi and Sterling or Mangala.

Now if the world's most expensive defender is £75M compared to £50M average Pep spent on some defenders. It means Walker and co who are in that range would have been £20M in Fergies 2001 days. I did the maths;

50/75 × 30M = 20M

Eruditor:


They drew a whole lot of games.

And yes double is not treble but that was not a dominant display that season. That is my point. Arsenal could easily have won the league and cup.

But not this season. The league was wrapped up in December. So it is wrong to say that United team was miles ahead of this City.

Who told you they did not Dominate? You think it's easy to run EPL, FA cup and UCL and still be winning games easily? United knocked out Barca, Inter, Juve and Bayern enroute winning that champions league that's 8 pulsating games. They beat Chelsea, Arsenal and Alan Shearers Newcastle to win that FA cup. This city team despite all the hype did not beat any decent team in the champions league. Why are we even debating this ? You should be making comparison with the United team of 2013 with this team not the legendary treble winners. That Joses Chelsea of 2004-2006 will hand this city team a thrashing talk more of the treble winners.

slimghost:


Disappear where? Were you happy with our first half performance?.

I still maintain that Mourinho is a cowardly scam holding this team back. Why must we go behind before we attack with intent?.

Credit to the boys.

I no watch the match.
how do you know his instruction to the boys was not to attack from the get go?


how about ukaku ?
always wanted to ask
I remember say u been no let am rest that year.
abi you don finally ghost him matter ?
when his form lulls a bit abeg still continue to not look him side because his on a tear now and you have been stingy with your praise of the defensive forward.

make I start to read how una take Lynch ramudeter sleep no gree come.

Eruditor:


They drew a whole lot of games.

And yes double is not treble but that was not a dominant display that season. That is my point. Arsenal could easily have won the league and cup.

But not this season. The league was wrapped up in December. So it is wrong to say that United team was miles ahead of this City.

A lot of History Revisionism going on up there I have to tell you. Thank Ja for our Black and White TV sha.

Eruditor:


Chill. He did not buy Otamendi and Sterling or Mangala.

Now if the world's most expensive defender is £75M compared to £50M average Pep spent on some defenders. It means Walker and co who are in that range would have been £20M in Fergies 2001 days. I did the maths;

50/75 × 30M = 20M

Sorry I mean to say stones. I did not say he bought Mangala he met him.

BTW which scientist derived that equation for you that you are throwing around? What mathematical principle are u using to arrive at that equation. Even in your flawed mathematics, Fergie did not still buy 5 defenders at 20m during his time.

CapitalCee:


Who told you they did not Dominate? You think it's easy to run EPL, FA cup and UCL and still be winning games easily? United knocked out Barca, Inter, Juve and Bayern enroute winning that champions league that's 8 pulsating games. They beat Chelsea, Arsenal and Alan Shearers Newcastle to win that FA cup. This city team despite all the hype did not beat any decent team in the champions league. Why are we even debating this ? You should be making comparison with the United team of 2013 with this team not the legendary treble winners. That Joses Chelsea of 2004-2006 will hand this city team a thrashing talk more of the treble winners.

Conjecture.

You can knock teams out without dominating them. ATM knocked PSV out 2 or 3 seasons back on penalties after home and away 0-0.

They eked a win against Arsenal in the FA Cup.

This City team are in the quarters. They beat who was in front of them.

Jose's Chelsea scored 74 goals in EPL. Pep's team has 90.
Mou's team had 95pts. Pep's has 84 with 6 games to go.

That United team is only remembered for the treble. Without it they were average winners like Fergie's first title with 65points or so.

elrony:


Not to totally disagree with you, buh no forget say na football we dey talk here

The main koko be say doing it again and again is domination; else Egbon Ramu woulda been right on Harry Kane as "one season wonder".

Egbon Ramu get hin cross to carry, me sef get mine. When Hin wake, make you ask am about Harry "One Season" Kane

CapitalCee:


Sorry I mean to say stones. I did not say he bought Mangala he met him.

BTW which scientist derived that equation for you that you are throwing around? What mathematical principle are u using to arrive at that equation. Even in your flawed mathematics, Fergie did not still buy 5 defenders at 20m during his time.

I only did simple rationing. If I wanted to be exacting I would say Walker and co would have been 10-15M because that was the price of other good defenders under Rio.

As for the maths, if VVD is 75M. And Rio was 30M then a 50M player should have been 50/75 ×30 in Rio's day.