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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:19am On Apr 08, 2018
Cruxifizio:




Mind you this was the first post you reacted to below....

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You have failed to come up with a direct answer for the bolded rather you have been caught picking random names and attaching fictitious market figures to support your claim without any mathematical proof to back your claims up.

If i ask you how much a 57mil or 60mil pounds ibrahimovic who Pep bought in 2008 will cost in todays market......what will be your response?

Dani alves in 2008 for 32mil will cost how much today?

How much will a 40mil David villa cost in todays market?

How much will an injury free 29year old Henry's 16.1mil pounds,arsenal legend cost your darling club in todays market?


I will like to see the figures you will attach to these names in todays market....

God bless u. The dude keep throwing ridiculous figures up and down. If in 2013 fergie bought RVP for 24m and by his fictitious mathematical model it's the world record st that time, then David villa in 2010 for 40m wil be around 150m, will Zlatan in 2009 will be 200m, Dani Alves will be 80m, chygrinskiy will 70m, by the time we are done, cheque fraudiola will be spending the 5b pounds equivalent.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 8:20am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:


So where did anyone categorically say "this is definitely what Player A will go for"?

If these clubs don't use your CIES why are you brandishing it like war booty?

Again letting it fly by your head.. Mathematical estimates that ill pick any day over conjectures. If someone says the earth is flat because he thinks so, would you believe the person or ask him to prove it. Prove to me how Zidane who played in Midfield will cost £197 mil, a figure Neymar a forward cost today. A figure you have once again stood for and are sure of.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 8:23am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:


Face palm.

You have reduced the talk to absurdities. Zidane and Neymar comparison only came up as overall worlds most expensive players.


Okay you saying every most expensive player before and after Zidane should cost what Neymar cost today. Neymars figure is the standard for all most expensive players from the past. Lawd it gets absurd every minute.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:24am On Apr 08, 2018
CapitalCee:


God bless u. The dude keep throwing ridiculous figures up and down. If in 2013 fergie bought RVP for 24m and by his fictitious mathematical model it's the world record st that time, then David villa in 2010 for 40m wil be around 150m, will Zlatan in 2009 will be 200m, Dani Alves will be 80m, chygrinskiy will 70m, by the time we are done, cheque fraudiola will be spending the 5b pounds equivalent.

This reasoning will keep you doing PhD for 10 years like GEJ.

RVP 31 goal striker is one 1 year left. Fergie forks out £24M for him. In 2017, Alexis is in the same boat and Arsenal say bring 70M. Nobody pays. 6 months left, United offer a 35M signing for Alexis. So indirectly they paid 35M for a player with 6 months left.

If I say RVP in 2012 (1 year left) at 24M would have cost Fergie 70M 2017 it is logically consistent.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 8:25am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:


I am just using raw figures and my estimation of Lukaku at £100M is his value if you consider Rooney was included in that (£90M) deal. That is by the way.

Hahaha.. Gosh! My belle wan burst.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:27am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:


Nobody called it a record signing. But any person who says Fergie spent 7M on Vidic yet Mou spent 30M on unknown Lidellof and does not bring in the market era is waffling.

And liecester spent 8m on Harry Maguire and Liverpool spent 8m on Andy Robertson.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:28am On Apr 08, 2018
joeace2020:


Okay you saying every most expensive player before and after Zidane should cost what Neymar cost today. Neymars figure is the standard for all most expensive players from the past. Lawd it gets absurd every minute.

I am saying, if Del Bosque says I spent less than Unai Emery as a manager, Unai will say to him "Zidane that you paid £56M for in 2001 would have cost you what we paid for Neymar in 2017".

If your reasoning is faulty you do realize it has nothing to do with me?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:29am On Apr 08, 2018
CapitalCee:


And liecester spent 8m on Harry Maguire and Liverpool spent 8m on Andy Robertson.

And they are world class defenders in the guise of Rio and Vidic.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:30am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:


This reasoning will keep you doing PhD for 10 years like GEJ.

RVP 31 goal striker is one 1 year left. Fergie forks out £24M for him. In 2017, Alexis is in the same boat and Arsenal say bring 70M. Nobody pays. 6 months left, United offer a 35M signing for Alexis. So indirectly they paid 35M for a player with 6 months left.

If I say RVP in 2012 (1 year left) at 24M would have cost Fergie 70M 2017 it is logically consistent.
how did man u pay 35m on Sanchez? And for ur info, it's only a chequebookiola that will fork out 70m for Sanchez. No other manager will do that
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:30am On Apr 08, 2018
joeace2020:


Hahaha.. Gosh! My belle wan burst.

United did not value Rooney at £10M?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:31am On Apr 08, 2018
CapitalCee:
how did man u pay 35m on Sanchez? And for ur info, it's only a chequebookiola that will fork out 70m for Sanchez. No other manager will do that

Don't worry about what he will pay. He did not.

How much was Mhiki?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:31am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:


And they are world class defenders in the guise of Rio and Vidic.

Oga Vidic was not world class when he joined. You can't be world class at Red star Belgrade and spartak Moscow. Who did this to you?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:32am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:


Don't worry about what he will pay. He did not.

How much was Mhiki?

Mkhi was gotten from Dortmund for 26m.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:33am On Apr 08, 2018
In Ferguson's 1st EPL season (92/93) his net spend was 1.4m pounds which was 6TH in the league, behind Blackburn Rovers, Sheffield Wednesday, Aston Villa, Oldham Athletic, Leeds United.
In Pep's 1st EPL season his net spend was abut 180m pounds which was 1ST in the league.

In Ferguson's 2nd EPL season his net spend was 7.53m pounds which was 3RD behind Blackburn Rovers and Man City.
In Pep's 2nd EPL season his net spend was 223m pounds which was again 1ST in the league.

So to clarify for those without A1 in Further Maths, Pep has led the league in net spend in his first 2 seasons in the EPL while Fergie was 6th and 3rd in his first 2 seasons.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:34am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:


United did not value Rooney at £10M?

You must be the Personal Assistant to Woodward. Who valued him? From where? From your room Abi? You have turned from mathematician to a valuer abi
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:35am On Apr 08, 2018
CapitalCee:


Oga Vidic was not world class when he joined. You can't be world class at Red star Belgrade and spartak Moscow. Who did this to you?

Another absurdity.

Is Lindeloff world class? Eric Baily? Well they cost more than Vidic too.

If you refuse to see that the market then let hot prospects leave at £7M when similar prospects are valued 4.5times higher in todays market. Abi how much was Baily?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:35am On Apr 08, 2018
CapitalCee:


You must be the Personal Assistant to Woodward. Who valued him? From where? From your room Abi? You have turned from mathematician to a valuer abi

I thought it was an open secret. You have my permission to check online.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 8:37am On Apr 08, 2018
Since we can't derive an almighty formula to adjust money value over different eras and we can't agree on CIES findings, the next best thing is to compare the advantages this financial might and purchasing power gave each person compared to his contemporaries.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by slimghost(m): 8:37am On Apr 08, 2018
SIRcumalot:

I no watch the match.
how do you know his instruction to the boys was not to attack from the get go?


how about ukaku ?
always wanted to ask
I remember say u been no let am rest that year.
abi you don finally ghost him matter ?
when his form lulls a bit abeg still continue to not look him side because his on a tear now and you have been stingy with your praise of the defensive forward.


You didn't watch the match but still want to analyse it? Just shift guy.
As for Lukaku, I have praised his him countless times on this thread and I really do not owe you any freaking explanation on my views in here.
Go and watch the first half of the match, then come back and continue with the analysis.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:37am On Apr 08, 2018
afrodoc2:

In Ferguson's 1st EPL season (92/93) his net spend was 1.4m pounds which was 6TH in the league, behind Blackburn Rovers, Sheffield Wednesday, Aston Villa, Oldham Athletic, Leeds United.
In Pep's 1st EPL season his net spend was abut 180m pounds which was 1ST in the league.

In Ferguson's 2nd EPL season his net spend was 7.53m pounds which was 3RD behind Blackburn Rovers and Man City.
In Pep's 2nd EPL season his net spend was 223m pounds which was again 1ST in the league.

So to clarify for those without A1 in Further Maths, Pep has led the league in net spend in his first 2 seasons in the EPL while Fergie was 6th and 3rd in his first 2 seasons.

Cheeky. Your clever infusion of net spend.

Well it was not net spend that Fergie had £500m. And £500M for Pep in 2 seasons for City is not net spend either.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:39am On Apr 08, 2018
afrodoc2:
Since we can't derive an almighty formula to adjust money value over different eras and we can't agree on CIES findings, the next best thing is to compare the advantages this financial might and purchasing power gave each person compared to his contemporaries.

That is where Fergie was king at least till Roman came. Of course Blackburn had a run in 1995 but that was about it. United were by far the richest club in most of Fergies era.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Cruxifizio: 8:40am On Apr 08, 2018
afrodoc2:

In Ferguson's 1st EPL season (92/93) his net spend was 1.4m pounds which was 6TH in the league, behind Blackburn Rovers, Sheffield Wednesday, Aston Villa, Oldham Athletic, Leeds United.
In Pep's 1st EPL season his net spend was abut 180m pounds which was 1ST in the league.

In Ferguson's 2nd EPL season his net spend was 7.53m pounds which was 3RD behind Blackburn Rovers and Man City.
In Pep's 2nd EPL season his net spend was 223m pounds which was again 1ST in the league.

So to clarify for those without A1 in Further Maths, Pep has led the league in net spend in his first 2 seasons in the EPL while Fergie was 6th and 3rd in his first 2 seasons.


You actually need to go back to fraudiolas first 2 or 3seasons with barca and check his net spend (even with the best legs in the world) to see how fraudulent he is....

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:42am On Apr 08, 2018
afrodoc2:

In Ferguson's 1st EPL season (92/93) his net spend was 1.4m pounds which was 6TH in the league, behind Blackburn Rovers, Sheffield Wednesday, Aston Villa, Oldham Athletic, Leeds United.
In Pep's 1st EPL season his net spend was abut 180m pounds which was 1ST in the league.

In Ferguson's 2nd EPL season his net spend was 7.53m pounds which was 3RD behind Blackburn Rovers and Man City.
In Pep's 2nd EPL season his net spend was 223m pounds which was again 1ST in the league.

So to clarify for those without A1 in Further Maths, Pep has led the league in net spend in his first 2 seasons in the EPL while Fergie was 6th and 3rd in his first 2 seasons.


Laporte- 57m, Walker 52m, Danilo 27m, Mendy 52m, Ederson 35m, BernardoSilva 46m. I think you need to recalculate. Probably you didn't add Laporte his January panic buy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 8:44am On Apr 08, 2018
CapitalCee:


You must be the Personal Assistant to Woodward. Who valued him? From where? From your room Abi? You have turned from mathematician to a valuer abi

Argue with him at the risk of your mental faculties

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 8:45am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:


That is where Fergie was king at least till Roman came. Of course Blackburn had a run in 1995 but that was about it. United were by far the richest club in most of Fergies era.

Again, stupidity strikes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by HeyCorleone(m): 8:45am On Apr 08, 2018
LoRdCaT:
As in, this Man utd team cast jare. angry
I for just lose 10k
Happy Birthday LoRdCaT. More life bruh.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:46am On Apr 08, 2018
Eruditor:


Another absurdity.

Is Lindeloff world class? Eric Baily? Well they cost more than Vidic too.

If you refuse to see that the market then let hot prospects leave at £7M when similar prospects are valued 4.5times higher in todays market. Abi how much was Baily?

You must be very disinginous. I said Maguire and Robertson. For all we know, Vidic was a steal at 7m pounds. If Rio can cost 30m in 2001 Vidic for 7m in 2007 was a coup by all standard, why are you trying to be dishonest. Vidic was not known at all. It was reminiscent of the 6m Kante deal from cean of France. Stop being dishonest this man

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:47am On Apr 08, 2018
joeace2020:


Again, stupidity strikes.

Don't worry. It is you the patent office has for your special brand of stupidity.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Adisaowalla: 8:48am On Apr 08, 2018
The sort of rubbish some of these "up Barca fans" type all in a bid to defend fraudiola sha

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:50am On Apr 08, 2018
CapitalCee:


You must be very disinginous. I said Maguire and Robertson. For all we know, Vidic was a steal at 7m pounds. If Rio can cost 30m in 2001 Vidic for 7m in 2007 was a coup by all standard, why are you trying to be dishonest. Vidic was not known at all. It was reminiscent of the 6m Kante deal from cean of France. Stop being dishonest this man

Why not say Kante to Chelsea at £30M was a steal? Was it not? Should he not be more expensive than Vidic and Baka?

Rio is english so his valuation was hype. £7M in 2006 from wherever he came from was big money then. Today, even as an unknown prospect, he would have cost 30M. Just like Lindeloff.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by CapitalCee(m): 8:51am On Apr 08, 2018
Cruxifizio:



You actually need to go back to fraudiolas first 2 or 3seasons with barca and check his net spend (even with the best legs in the world) to see how fraudulent he is....

For someone that bought one Chygrinskiy for 25m in 2009 and gave out Etoo plus 45m pound added with the almighty Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Puyol and Busquets which he inherited. People like us already know him right from time for a fraud he is.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Eruditor: 8:51am On Apr 08, 2018
CapitalCee:



Laporte- 57m, Walker 52m, Danilo 27m, Mendy 52m, Ederson 35m, BernardoSilva 46m. I think you need to recalculate. Probably you didn't add Laporte his January panic buy

He said NET spend. Should I be helping you out?

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