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Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Azibalua(f): 2:54pm On Jul 03, 2020
ThinkFreely:
Even primitive animals will damn all consequences for just “Food” and their means of livelihood.
It’s no brainer why nature made it that way.

I’m shocked these church people don’t get it.

We get it..

So let us damm the consequences and go to church jooor..

Please we are not complaining..

If i can die in the market, its thus far better to do so in church ...simple
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by ThinkFreely: 2:58pm On Jul 03, 2020
Azibalua:


We get it..

So let us damm the consequences and go to church jooor..

Please we are not complaining..

If i can die in the market, its thus far better to do so in church ...simple

Seems you just came here to argue.

A sane government knows that church buildings really do not have any benefit aside where people worship. The only way church buildings can be opened in a pandemic of a communicable disease is if they are made isolation Centers.

People cannot do without food and money but people can do without church buildings.

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Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Azibalua(f): 3:00pm On Jul 03, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:


Church buildings have been closed. The church has never been closed.

Point is places of worship should open up so that the church can congregate to fellowship, to worship, to praise God..

Hebrews 10:25

Good News Translation
Let us not give up the habit of meeting together, as some are doing. Instead, let us encourage one another all the more, since you see that the Day of the Lord is coming nearer.


Its important that the church congregates together..
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by zionmde: 3:16pm On Jul 03, 2020
Petrall:


Where is that in your bible . Is leprosy not contagious jesus touched lepers. He's hearing you.



I'm not blind. The church is an assembly.

Hebrews 10:25
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.




How obedient was the early church when they were told not to preach in his name. If you were alive that time I'm sure you will join them to stone Paul justifying your action as obedience to government.

John 16:2
They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.




What does it say?

oya na since u cant effectively evangelize without a large gathering in the church and the government told u not to preach the gospel and God will support that in the midst of this troublesome spread of virus that u should defy the government health regulations. Go and open up ur church
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by OtemAtum: 3:33pm On Jul 03, 2020
Azibalua:


Death is not only physical.. it starts frim the spirit...
Spirits don't die, we exist forever. I'm talking about physical death, okay. You are in a physical world, so focus more on your physicality. Church is not even offering any meaningful spiritual value, because even Jehovah the god of the church is currently in a spiritual cage.
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Azibalua(f): 3:58pm On Jul 03, 2020
OtemAtum:
Spirits don't die, we exist forever. I'm talking about physical death, okay. You are in a physical world, so focus more on your physicality. Church is not even offering any meaningful spiritual value, because even Jehovah the god of the church is currently in a spiritual cage.

Mtchew..
Please we are discussing a serious matter here..
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Azibalua(f): 4:00pm On Jul 03, 2020
zionmde:

oya na since u cant effectively evangelize without a large gathering in the church and the government told u not to preach the gospel and God will support that in the midst of this troublesome spread of virus that u should defy the government health regulations. Go and open up ur church

Its beyound evangelisation.. The church gathering affords people to hear the word, fellowship together in the name of Jesus


Jesus went to the synagogue..
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Azibalua(f): 4:08pm On Jul 03, 2020
ThinkFreely:
Seems you just came here to argue.

A sane government knows that church buildings really do not have any benefit aside where people worship. The only way church buildings can be opened in a pandemic of a communicable disease is if they are made isolation Centers.

People cannot do without food and money but people can do without church buildings.



The biggest benefit you have just piinted out.. *where people worship GOD*

Thats the biggest benefit
Even the workd health organksation knows the importance of prayers

Read their Ogas recent statement..
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by ThinkFreely: 4:11pm On Jul 03, 2020
Azibalua:



The biggest benefit you have just piinted out.. *where people worship GOD*

Thats the biggest benefit
Even the workd health organksation knows the importance of prayers

Read their Ogas recent statement..
Worship from your house, God is everywhere.
Thanks
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by GospelAkede: 4:16pm On Jul 03, 2020
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Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by WakeNbaked: 4:41pm On Jul 03, 2020
Azibalua:


Obviously you are not thinking...
Dint think from your belly
Think from your head

You went to school to be able to use your mind.. so use it..

Where is the fastest place to contact a transmissible infection... "A place crowded or A place with fewer persons"
A place where people stay in one space for long.

I go think with my belly, I have been alive because of food for more than 20 years, and during the cause of that period I have equally being alive for 10 years without going to church.

Common sense suppose tell you which of them is really important to someone using his head.
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Kobojunkie: 4:44pm On Jul 03, 2020
Petrall:


Matthew 4:4
. . .Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. . .
God's word is freely available in the Bibles which can be purchased in the markets for those who really care to obtain a copy fo their own souls good.

Your church buildings are merely social businesses with God's name appended. These businesses are registered to the government and so required to obey government authority, along with every other business entity out there.
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by OtemAtum: 5:26pm On Jul 03, 2020
Azibalua:


Mtchew..
Please we are discussing a serious matter here..
And do I sound like I am joking? cool Have you not read of Jehovah's imprisonment by the gods of science? Read the book of Otem Erectus 226 and be informed.

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Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by zionmde: 6:30pm On Jul 03, 2020
Azibalua:


Its beyound evangelisation.. The church gathering affords people to hear the word, fellowship together in the name of Jesus


Jesus went to the synagogue..
I will never under score the importance of gathering. Nothing can replace d gathering of d saints

but it's gross ignorance making d lockdown all about d government fighting d church. ur president is a staunch Muslim, and Muslims take going to mosque far more serious dan Christians take going to church. so for him to allow the lockdown of d mosques it must be serious
USA dat announced dat churches should reopen, how are they faring now? are they not contemplating another total lockdown?
wisdom is the principal thing
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Kobojunkie: 6:53pm On Jul 03, 2020
Azibalua:
Good talk, but may not be so smart
If the market place will lead to more people contacting the virus, then get the food to the houses or do we want the people that will purchase the food to all get sick...

Who then will buy the food moreso what happens when the seller falls sick

The reason the markets are overcrowded yet again is the people making the choice to flout social distancing laws that are in place. There ignorance is not then sufficient reason to demand government remove all restrictions in place.

Remember something else, Nigerias healthcare system is still one where the patient is responsible for 100% of cost of care. So should any of those person's in the markets fall victim to Covid-19, that victim bears the cost.

That said, government can at least work on that which it controls and that is the businesses which it licenses in its attempts at continuing to manage or control the situation.
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by obonujoker(m): 8:37pm On Jul 03, 2020
OtemAtum:
Spirits don't die, we exist forever. I'm talking about physical death, okay. You are in a physical world, so focus more on your physicality. Church is not even offering any meaningful spiritual value, because even Jehovah the god of the church is currently in a spiritual cage.

You don mad but you no know .... Clown
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Nobody: 4:24am On Jul 04, 2020
Azibalua:


Point is places of worship should open up so that the church can congregate to fellowship, to worship, to praise God..

Hebrews 10:25

Good News Translation
Let us not give up the habit of meeting together, as some are doing. Instead, let us encourage one another all the more, since you see that the Day of the Lord is coming nearer.


Its important that the church congregates together..


And the meeting together can only happen in a church building?
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by OtemAtum: 6:17am On Jul 04, 2020
obonujoker:


Give your life to the Lord Jesus Christ and be ye saved...
How can a real god, Otem give his life to a fictitious character Jesus? undecided

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Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Nobody: 2:50pm On Jul 04, 2020
ThinkFreely:
Because markets create economic values while churches really do not create any value.
Dont expose your ignorance sir.
What about religious tourism, Lagos state is profiting for years bcoz of TB Joshua church, it is not economic value?
Covenant university, a church arm, doesnt add any value to Nigeria economy?
All the big events organized by churches in stadium, arena etc...they are not adding value? or do u think the gospel is only for heaven with no impact here on earth?
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by ThinkFreely: 3:08pm On Jul 04, 2020
buddenlove:

Dont expose your ignorance sir.
What about religious tourism, Lagos state is profiting for years bcoz of TB Joshua church, it is not economic value?
Covenant university, a church arm, doesnt add any value to Nigeria economy?
All the big events organized by churches in stadium, arena etc...they are not adding value? or do u think the gospel is only for heaven with no impact here on earth?
Is Tourism the matter now abi we just want to survive? grin

Every country is damning tourism now, who will come when international airlines aren’t even working grin. Who don’t want churches open now, all your tourism can continue after the pandemic is contained.
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Azibalua(f): 9:50pm On Jul 04, 2020
HedwigesMaduro:


And the meeting together can only happen in a church building?

YES..
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Azibalua(f): 9:52pm On Jul 04, 2020
zionmde:

I will never under score the importance of gathering. Nothing can replace d gathering of d saints

but it's gross ignorance making d lockdown all about d government fighting d church. ur president is a staunch Muslim, and Muslims take going to mosque far more serious dan Christians take going to church. so for him to allow the lockdown of d mosques it must be serious
USA dat announced dat churches should reopen, how are they faring now? are they not contemplating another total lockdown?
wisdom is the principal thing


The are faring very well for your information.. if the models had been correct there would have been millions of deaths


Theres no sane reason why the church should be closed and markets open..at least think small...
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Azibalua(f): 9:53pm On Jul 04, 2020
Kobojunkie:
God's word is freely available in the Bibles which can be purchased in the markets for those who really care to obtain a copy fo their own souls good.

Your church buildings are merely social businesses with God's name appended. These businesses are registered to the government and so required to obey government authority, along with every other business entity out there.


They are only registered because the laws of the land requires it.. but the church belongs to God..
Its his church.. not your own
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Kobojunkie: 9:55pm On Jul 04, 2020
Azibalua:

They are only registered because the laws of the land requires it.. but the church belongs to God..
Its his church.. not your own
Every business is required registered by law so they do belong to government not God
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by zionmde: 1:56am On Jul 05, 2020
Azibalua:



The are faring very well for your information.. if the models had been correct there would have been millions of deaths


Theres no sane reason why the church should be closed and markets open..at least think small...
if the models has been correct indeed who modelled it? or are u listening to the pastor telling u dat if not for his prayers millions will be dropping dead in africa. my dear daily new cases in USA are almost doubling up.
Dont forget wen u open church, u open mosque, for thoose people dat worship movies, u open cinemas and other social activities.

I wonder why u guys wont channel ur prayers to asking God to wipe away this evil virus.

Lest i forget, most of ur pastors call it plandemic, so i wonder wat the will be telling their members
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Petrall: 3:21am On Jul 05, 2020
zionmde:

oya na since u cant effectively evangelize without a large gathering in the church

It’s not about evangelism . It’s about Gathering to worship God .

A church is a Physical gathering

Matthew 18:20
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

1 Corinthians 5:4
4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Petrall: 3:26am On Jul 05, 2020
zionmde:
I wonder why u guys wont channel ur prayers to asking God to wipe away this evil virus.

Lest i forget, most of ur pastors call it plandemic, so i wonder wat the will be telling their members

I wonder what you will tell Jesus . If you were around in the days of Goliath I wonder what you would have counseled David . “ BE WISE DAVID, WE ALL READ THE BIBLE” HIDE LIKE EVERYONE” WE KNOW GOD SAID HE WILL GIVE US THE LAND “ LET PANDEMIC GOLIATH GO FIRST”.
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by zionmde: 6:49am On Jul 05, 2020
Petrall:


I wonder what you will tell Jesus . If you were around in the days of Goliath I wonder what you would have counseled David . “ BE WISE DAVID, WE ALL READ THE BIBLE” HIDE LIKE EVERYONE” WE KNOW GOD SAID HE WILL GIVE US THE LAND “ LET PANDEMIC GOLIATH GO FIRST”.
so wat have u done with the hundreds of thousands dat have lost their lives or is dat Goliath not worth facing. people are dying everyday, loosing their jobs every hour, untold suffering everywhere, so wat will u tell Jesus dat u have done about dAt
Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by zionmde: 6:51am On Jul 05, 2020
Petrall:


It’s not about evangelism . It’s about Gathering to worship God .

A church is a Physical gathering

Matthew 18:20
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

1 Corinthians 5:4
4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Yeah physical gathering, and who stopped u from assembling ur family members or neighbors (up to 3-4) to worship God. or wont God be in ur midst?. People are here worshipping in homes in small groups and u are here complaining. or havent u read that most fellowships in the days of Paul were held in people's homes?

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Re: Why Are Churches Still Closed Or Partially Open And Markets Open by Nobody: 3:16pm On Jul 05, 2020
Azibalua:


YES..

No wonder there was no Christianity all through the days of persecution by the Roman Empire.

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