http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl, roats-cut.html

Fort Hood gunman had told US military colleagues that infidels should have their throats cut
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the gunman who killed 13 at America's Fort Hood military base, once gave a lecture to other doctors in which he said non-believers should be beheaded and have boiling oil poured down their throats.

He also told colleagues at America's top military hospital that non-Muslims were infidels condemned to hell who should be set on fire. The outburst came during an hour-long talk Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, gave on the Koran in front of dozens of other doctors at Walter Reed Army Medical Centre in Washington DC, where he worked for six years before arriving at Fort Hood in July.
Colleagues had expected a discussion on a medical issue but were instead given an extremist interpretation of the Koran, which Hasan appeared to believe.

It was the latest in a series of "red flags" about his state of mind that have emerged since the massacre at Fort Hood, America's largest military installation, on Thursday.
Hasan, armed with two handguns including a semi-automatic pistol, walked into a processing centre for soldiers deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan, where he killed 13 and injured more than 30.
Fellow doctors have recounted how they were repeatedly harangued by Hasan about religion and that he openly claimed to be a "Muslim first and American second."
One Army doctor who knew him said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim soldier had stopped fellow officers from filing formal complaints.
Another, Dr Val Finnell, who took a course with him in 2007 at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Maryland, did complain about Hasan's "anti-American rants." He said: "The system is not doing what it's supposed to do. He at least should have been confronted about these beliefs, told to cease and desist, and to shape up or ship out. I really questioned his loyalty."
Selena Coppa, an activist for Iraq Veterans Against the War, said: "This man was a psychiatrist and was working with other psychiatrists every day and they failed to notice how deeply disturbed someone right in their midst was."
One of Hasan's neighbours described how on the day of the massacre, about 9am, he gave her a Koran and told her: "I'm going to do good work for God" before leaving for the base.
A civilian police officer who shot him, bringing the rampage to an end, said Hasan appeared "calm" during the massacre, hiding behind a telephone pole and shooting fellow soldiers in the back as they tried to get away.
"He was firing at people as they were trying to run and hide, said Sgt Mark Todd. "Then he turned and fired a couple of rounds at me. I didn't hear him say a word, he just turned and fired."
Hasan flinched after he was shot and slid down against the pole still clutching his gun, which had a laser sight on it. The officer kicked away the weapon and handcuffed him.
He said: "The guy was breathing, his eyes were blinking. I could tell that he was fading out and he didn't say anything. He was just kind of blinking."
Senator Joe Lieberman, who chairs the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security, said there had been "strong warning signs" that Hasan was an "Islamist extremist".
The committee would ask "whether the Army missed warning signs that should have led them to essentially discharge him, he said. He added: "The US
Army has to have zero tolerance. He should have been gone."
But General George Casey, the Army's Chief of Staff, said it was "speculation" that military authorities failed to pick up on warning signs. "I don't want to say that we missed it," he said.
Asked if military authorities had missed warning signs Gen Casey, the Army's Chief of Staff, added: "We have to go back and look at ourselves ,and ask ourselves the hard questions. Are we doing the right things? We will learn from this.
"It's too early to draw conclusions but we will ask ourselves the hard questions about what we are doing and the changes we should make as a result of this."

a little off topic

We know muslims shout allahu akbhar for prayers
They shout it while killing their "enemies"
while decapitating infidels
while blowing up buildings and vehicles

I also hear they shout it during ikwokirikwo, now that is deep, can someone verify that claim for me please.
and at what point do they say it?

naliakar:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/11/9/15836/1105

American Family Association Calls for Purging of Military Muslims
by Red Sox

American Family Association Calls for Purging of Military Muslims
Mon Nov 09, 2009 at 12:21:12 PM PST

Well, this wasn't totally predictable or anything. In the wake of the tragic murders at Fort Hood, the American "Family" Association has called for the purging of Muslims from the military.


A chief spokesman for the pro-life, far-right organization, American Family Association, has called for the purging of Muslim soldiers from military ranks in the wake of the tragic killings at Fort Hood.

Bryan Fischer, AFA's Director of Issues Analysis, put up a relatively unnoticed blog post last Friday arguing that U.S. command needed to "stop the practice of allowing Muslims to serve in the U.S. military."

"The reason is simple," Firscher wrote, "the more devout a Muslim is, the more of a threat he is to national security. Devout Muslims, who accept the teachings of the Prophet as divinely inspired, believe it is their duty to kill infidels. Yesterday's massacre is living proof. And yesterday's incident is not the first fragging incident involving a Muslim taking out his fellow U.S. soldiers."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/,

I myself have argued here today that in light of recent revelations about Maj. Hasan and his involvement with a once-controversial mosque in Virginia, that discussing this association is fair game, now that there's something substantive beyond just Maj. Hasan's faith. However, the AFA has now gone way over the line with a policy that is nakedly Islamophobic.

In his blog post, Mr. Fischer wrote:

Of course, most U.S. Muslims don't shoot up their fellow soldiers. Fine. As soon as Muslims give us a foolproof way to identify their jihadis from their moderates, we'll go back to allowing them to serve. You tell us who the ones are that we have to worry about, prove you're right, and Muslims can once again serve. Until that day comes, we simply cannot afford the risk. You invent a jihadi-detector that works every time it's used, and we'll welcome you back with open arms.

This is not Islamophobia, it is Islamo-realism.

This guilty-until-proven-innocent tack is not only dangerously bigoted, it's plainly anti-American. In recent years, Presidential Candidate Mike Huckabee received their endorsement, and speakers at their events have included Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Senator Jim DeMint (R-S.C.), House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.), Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.), and Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ).

It's time to demand that these political leaders publicly condemn the AFA.

This group does make a lot of sense since the highlighted part above is very true.
The more religious a Muslim gets,the more he wants to accept all the teachings of Mohammed,the more violent he gets to wards non Muslims.
[b]There are no Christians  or non Muslims serving in Saudi Army  and  that of many Islamic nations ,have you condemned that yet?[/b]2 faced hypocrites.
Have you even had the courage to denounce the killing of an Islamic convert  to Christianity in  these God forsaken Muslim countries?

Don't pay Ikomi any mind,people
He's probably looking for contracts and will soon change his name to Alhaji  Mohammed Maduekwe
like all those 419 Alhajis in Owerri central mosque

JeSoul:

lol A man after my own heart. It's too bad we have to contend with misplaced 'ethics' in order to carry out this apt and fitting suggestion of yours.

   I wonder myself. And if only more muslims here on NL would sound like you Prez, perhaps those "knee-jerk" associations might not be so justifiably popular.

 This is the problem many of us have as yeswecan voiced above: How many of them here on NL have come outright to reject in the strongest of terms this tragedy? [b]Aren't we right to assume their unified silence as is typical, is indicative of the fact that they are indifferent or even approve of these terrorist acts? [/b]

Are you guys surprised.
I've been dealing with these folks on this forum long enough to know them like the circumference of my akara ball.
If this had been about a pastor ,you would have seen abubaba and his gang of 40 thieves dancing owanbe on the thread

pres-elect:

@jesoul,

contrary to general opinion, hanging is one of the most painless means of dying. unless the hangman is inexperienced. hanging clips the spinal cord at level C3-C6 (somewhere in the neck behind the ear------->instant death.) . . firing sguad on the other hand can lead to immediate death in the executioner is experienced. a bullet in the head end it all.

i maintain my suggestion, get 'em in a closed pit with some starved and upset 200 King Cobras or Black Mambas per terrorist. the king cobra strikes and knocks its victim down, he continues to strike until the victim gets out of the way, meanwhile once struck the poison knocks down the victim, he cant get out of the way, he recieves more strikes, in about an hour he is struggling with the pain of the strikes as well as the neurotoxic venom of the snake. and more importantly it will cost the taxpayer 0$ . . . see, at the end the cobras have something to feed on and wait for the next terrorist

I think the Lion's den in Emene Zoo will be the best place.
Throw him in there naked ,let those lions have their own Eid-el -fitri

olabowale:

a married man or woman who was caught red handed by 4 witnesses in sexual intercourse with somebody he/she is not married to, when tried and found guilty, without a denial of the offense by calling the wrath of Allah on him/herself, in the fourth swearing, such a person must be stonesd to death. but in the stoning process, he or she can escape death, if a denial of the offense is proclaimed.

in war, killing is permissable.

what about in Christianity; is there a point or an event that permits killing, either as a defense against an agreessor or offensive move towards an evil doer who is determined to kill you?

That is the craziest thing in your sharia.
Do Rapists and adulteres do it in Nkwo Nnewi market that there should be 4 witnesses watching.
What a blood thirsty allah you have.

dayokanu:

Where are the people who would condemn this act. I am sure some people are delighted at this

Abuzola prayed extra prayers for Major Hasan's soul (or whatever Muslims have) to get to their paradise of virgins

Ikomi:

Now this is a total diversion, are you talking about strippers?

forget that sentence before we take the discussion on another tangent.
Haven't you heard these Muslims call women who are not dressed like ojuju Calabar naked women.
Why can't they stay in the places where the women are dressed up and kept behind locked doors.
The knuckle head in this story gladly (passing for an American) accepted American training up to free medical training but when it came to war he quickly shouted allahu akhbar and went a-shooting.
He  should have joined the Palestinian army
why didn't he?
Why join an army of a country you detest, na by force?
Muslims are not obligated by their religion to be truthful,that is what most people don't realise.
Muslims can lie if it furthers the course of Islam and America ought to know this fact.
Oaths and treaties mean nothing to them.
Their first allegiance always is Islam and if it means killing Americans so be it

In Jordan where this idiot's family  hails from can a professed Christian serve in the military.
what about Saudi and Pakistan?
Can he wear a cross like this idiot wears a heavy beard and his flowing maxi?
Only in America would they allow these folks equal opportunities yet they are not satisfied,they still want us dead while they shout their murderous  war cry allahu akhbar.
Christians in their part of the world can't even build churches and worship their God in peace.
intolerant bunch
The slowpoke gave out his tattered koran to his neighbors,can a Christian pass out Gideon's Bibles even in the streets of Zamfara state without abuzola-like folks asking for his blood?
That is what these Muslims do
They exploit these free countries for their gains and want to destroy them at all costs and drag them into the rot in their countries that they are running away from.
America is full of loose women they say yet they are trooping over here, some with forged papers to look at the loose women.
why?

MUZBO:

Most dumb punks, including the person that gave this thread its title, think that Drs are immune to medical problems. I wonder what they'd say when the Devil begins to burn in hell on judgement day!

can you stick to the topic or gerrout and see your own shrink

beans of all things
tufiakwa

JeSoul:

  Why join the army if you're against wars? if you know your conscience will not permit it, then leave. I don't recall there being any mandatory draft that robbed him of his right to not join the armed forces. But no, he decides to take the lives of 11 people, somebodys son, daughter, father, mother all because he was upset - its quite unfortunate that he survived - now he'll become a hero of sorts to aspiring terrorists everywhere.

Gbam!
was he forced into the army?
No he wasn't
The saddest thing in this whole saga is that the idiot survived 4 bullets.
Did he cook himself or what ?
They should have concentrated and pumped him with at least 72 bullets,one for each virgin

There is now evidence that the man was angry about shipping to Iraq to kill his fellow Muslims
Hmm
Jihad in the army

interesting
so the man was fighting a jihad without abuzola his armor bearer

Is this jihad related?
an Islamic terrorist attack?
we are yet to find out

Twelve people have been killed and 31 wounded in a shooting spree at a Texas military base in a murderous rampage that officials believe was carried out by an Army doctor.


Gunman kills at least 7 and wounds 12 at Fort Hood.The suspected gunman was identified by ABC News as[b] Major Nadal Malik Hasan, who is psychologist or a psychiatrist. [/b]
He was promoted to major status in May, according to the Army Times.

Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, R-Texas, told Fox News that military sources informed her that the gunman was about to be deployed to Iraq.

The shooter was killed and two other suspects, who are also soldiers, have been apprehended, Lt. Gen. Robert W. Cone said.

Hasan allegedly opened fire and killed 11 people on the base before he was shot dead, bringing the total number of fatalities to 12.

The general said there were "eyewitness accounts of more than one shooter," and the others were tracked to an adjacent facility.

Cone called the attack "a terrible tragedy, stunning." He said the community was "absolutely devastated."

President Obama called the Fort Hood shootings a "horrific outburst of violence."

"It is difficult enough to lose" soldiers overseas, but it is "horrifying that they should lose their lives at an Army base in the U.S.," he said.



The Senate and the House of Representatives held a moment of silence this evening for the victims of the Fort Hood massacre.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry ordered flags be flown at half mast until Sunday.

Cone said the motive for the attack, which took place just after 1:30 p.m. CT, is unclear.

According to sources, Hasan, who is either 39 or 40, attended the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, MD. He graduated in 2003 with a degree in Osteopathy and later finished his residency as a psychiatrist.

In 2009, Hasan completed a fellowship in Disaster and Preventive Psychiatry at the Center for Traumatic Stress.

Fort Hood, located just 60 miles north from Austin, is the largest U.S. military installation in the world, and has suffered the greatest number of casualities of all American bases in the war on Iraq.

The base is a 340 sq. mile facility located in Killeen, Texas and is home to the 1st Cavalry Division, which was one of the first groups of soldiers deployed to Iraq.

Cone said that a gunman entered a facility known as the Soldier Readiness Facility, where soldiers who are preparing to deploy go for last minute medical check ups and dental treatment. Sources told ABC News that the soldiers gathered there were getting ready to deploy to Iraq.

The gunman used two handguns, Cone said. He wasn't sure if the shooter reloaded the weapons during the attack.

"The gunman opened fire and essentially due to the quick respond of the police forces was killed," said Cone.

The shooter was killed by civilian law enforcement and one police officer died in the shootout, Cone said.

The gunman's suspected accomplices were taken into custody in an adjacent facility known as the old SportsDome Complex.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/soldiers-killed-fort-hood-shooting/story?id=9007938

Eziachi:

Is it possible to go back to the original issue of this thread? And is:
1. Is it marginalization for a government to refuse paying for privates individual holidays to Mecca or Medina?

2. Is it marginalization for a government to refuse any person or group of person a free plot of land?

The above two were reported to have been the Yoruba community in Enugu state by the host government, it seem they has been enjoying this sort of privilege until now.

Not when Tpia and her gang are around.

In making stew, plum tomatoes(oblong) are better than the vine ones(round)

If you really want to make a killer ukazi soup,put some of the sliced leaves in a blender and add to the soup.
You will forget your mother's name.

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We have passed through series of military governors and military administrators down the line to the civilian governors.

“Over these years, we have enjoyed some sort of patronage from the government, patronage in the sense that some Yorubas then were given the opportunity to be members of the Muslim Welfare Board. As a result of that they were given one or two slots to participate in Hajj Operations in Medina. From that 1990, down to when Chimaroke became governor, we still enjoyed the slots that were given to the Yoruba community in Enugu.

“There is no doubt we are facing a lot of problems in this state. We have not benefited anything from the present administration in Enugu State. We as a community we have participated in almost all the activities of the state. The last straw that broke the camel’s back was the present Hajj operation, which we recommended people to participate. But up till now, there is no single Yoruba man that belongs to the Yoruba community that was given any slot to participate in the Hajj operation

If you told me someone took their land or the indigenes refused to sell them a piece of land,I will be the first to side with them.
They should be given slots in hajj and audience with Chime,I agree with that part but free land?
absolutely not!

Adeyelu recalled that since governor Chime came on board, he had written about five letters seeking for audience with him, to let his government know the problems of the Yoruba community but unfortunately none of the letters was replied.

He also expressed disappointment that Chime does not care and had not asked leaders of non-indigenes in his state the problems their various groups are facing in the state, just as he regretted that the immediate past administration [b]cancelled the allocation of land given to the Yoruba community to build its secretariat by the former military governor of the state, Navy Captain Mike Agbaje.[/b]The secretariat, he said, would have served as a centre where the Yoruba cultural heritage would have been sold to the people, adding that all the promises of re-allocation of another land to the community made by the past administration, did not yield fruitful dividend until its tenure expired in 2007.

Boo hoo!!

A  Yoruba military governor in Enugu state ,stole land and gave to his Yoruba community ,fast forward many years after,the land perhaps reverted to the rightful owners so what is the problem?
Is there free land in Lagos and Ibadan?
what right has Agbaje to give any land to any communities in Igbo land especially.
They should be glad governor Chime is not charging them with accepting stolen property.
If they want a piece of land to build a secretariat, let them work hard, save up money and purchase a piece of land like everyone else and stop crying marginalisation.
Are there restaurants in Ikorodu serving free amala and here they are looking for free land ?
Nonsense!

blandish:

if you are frying 10 pieces of meat,

when you put salt in the meat, taste 1,
if you put maggi, taste another 1,
if you feel say the meat neva done, taste 1,
when you dey fry, taste another 1


so that buy the time you finish cooking, only one piece of meat go remain for your husband,

if your husband misbehaves, taste the last one so that he will wak without mean

Infact you need to taste his own right infront of him.Divide it in 2 and eat half to assure him you didn't poison the food

JosBoy4Lif:

dan iska! The Indians feel the same way when they see your privileged ass eating a medium-rare steak.
Suggesting that Cross Rivers should ban dog-meat because they have banned okada's in Calabar is just plain arrogant.

Dog's have no loyalty to MAN. I repeat dog's have no loyalty to MAN. If you don;t understand why I say this go and read some Pavlov
I was upset when the Chinese government banned the consumption of Dog meat during the 2008 summer olympics, what utter hypocrisy. Unfortunately this world is filled with so many of them, 0sisi!

and all dog eaters shout To nu Jah!

Aloy~Emeka:

Read a funny response to the letter above from sahara reporters:


I am suspecting the writer to be BecomeRich.

have you seen the letter fom his schoolmate


Room 101
KiriKiri Maximum Prison
Olodi Apapa
Lagos

Dear Bode

Do not be surprised that I am writing this letter to you in your fist name. The last letter I wrote to you was when you were the Chairman of the Nigerian Ports Authority, and I addressed you as Chief, Commondore, Sir, All in All Olabode George. At that time I needed your help to help'release' my goods somewhere.But now times have changed. You have lost the respect.Bode, am not surprised at your present predicament.You and Iknow you are a thief, but we both have been praying one day you will repent of your 'thiefing' ways.

You and I know your stealing did not start at the Nigerian Ports Authority (NPA). No. It has history.It started when you wereatIjebu-Ode Grammar School, 1960 -1964. You were stealing from other students, but everybody thought, by the time you were matured enough you will outgrow it. No. Youwere stealing gari, sugar, kuli kuli etc. On so many occassions you were reported toyour seniors but they couldnt do anything as youalways share the gariand kuli kuli with them.You managed your way through the Royal Naval Engineering College without any suspension or expulsion.

You were commissioned. And in your first posting, as Director of Weapons at the Naval Headquarters in 1987 you were adding a few extra naira and kobo to every contract/tender than graced your table. You were not confident at all, then. Once you put the extra naira and kobo, I remember you always go back home praying hard so you wont be detected. You were never caught. So gradually your confidence rose. And moreso, as your boss at that time approved of your 'stealing' and shared some loots with you.It was this misfortune of your confidence that we were bestowed with inOndo State in your first major military (political) assignmentin 1987.You have now grown from the small boy that was stealing kuli kuli from fellowstudents to acare-less military administartor. And boyyou stole the state blind.

And even boasting that the 'Lagos Boy' had come to teach us 'ara oke' some lessons. Not only did you steal with 'no respect', you turned 'small girls' of Ikere College of Education to tin gods by your association with them. You only needed to send government cars to Ikere and all the girls will be falling over themselves to get into the cars to journey to Akure to 'please' you. By the time they come back to the campus they were ready to slap their provost, because they have tasted of your 'wealth and power'.The obedient people of Ondo State (of whichEkiti waspart) could do nothing. Corruption was rife all over the country, so putting your hand in the state till was not at all surprising. But the scale you were doing this and with so much impunity was what enraged the people. We all kept quiet and pray that the omnipresent God will catch up with you one day, very soon.You were 'shooed' out of the Navy. And immediately you found a 'space' in the top hierachy of PDP, when Abubakar midwifed democracy third time around.

No thanks to the money you stole from our dear Ondo State that you threw around to impress the leaders of the party. All the rest is history.Bode, you got the post of chairman of NPA, not on merit, but compensation for your effort in ensuring your party's good showing in OODUA states. But God knew in His infinite Wisdom that the NPA job will be your final undoing because He knows how greedy you are. And greed leads to destruction. You did not disappoint anybody on the scale of your greed. You handpicked your collaborators and you started your stealing spree. Sold most of NPA properties and inflated contracts. And with all these you were still going about colecting 'dues' from your party governors in Ekiti, Oyo, Ogun, Ondo and Osun States. Youhave no shame, at all.You became the toast of all ladies in the Lagos and Abuja social circuits. Your 'hat' became a symbol of riches, affluence and power. But God was only distinguishing you for a big shame that He wanted to bring on you. Because in you He saw an individual who had no love of his fellowmen at heart.

A man with so much apetite for stealing.Bode, you are a disgrace to your family, wives, ex-girlfriends, and children. You are not a disgrace to your colleagues in your party or other parties. You are one out of many of them who are draining our country dry. You are one of the big guns who parade our cities, oppressing the common men, with the money they stole. There are so many like you in all the facets of the Nigerian polity, economy etc. But it is said in our adage, eniti ile mo ba ni ole (it is the one that is caught that is a thief).How many of our so called leaders can account for their wealth? How many of them have not dipped their hands in the public till? So many have abused their offices, stole billions and turned themselves to political gods. But we still celebrate them. Very soon, if they do not come before Justice Oyewole, they are all answerable to God Almighty.

Bode, I know you are very happy at the judgement of Justice Oyewole. I saw a smile on your face when he delivered the judgement. A mere 30 months and you are back at your old self. You are lucky. You remember the sentences handed over to the Ambrose Alis, Mbakwes, Barkin Zuwos etc in the 80s. Some had 100 years for stealing justa fraction of what you stole.But Bode, see beyond the number of years and ask for atonement of all your sins. Your children, wives andrelations will carry your shame all their years. You are more like Oyenusi of the old. Nobody, to my knowledge, bears that name anymore. Your children are lucky, yours is an English name. But from now henceforth, people will ask them, which of the Georges are you? The shameless thief or the other George?

I shall end this here, as I am beginning to realise you are hard to convince. In all these, you still nurture the thoughts that you were set up because you are a top notch of PDP? Ah! You are a dunce.And above all an OGBOLOGBO OLE.Ole, Wobia, Alajeju, Agba Iya.I pray God will forgive you, for what you indirectly made to happen to my goods (and other struggling Nigerians')at NPA some years back.See you after 30 months.Greet all the Ogbologbos in Kirikiri.babajide Se

toshmann:

osisi,
remember what God told peter . . ''arise, peter, kill and eat'' calabar people cant afford goat meat and cow meat as much as they can afford dogmeat
infact, the call it 404, and police dogs even better. that one na 505

anyway, they like it, it's not killing them. and if it's man's best friend, u may want to ask, which man? american,british,efik?

Toshi nwa mama biko jie brake there
there is meat and there is meat
are Calabar people eating dogs because of poverty?
I feel like throwing up as I imagine bingo in a pot

Sky Blue:

Why do you assume I eat dogs? Let me ask you a question. Do you eat meat or fish? If you do then you really have no moral justification for looking down your nose at those who eat dog. Who made dog man's best friend? When was this meeting held where it was agreed by all that dog is man's best friends? So chicken no get friend abi? People wey dey name their chicken bingo nko. Those ones no go dey vex say you dey chop bingo mama come christmas time? Abeg make I hia word. Tufiakwa yourself too, imagine the hypocricy. Unless you be vegan comot for road abeg

I say make you ride on with ya dog munching
Tufiakwa!

davidylan:

sprinkle garri inside egusi soup, thickens it.

potatoes can be used to thicken ofe onugbu when you don't have ede (cocoyam)
My aunt in London uses oatmeal