@jites: 6 coaches for a Bungalow sounds too much not to talk of a simple 1 or 2 bedrooms BQ. Where is your land located? You emphasize so much on BQ, do you have plan to build something bigger, the main house later? Or just a BQ away from home? The reason am asking is that you don't want to build where structure as simple as BQ will run you into millions. Just do you homework very well, add and subtract before taking any step. If a BQ on this land require 6 coaches, how many will the main house need? If you don't plan building something big or have a tight budget, you may want to forget the BQ and go for a nice bungalow Instead. Anyway, lets hear from you first!

we have over 1000 pcs of 6" hollow blocks to be used on this BQ, neat products.

still on the BQ foundation

the iron workers on the deck are starting to tie the mat

The only problem I have right now about the BQ is that it comes too close to the front of the main building, the effect of this is that some parts of the sit out in the main building will be obscured by the BQ/car shed. I will see what we can do about this.

prince_onx: @jites: 6 coaches for a Bungalow sounds too much not to talk of a simple 1 or 2 bedrooms BQ. Where is your land located? You emphasize so much on BQ, do you have plan to build something bigger, the main house later? Or just a BQ away from home? The reason am asking is that you don't want to build where structure as simple as BQ will run you into millions. Just do you homework very well, add and subtract before taking any step. If a BQ on this land require 6 coaches, how many will the main house need? If you don't plan building something big or have a tight budget, you may want to forget the BQ and go for a nice bungalow I stead. Anyway, lets hear from you first!

@Prince, Thanks a lot for your input thats why i love NL getting loads of help. Well the land is in Sapele in Delta state, the land is a bit swampy and the architect said to be on a safe side we need to raise the foundation. its a 2 plot land and it was acquired specifically for me to build a poultry farm, the site will contain THE POULTRY FARM, A 2 BEDROOM BUNGALOW AND A BQ, Presently i dont have the fund to complete everything and i am currently paying an enormous rent where i presently live. So my plan is to complete the BQ first move into the BQ, build the poultry as i need to be close to the farm to monitor it, and eventually build the 2 bedroom bungalow, When the bungalow is complete i would move into it with my family, the BQ will be used for my workers on the farm as an added incentive for them to live rent free, about 2 workers. When the farm is operational the proceed will help in funding the construction of the 2 bedroom Bungalow. But i am not currently at home, i live in the UK but my inlaw will be running things on my behalf- i know a lot of people will raise eyebrow when i say i am not at home and someone else will be running things, the truth is my major problem is even my inlaw dont have a clue how much the BQ will cost he gives me figure and i compare on NL and decide if he goes ahead or not. The block moulder he saw is charging 25 naira per bag, is this reasonable, i have been following spyder,brabus,amlone, and some vito guy something that build a 5bedroom bungalow in benin city for a while and as at last year they paid their moulder approximately 18-20 per bag so relatively i thought it wasnt too bad- your thoughts please.
To avoid any confusion, when I use I in my statement i am actually refering to my inlaw.
A little bit about my inlaw. He graduated the same time as my immediate younger sister from UNN about 5 years ago, they got married and both of them have been looking for jobs to no avail only getting jobs of 20k a month, so i called him and said why work for 20k or when we can both run some business together, he is very hardworking, i open a little poultry of 250 birds as a trial and so far he has managed it very well losing only 5 birds, we are currently selling eggs now to customers and they are even paying in advance, i bought 5 okada for him to manage on hire purchase and he ran it fanstastically well giving account for every penny even when he buys coke to drink due to being in the sun too long, all the bike have all balance and currently my inlaw has now bought 2 taxis supported by me as well, both drivers balancing 2k per day 10k per week. So in terms of the business being in good hand i have no doubt but the help we need now is for the building as we are both novice and dont want to be riped off. So please my good people of NL any help would be greatly appreciated.

@ SPYDER, PRINCE,ETC I asked the architect for a BOQ on the BQ and i just got a quote of 1.6 million. Spyder, prince and all property followers and enthusiast. is this a reasonable quote?

jites: @ SPYDER, PRINCE,ETC I asked the architect for a BOQ on the BQ and i just got a quote of 1.6 million. Spyder, prince and all property followers and enthusiast. is this a reasonable quote?

N1.6m sounds high for a BQ, except there are other conditions we don't know about.

Block setting ongoing on the BQ, all decking workers present and performing. Its a full house here. More pictures later in the evening.

spyder880:

N1.6m sounds high for a BQ, except there are other conditions we don't know about.

@spyder, i dont know of any other conditions, anyway he is not the one who will build it so that is just his estimate perhaps when i actually start i may not spend that much, thats why i intend to follow your every move and cost on this BQ, i know that material cost may also be different depending on where you are at. So Spyder, if you dont mind i will be hoping you would be posting the breakdown cost for the BQ.

jites:

@spyder, i dont know of any other conditions, anyway he is not the one who will build it so that is just his estimate perhaps when i actually start i may not spend that much, thats why i intend to follow your every move and cost on this BQ, i know that material cost may also be different depending on where you are at. So Spyder, if you dont mind i will be hoping you would be posting the breakdown cost for the BQ.

With 6" block at N120 (N240,000 for 2000) and cements estimated at N2000 (N150,000 for 75 bags), sand and gravel N300,000 plus labour @ N200,000, N1.6m or a little more should be able to roof a 4 bedrooms bungalow before plumbing and electoral not to talk of BQ. Am not a contractor and with all due respect to Spyder and co! And ofcox I know there are other here and there expenses which was why I said "with a little more above the N1.6m).
First of all @jites: if you land is a swamp in an area suitable for farming or poultry it will cost you way more than those of us building on a flat and dry land. Your BQ for example require 6 coaches while my story building of 4 flats was 4 and 5 in some area. Sapele is not that expensive in terms of buying land so you might want to consider looking for a different plot and just use the present one for your farming. 2. If you are on a tight budget which most of us are then I will advise you to start the building of the main house. Why will you want to build or own two houses that won't/can't contain people? One TWO bedrooms MAIN house and one "ONE bedroom BQ even though you have a family. My cousin is building something similar to what you have on mind but his is a 4 bedrooms total and 2 living rooms. On one side he has 3 bedrooms, living room, toilet/bathroom, and kitchen then across the hall is a one bedroom safe contain but they're all under one roof. He plan to use the 3bdrm side with his family then rent the safe contain at least to have a neighbor in the compound. You can even start the main house (not 2 rooms abeg lol) then finish the two rooms you need for now then the rest later. You need to plan for friends and inlaws in case they visit.
Finally, if I don't know something I seek the knowledge or ideas of those that know not those that don't know like me. Obviously both you and you brother Inlaw knows nothing about building or are both building for the first time why not look for someone that know. Bear in mind that whatever you do somebody must chop your money one way or the other! Can't beat that! So, let you bro-Inlaw handle the finance part as in give them money when needed or buy/pay for material and labour while you find someone that know about building to supervise the project. You should be able to find someone that will charge you cheap or not more than N50k. Am sure folks like Spyder will chip in more ideas! Good luck!

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I couldn't have said it better, you will make a very good contractor with you in depth knowledge of the building process

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With 6" block at N120 (N240,000 for 2000) and cements estimated at N2000 (N150,000 for 75 bags), sand and gravel N300,000 plus labour @ N200,000, N1.6m or a little more should be able to roof a 4 bedrooms bungalow before plumbing and electoral not to talk of BQ. Am not a contractor and with all due respect to Spyder and co! And ofcox I know there are other here and there expenses which was why I said "with a little more above the N1.6m).
First of all @jites: if you land is a swamp in an area suitable for farming or poultry it will cost you way more than those of us building on a flat and dry land. Your BQ for example require 6 coaches while my story building of 4 flats was 4 and 5 in some area. Sapele is not that expensive in terms of buying land so you might want to consider looking for a different plot and just use the present one for your farming. 2. If you are on a tight budget which most of us are then I will advise you to start the building of the main house. Why will you want to build or own two houses that won't/can't contain people? One TWO bedrooms MAIN house and one "ONE bedroom BQ even though you have a family. My cousin is building something similar to what you have on mind but his is a 4 bedrooms total and 2 living rooms. On one side he has 3 bedrooms, living room, toilet/bathroom, and kitchen then across the hall is a one bedroom safe contain but they're all under one roof. He plan to use the 3bdrm side with his family then rent the safe contain at least to have a neighbor in the compound. You can even start the main house (not 2 rooms abeg lol) then finish the two rooms you need for now then the rest later. You need to plan for friends and inlaws in case they visit.
Finally, if I don't know something I seek the knowledge or ideas of those that know not those that don't know like me. Obviously both you and you brother Inlaw knows nothing about building or are both building for the first time why not look for someone that know. Bear in mind that whatever you do somebody must chop your money one way or the other! Can't beat that! So, let you bro-Inlaw handle the finance part as in give them money when needed or buy/pay for material and labour while you find someone that know about building to supervise the project. You should be able to find someone that will charge you cheap or not more than N50k. Am sure folks like Spyder will chip in more ideas! Good luck![/quote]

@Prince onx, thanks a lot for taking your time to give me this advice, i am grateful. I will definately go back to the drawing board and make a few changes, i will now definately increase the 2 bedroom bungalow to 3 bedroom, i doubt if an additional bedroom will make much difference in terms of cost. In terms of someone supervising the project the architect who drew the plan said he would also monitor it from time to time but mind you he is the one who did a BOQ for 1.6million naira too. I think what i will do like you suggest my inlaw will be responsible for the finance. In terms of getting another land, uhmm for now i dont think i can afford it, i actually bought this present one for 1.2 million naira and guess what i bought it from my uncle at a cheaper rate, well supposedly and in sapele you have to be careful when buying land because a lot of people sell land that don't belong to them. This land however, was bought by the government from the community and government allocated the plots to various individuals of which my uncle benefited 2 plots from. Sapele is not really my home and i am not looking to build a house for myself in sapele to live one day, i have a land in my home town for that purpose, the land in sapele was bought mainly for business purpose ie the poultry but just to accommodate my inlaw and my sister who will also be running the farm i decided to build a little house on the farm for them to live. But on the whole thanks a lot Prince and God bless you for the advice you have given me.

@Prince onx, thanks a lot for taking your time to give me this advice, i am grateful. I will definately go back to the drawing board and make a few changes, i will now definately increase the 2 bedroom bungalow to 3 bedroom, i doubt if an additional bedroom will make much difference in terms of cost. In terms of someone supervising the project the architect who drew the plan said he would also monitor it from time to time but mind you he is the one who did a BOQ for 1.6million naira too. I think what i will do like you suggest my inlaw will be responsible for the finance. In terms of getting another land, uhmm for now i dont think i can afford it, i actually bought this present one for 1.2 million naira and guess what i bought it from my uncle at a cheaper rate, well supposedly and in sapele you have to be careful when buying land because a lot of people sell land that don't belong to them. This land however, was bought by the government from the community and government allocated the plots to various individuals of which my uncle benefited 2 plots from. Sapele is not really my home and i am not looking to build a house for myself in sapele to live one day, i have a land in my home town for that purpose, the land in sapele was bought mainly for business purpose ie the poultry but just to accommodate my inlaw and my sister who will also be running the farm i decided to build a little house on the farm for them to live. But on the whole thanks a lot Prince and God bless you for the advice you have given me.

spyder880: ^^^^

I couldn't have said it better, you will make a very good contractor with you in depth knowledge of the building process

You couldn't say it better because I said it exactly how YOU taught me lol! I've been following and reading your thread/post and lesson for over 2yrs now if am right. I don't even read any other book including my bible as much as I read your post! So, all thanks to you Spyder!
@jites: haven't even read your post/reply but glad I could be of a little help. Cheers!

and then we bought some trips of size 4 and size 3 top quality gravel

we took delivery of our second batch of decking cement.

prince_onx:
You couldn't say it better because I said it exactly how YOU taught me lol! I've been following and reading your thread/post and lesson for over 2yrs now if am right. I don't even read any other book including my bible as much as I read your post! So, all thanks to you Spyder!
@jites: haven't even read your post/reply but glad I could be of a little help. Cheers!

You are a very big encouragement for me and I thank you greatly brother.

we are working on the staircase of this house.

while we are still working on top of the deck.

changing to this.......

iron works on the cantilever

more iron works.

everybody was busy working

mass attack!

team work builds quality

even the guys on the BQ were busy

we must deliver this house as soon as practicable if transfer of funds don't delay us again

Spyder, How Much does these gravel cost per trip?

spyder880: and then we bought some trips of size 4 and size 3 top quality gravel

spyder880: even the guys on the BQ were busy

@Spyder, good morning, just looking at the initial stage of the BQ foundation, those 4 segment, are they the 2 rooms, bathroom and toilet? and in terms of the costing of the BQ, i take it you would be sharing resources with the main house also, as in say if you bring in a tipper of sand for example, you are likely to use it for both the house and the BQ. Cos i was just thinking if that is the case then it might be a bit tricky trying to estimate the cost of the BQ.

chuk007: Spyder, How Much does these gravel cost per trip?

Size 3 = N20,000 per trip
Size 4 = N19,000 per trip

jites:
@Spyder, good morning, just looking at the initial stage of the BQ foundation, those 4 segment, are they the 2 rooms, bathroom and toilet? and in terms of the costing of the BQ, i take it you would be sharing resources with the main house also, as in say if you bring in a tipper of sand for example, you are likely to use it for both the house and the BQ. Cos i was just thinking if that is the case then it might be a bit tricky trying to estimate the cost of the BQ.

We are going to divide the 3rd room to form the toilet/bath. Although the two projects are sharing most of their materials and labour, I will try and pick out the costs for the BQ differently.