licensed2k:
report the governor to d senate u say dude?
U dont seem lyk d kinda guy that has ever been to nigeria or has any form of familiarity with the political situation in nigeria and if u by any chance do u just spoke lyk a zombie or u wldnt be saying he shld report the governor to the senate. . . if u want to tackle our nation's problem: create job, infrastructures, stop corruption, gives us basic amenities and give the common man a chance to make it in life and stop bn driven by ur religion affiliation. . .wel, one thing is certain, they are callin for revolution and we will give it to then real soon, quote me, i say real soon, sooner than y'all are imagin

Am not a zombie......please brother,don't be mad @ me.......or 21st Century also asked u to be Mad @ a well tailored post of mine......

Am sorry if I hit u in a 21st century style..............it takes more than a sense of urs ,Licensed2K, to comprehend my post above!!!

U even attacked urself, If d OP can't report the Governor on failure to provide basic Amenities as u ve Higlighted above.....whatapoo about reporting Ban on Obscenity!!!!

Seems u re now the Zombie.....
(smiles).......Think,think,think that is the purpose of ur brain!!!!

Paul John:

My man, GOD bless you.
This is the post of the day

thanks bro paul!!!!

This leaves me with many questions in my mind. What happen to the dirty environment? What happens to those smoking indian hemp, what happens to beer palours during office hour, what happens to brothels that are doing full binness during office hour and many more.
This same effort could be used to solve the above menance.

dasparrow: @Post

I already responded to this topic last night on this thread but I cannot find my post. It has vanished again.

Anyways, what is wrong with Obama's hair style? The last time I checked, President Obama had a clean hair cut. Also, I don't think grown adults should be beaten up. Nigerian society is like a jungle. In any sane society, when someone breaks the law, the person is fined and not beaten up especially when it has to do with something as mundane as how people dress. By the way, are we Saudi Arabia? Why should adults be told what to wear? I believe people should dress decently but I don't think they should be beaten up if they don't.


I will be back on this thread to make sure my post did not disappear again

touche, u spoke my mind.i cldnt have said it beta. . . and btw SARS operatives are tasked to subdue hardcore criminal and not to be a menace on the society they so swore to protect. . . I think d governor ought to be charged with misallocation of valuable nationa resources. . .oh! My bad, i forgot we are in nigeria

donroxy:

Am not a zombie......please brother,don't be mad @ me.......or 21st Century also asked u to be Mad @ a well tailored post of mine......

Am sorry if I hit u in a 21st century style..............it takes more than a sense of urs ,Licensed2K, to comprehend my post above!!!

U even attacked urself, If d OP can't report the Governor on failure to provide basic Amenities as u ve Higlighted above.....whatapoo about reporting Ban on Obscenity!!!!

Seems u re now the Zombie.....
(smiles).......Think,think,think that is the purpose of ur brain!!!!

hmmm! Gat no hard feelings 2ward u cuz u ar not d enemy.
d OP probably think d governor might be forced to change his stance if this cld be gotten to d attention of the power-that-be. Wel, so i think too or y did he have to be selective on d deployement of SARS on the state, last time i checked okuku and ikire do not have this sars operatives monitoring their social lives, and do u know wot ds 2 town have in common? Okuku is hometown to oyinlola. D former governor while a very powerful pdp figures also dwells in ikire. So put all this pieces together and u might get d picture

*solid*:
This leaves me with many questions in my mind. What happen to the dirty environment? What happens to those smoking indian hemp, what happens to beer palours during office hour, what happens to brothels that are doing full binness during office hour and many more.
This same effort could be used to solve the above menance.

i think dats y d OP thinks d act has islamic undertone. . . u wanna get the bad guys? Raid all d sepe joints, brothels, hotels and bars but am sure dat was neva done.

I want to believe on face value that Gov. Aregbesola is not allowing this, but again it happened in other states before.

So, let's keep our hands crossed until we hear more from those on the ground.

Meawhile, Osun State/Gov. Aregbesola should not allow themselves to embark on a journey that can only lead to trouble. There is a serious need to recognize personal freedoms in Nigeria, not put it down further. I have heard of university students undergoing corporal punishments (such as kneeling down) in some private universities. This does not bode well for any school, state or nation.

Hurpy007: pls ppl i need to know how i can take ds matter up with d highest authority and pls moderators help us take it to the front page. the governor of osun state has recently implemented a programme of action in which anybody deemed spottin haircut lyk obama, saggin, wearing rosary e.t.c is seriously molested and beaten publicly by the SARS operatives. . . this is all happening in the 21st century my ppl. . . This is a barbaric act of d highest order and i refuse to suffer in silence.

Chei! This gut is nothing but OPONU

Hurpy007: pls ppl i need to know how i can take ds matter up with d highest authority and pls moderators help us take it to the front page. the governor of osun state has recently implemented a programme of action in which anybody deemed spottin haircut lyk obama, saggin, wearing rosary e.t.c is seriously molested and beaten publicly by the SARS operatives. . . this is all happening in the 21st century my ppl. . . This is a barbaric act of d highest order and i refuse to suffer in silence.

Sagging is illegal in some American cities

@ OP, are u a christian? If u are, is xtianity accept indecency dressing as pictured by ur post? Is sagging and obama haircut, part of xtianity? Do u have a model? Who is he or she? Does he or she sags? Does ur pastor sags? Does ur dad(wt respect)sags? Answer all these questions, inwardly and justify ur dressing as modest or immodest.
I dont know why people lyk u wl continue to incite pple against govt, because of ur anti-society dispositions wc any sane govt wl not accommodate.
U have a choice to leave osun for ogbeni, till he finish his tenure, as he is not ready to accommodate a rogue lyk u in his domain.
Christianity nor Islam gives nod to indecency, so dnt bring religion into ds. Try to live to d dictation of societal values. OSUN A DARA O.

1) First question we should ask is, is this true? We have no independent confirmation, only the OP's word (and he's not even a direct witness). No link, no article, nothing.


2) Even if it is true, is the governor aware? Remember the Lagos indecent dressing arrests of 2007? It was alleged that Fashola ordered the arrest, but in actual fact he didn't even know about it.

3) Even if the governor is aware, is the any law that makes it illegal for a citizen to dress in that manner?

We tend to do more harm than good with d way we view n say things. U knw d nation is very sensitive presently wen it comes to religion n tribal issues n d youth re very vulnerable in dis regards. Why should u bring islamization into this or wen did indecent dressing becomes part of Christianity? Cos last time I checked, no religion supports it. Obama hair style ko, osama chin beard ni. Go get a work dat will enable u dress decently rada than seeking settling for d tattered agbero.

We tend to do more harm than good with d way we view n say things. U knw d nation is very sensitive presently wen it comes to religion n tribal issues n d youth re very vulnerable in dis regards. Why should u bring islamization into this or wen did indecent dressing becomes part of Christianity? Cos last time I checked, no religion supports it. Obama hair style ko, osama chin beard ni. Go get a work dat will enable u dress decently rada than settling for d tattered agbero.

sleekdot: Security operatives all over the world profiles criminals by dressing.

If you wear some kind of cloth in US you stand a chance of being arrested.

E.g If you wear skimpy clothes on Allen, You stand a chance of being arrested as a prostitute etc.

I don't think it cost you anything to dress responsibly

The way you are dressed you would be addressed. You dressed like a thief, you would be addressed as one

you sir, are a m0r0n!

TheReligionofPeace - Islam: Muhammad's Sex LifeTheReligionofPeace.com
Guide to Understanding Islam


What does the
Religion of Peace
Teach About...
The Sex Life of the Prophet



Question:
Was Islam's "perfect man" sexually restrained?


Summary Answer:
Muhammad had sex with just about anyone he pleased, thanks to Allah's
extraordinary interest in his personal sex life, as immortalized in the
Qur'an.
Although the Qur'an didn't appear to have enough space for topics like
universal love and brotherhood (which Muslims sometimes insist are there,
but aren't), the list of sexual partners that Muhammad was entitled to is
detailed more than once, sometimes in categories and sometimes in
reference to specific persons (ie. Zaynab and Mary).
Muhammad was married to thirteen women, including eleven at one time. He
relegated them to either consecutive days or (according to some accounts)
all in one night. He married a 9-year-old girl and even his adopted son's
wife. On top of that, Muhammad had a multitude of slave girls and
concubines with whom he had sex - sometimes on the very days in which they
had watched their husbands and fathers die at the hands of his army.
So, by any realistic measure, the creator of the world's most sexually
restrictive religion was also one of the most sexually indulgent
characters in history.



The Qur'an:
Allah managed to hand down quite a few "revelations" that sanctioned
Muhammad's personal pursuit of sex to the doubters around him.
Interestingly they have become part of the the eternal, infallible word of
the Qur'an, to be memorized by generations of Muslims for whom they have
no possible relevance.
Qur'an (33:37) - "But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave
her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the
believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have
accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed."
No doubt millions of young Muslims, trying to outdo one another at
memorizing the Qur'an, have wondered about what this verse means and why
it is there. In fact, this is a "revelation" of convenience that Allah
just happened to hand down at a time when Muhammad lusted after his
daughter-in-law, Zaynab, - a state of affairs that disturbed local
customs. The verse "commands" Muhammad to marry the woman (following her
husband's gracious divorce). As for why this should be part of the
eternal word of God...?
Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives
whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand
possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war,
and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your
paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the
daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman
if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her--
specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have
ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands
possess in order that no blame may attach to you; " This is another
special command that Muhammad handed down to himself that allows virtually
unlimited sex, divinely sanctioned by Allah. One assumes that this
"revelation" was meant to assuage some sort of disgruntlement in the
community over Muhammad's hedonism.
Qur'an (33:51) - "You may put off whom you please of them, and you may
take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had
separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so
that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should
be pleased" This is in reference to a situation in which Muhammad's wives
were grumbling about his preference for sleeping with a slave girl (Mary
the Copt) instead of them. Accordingly, Muhammad may sleep with whichever
wife (or slave) he wishes without having to hear the others complain... as
revealed in Allah's literal and perfect words to more than a billion
Muslims.
Qur'an (66:1-5) - "O Prophet! Why ban thou that which Allah hath made
lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives?..." Another remarkable
verse of sexual convenience concerns an episode in which Muhammad's wives
were jealous of the attention that he was giving to a Christian slave
girl. But, as he pointed out to them, to neglect the sexual availability
of his slaves was against Allah's will for him!
Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those
(captives) whom your right hands possess." Allah even permitted Muhammad
and his men to have sex with married slaves, such as those captured in
battle.



From the Hadith:

Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was
only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places). No where in
the reliable Hadith or Sira is there any other age given.

Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but
Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This
is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their
followers into similar concessions.

Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house
(something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).

Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and
handle her.

Muslim (8:3460) - "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could
sport with her and she sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she
could amuse with you?" Muhammad posed this question to one of his
followers who had married an "older woman" instead of opting to handle a
child.

Bukhari (4:232) - Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his
clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to
the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it's a wonder he
found the time to slay pagans.

Bukhari (6:300) - Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's
handling even when they were having their menstrual period.

Bukhari (93:639) - The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'Holy Qur'an'
with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.

Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations
with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also
said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally - and it isn't hard
to guess why.

Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round,
during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas,
'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that
the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.' "

Bukhari (60:311) - "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your
wishes and desires." These words were spoken by Aisha within the context
of her husband having been given 'Allah's permission' to fulfill his
sexual desires with a large number of women in whatever order he chooses.
(It has been suggested that Aisha may have been speaking somewhat wryly).

Muslim (8:3424) - One of several narrations in which a leering Muhammad
orders a clearly startled woman to suckle a grown man with her breast so
that he will become "unlawful" to her - meaning that they can live under
the same roof together.

Tabari IX:137 - "Allah granted Rayhana of the Qurayza to Muhammad as
booty." Muhammad considered the women that he captured and enslaved to
be God's gift to him.

Tabari VIII:117 - "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the
Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving
Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the
Muslims." He sometimes pulled rank to reserve the most beautiful captured
women for himself.

Tabari IX:139 - "You are a self-respecting girl, but the prophet is a
womanizer." Words spoken by the disappointed parents of a girl who had
'offered' herself to Muhammad (he accepted).


Additional Notes:

Muhammad's sexual antics are an embarrassment to those Muslims who are
aware of them. This is particularly so for their prophet's consummation
of his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine years of age. The thought
of a 52-year-old man sleeping and bathing with a young girl is intensely
unpleasant and it reflects the disgusting character of a sexual glutton
rather than a holy man. Critics even allege that Muhammad was a
pedophile.

Some Muslims respond by denying the hadith itself, which is a mistake.
The accounts of Muhammad sleeping with a 9-year-old are no less reliable
than those on which the five pillars of Islam are based. They have been
an accepted part of tradition and did not become controversial until
social mores began to change with the modern age.

The charge of pedophilia may or may not be true, depending on how it is
defined. Technically, Muhammad did have a sexual relationship with a
child, but Aisha was also the youngest of his twelve wives. Zaynab was in
her 30's when she attracted the unquenchable lust of the prophet. We
don't know the age of Muhammad's sex slaves. They may or may not have
been as young as Aisha, but there is no point in speculating.

Prior to the medical advances of the last century, marriage occurred at a
much younger age across all societies. When life expectancy was in the
mid 20's (or lower), it made no sense to wait until 19 to start having
children. Otherwise, one ran the risk of not being around to raise them.
In short, childhood as we know it was abbreviated by the reality of the
times.

Another strong piece of evidence against Muhammad being a pedophile is
that, according to the same Hadith, he waited from the time Aisha was six
(when the marriage ceremony took place) until she turned nine to
consummate the relationship. Although the text doesn't say why, in all
probability it was because he was waiting for her to begin menstrual
cycles - thus entering into "womanhood." It is unlikely that a pedophile
would be concerned about this.

On the other hand, Muhammad passed down revelations from Allah that
clearly condoned sleeping with underage girls, even by the standard of
puberty. Qur'an (65:4) relates rules for divorce, one of them being that
a waiting period of three months is established to determine that the
woman is not pregnant. But the same rule applies to "those too who have
not had their courses," meaning girls who have not begun to menstruate.
(In our opinion, this would have been a great time for Allah to have said
something else instead like, "a real man is one who marries an actual,
grown woman"... but that's just us).

Thanks to Muhammad's extremely poor judgment (at best) and explicit
approval of pedophilia, sex with children became deeply ingrained in the
Islamic tradition. For many centuries, Muslim armies would purge
Christian and Hindu peasant villages of their menfolk and send the women
and children to harems and the thriving child sex slave markets deep in
the Islamic world.

When it comes to child marriage, contemporary clerics warn fellow Muslims
against succumbing to the disapproval of the Christian West: "It behooves
those who call for setting a minimum age for marriage to fear Allah and
not contradict his Sharia, or try to legislate things Allah did not
permit. For laws are Allah’s province; and legislation is his excusive
right, to be shared by none other. And among these are the rules governing
marriage.”

The Ayatollah Khomeini, who married a 12-year-old girl, even gave his
consent to using infants for sexual pleasure (although warning against
full penetration until the baby is a few years older). In April, 2010, a
13-year-old Yemeni girl died from injuries suffered to her womb during
"intercourse".

Some clerics show relative mercy on underage girls by advocating a process
known as "thighing" (also known as child molestation in the West).
According to a recent fatwa (number 23672), an imam answers this question:
"My parents married me to a young girl who hasn't yet reached puberty. How
can I enjoy her sexually?" by telling the 'man' that he may "hug her, kiss
her, and ejaculate between her legs."

Muhammad's penchant for girls so much younger than him was such that at
least two of his father-in-laws (Abu Bakr and Omar, the first two Caliphs)
were actually younger than him as well. This disappointing pattern is
very much at odds with the sort of sexual discipline that one might expect
of a true "prophet of God."

Muhammad's pursuit of Zaynab, the wife of his adopted son is almost as
tough for Muslims to explain. This is because it not only raises a
similar question of moral character, but also casts suspicion on whether
his so-called prophecies were really divine revelation or dictates of
personal convenience. According to one biographer, even Aisha appears to
be somewhat doubtful of Muhammad's claim that Allah commanded him to marry
Zaynab, wryly remarking, "Truly Allah seems to be very quick in fulfilling
your prayers."

So controversial was Muhammad's desire to marry his adopted son's wife
that he had to justify it with a stern pronouncement from Allah on the
very institution of adoption, which has had tragic consequences to this
day. Verses 33:4-5 are widely interpreted to imply that Islam is against
adoption, meaning that an untold number of children in the Islamic world
have been needlessly orphaned - all because Muhammad's lustful desires for
a married woman went beyond even what the other six wives that he
possessed at the time and a multitude of slaves could satisfy.

Some Muslims deny that Muhammad was married to more than four women at a
time, merely on the basis that the Qur'an only gives permission for
marrying four. Unfortunately, Muslims historians disagree. Only one of
Muhammad's last eleven wives died before him (Zaynab bint Khuzayma). The
rest outlived him by many years.

Muhammad forbade his ten widows from remarrying, even making sure that
this "divine" order was forever preserved in the eternal word of Allah -
Qur'an (33:53). To add insult to injury, they were all summarily
disinherited from Muhammad's estate by his successor (courtesy of another
divine order "given" to Abu Bakr from Allah).

In summary, Islam's holiest texts portray Muhammad not as a perfect man,
but as a sexual hedonist. Not only did he become fat from indulging in
food, but his pursuit of sex was no less gluttonous. On top of it all, he
used personal "revelations" from Allah to justify his debauchery to the
gullible masses which, to this day, continue to be venerated and memorized
as if they are the holiest of utterances.



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