MacDaddy01: So which bibble do you suggest? The catholic bible?

frosbel: The Kings James followers will rather we read a bible that most cannot comprehend , than literally more plain versions such as the NIV , NLT or even the Amplified bibles.

The KJV is the least accurate of all bibles and has some bad influences by the catholic church . In trying to align it's content with their many false doctrines, the catholic church has not only used some of the least trusted manuscripts, it has also interjected other meanings into the words of scripture.

One thing you hear the KJV fanatics say is, you need the Spirit of God to understand the KJV , I think this is just arrogance . God did not make the bible to be difficult to read. It's almost like equating the bible to that incomprehensible Quran which can be read only in Arabic.

God made our bible available in all languages , including a variety of modern English speaking versions.

There are also some good tools you will find useful for an effective bible study , such as a lexicon, concordance, Vine's Expository Dictionary etc.


Don't listen to the KJV followers, they are all catholics

MacDaddy01:


Catholics dont even use KJV. Frosbel is very ignorant;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Bible


The NIV bible which frosbel supports is partly sourced from the latin vulgate; A CATHOLIC SOURCE!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_International_Version#Features

The NLT bible which frosbel supports is sourced also from the latin vulgate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Living_Translation#Textual_basis

Amplified bible is based on the useless American standard bible


Frosbel fails agian

The manuscript base for the Old Testament was the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia Masoretic Hebrew Text. Other ancient texts consulted were the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Samaritan Pentateuch, the Aquila, Symmachus and Theodotion, the Latin Vulgate, the Syriac Peshitta, the Aramaic Targum, and for the Psalms the Juxta Hebraica of Jerome.[7] The manuscript base of the NIV was the Koine Greek language editions of the United Bible Societies and of Nestle-Aland for the New Testament.[8] The deuterocanonical books are not included in the translation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_International_Version

frosbel:

Considering that your dad told me you keep failing your exams, I am trying ro catch up with you,

By the way it is again not agian !

As mentioned earlier, one of the main people who translated the bible into KJV was a staunch catholic called Erasmus, google it.

Back to the NIV, please peruse this small historical excerpt below : The Latin vulgate was just a small part of the fuller picture.



Just remember no one wins here, we can always use wikipedia and google to support out points

Macdaddy01 epic fail in exams again.

free123: who says this guy is not mixing things up?
NIV, NASB and NWT even NKJV are all for new agers, those who deny Christ's divine nature, anti christs and followers of men. These men cannot stand the chance of hearing that Jesus Christ is God even Almighty God.

one cant say one abhors catholics and JW's doctrines yet uses their version of bible. one cannot mix things up and claim that he is standing alone or for the truth.

frosbel u once opened a thread to show how Christ is d same as God Almighty, u now deny that. It is now obvious to me that ur version of light is that of JW that keeps getting brighter with no sight of brightest light at all. who knows what u will come up with next time?

free123: Mr. NIV
it is appaling how u left d sound word of God for new age teachings. u cant bring in heresy just because u want to correct ur supposed archaic english language. u dont have to butcher d word of God just because u want to change thee thou ye wilst mayest etc. u tell me which is accepted - KJ Bible Teachings and heretical teachings.

i dont think ur children will encounter difficulties in learning the truth in KJV but will be damned in learning heresies contained in NIV.

free123: frosbel it is disheartening how u allowed new age teachings destroy d light i thought was in u. from supporting Israelis to dissing them, from claiming Jesus divine nature to reducing Him to God's influence on earth, from dissing catholics to opening threads that go round in arguments causing God's children to sin, from threads that wud not add anything to ones salvation (just to pass ur new age teachings) to whotnots. ur light keep getting darker i think so

frosbel:


Tell me Mr.KJV , my children don't understand the KJV English which is relatively archaic , what shall they do ? When I read the NIV or NLT versions they quickly grasp the concepts of the kingdom because the English used is more at their level of understanding.

Besides, what about those who cannot read English , should they stick to KJV and get an interpreter or continue to read their German, Yoruba, Igbo, and Russian bibles ?

Should I buy my children a Lexicon, dictionary of archaic English and maybe a concordance to comprehended scripture.

You are almost becoming as fanatical as the Muslims who insist that you can only read the Quran in classical Arabic. This is exactly how cults start.

SMH.


"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to." - Matthew 23:13

OLAADEGBU: I hope someone stops frosbel before he reaches the point of no return. Restoration is just one step away.