Ola one: Iyalode gbogbo gbo.









PDP is not bad if you ask me. At least they do conduct primaries. You have to be close to a guy on Bourdillon to contest as far as ACN is concerned. The process is archaic and biased. And they mouth off "progressive" every so often.

thelastPope: The gross hypocrisy of Tinubu's statement stinks to high heavens!

Have you ever heard or seen where any of the opposition senators and reps reject the largese that are shared in those houses? Are the opposition senators and reps not part and parcel of the ingrained corruption? Terrible hypocrisy.

When you listen to people like Tinubu, you will almost get the impression that all the senators and reps are PDP members. But the combination of all the opposition party members were able to influence who emerged as speaker yet they cannot influence any good law or ammendment of the constitution. Thieves!

Desola:

Emi niyen o. Mo n kii yin o.

so long as it makes you sleep at night at the thought of a beautiful arewa obirin is stalking you virtually,

shymexx: I still don't understand why we continue to force an American from of pseudo-democracy on ourselves... We're not Americans, and our histories and backgrounds are not relative - Nigeria is a tribal/ethnic based society, with different consciousness, based on ethnic lines... The Northerners are feudalists, Easterners are Capitalists, and South Westerners are more of a mix between Capitalists and Socialists... We're not a homogeneous country!!

To be honest, Senate has to go - and power needs to be dissolved from the center, to the new regions(formed along ethnic lines) - for the country to achieve greatness... America is a corporation and the American president is the head of the corporation - the states within America have more powers, locally, than the POTUS! The POTUS is in-charge of the foreign policy and everything under the corporation!

I still don't know why we keep copying a system of government we don't understand!

Sick country!

Ola one:
Iya ni yen.

I love this comment you made on Page 0:

PointB:

Thank God you finally sussed that guy out. I hope he doesn't start saying you are attacking Yoruba and Yoruba leaders (ACN and Tinubu by his own reckoning.) When I call him Resident Hypocrite, Tinubu Laptop #1, some think it's an unnecessary attack borne of bigotry. Glad to see others are noticing the hypocrisy, that is Gbawe!

Granted ACN hit the Jackpot with Fashola (who incidentally is been pegged back by Tinubu), and Oshimole (a self made principled man). And even those two fellow have equal match in PDP's Akpabio and Ameachi, and APGA's Rochas and Peter Obi! The class of Amosun, and Aregbesola are very mediocre governors, comparable to the likes of T. Orji, Elechi, and several nameless Northern Governors. You will never see Gbawe agree that Amosun, and Aregbesola have failed to live up to their hype. Can you point one major achievement of any of these two guys? But Gbawe think they are closer to Clinton in intellect, and George Bush in decisiveness! All because those mediocres are of ACN. Pray say, have you ever seen Gbawe compliment or encourage Mimiko, despite the respect and love he commands in Ondo state? Is not clear that he is only interested in promoting the growth of Tinubu empire - never what is good for yoruba man! Gbawe is a paid hack, while Beaf probably did his for fun or believe he had in project GEJ!

So what makes ACN so damn infallible to the extent Gbawe will never bear to see that Tinubu (of all people) is parading himself as the one to determine the fate of SW. So far, the only Yoruba who don't see anything wrong with that is picture is Gbawe, and his minions, who have made every one questioning ACN to be against, Yoruba (even jmaine, was not spared.) My dear, fight Igbos all you want, but don't let any of your 'brother' pull a wool over your face! Tinubu is not fit to lead the Yoruba race, he is too susceptible to blackmail; it would be a massive mistake to entrust your bargaining power to Tinubu! Why is a Yoruba not the speaker of the House today? Your hated 'Jonasathan' or 'Tinubu'? Yorubas pride themselves as intelligentsia, now is the time to think for yourself: Is Tinubu leading you aright, is Gbawe still that objective forumer of years ago?

Desola:

Emi niyen o. Omo to pe tan, to dun tan to see mu yangan lawujo obirin. Okin ni mi laarin awon arewa obirin.

Lilprocess: National Leader of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) Asiwaju Bola Tinubu yesterday called for the scrapping of the Senate, saying that it is costly to maintain and that it only replicates functions of the House of Representatives.

Tinubu spoke at the 2012 annual conference and awards ceremony of Leadership Newspapers Group where he also called for laws to allow Chairman of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) appoint state electoral commissioners (RECs) for the sake of fairness and credibility of the electoral process.
He said “we have kept complaining about the cost of governance and the recurrent expenditure…but we have never examined the structural problems of even the constitution that we are operating.

“We gave INEC power and authority to act on our behalf, to be an institution that will be transparent and independent and they are being funded directly from the source; from the allocation, first line charge, expenditure from our commonwealth,Federal Republic of Nigeria.

“Why would we not allow the buck to stop on the desk of the INEC Chairman so that if he messes up, we have somebody to blame. Why would an INEC chairman not be able to appoint those in the branches in the states, RECis the representative of INEC in the state; why would they be appointed bythe president who is equally partisan, a member of political party who said they would rule Nigeria for 60 years. How would they not?

“If they are the ones appointing RECs, card carrying members of PDP, how would we have a reliable electoral system? Whether you have executive position or not, power is not served ala carte, it is not like a menu in Sheraton, you have to struggle for it. Let’s first of all straighten and strengthen the institution. We are ready as opposition to work together with any other party to wrestle power from this inept government.”

Ola one:
Kai!

Hey you out there, name your price please. I want Seanet1 dealt with out .


But, seriously, we can't continue with what we have right now in SW. We need primaries. Imagine, in Oyo State, Dapo Lam Adesina was chosen. Saheed Fijabi, whose dad is a close friend of K1, Tinubu's pal, was chosen. Saheed became an honourable just like that without being a politician. It is who you know, really. What is progressive about that?


We aren't stupid.

Lilprocess: National Leader of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) Asiwaju Bola Tinubu yesterday called for the scrapping of the Senate, saying that it is costly to maintain and that it only replicates functions of the House of Representatives.

Tinubu spoke at the 2012 annual conference and awards ceremony of Leadership Newspapers Group where he also called for laws to allow Chairman of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) appoint state electoral commissioners (RECs) for the sake of fairness and credibility of the electoral process.
He said “we have kept complaining about the cost of governance and the recurrent expenditure…but we have never examined the structural problems of even the constitution that we are operating.

“Why do we need two houses of National Assembly when House of Representatives represent smaller constituencies enough in the same number of population? Why not get rid of the Senate? To equip better and effective legislative activities, let us start examining that.”

Desola:

Aboo rimi bayi? Oro lasan ni mo beere o ti agba iya yen ma de mu mi bu ke. I respected him a lot and was to a degree influenced by what I thought were unbiased points of views and political issues affecting Nigeria but as time passed, I started to notice a pattern - a pattern where you were not allowed to speak against the ACN, that if you were Yoruba, you were meant to accept all that ACN does so as to resist PDP in every way. No one loathes the PDP and the jonasatan's government more than me but I refuse to be a sheep and take all that ACN does, hook, line and sinker. ACN isn't infallible, they are nothing more than an offshoot of PDP (giving that a good chunk of their members were at some point PDP card carriers) but they on the back of Fashola and Oshiomole seem to be edging their rivals. However, must we say because one is our child, we should over pamper it? If we don't remove the speck from our eyes, should be wait for others to do it? I have never read any thread where this man has constructively criticised ACN or is he trying to say that they are without blesmish? Trust me, Seanet, your egbon is no longer impartial. I have a strong belief that he is now being paid. He is not as objective as he used to be.

He can call me all obscenities in the book but I make no apologies for my NL personality. I don't wear masks like he does and to be honest, he has let me down big time.

Desola:

Lobatan! Liar! Sycophant!

Desola:

If that is the case, why is he getting personally involved a la sending his wife to the senate? Is he a do as I say and not as I do leader? His utterances are not in alignment with his actions. He now wants to do away with the same system he has tremendously and continues to benefit from? I don't get it. We need to be careful, very careful at choosing our leaders. He doen't even practice what he's preaching!

gulfer: Taking a cue from Senegal......I say YES and lets push it because they are just feeding fat on the nation and doing practically nothing.

Sky Blue:

Don't really want to focus too much on what Soyinka thinks or not because he is not a deity, but I brought that issue up to point out an appreciation he now has for what convening SNC entails and what the purpose really is. Instead of that he started pushing for regionalism.



Regional integration can transcend economic questing to reach into legislature and combined regional interests and stands that come out in laws. Each state has a house of assembly. What have the many house of assemblies we have achieved. At the end of the day co operation is better than everybody trying to fight their own battle and will achieve more if we think strategic. Not every state needs to have its own airport, but instead of a group of states pooling resources to bring just one airport to international standard and improving rail links, we have many village airport scattered all over the place including Lagos. With regards to the time frame you speak of, democracy takes time.

@Dudu Negro posted a point which I think is important. The current system and constitution we have now was bequethed to the nation by the military. Unless we have long term thinking and altruistic politicians in mid that see Nigeria as a whole and not as units, the constitution review is going to take TIME, UNLESS the people can rise up under an umbrella and demand things. Change can happen if Nigerians unite and rise up, but in the likely probability that does not happen we need to think strategically on working solutions in the current system that can get us where we want. If you can come up with workable plans towards SNC in the nearest future and not ten years time then power to you. For me, what seems workable now in regional integration, strategic projects, and passing laws in groups as a means of eroding power from the center.

At the end of the day the main reason we are even having this talk at all is because the private sector is weak due to weak infrastructure which in our system is the responsibility of the government, the citizenry seems to solely rely on the government to make tangible improvements in their lives. Believe me if there was just power, security and good transport links no one will give a flying rats a.rse what happens in Abuja. To get these things and get to that stage, we need to start thinking wisely on strategic and workable solutions.

alkhwarizm:

Exactly. Tinubu is biting off of Senegal president Macky Sall and passing the idea off as his own.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19407427

naturalwaves:
And Ow does his post make him a liar or a Sychophant? Y do I come across D.AFT persons on NL everyday?

Cruz-gee:
that amounts to the "abolition" of his wife and his inlaw in the house nau ;

Demdem:

i respect ur wonderful opinion and the solution you proffered but i dont agree its the best way out of our predicament. I also wouldn't want to thrash it out one by one at least for now.

The foundation of the nation of ours is faulty and criminous and no amount of patching, window dressing, amendments etc that one does to this building of ours (our nation)can rescue the already battered building. Until we go back and remould the foundation, we are simply wasting our time and extending the evil days.
Peace.

Desola:

You are actually more daft by replying to a daft post. You're not any better than the person who made the "daft" comment.

naturalwaves:
Just wen I was abt apologising going by d fact dat U said ur post was borne out of previous threads,I saw dat U've modified d post into this & U lost my respect.I only made d comment cos I kuldn't decipher d correlatn btw d daft post of urs and wat U quoted. Atleast U agree ur post was indeed daft.
#Lobatan#

Moreover,it is a very childish attitude 2 make posts based on past encounters wit someone.It would av done U no harm 2 ignore his post if U av nothing meaningful 2 say it.It's just a simple social etiquette.Infact,some persons wuld av suggested u av ur brain tested wit dat daft post of urs in relatn 2 wat u quoted.

naturalwaves:
Just wen I was abt apologising going by d fact dat U said ur post was borne out of previous threads,I saw dat U've modified d post into this & U lost my respect.I only made d comment cos I kuldn't decipher d correlatn btw d daft post of urs and wat U quoted. Atleast U agree ur post was indeed daft.
#Lobatan#

Moreover,it is a very childish attitude 2 make posts based on past encounters wit someone.It would av done U no harm 2 ignore his post if U av nothing meaningful 2 say it.It's just a simple social etiquette.Infact,some persons wuld av suggested u av ur brain tested wit dat daft post of urs in relatn 2 wat u quoted.

kodewrita:

I am very ok with copying good ideas from anywhere. as long as they make sense.

Desola: while it appears that Tinubu makes sense in his suggestions, he is in no position to talk really as not only is he a beneficiary of the rot in government, he is also a perpetrator. That he created a party different from that of the notorious evil party - PDP, does not avail him from the ills he has also committed. If truly he believes in fairness and credibility, he would have encouraged a far more qualified ACN member to represent Lagos state and not foist his wife whom had no recorded experience in political administration other than being a one time first lady of Lagos state. Admitedly, PDP is probably the worst political party that has ever happened to Nigeria, but ACN with its oligarchic tendencies could be another PDP waiting to happen.

As per the matter he raised, my opinion is that for there to be check and balance, we require both the lower and the upper houses. Getting rid of one and giving absolute power to the other would be absolutely wrong (at least in Nigeria) because we know that absolute power corrupts absolutely! What we need is an overhaul, restructuring but not removal. In all, our powers need to be separated and made more effective, less corruptible and more credible. These are what we need. Can you tell the UK to remove the house of Lords or tell the US to remove the senate? It makes no sense.

Tinubu should come up with suggestions that can actually be implemented not just talking for talking sake so as to be seen as an opposition leader. He is getting stale fast.