ACM10: Naija too like to copy. We go copy the wasteful aspect of US politics, then leave behind its cost-cutting aspects.

Gbawe:

This is the crux of the matter. Had it been that Nigeria is not a Nation that bastardizes successful models seen elsewhere,Tinubu's call would be unnecessary. Everything in Nigeria has to be turned into an avenue for a few to derive stupendous wealth which should ordinarily go towards developing the nation.

Desola:

Lobatan! Liar! Sycophant!

seanet01: Aya mi owon, owa jegunre bi? Egbon Gbawe kin se eyan be rara. He is not a sycophant i swear. I knew this fight was on the ACN issue but you mistook his likeness of ACN for hypocrisy, but he is not an hypocrite i swear. Unlike beaf who get paid for hogwash, he derives passion supporting a performing party. Iyalode Tinubu jowo jegunre

Desola: while it appears that Tinubu makes sense in his suggestions, he is in no position to talk really as not only is he a beneficiary of the rot in government, he is also a perpetrator. That he created a party different from that of the notorious evil party - PDP, does not avail him from the ills he has also committed. If truly he believes in fairness and credibility, he would have encouraged a far more qualified ACN member to represent Lagos state and not foist his wife whom had no recorded experience in political administration other than being a one time first lady of Lagos state. Admitedly, PDP is probably the worst political party that has ever happened to Nigeria, but ACN with its oligarchic tendencies could be another PDP waiting to happen.

As per the matter he raised, my opinion is that for there to be check and balance, we require both the lower and the upper houses. Getting rid of one and giving absolute power to the other would be absolutely wrong (at least in Nigeria) because we know that absolute power corrupts absolutely! What we need is an overhaul, restructuring but not removal. In all, our powers need to be separated and made more effective, less corruptible and more credible. These are what we need. Can you tell the UK to remove the house of Lords or tell the US to remove the senate? It makes no sense.

Tinubu should come up with suggestions that can actually be implemented not just talking for talking sake so as to be seen as an opposition leader. He is getting stale fast.

HNosegbe: Well, the scrapping of the Senate requires an amendment to the constitution. A constitutional amendment requires the passage of BOTH houses of parliament, the Senate inclusive. And therein lies the problem. Which set of legislooters will pass a law to abolish their "green chamber", thereby removing their source of livelihood?

Good suggestion, but dead on arrival.

seanet01: Aya mi owon, owa jegunre bi? Egbon Gbawe kin se eyan be rara. He is not a sycophant i swear. I knew this fight was on the ACN issue but you mistook his likeness of ACN for hypocrisy, but he is not an hypocrite i swear. Unlike beaf who get paid for hogwash, he derives passion supporting a performing party. Iyalode Tinubu jowo jegunre

Gbawe:

Seanet,save your words. This is how I gain stalkers on this forum. Nairalanders can see what happened below that is now making this worthless market woman, from hell, to follow me around malevolently. The truth is that I will squash this silly fool bred in a motor park if I am interested in doing that. Alas, well-bred gentlemen do not engage or demean women.

This is direct history in the making and a chance for some Nairalanders to see why I have so many stalkers despite not being a controversial character. Gbawe gains another malevolent stalker because he conducted himself properly and bested hateful, uncouth and malevolent creatures intellectually and with[b] factual evidence[/b] on the thread below:

https://www.nairaland.com/1050126/2015-jonathan-pdp-fail-s-west

Guy, save you breadth. I am just happy this example has presented itself as proof of why I have so many malevolent stalkers here. Proof of the sheer wickedness and hatefulk soul of some Nigerians who think they can go around peddling unadulterated hatred and mindless negativity. When you then stand up to them, they make you the centre of their attention and hatred. Typical.

Desola: while it appears that Tinubu makes sense in his suggestions, he is in no position to talk really as not only is he a beneficiary of the rot in government, he is also a perpetrator. That he created a party different from that of the notorious evil party - PDP, does not avail him from the ills he has also committed. If truly he believes in fairness and credibility, he would have encouraged a far more qualified ACN member to represent Lagos state and not foist his wife whom had no recorded experience in political administration other than being a one time first lady of Lagos state. Admitedly, PDP is probably the worst political party that has ever happened to Nigeria, but ACN with its oligarchic tendencies could be another PDP waiting to happen.

As per the matter he raised, my opinion is that for there to be check and balance, we require both the lower and the upper houses. Getting rid of one and giving absolute power to the other would be absolutely wrong (at least in Nigeria) because we know that absolute power corrupts absolutely! What we need is an overhaul, restructuring but not removal. In all, our powers need to be separated and made more effective, less corruptible and more credible. These are what we need. Can you tell the UK to remove the house of Lords or tell the US to remove the senate? It makes no sense.

Tinubu should come up with suggestions that can actually be implemented not just talking for talking sake so as to be seen as an opposition leader. He is getting stale fast.

Sky Blue: Tinubu's idea is not feasible in the current set up and just seems a very very cheap ploy to gain "integrity" by hopping on cheap populist sentiments that on closer scrutiny fall apart on implementation. Unfortunately, some people will buy into it. How about solutions that are actually workable? The house has two chambers for a reason.

Dudu_Negro:

Desola,

I like your response. Tinubu's statement has no substance on its face value but deep underneath it has monumental meaning. This statement was not made spontaneously.

Demdem:

Read between the lines. he is basically calling for SNC. To acheive what he said, our whole political structure will need to be re-designed and constitution re-written

Sky Blue:

Again, cheap populist sentiment. It seems to be the running fad these days. Want to sound intellectual? Call for Sovereign National Conference and that seems to erase all negative views about you in the eyes of the people. Calling for SNC WITHOUT a clear path towards achieving it, all the logistics involved, and carrying Nigerians along is nothing more that hopping on cheap populist sentiments (even Soyinka seems to have cooled off on the whole SNC and has instead started fighting for good governance as exemplified by Akpaibo after he visited Uyo). Does that mean SNC is a bad idea? No. But when Nigerians are really ready for that change some of us desperately desire then that change will come. It requires galvanising of the people and the people unknowingly have what they want. SNC seems to be the new "I will give you road, I will give you light, I will give you house" campaign jingle.

seanet01: Aya mi, the reality on ground here is actually different from this your theoretical inputs.
To actually confront the monster called pdp you need a monster like Tinubu i swear. As somebody who have lived in Nigeria before i know what am talking about.
On the issue of the senate, Tinubu is right to some extent. But the failure of the senate to make positive impact on the Nigeria society is a remote failure of the masses. Not being brave enough to demand your basic rights is the issue. Tinubu is doing a lot more positive than negative. Though i despice some dictatorial tendencies of his, but history has in several cases passed a positive judgement on some of Tinubu's dictations. Example includes the issue of Fashola against Afikuyomi in an open primary, the latter would have boiled the earlier. Tinubu might have his mistakes as a human being, his positives far outweigh his negatives. Noff said