2mch: Not everybody can live in Lagos. If you come to Lagos with no residence and plan to lay on the road pending when you are able to join a gang of robbers for fast money, then you will be given free transportation back home. Living in the city is not for every one. rural life is stress free, fresh and more rewarding. Even our rural areas in Lagos have become jam packed. We have no peaceful place or villa homes, where we can go and rest without seeing 1million people. . Try and stay in your village and develop it.

Germannig:

One of the deported said she is a computer operator who was arrested on the street while walking to her destination. What do you say about that? Or is a computer operator now also a destitute?

2mch:

Yahoo boys call themselves computer scientist, computer programmers etc. So what's your point? They run from their villages where they are afraid to demand things from their governors, run to Lagos and develop shacks and start fighting to live there. Becoming an absolute nuisance. Lagos cannot take up the responsibility of other state governments who keep spending and living lavishly. Go and fight for your right in your state.

Germannig:

One of the deported said she is a computer operator who was arrested on the street while walking to her destination. What do you say about that? Or is a computer operator now also a destitute?

Geomac:
did you believe her?

Germannig:

Why did Lagos not take the small pain to investigate her claim? That surely is cheaper than paying for a ride for someone who did not deserve it. Besides, what's more important, protecting good citizens, no matter how lowly their occupation might be, or deporting good citizens in the guise of deporting bad ones?

Germannig: Sometime in 2010 or so, Fasola deported destitute northerners from Lagos back to the North. He then deported destitute south westerners last year back to Ekiti, Oyo, Ondo, Osun and Ogun. Recently, he struck again by deporting destitutes from Lagos to Onitsha. We do not have the full details of who those people dumped in Onitsha are, but presumably they're Igbos and other non-Igbo easterners.

The fact that Fasola deported people from all walks of life in Nigeria back to their natural enclaves may make his action detribalized. But it does not make it non-selective and highly discriminatory. I will not go into the constitutionality or otherwise of the action, as am no lawyer, although it is unheard of, world over, that people get deported from their own country.

That brings me to today's talking points:

Why is Fasola deporting some non-indigenes of Lagos and leaving others?

What is the rationale behind deporting beggar Adamu and not millionaire Rafiatu? Why is Fasola weeding Lagos of ''bad'' non-Lagosians and leaving ''good'' non-Lagosians? Keep in mind that these bad Lagosians are not necessarily criminals but beggars, most certainly constituting some level of socio-enviromental unpleasantness.


Should Fasola not go the whole hog and deport every Igbo, Hausa, Ijaw, Fulani and indeed non-Yoruba Lagosians out of Lagos so that Lagos will be for indigenes only?

Why should, for example, an Igbo man (a rich, tax-paying one) contribute to building Lagos and another Igbo man (a poor beggar) be disallowed from eating from Lagos?

Every sane Nigerian should be calling on Fasola to either stop deporting some (''bad'') Nigerians from Lagos or deport everyone who is not Lagosian (''bad'' and ''good'') from Lagos.

Dudu_Negro:

....theres a solution, give every iboman, rich or poor, a Lagos State issued "refugee number".

Gbawe: You Yoruba guys should know better !!! Are some of you even genuine Lagosians or just talking vacuously for the sake of taunting others ? Do you even want a more humane future where everyone coexist in peace and harmony? Has NL now ruined some of you to the extent you don't do reality any more? I went to school (Primary and secondary) with many Igbos, Hausas, Fulanis, Edos et al. Many were born and bred in Lagos. They are my friends and fellow Lagosians. You guys cannot just wake up and disenfranchise them like that. Nations are progressing mentally and physically yet Nigeria is regressing. So-called educated men are talking like savages.

Of course I don't agree that Lagos should be swamped with refugees but it has been disgusting to read, throughout the forum, nauseating talk about "first class, second class, third class Lagosians" et al. It is sad to note the vainglorious sense of entitlement and "first class" superiority some of you feel. Many of you, in the diaspora, would be the same posters to vehemently blast white supremacists as "evil racist" , fit only for the gas chamber, because those caucasians consider themselves first class citizens and refuse to accept that they have no greater entitlement than others born and bred , or have lived for a long time, in the same area as them. Just because you are white does not make you more of a "Londoner" than Mo Farah who came there , from Somalia, at the age of 8.

Gbawe: You Yoruba guys should know better !!! Are some of you even genuine Lagosians or just talking vacuously for the sake of taunting others ? Do you even want a more humane future where everyone coexist in peace and harmony? Has NL now ruined some of you to the extent you don't do reality any more? I went to school (Primary and secondary) with many Igbos, Hausas, Fulanis, Edos et al. Many were born and bred in Lagos. They are my friends and fellow Lagosians. You guys cannot just wake up and disenfranchise them like that. Nations are progressing mentally and physically yet Nigeria is regressing. So-called educated men are talking like savages.

Of course I don't agree that Lagos should be swamped with refugees but it has been disgusting to read, throughout the forum, nauseating talk about "first class, second class, third class Lagosians" et al. It is sad to note the vainglorious sense of entitlement and "first class" superiority some of you feel. Many of you, in the diaspora, would be the same posters to vehemently blast white supremacists as "evil racist" , fit only for the gas chamber, because those caucasians consider themselves first class citizens and refuse to accept that they have no greater entitlement than others born and bred , or have lived for a long time, in the same area as them. Just because you are white does not make you more of a "Londoner" than Mo Farah who came there , from Somalia, at the age of 8.

berem: another Wole Shoyinka in the making! A detribalized nigerian that's what you are.from today,you earn my respect as a true NL hero! Oya take 100000likes!

Gbawe: You Yoruba guys should know better !!! Are some of you even genuine Lagosians or just talking vacuously for the sake of taunting others ? Do you even want a more humane future where everyone coexist in peace and harmony? Has NL now ruined some of you to the extent you don't do reality any more? I went to school (Primary and secondary) with many Igbos, Hausas, Fulanis, Edos et al. Many were born and bred in Lagos. They are my friends and fellow Lagosians. You guys cannot just wake up and disenfranchise them like that. Nations are progressing mentally and physically yet Nigeria is regressing. So-called educated men are talking like savages.

Of course I don't agree that Lagos should be swamped with refugees but it has been disgusting to read, throughout the forum, nauseating talk about "first class, second class, third class Lagosians" et al. It is sad to note the vainglorious sense of entitlement and "first class" superiority some of you feel. Many of you, in the diaspora, would be the same posters to vehemently blast white supremacists as "evil racist" , fit only for the gas chamber, because those caucasians consider themselves first class citizens and refuse to accept that they have no greater entitlement than others born and bred , or have lived for a long time, in the same area as them. Just because you are white does not make you more of a "Londoner" than Mo Farah who came there , from Somalia, at the age of 8.

Gbawe: You Yoruba guys should know better !!! Are some of you even genuine Lagosians or just talking vacuously for the sake of taunting others ? Do you even want a more humane future where everyone coexist in peace and harmony? Has NL now ruined some of you to the extent you don't do reality any more? I went to school (Primary and secondary) with many Igbos, Hausas, Fulanis, Edos et al. Many were born and bred in Lagos. They are my friends and fellow Lagosians. You guys cannot just wake up and disenfranchise them like that. Nations are progressing mentally and physically yet Nigeria is regressing. So-called educated men are talking like savages.

Of course I don't agree that Lagos should be swamped with refugees but it has been disgusting to read, throughout the forum, nauseating talk about "first class, second class, third class Lagosians" et al. It is sad to note the vainglorious sense of entitlement and "first class" superiority some of you feel. Many of you, in the diaspora, would be the same posters to vehemently blast white supremacists as "evil racist" , fit only for the gas chamber, because those caucasians consider themselves first class citizens and refuse to accept that they have no greater entitlement than others born and bred , or have lived for a long time, in the same area as them. Just because you are white does not make you more of a "Londoner" than Mo Farah who came there , from Somalia, at the age of 8.

Gbawe: You Yoruba guys should know better !!! Are some of you even genuine Lagosians or just talking vacuously for the sake of taunting others ? Do you even want a more humane future where everyone coexist in peace and harmony? Has NL now ruined some of you to the extent you don't do reality any more? I went to school (Primary and secondary) with many Igbos, Hausas, Fulanis, Edos et al. Many were born and bred in Lagos. They are my friends and fellow Lagosians. You guys cannot just wake up and disenfranchise them like that. Nations are progressing mentally and physically yet Nigeria is regressing. So-called educated men are talking like savages.

Of course I don't agree that Lagos should be swamped with refugees but it has been disgusting to read, throughout the forum, nauseating talk about "first class, second class, third class Lagosians" et al. It is sad to note the vainglorious sense of entitlement and "first class" superiority some of you feel. Many of you, in the diaspora, would be the same posters to vehemently blast white supremacists as "evil racist" , fit only for the gas chamber, because those caucasians consider themselves first class citizens and refuse to accept that they have no greater entitlement than others born and bred , or have lived for a long time, in the same area as them. Just because you are white does not make you more of a "Londoner" than Mo Farah who came there , from Somalia, at the age of 8.

birdman:

Arent you taking nairaland a little too seriously? Maybe you need to step away for a few days. Most of these keyboard warriors dont have a stake in anything - how do you know the "yoruba" and "igbo" posters are who they say they are, not some 12 year old tapping away at the keyboard.

Wake up. Mo Farah wil never be a first class citizen, even if they confer knighthood on him. Only a foolish man goes to someone else's country and actually believes he is equal.

Race of the Future
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Race of the Future theory/idea states that due to the process of miscegenation, the mixing of different races, especially in marriage, cohabitation, or sexual relations, all the races are blending to become one single new race in the future[citation needed].
Contents [hide]
1 History
2 Contemporary developments
3 See also
4 References
[edit]History

Count Richard Nikolaus von Coudenhove-Kalergi distinctly advocated race mixing in his 1925 Practical Idealism:[1]
"The man of the future will be of mixed race. Today's races and classes will gradually disappear owing to the vanishing of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-Negroid race of the future, similar in its appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples with a diversity of individuals."
The same scenario had been envisaged, with rather less enthusiasm, by Madison Grant in his 1916 The Passing of the Great Race, calling for an eugenics program to prevent this development, and in a similar ideological context in Lothrop Stoddard's The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy in 1920.
Gottfried de Purucker was an author and theosophist. When asked about intermarriage in 1930, he said "In answering your question very briefly, I can say simply this, that the time has not come when I would willingly suggest intermarriage; but I am in honesty bound to qualify that by saying that the race of the future will be a composite, composed of the many different races on earth today. Let us also remember that all men are ultimately of one blood."[2]
The word miscegenation was used in an anonymous propaganda pamphlet printed in New York City in late 1863, entitled Miscegenation: The Theory of the Blending of the Races, Applied to the American White Man and Negro. The pamphlet purported to be in favor of interbreeding of whites and blacks until the races were indistinguishably mixed as mulattos, claiming that this was the goal of the United States Republican Party. The real authors were David Goodman Croly, managing editor of the New York World, a Democratic Party paper, and George Wakeman, a World reporter. The pamphlet soon was exposed as an attempt to discredit the Republicans, the Lincoln administration, and the abolitionist movement by exploiting the fears and racial biases common among whites. Nonetheless, this pamphlet and variations on it were reprinted widely in communities on both sides of the American Civil War by opponents of Republicans.
The British colony of Maryland was the first to pass an anti-miscegenation law (1664).[3] In the 18th, 19th, and early 20th century, many American states passed anti-miscegenation laws, often based on controversial interpretations of the Bible, particularly the story of Phinehas. Typically a felony, these laws prohibited the solemnization of weddings between persons of different races and prohibited the officiating of such ceremonies. Sometimes the individuals attempting to marry would not be held guilty of miscegenation itself, but felony charges of adultery or fornication would be brought against them instead. Connecticut, New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, Vermont, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Alaska, Hawaii, and the federal District of Columbia did not pass anti-miscegenation laws. In 1883, the constitutionality of anti-miscegenation laws was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in Pace v. Alabama.
In 1948, the California Supreme Court in Perez v. Sharp effectively repealed the California anti-miscegenation statutes, thereby making California the first state in the twentieth century to do so. In 1967, the remaining anti-miscegenation laws in 16 states were declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in Loving v. Virginia.
[edit]Contemporary developments

In the United States, the proportion of Multiracial American children is growing. Interracial partnerships are rising, as are transracial adoptions. In 1990, about 14% of 18-19 year-olds, 12% of 20-21 year-olds, and 7% of 34-35 year-olds were involved in interracial relationships (Joyner and Kao, 2005).[4]
Interracial marriage is still uncommon, especially among Whites. In 2010, 15% of new marriages were interracial, and of those only 9% of Whites married outside of their race. Of the 275,000 new interracial marriages in 2010, 43% were white-Hispanic, 14.4% were white-Asian, 11.9% were white-black and the rest were other combinations. Black-white marriages are the least common interracial coupling. [5]
According to the anthropologist Henry Harpending, human populations are diverging from one another, as opposed to melding into a single population. Harpending stated “Human races are evolving away from each other [...] Genes are evolving fast in Europe, Asia and Africa, but almost all of these are unique to their continent of origin. We are getting less alike, not merging into a single, mixed humanity.” [6]

Eko Atlantic:

Mr Gbawe you're right to some extent, but I doubt it this method can be applied to the issue of Nigeria. Apart from S/West(Lagos and Ogun specifically), I doubt if there is any state, city or region where immigrants can say trash about his host state. A person migrated from his home state to Lagos, on getting there he joined his people by saying "Lagos is no mans land". Is that rightful of him? It's annoying to people like us.

Can any yoruba man go up North, even cities where their elites are and say such? I doubt if he'll be alive the next minute. Or is it the East that an Hausa man'll go and say because his father was born there he owns the place?

Your theory can't work in a country where the victims will do worse if it's in his region. It can only work where the people the are civilized and have a different way of thinking from the way most Nigerians think. These people needs orientation to change their mentality of this is my region. I bet you if it has been the other way round our Easterners might not even deport but do something worse.

In a civilized community, this issue is not a big deal that LASG can't solve without making blunder. But are we going to keep on waiting until these people learn?

omosexy1:

I think you have failed to realise that Lagos is a city. Can anyone claim New York? Can anyone claim Abuja now? How about Port-Harcourt? Even London. I think this nonsense should stop. Our yoruba brothers must come to the term of realisation that nobody owns Lagos anymore, it is now owned by hard working people who intend to develop the city. While we have not seen a huge influx of white foreigners and other nationalities is because the Nigerian economy is not developed. But be prepared for this, because we cannot escape it. You cannot go to the North because the North has nothing to offer, economic activities is even on the negative side. Please go and confirm from Fashola - An Igbo man who contributes to the growth of Lagos (by paying his taxes and providing jobs) is a better citizen than a Yoruba Lagosian who contributes zero naira to the lagos economy.

Gbawe:
Look, stop this blase talk. Discrimination is never good. Issues are not about taking anything "too seriously". This forum is a cauldron of hatred because openly nauseating opinions are accepted and even encouraged. What are you suggesting exactly? I should not contribute to show what I believe in because I should assume I am talking to a 12 year old? Look, I just could not stand the nauseating talk any more as a genuine Lagosian who grew up with others I fully accept to be my fellow Lagosians even if not from my ethnic group.

Sorry, but you display an enslaved mentality talking as you do above. Is it because the racist loser in his council Estate fails to acknowledge Mo that makes you conclude he is not "first class"? When a Nation has awarded it highest honours to its citizens, regardless of their colour, why do people like you continue to see race? What more do you want to see to note that Nationhood, whether racists like it or not, and as the world continues to evolve, will eventually be about 'good citizens' and not colour or where you originally came from?

This notion of "someone else's Country" is actually a mental prison that prevent's man from progressing. Mo Farah is from "someone else's Country" that you assume to be Somalia. What if Somalians reject him because he is from "somewhere else" because, for example, his mum is Nigerian or his Granddad is Togolese? Where does the discrimination, centred entirely and myopically around ethnic and local origin, end? Should issues not be about those who use a Land and are contributing positively to that land? The racists may have done well to convince you Mo is not "first class" because he is from "someone else's Country" but you are no better accepting their cowardly premises and defining your views by it.

omosexy1:

I think you have failed to realise that Lagos is a city. Can anyone claim New York? Can anyone claim Abuja now? How about Port-Harcourt? Even London. I think this nonsense should stop. Our yoruba brothers must come to the term of realisation that nobody owns Lagos anymore, it is now owned by hard working people who intend to develop the city. While we have not seen a huge influx of white foreigners and other nationalities is because the Nigerian economy is not developed. But be prepared for this, because we cannot escape it. You cannot go to the North because the North has nothing to offer, economic activities is even on the negative side. Please go and confirm from Fashola - An Igbo man who contributes to the growth of Lagos (by paying his taxes and providing jobs) is a better citizen than a Yoruba Lagosian who contributes zero naira to the lagos economy.

omosexy1:

I think you have failed to realise that Lagos is a city. Can anyone claim New York? Can anyone claim Abuja now? How about Port-Harcourt? Even London. I think this nonsense should stop. Our yoruba brothers must come to the term of realisation that nobody owns Lagos anymore, it is now owned by hard working people who intend to develop the city. While we have not seen a huge influx of white foreigners and other nationalities is because the Nigerian economy is not developed. But be prepared for this, because we cannot escape it. You cannot go to the North because the North has nothing to offer, economic activities is even on the negative side. Please go and confirm from Fashola - An Igbo man who contributes to the growth of Lagos (by paying his taxes and providing jobs) is a better citizen than a Yoruba Lagosian who contributes zero naira to the lagos economy.

birdman:






If you feel the need to be recognized and honored in someone else's home while yours rots, you really are mentally enslaved. All humans are equal, but why is Farah worried about petty council estate issues while his homeland burns. Is that not mental slavery?

Gbawe:

You are just talking for the sake of it ... and nothing shows this more than the section in bold above. Where do you, from the conversation so far, get the notion that "Farah worried about petty council estate issues while his homeland burns"? Besides, do you you know what Mo Farah does for East Africa , that rich and localised Africans doth bother with, or do you just like revelling in ignorance :

http://www.mofarahfoundation.org.uk/

Mo Farah is exemplary and this is how ignorance and pessimism just leads some of you to judge others unfairly. What do you want from Mo? He should contest to be President of Somalia?

Even if Mo was the sort who has not 'looked back' can folks like you not accept that loyalties change and that we should not sit in judgement of anybody? If Mo feels more committed to his life in the UK, having lived there for 21 of his 29 years on Earth, why should you or anyone else hold him up as a compulsory champion of a place he left as an 8 year old?

Can you not appreciate how intolerant you sound? Is it no longer about where you have spent the most time in, have the most friends in plus enjoyed the most positive and uplifting memories in? Should it not be about the Country/State one has the greatest loyalty to? Barack Obama should have contested to be President of Kenya then !!! There is a social yet unspoken contract that means people generally love and are loyal to places that developed/raised them.

Is every black man, linked to the African continent, now somehow obligated to going back to play saviour? Mo Farah is not a politician yet he does his best - which is more than can be said for some so-called internet pan-Africanists. Mo should not be ashamed of what Britain has done to develop him optimally. He is a "first class" Briton in my opinion and only folks like you would not appreciate this because you simply don't acknowledge evolution to note that "the only thing constant in life is change".

birdman:

Lol. Are you just pretending to be slow? Is the specific Mo Farah you just mentioned the every day Somali? And why would being far richer change anything. And fall back with that annoying holier than thou attitude - you cant browbeat me like Beaf. My suggesting that you pay attention to your home before decorating others is in no way intolerant. It is common sense, and you are silly for even suggesting otherwise. I think you realize you have no ground to stand on and have decided to resort to ad hominem attacks. Maybe I should frame the argument by juxtaposing Buhari and GEJ, as this seems to be one of the few times you are able to marshal any rational argument.