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| Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Itohen: 6:39am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Osun State Governor, Mr. Rauf Argbesola, has said state governors are not chief security officers of their respective states. Aregbesola, who spoke on Tuesday, in Osogbo said governors were not chief security officers in the true sense of the word, stressing that “no commissioner of police will listen to the directive or instruction of any governor.” Aregbesola also made a case for the need to establish state police in the country, saying the idea remained the panacea for ensuring effective security nationwide. A statement by the Director, Bureau of Communication and Strategy, Mr. Semiu Okanlawon, said Aregbesola made the call when he signed state Security Trust Fund Law at the Governor’s Office, Abere. He said, “The bogus appellation given to the governors as Chief Security Officers of their respective states is a mere expression. “Those who say Nigeria is not ripe for state police are not sincere. I don’t know where they get their own reasoning from. Even school campuses have their own police to ensure that criminal activities are curbed in their institutions.” http://www.punchng.com/news/governors-not-chief-security-officers-aregbesola/ 1 Like |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Vogue50: 7:41am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Itohen: Osun State Governor, Mr. Rauf Argbesola, has said state governors are not chief security officers of their respective states.state security should be the ideal thing to curb all the social ills emanating from poor lapses in the system. The simple truth is , governors will abuse the essence ; wooing police commissioners to their side through bribery , use the platform to fight their political enemies and create anarchy in their respective states. Aregbesola is very stupid for making such a statement ! Should he decline from his obligated responsibilities because the states are not in charge of its security? He should face the challenges and protect lives and properties as the chief security offiicer of the state. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Orisirisi: 8:07am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Aregbesola is correct, issue of security is for the individual state to manage rather than bogus it is now. All of us can not reason alike and we are not criminaly minded at thesame rate. The state should have state police and abolish immunity for political office holder to checkmate any wayward governor. 1 Like |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Demdem(m): 8:35am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Aregbe is absolutely right and am with him on this issue. Governors are just mere observers as regards the security of lives and properties in their states. 1 Like |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Afam4eva(m): 9:24am On Oct 17, 2012 |
He's absolutely right! It's unfortunate that people blame governors for the security situation in their states. That's why some of them especiallyu from the south are clamoring for state police. That way they will be in charge of the security apparatus of the state. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Whobedatte(m): 9:26am On Oct 17, 2012 |
When it comes being alive to their billings, thats when they spew rubbish. But he can donate billions for thiefnubus birthday bash and also loot billions abi, Like Godfather, Like Godson. Tout turned Gov! |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Afam4eva(m): 9:27am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Whobedatte: When it comes being alive to their billings, thats when they spew rubbish. But he can donate billions for thiefnubus birthday bash and also loot billions abi, Like Godfather, Like Godson. Tout turned Gov!That's not the point of this thread...Stick to the topic. 7 Likes |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Whobedatte(m): 9:30am On Oct 17, 2012 |
afam4eva:Dem Dem! |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Demdem(m): 9:30am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Whobedatte: [s]When it comes being alive to their billings, thats when they spew rubbish. But he can donate billions for thiefnubus birthday bash and also loot billions abi, Like Godfather, Like Godson. Tout turned Gov![/s] "Crappy Bullshit" |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Nobody: 9:32am On Oct 17, 2012 |
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| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by IleIfe2(m): 9:36am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Whobedatte: When it comes being alive to their billings, thats when they spew rubbish. But he can donate billions for thiefnubus birthday bash and also loot billions abi, Like Godfather, Like Godson. Tout turned Gov!  Kpara e!! |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Intrepid1(m): 9:38am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Are our Governors responsible enough to control security forces? We know how the Presidency uses the Police and Army to determine results during elections. How many Governors can, and will effective manage State Police forces under their control without using them to intimidate and oppress political rivals? |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Afam4eva(m): 9:40am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Intrepid!:With this mindset, don't you think the federal police should be scrapped since the FG is responsible of the same thing you're foreseeing the governors doing. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by IleIfe2(m): 9:44am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Intrepid!: Has anything like this (election rigging) happened during this administration? political rivals are still killed with the current arrangement. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by shegzy4luv(m): 9:45am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Whobedatte: When it comes being alive to their billings, thats when they spew rubbish. But he can donate billions for thiefnubus birthday bash and also loot billions abi, Like Godfather, Like Godson. Tout turned Gov!i support,dont mind all those political bigots who don't knw d tactics of politicians,they are full of plutocracy,cascading into a mobocracy of a kakistocracy. 2 Likes |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by IleIfe2(m): 9:48am On Oct 17, 2012 |
shegzy4luv: i support,dont mind all those political bigots who don't knw d tactics of politicians,they are full of plutocracy,cascading into a mobocracy of a kakistocracy. Okotie, i see the spirit moving in you mouth and brain. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Dagr8tosyn: 9:50am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Aregbesola has a good idea of what a true federal structure should look like with his statement, we are not saying there should not be federal police force but we need a more aggressive and competing state police for crimes to be curbed. Take for example if there were state police I doubt it if such inhuman and nefarious killing could occur in Aluu because all states higher institutions and its environ will be equipped with police stands/stations and detectives will be made available to curb any form of socio-political menace within the system. Nigerians have suffered social injustice and lack of security enough and I think it's high time we begin to reason alike for the betterment of this nation, we need to move the pendulum of our default federal structure to a more true federal system step by step. Lastly, we need a State Police, reduction of power in the centre/federal and sharing of same to the states/federating body to operate both political and fiscal autonomously. Thereby reducing corruption pervaded at the centre, terrorism of any form and each state will have more money to develop fast against any form of disaster like flood, erosion and so on. 1 Like |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by jidsoon(m): 9:53am On Oct 17, 2012 |
If Nigeria should be respected, the National and State Assemblies should be courageous enough to pass Bills reducing substantially the staggering, alarming funds which the State Governors collect as Security Votes. Most Governors misuse the fund for personal benefits, including intimidating opponents, sponsoring political thugs and cultism. Former Governor Peter Odili’s regime encouraged political cultism which gave rise to militancy and other vices that followed. Today this situation has spread across many other States in the federation; because the State Chief Executives are swimming selfishly in public funds. Ironically, Rt. Hon. Rotimi Amaechi (Rivers State Governor) as then Speaker of Rivers State House of Assembly approved N1.5billion (monthly) to former Governor Odili as Security Vote but today Governor Amaechi is instead collecting only N300million, making his Security Vote the lowest among the rich States. Recall the transporting (from Anambra to Lagos) of N240million in suite cases with official vehicle of Anambra State Governor Peter Obi which was later traced as part of Obi’s Security Vote but the State House of Assembly allegedly cleared him; after Ghana-must-go? Governor Godswill Akpabio whose State is the highest federal revenue earner (made possible by the abrogation of the on/off shore oil dichotomy) takes N1.8billion monthly as Security Vote and if he was sincerely utilizing the amount on security, Akwa Ibom would have remained the safest as it used to be. But his people are aware that he deploys most of this; personally and against his opponents. Governor Theodore Orji of the poor Abia State once asked his State House of Assembly to increase his Security Vote from N400million (monthly) to N700million and he got it |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Demdem(m): 9:58am On Oct 17, 2012 |
The call for state police doesn't in anyway bring an end to the Federal Police. Both should exist and work together. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Whobedatte(m): 9:58am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Ile-Ife:Okotie ke? Dis one is ready to challenge the igdomigodo. Hope he comes out alive! |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by temujin1234: 10:03am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Aregbesola is right, however governors should be taking an interest in security at all times.  |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by OkwaIfugo(m): 10:06am On Oct 17, 2012 |
everyone to his or her own view. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by sunkoye: 10:27am On Oct 17, 2012 |
the Fed should remove governor's immunity clause to create state police. they cant eat their cake and have it. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Demdem(m): 10:33am On Oct 17, 2012 |
sunkoye: the Fed should remove governor's immunity clause to create state police. they cant eat their cake and have it. i agree as long as the president also has his stripped. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by oyebanji(m): 10:35am On Oct 17, 2012 |
while this is a good idea,I still have a couple of issues with the it: 1. will state police not be used as an instrument of oppression and political score settling? 2. how many states can finance a state police? 3. what do we do with the present crop of policemen, if and when the state police comes up? 4. can't we do something about the present arrangement? I think if we are able to answer these questions we will be able to decide whether state police is acceptable or not. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by Demdem(m): 11:02am On Oct 17, 2012 |
oyebanji: while this is a good idea,I still have a couple of issues with the it: [b]let me try and answer some of ur questions as quick as possible 1) Its 50-50 at the initial stage. But am quite positive that with time we will get over it has citizens get much more conscious and educated. Even as the Fed police is now, there are still some small small allegations against the Fed using the Police to its advantage against their political foes. besides, its not a must that the State police will have to be under the direct control of state executives or even fed executives as regards fed police. It depends on how we structure them. They may be under the judiciary, under a special independent panel, or even directly elected (State IG's) etc It depends on how we broaden how minds and create laws that will fit into our perculiar situation. 2) In the advent of state police, the Fed govt will have to relinquish a certain percentage of their allocation right from the source to the states. if the FG is collecting 60% of all allocation today, then because the states now have more responsibility and FG less responsibilities, it should be reduced to like 50 to 55. Simply put. 3) First and foremost, i strongly believe that the present police force should be disbanded however the best among them can be retained for the federal police. All existing policemen should be sent to their states from where the states may decide to recruit new policemen from these folks. Policemen recruited to police a certain area should come from such areas, they should be conversant with such areas. recruiting or posting an aboki policeman to police the riverine areas is ridiculous and stupid. What does an Aboki knows about the Niger-delta? Fed police will have presence and probably superior fire power than state police in all states but in terms of physical number, they are smaller in each states. I envisages clashes as times go on between the two however its normal but with time we will get over this. Their roles should be well defined and the Judiciary strengthened and empowered to adjudicate clashes fast. 4)This present arrangement has been with us for decades and its simply not working. Different government has come and gone and have tried to put it in shape introducing quite a lot of changes like more training, more funds, more equipment and gadgets, diferent operational strategies, more take home pay and incentives for officers, more this and that and even new uniforms etc all to avail. we are still left with a very corrupt and inefficient police force. We cant continue to do the same thing over the decades and suddenly expect that a different result will come to play while still doing the same thing. this is not lotto. The structure of the policeforce IMO is the problem. We need a new structure. I admit what i have here may not be the best however we all can work around it and fashion out something good that will fit in into our peculiarities.[/b] 1 Like |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by staaari: 11:06am On Oct 17, 2012 |
1. will state police not be used as an instrument of oppression and political score settling? That is ok. will you go and live in such state? No. So state that has better security will attract good people, better investment and develop. 2. how many states can finance a state police? If they value true development, they will finance and budget appropriate for their state security. 3. what do we do with the present crop of policemen, if and when the state police comes up? Present crop belong to the Federal. Thats FG's problem. Ofcourse some of them could join the state police. 4. can't we do something about the present arrangement? Present system was setup by British to put ALL OF US into their control during the madness years of colony! It is not meant for us to develop. State Police will be the best thing to happen to us. A secure state/country is more stable and when you stable, you have ability to focus of developement and GROW. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by sdiq: 11:43am On Oct 17, 2012 |
ABEG MAKE PERSON NO YAB ME UNTO WATIN I WON WRITE O. I THINK STATE POLICE WILL BE THE BEST, SHABI WE SEE 24 HOURS FILM NYPD, LAPD, HOW DEY WORK. STATE GO DEY CONTROL THAT ONE AND FEDRAL GO ESTABLISH SOMETHING LIKE CTU THEM GO DEY CONTROL THAT ONE. JUST THAT FED GO GET MORE POWER AND THEM GO ESTABLISH ONE LINK WAY BE SAY STATE POLICE GO DEY REPOPT TO FED DIVISION 2 Likes |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by klas(m): 11:44am On Oct 17, 2012 |
Vogue50: As Chief Security Officer, the governor should have the final say on security matters in his area of juridiction but that is not the case, so he is not stupid. Section 215 of the Constitution says (3) The President or such other Minister of the Government of the Federation as he may authorise in that behalf may give to the Inspector-General of Police such lawful directions with respect to the maintenance and securing of public safety and public order as he may consider necessary, and the Inspector-General of Police shall comply with those direction or cause them to be compiled with. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by logica(m): 11:56am On Oct 17, 2012 |
People will keep asking silly questions. If it's the fear of using State Police for intimidation, it's already happening even with the Federal Police - some governors have been known to use the Police Force to intimidate opponents. You forget that the NPF is a mercenary organization - they dance to the tune of the highest bidder. Secondly financing - state governors have since been financing the NPF stationed in their states from various sources including the security votes. So State Police will merely make it official. Lastly, it doesn't take a genius to know that it makes no sense to deploy men who have no affiliation to a particular state to manage its security. You bring a man from Bauchi to Lagos to secure Lagos? What sense does that make? He wasn't born in Lagos. He doesn't reside in Lagos. He has no emotional attachment to Lagos. If Lagos burns he's not much concerned. If a crime occurs, he has no clue where to start from. He can't speak the local language(s). Does that make sense? So I don't even understand why there's even an argument in the first place. Take for instance the case of the kidnapped wife of the Osun state politician - a palm wine tapper provided the information leading to the arrests (of course the NPF tried to claim they made the arrests). But he contacted the vigilante unit and not the NPF. He has no trust for the NPF. And why is this? So many reasons which all stem from the fact that they are not indigenous. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by AkinDavid2: 12:11pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Intrepid!: Omo na true talk and that has been the bane stopping the creation of state police, but come to think of it this governors self get to much constitutional power..if this is controlled/reduced i think it will be better.. |
| Re: Aregbesola - Governors Not Chief Security Officers by AkinDavid2: 12:11pm On Oct 17, 2012 |
Intrepid!: Omo na true talk and that has been the bane stopping the creation of state police, but come to think of it this governors self get to much constitutional power..if this is controlled/reduced i think it will be better.. |
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