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Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by logica(m): 12:35pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Ijebulogic:I think where you may have gotten it wrong was in the case of the British man, the kids did not present any threat (as in just burglars and not armed). And there may have been use of excessive force meaning after threatening with a gun, he may not have needed to fire the gun. Lastly, he may have illegal possession of the gun. Sorry, I didn't really bother to refresh on the circumstances around the shooting. |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by naturality(m): 12:36pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
They also threatened to kill you if you did not open the door According to the bolded statement above, its a clear evidence that either they are armed robbers or hired killers. to be honest with you, I will waste them all, at least that is one of the reason that I have a licenced gun, its for my personal safety and defence. but in the case of ALUU, the boys were caught without any weapon or stolen items, which makes it barbaric to lynched them in broad day light. even the law allows you to kill in defence of your live, family and property but not in a situation were you had already disarmed and arrested the intruder. |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Nobody: 12:36pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
yuzedo:So, you couldn't see a lot of loopholes in what you just narrated?Jeez! |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by joanana(f): 12:37pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Pimples: I seriously Hope you are Joking Joking ke? m not joking oooo the high BP that hidiot gave me many times is annoying . i don't get to open my window when there's no light, have to sleep in a stuffy room because of that fool; n u say m joking? joke kor joke ni!!!! He should come to my window again!!! na God know wetin go happen!!!! 1 Like |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by yuzedo: 12:41pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
ile naira: . Oh boy.. Here we go again; the nigger debate! Nigger can be a term of endearment or an insult... Completely contextual. all4naija: So, you couldn't see a lot of loopholes in what you just narrated?Jeez! **Shrug** You actually got me considering/contemplating the merits and demerits of trying to substantiate my recount. However, i think i'll just sit back and enjoy the thread.. No need for long talk bros, if u no believe, shun am. |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Nobody: 12:43pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Ijebulogic: Ever so often, we humans get tested by incidents around us. Despite the anger and disgust most feel for the gruesome murder of the Uniport 4, it raises other moral questions.Dude u don't have a point,there is no comparison between the the scenes,even if those boys where guilty they were caught,handing them over to the police was the logical thing to do,a civilised person can kill a robber in self defence,but he will never kill a man in the manner of Aluu,why are u trying to justify allu,s actions,are u from there? |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Nobody: 12:45pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Ijebulogic: Ever so often, we humans get tested by incidents around us. Despite the anger and disgust most feel for the gruesome murder of the Uniport 4, it raises other moral questions. [size=18pt]Does it mean that you don't know the difference between murder and self defence [/size] |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Krucifax(m): 12:46pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
yuzedo: I was dishing out the story on another thread of how my uncle was under siege in his house with about 12 robbers (including women) who were hell-bent on robbing (and perhaps killing) his rich as(s)![b][/b] The last bit has to be my best read on Nairaland for awhile. "Dispatched him to hades" Wooooord!!! 1 Like |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by freecocoa(f): 12:48pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Hmm I'd aim to disarm\injure, don't think I can kill. |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Nobody: 12:50pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Pacify: I can understand your point of view coming from that angle but I want to be believe that there's a distinct difference between a set of robbers threatening to kill you and the speculation without any proof that some set of boys were robbers. Besides, since the boys were caught, it would have been fair justice to hand them over to the police rather than lynch them in broad day light ^^^^ |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by jadakiss213(m): 12:51pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Ijebulogic: Quite some time ago but still holds in UK Law...The 16 year old was a BURGLAR not an ARMED robber.. |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by jadakiss213(m): 12:52pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Ijebulogic: Quite some time ago but still holds in UK Law...The 16 year old was a BURGLAR not an ARMED robber.. |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by drnoel: 12:54pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
just shoot d motherfucker and ask questions later.. |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by monex(m): 12:55pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
the logic in original op statment is really "ijebulogic" how are both analogous? |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Souljaboi1: 12:57pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
yuzedo: I was dishing out the story on another thread of how my uncle was under siege in his house with about 12 robbers (including women) who were hell-bent on robbing (and perhaps killing) his rich as(s)! Guy, almost the same thing happen to a Group Captain and his son in the North... The son, also an Air force Officer, was coming back from the bank and noticed the fools trailing him... The dude managed to out speed them and get into the house, where his waiting father with a loaded 9mm stood.... Score line: About 2 robbers were shot, and father took a hit to his arm.... The fools came back for reprisal attack and you could guess the scoreline |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by adahib: 1:00pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
this is not rocket science.neither is it a question of morality.the most primitive reflex of any living thing is the instinct for survival. i'll shoot them and make damn sure they are dead.if there is twitcher amongst them,i'll shoot him again.then i'll shoot them once again to make damn sure they stay dead.... |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Ijebulogic(m): 1:06pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Gaiden k: Sigh...firstly, i wasnt making a point, i was asking a question. Please read post again and read the earlier clarifications. The Uniport 4 were referenced and not the TOPIC of the post. The question was what would you do? Some have said they'll outright Kill, some have said No killing despite the circumstances, some have said shoot to injure not to kill. What would you do? |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Nkonadi(m): 1:13pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Killing is an understatement compared to wat i'm gonna do if i'm in such situation... |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Souljaboi1: 1:21pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
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Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by ilenaira: 1:26pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
yuzedo: Term of endearment ehn? boy to mum and dad: Yo! ma nig*ers! good morning Dad whozez boy with hot slap: You dey craze!? Mum: I don't tell am make e no dey watch silly American film and think na so life be! E no dey hear word! pangolo gangster! |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Nobody: 1:28pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
It's instinct to kill em all before you risk loosing at least a member of your precious familly....chikina |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Myself2(m): 1:29pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
@ OP You're terribly wrong to compare a likely scenario of armed robbers going to kill you in your house with the #ALUU4 that were murdered by some blood-thirsty community people |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by nneh1(f): 1:32pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Whose so ever asked or compared the aluu4 killings to arm robbers needs a psychological check. Seun what would you expect me to do? Open my door or allow them force it open, rape my loving wife, send my mother inlaw to her early grave and give me high blood pressure. Seun it won't work for you in jesus name. Amennnnn. |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Ijebulogic(m): 1:48pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Myself2: @ OP Sir...Is there ever a "right" time to Kill? thats the dilemma. So sir, would you shoot and kill them...yes/no? |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by xynerise: 1:48pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Before nko? I should leave them so they will come and rap.e me and my wife? |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by igbsam(m): 1:50pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
This is what happend to the Robber that attempted to break into my house. Please, will i go to jail ? The guy is still hanging on my fence and i've not notified the police. Am still thinking if i should leave him there for a whole year as a sign of warning to every other aspiring robbers waiting to break in. 1 Like
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Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by Babaken(m): 2:20pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Ijebulogic: Ever so often, we humans get tested by incidents around us. Despite the anger and disgust most feel for the gruesome murder of the Uniport 4, it raises other moral questions.. Op if i have de chance i go finish de four wait for de fift 1 may be de driver or de informer. |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by kingparagon1: 2:38pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Pacify: I can understand your point of view coming from that angle but I want to be believe that there's a distinct difference between a set of robbers threatening to kill you and the speculation without any proof that some set of boys were robbers. Besides, since the boys were caught, it would have been fair justice to hand them over to the police rather than lynch them in broad day lightwell said! In 1996, abt 8 robbers came 2 our house at mid nite. It ws d 4th time dey were visiting witout success. It ws d gun shot dat woke me up, as i try 2 hide under d bed, i saw my mother praying. My younger & i joined her bt d sound d main heavily fortified doors & gun shots throu d windows stopped us. We started shouting 4 help which none came. We were all shivering as if we had serious fever due 2 d tension. Our tenants all hid themselves. In d Past, witout gun shots, we shout & shout, dey will go. As we were waiting 4 d worst, my mother brought out raw acid which she bought due 2 d last attack. It ws in a 'big tura cream lotion'. It ws nw a do or die mata. I off d power in d whole house, hid mysef at d door 2 our apartment. D back door fell, they enter in2 a tenant room, spend lik 2mins, aft serious beating, head 2 ours. As dey break d door open, i sprayed dem wit d acid. Dey ran 4 their life. Abt 5 of dem were well sprayed all over& bathed cos i chased dem 2 exit door. Day break, we recovered masks, cutlasses, good touches & empty bullets. God saved us dat nite. So, am i in d same class wit aluu pple? |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by kingparagon1: 2:45pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Pacify: I can understand your point of view coming from that angle but I want to be believe that there's a distinct difference between a set of robbers threatening to kill you and the speculation without any proof that some set of boys were robbers. Besides, since the boys were caught, it would have been fair justice to hand them over to the police rather than lynch them in broad day lightwell said! In 1996, abt 8 robbers came 2 our house at mid nite. It ws d 4th time dey were visiting witout success. It ws d gun shot dat woke me up, as i try 2 hide under d bed, i saw my mother praying. My younger & i joined her bt d sound d main heavily fortified doors & gun shots throu d windows stopped us. We started shouting 4 help which none came. We were all shivering as if we had serious fever due 2 d tension. Our tenants all hid themselves. In d Past, witout gun shots, we shout & shout, dey will go. As we were waiting 4 d worst, my mother brought out raw acid which she bought due 2 d last attack. It ws in a 'big tura cream lotion'. It ws nw a do or die mata. I off d power in d whole house, hid mysef at d door 2 our apartment. D back door fell, they enter in2 a tenant room, spend lik 2mins, aft serious beating, head 2 ours. As dey break d door open, i sprayed dem wit d acid. Dey ran 4 their life. Abt 5 of dem were well sprayed all over& bathed cos i chased dem 2 exit door. Day break, we recovered masks, cutlasses, good touches & empty bullets. God saved us dat nite. So, am i in d same class wit aluu pple? |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by FrontPageLawyer(m): 3:24pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
There is no law which authorizes the killing of a person merely because he is a notorious thief or because he is caught stealing. A private person is authorized to arrest a thief. if he does so and after arrest the thief seeks to escape, then he may kill provided he believes on reasonable grounds that his conduct is necessary in other to prevent the escape and offence is such that the offender may be arrested without warrant. If a private person seeks to arrest a thief who is not violent and did not resist arrest, it is unlawful to kill the thief. At common law, homicide committed while acting in reasonable self-defence of oneself is excusable. If a man is violently attacked by another and reasonably believing himself to be in immediate danger of death he kills his assailants, this is not an unlawful killing, but the common law required that the person attacked should retreat as far as possible before retaliating. Generally speaking, if a person having no right to do so kills a thief, the offence is MURDER. It is only an executioner that has the right to kill and he must have been given the right to do so by a court of competent jurisdiction. |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by coogar: 3:29pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
Ijebulogic: Ever so often, we humans get tested by incidents around us. Despite the anger and disgust most feel for the gruesome murder of the Uniport 4, it raises other moral questions. i have a right to defend my family and my home! if robbers hacked into my house at night, i would pump bullets into them! the comparison to aluu-4 is also a bit idiotic. aluu community should have just put those boys against the wall and fire shots at them, it would have been better that way than the barbaric torture and murder! if i catch robbers hacking into my house, i can only shoot at them, there's no way i would smash their heads with a plank and set them on fire! one can defend one's home in self defence without being barbaric! |
Re: Would You Kill Robbers Attempting To Break In to Your Home? by RichDad1(m): 3:50pm On Oct 18, 2012 |
In this type of situation there are two things involve : It's either you kill or be killed. |
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