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Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 6:13pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
This is another of my field of interests. Now where is orikinla to shed light on this issue. It is very very possible that i am a psychic. And if this is true, then i can tell that there are other psychics on this board - because i "might" be able to read psi energy from posts of other psychics. You dont need to believe that actually because it was likely to be because i have been smoking garri mixed with cannabis. Okay, let us get down to the thread. Now where them born again christians dey make them start to talk. These are things that they dont usually talk about in churches - forbidden taboos (they will rather talk about tithes). And yet many christians have done psychic readings from time to time, even pastors self when in some mess seek assistance from psychics, and sometimes soccerers. What do faith-based researchers say about the psychic world? Most see it as a form of self-gratification. Read more: What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by wissezy: 7:00pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
I don't think so. So far christians condemns the third eye, and all those qualities above are identified with the third eye, even reading peoples mind, seeing ghost, communicating to animals, seeing and reading aura, projecting thought to people, seeing the future, and seeing the spiritual world e.t.c |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 7:04pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
^I do know that christians condemn it. But that was old testament stuff. I do know the old testament condemns psychics in fact punishable by death. Now, what of those that are born that way? Or you do not believe that was possible? And cannot seem to turn it off? |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by OmoAlata(f): 7:22pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
pastormustwacc: Then they become prophets, not psychics |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by wissezy: 7:30pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
Yeah, some are born with already opened third eye, while some open theirs thru meditation, and once open it can't be closed. Its better not to be opened if u can't control it. It can drive u mad. 1 Like |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by wissezy: 7:32pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
Omo Alata:lol |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 7:41pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
Omo Alata:I was expecting you here, interesting response. wissezy: Yeah, some are born with already opened third eye, while some open theirs thru meditation, and once open it can't be closed. Its better not to be opened if u can't control it. It can drive u mad.That is a very serious case. I wonder. . . |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by Nobody: 7:53pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
@pastormustwac, pls give us more details into your psychic abilities. I suspect u are female. Its nothing special if you are reading somebody, u are just reading the body language but u think you are reading something deeper. Its all in the mind. And girls are much better at it than guys because their eyes are better equipped for picking up tiny details. Thats why there are much more female psychics than males. 1 Like |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 8:09pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
Male actually. I still dont really believe i am psychic - there must be a mistake somewhere - maybe from watching too many movies. But, if i am really psychic, going by what i read, then it would be: - clairvoyance (and the other one for going into the past), and - empathic abilities (sense emotions in others) * Somehow can read body language more than most people around me. that might be a coincidence. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 8:27pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
So what exactly is a Pxychic? What's the difference between the Christian psychics (Pxychics) at Christianpsychics.biz and other psychics online? Where is wissezy, here is a new one o: http://www.christianpsychics.biz/ |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 8:30pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
Christian, and Psychic?Source: http://www.christianpsychics.biz/ChristianPsychicAndConfused.html This one sounds more believable than opening third eye - i sincerely know that i did not touch any third eye. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by Nobody: 8:34pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
@Pastormustwacc, 1Samauel 28:6-15 6 And when Saul enquired of the LORD, the LORD answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets. 7 Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, [there is] a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor. Read the above chapter ^^^ down to verse 15 and you'll see how Saul consulted a medium. Go through the scripture below to for how he ended; 1Chronicles 10:13-14 So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the LORD, [even] against the word of the LORD, which he kept not, and also for asking [counsel] of [one that had] a familiar spirit, to enquire [of it]; 14 And enquired not of the LORD: therefore he slew him, and turned the kingdom unto David the son of Jesse. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 8:43pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
I have read all that bible passage times without number. But i have no familiar spirit i can assure you - but you need to have a spirit of discernment to confirm that. Did you read the link i posted earlier - http://www.christianpsychics.biz/ChristianPsychicAndConfused.html |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 8:47pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
How Do I Know? |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by Nobody: 11:55pm On Oct 26, 2012 |
Old testament says they should kill fortune tellers! |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 12:51am On Oct 27, 2012 |
Logicboy03: Old testament says they should kill fortune tellers!Buy now, how do you distinguish between those using familiars and those that operate under the spirit of Christ? I am not in the same classes as witches i believe? And i am yet to fall under ministration - been for deliverance under so many great men of God - both the real ones and the ones using demons, might be that i need someone to slap it out of me. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by italo: 10:50am On Oct 27, 2012 |
pastormustwacc: My friend, whether you are using "familiars" or "spirit of Christ" you should go and unite yourself with Christ's Church and let it nourish you with the teachings of Christ. Even the people who you are going to for deliverance are not necessarily known by Christ. Matt.7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ You can do everything in God's name and he still wouldn't know you. Not to cause controversy, just a word of advice. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 11:06am On Oct 27, 2012 |
italo:I mentioned that i am born again, did i not? So when you are telling me to identify with the body of christ? Do you see me as an unbeliever? In fact i am a worker in R.C.C.G just so you know. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by italo: 11:49am On Oct 27, 2012 |
pastormustwacc: No, I didn't see you as an unbeliever. I saw you as a believer who possibly has a great spiritual gift/problem and wasn't in union with Christ's Church. If it is a gift, you should harness it within Christ's Church. If it is a problem, you will solve it within Christ's Church. But if you think that RCCG is the Church that Jesus founded 2000 years ago, and not one of the thousands of so-called "churches" founded by men, then I will leave you to your decision...that we may not derail the thread. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 12:29pm On Oct 27, 2012 |
italo:I have already seen your aura the first time you posted (even before i read your post), and it tells me a lot of things - but i will ignore all that. Try not to be biased, and kindly drop an advice. And when you say spiritual problem - one might think i have the spirit of witchcraft/aluminati - but this one is better i assure you and much more powerful. So, as a christian, what spiritual gifts do you have? Aside speaking all tongues (which it seems all born agains have). |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by Agiliti(m): 11:23pm On Oct 27, 2012 |
when they see visions, isn't that the same thing as a regular person being superstitious? |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 11:39pm On Oct 27, 2012 |
Agiliti: when they see visions, isn't that the same thing as a regular person being superstitious?Derailment: you can use google to research that. It is beyond the scope of this thread. But i am a "regular" person i think. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by Agiliti(m): 11:51pm On Oct 27, 2012 |
pastormustwacc: how is this derailment? whats the difference between tb joshua and a fortune teller? yes their methods and success rates are different, but don't they essentially do the same thing which is predict the future? |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 12:29am On Oct 28, 2012 |
The purposes of this thread is to know views of people, and possible advises. Agiliti:Physically - yes (but spiritually - No), this is one of the reasons why i always warn people not to get carried away by someone using supernatural powers. Concerning Pastor T.B Joshua, i prefer not to talk about him on this thread (for reaons i will rather not discuss). Fortune tellers / psychics using dark powers, can alter people's destinies - they are false prophets - and will lead people ultimately to doom (like King Saul). In case you are not aware, the bible tells us that even false prophets can do miracles. And the antichrist is said to be able to call down fire from heaven like elijah, causing people to believe. 1 Like |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by Agiliti(m): 12:54am On Oct 28, 2012 |
pastormustwacc: The purposes of this thread is to know views of people, and possible advises. so if you say psychics are false prophets, and you say you are a psychic....does that make you a false prophet? this is the reason why you shouldn't box things up in black or white....every psychic is not a prophet of doom, and every "born again" is not as holy as you think. to answer your original question, born again christians can be psychics, matter of fact true born again christians are supposed to be psychic because to be born again simply means to be regenerated in the spirit and a psychic is someone who can perceive spiritual forces. now wether these forces are beneficial or detrimental is a different question |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 1:14am On Oct 28, 2012 |
Agiliti: If you read my post well, you will see that i meant there are psychics that use dark powers, and those that use the power of the holy spirit (like me). My perception has always been beneficial, this is why i know it is from the holy spirit - and it is not from opening the third eye - for the ESPs generated from satanic elements. If you read the gospel well, you will see many times when Jesus will be said to "perceive what they are thinking", like when they wanted to trap him to pay tribute to ceaser. "give to ceaser what belongs to ceaser". And many other times too, he could read their intentions, and know things like knowing that lazarus was dead (while his disciples that are always with him have no idea). What i have just described now is similar to clairvoyance and empathy. Whatever you call them. Jesus told us that the things He did, we will do also. This means that those abilities were not lost to mankind. Add all that to: Acts 2:17 "In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams." This means something now does it not? To me it seems like precognitive abilities. Visions is tantamount to clairvoyance. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 1:17am On Oct 28, 2012 |
The only thing i cannot comprehend is the fact that i seem to have been born this way. Before i even knew who Jesus was. So it was not that, after i got born again - then things now changed. The only thing was,i started praying in tongues several years after getting born again - like a decade after. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by Agiliti(m): 1:32am On Oct 28, 2012 |
pastormustwacc: ok, im trying to understand so i don't make any wrong assumptions...so basically, you're saying there are 2 types of spiritual forces 1.that you can see from your third eye...which is bad 2.that you can perceive from the holy spirit which is good is that right? |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 2:37am On Oct 28, 2012 |
Agiliti:Wrong, all these good and bad stuffs are not really like that. To be honest, i did not know how true the third eye stuff is - it is beyond me. I only operate on 2 levels: the human mind and the holy spirit. i want to believe that all psychics can draw energy directly from their human minds (the normal human mind is not as ordinary as you think). Then those with the holy spirit or demons can draw additional energy from the spirit they posses. Search google for "psychic assasins". From here on, ask google your questions. You wont believe the actual number of people reading all this and taking notes. I have a question for you: do you think mediums operate with the power of the holy spirit or dark forces? Wikipedia explains very well what a medium is supposed to be able to do - since you seem interested. *It took me like 30 minutes or so to make this post, i had to be very careful about what i post - weighing cost and benefits* |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by Agiliti(m): 3:09am On Oct 28, 2012 |
pastormustwacc: well, the reason i asked you that question was to figure out your understanding of light/dark/good/evil to guage your level of psychic awareness but since you don't want to talk about it, we'll drop it. to answer your question, mediums can either be good or bad depending on what frequency they're sensing. they're not actions or forces, but simply devices of communication |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by pastormustwacc: 7:10am On Oct 28, 2012 |
^^So sorry i dont wish to talk too much, dont want too many people to think we are talking super-story here. Maybe another time. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Psychic / What Does Jesus Say About Psychics? by Image123(m): 10:55am On Oct 28, 2012 |
psychic abilities have to do with man's spirit. If you have a spirit gift or physical gift or a mental gift, submit it to God. let God use you. 1 Like |
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