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I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by kikuyu1(m): 8:12am On Oct 30, 2012
The same dialectic is used. Words like 'marginalisation,exclusion,superiority,inferiority complex,'are used in similar contexts to Kenya. On the threads here I've seen talk of 'host communities,settlers,immigrants and indigenes,'making me think Naijja and Kenyan haters read the same playbook. Tell me how a Hausa sells his land to an Ibo then turns on him later on accusing him of exclusionism,selfishness,superiority etc etc.
We negroes are our own worst enemies!

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Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by Abagworo(m): 8:24am On Oct 30, 2012
kikuyu1: The same dialectic is used. Words like 'marginalisation,exclusion,superiority,inferiority complex,'are used in similar contexts to Kenya. On the threads here I've seen talk of 'host communities,settlers,immigrants and indigenes,'making me think Naijja and Kenyan haters read the same playbook. Tell me how a Hausa sells his land to an Ibo then turns on him later on accusing him of exclusionism,selfishness,superiority etc etc.
We negroes are our own worst enemies!

If you are Kikuyu then you have same zeal as Igbos. Many of these African groups I believe are kind of linked and found in many countries like Xhosa in SA or Bamileke of Cameroun.

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Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by nku5: 9:01am On Oct 30, 2012
My brother racism is now worse in africa than anywhere else iin the world. It is very unfortunate. Black on black racism. Igbos and kikuyus have a lot in common. Infact an igbo guerilla group called ekumeku that fought the british occupation of western igboland for 17 years has been speculated to have been an inspiration to the mau mau movement

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Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by kikuyu1(m): 1:49pm On Oct 30, 2012
Abagworo:

If you are Kikuyu then you have same zeal as Igbos. Many of these African groups I believe are kind of linked and found in many countries like Xhosa in SA or Bamileke of Cameroun.
I've heard the same and I suspect it may be true. Most African history is still not just unknown but untold. We parrot the same historical narratives of the oyibos as if we still haven't learned anything for ourselves. On a relevant thread I posted our own lost pictography called gichandi,which in my own layman's view wasn't far from nsibidi.
My brother racism is now worse in africa than anywhere else iin the world. It is very unfortunate. Black on black racism. Igbos and kikuyus have a lot in common. Infact an igbo guerilla group called ekumeku that fought the british occupation of western igboland for 17 years has been speculated to have been an inspiration to the mau mau movement
Its more of an inferiority complex to be honest,its nothing to do with resources or politics. In Kenya,Luos,Kalenjins,Somalis,everybody else in fact 'explains' their poverty blaming Kenyatta,Kibaki and Kikuyus at large. IDK,where you are but if you're in the West there must be some Luos in school. Ask them about marginalisation and disenfranchisement-they'll bend your ear for hours with tales of how we supposedly engineered their poverty. Then ask why Kenyatta established sugar,cotton and rice growing schemes in Luoland during the early days of the semi socialist command economy. At this point they change the subject.They're too attached to the narrative however false to see things as they are.
Do you have anything more on ekumeku?

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Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by nku5: 5:19pm On Oct 30, 2012
kikuyu1:
I've heard the same and I suspect it may be true. Most African history is still not just unknown but untold. We parrot the same historical narratives of the oyibos as if we still haven't learned anything for ourselves. On a relevant thread I posted our own lost pictography called gichandi,which in my own layman's view wasn't far from nsibidi.

Its more of an inferiority complex to be honest,its nothing to do with resources or politics. In Kenya,Luos,Kalenjins,Somalis,everybody else in fact 'explains' their poverty blaming Kenyatta,Kibaki and Kikuyus at large. IDK,where you are but if you're in the West there must be some Luos in school. Ask them about marginalisation and disenfranchisement-they'll bend your ear for hours with tales of how we supposedly engineered their poverty. Then ask why Kenyatta established sugar,cotton and rice growing schemes in Luoland during the early days of the semi socialist command economy. At this point they change the subject.They're too attached to the narrative however false to see things as they are.
Do you have anything more on ekumeku?


You can start with these bro

https://www.nairaland.com/1086185/ekumeku-resistance-1897-1914

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekumeku_War
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by nku5: 5:37pm On Oct 30, 2012
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by 9javoice1(m): 8:00pm On Oct 30, 2012
Origin
The Kikuyu are of Bantu origin.[3] They constitute the single largest ethnic group in Kenya, and are concentrated in the vicinity of Mount Kenya. The exact place that the Kikuyu's ancestors migrated from after the initial Bantu expansion from West Africa is uncertain. Some authorities suggest that they arrived in their present Mount Kenya area of inhabitation from earlier settlements further to the north and east,[3] while others argue that the Kikuyu, along with related Eastern Bantu people such as the Embu, Mbeere and Meru, moved into Kenya from points further south.[4]

if this statement mentioned by wikipedia are true then these kikuyus are ibos that migrated into east of africa.
am seing clearly that ibos are one of the largest ethnic group in africa.

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Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by 9javoice1(m): 8:07pm On Oct 30, 2012
some of there names are igbo like names,
the same pronounciation but differ in meaning and writing which can be so due to many factors.

Mwangi is nwa-gi(ngi is also gi) in ibo
Murungaru is muruga-niru in ibo
Ndereba is nderebe in ibo
Wanyoike is nwayo-ike in ibo
Wanjiru is nwaji-iru in ibo
Njonjo is also njonjo or njo in igbo
Kagwe is kakwe in ibo an abriviation of chi-kakwe
etc, so many many of them.

like play like play obama go become an ibo blood hehehe hehuheeeeee.

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Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by Dainfamous: 8:20pm On Oct 30, 2012
Ngodigha1:
Ashi backyard, why does the Igbo choke you even in your dreams?. Get a life barren woman
cry cry
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by Dainfamous: 8:24pm On Oct 30, 2012
kikuyu1: The same dialectic is used. Words like 'marginalisation,exclusion,superiority,inferiority complex,'are used in similar contexts to Kenya. On the threads here I've seen talk of 'host communities,settlers,immigrants and indigenes,'making me think Naijja and Kenyan haters read the same playbook. Tell me how a Hausa sells his land to an Ibo then turns on him later on accusing him of exclusionism,selfishness,superiority etc etc.
We negroes are our own worst enemies!
bro, blood is thicker than water peoples migration didnt start today b/w the two groups they got many things in common is not by accident...
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by 9javoice1(m): 8:25pm On Oct 30, 2012
Genetics

According to a Y DNA study by Wood et al. (2005), about 73% of Gĩkũyũs and their Bantu kinsmen the Kamba belong to the common Sub-Saharan paternal haplogroup E1b1a. The remainder carry other clades: 19% E1b1b, 2% A, and 2% B.[26]
In terms of maternal lineages, Gĩkũyũs closely cluster with other Eastern Bantu groups like the Sukuma. Most belong to various Sub-Saharan mtDNA L haplogroups such as L0f, L3x, L4g and L5 per Castrì et al. (2009).[27] According to Salas et al. (2002), other Gĩkũyũs largely carry the L1a clade, which is a signature of the Bantu expansion from West Africa.[28]
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by Dainfamous: 8:27pm On Oct 30, 2012
9ja voice: some of there names are igbo like names,
the same pronounciation but differ in meaning and writing which can be so due to many factors.

Mwangi is nwa-gi(ngi is also gi) in ibo
Murungaru is muruga-niru in ibo
Ndereba is nderebe in ibo
Wanyoike is nwayo-ike in ibo
Wanjiru is nwaji-iru in ibo
Njonjo is also njonjo or njo in igbo
Kagwe is kakwe in ibo an abriviation of chi-kakwe
etc, so many many of them.

like play like play obama go become an ibo blood hehehe hehuheeeeee.
igbos settle in different places in Africa DNA now can bring brother groups together.. smiley smiley
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by 9javoice1(m): 8:28pm On Oct 30, 2012
Language

Gĩkũyũs speak the Gĩkũyũ language as their native tongue, which is a member of the Bantu subgroup of the Niger–Congo language family. Additionally, many speak Swahili and English as lingua franca, the two official languages of Kenya.
The Gĩkũyũ are closely related to the Embu, Mbeere, Kamba and Meru people who also live around Mt. Kenya. Members of the Gĩkũyũ family from the greater Kiambu (commonly referred to as the Kabete) and Nyeri districts are closely related to the Maasai people due to intermarriage prior to colonization. The Gĩkũyũ people between Thika and Mbeere are closely related to the Kamba people who speak a language similar to Gĩkũyũ. As a result, the Gĩkũyũ people that retain much of the original Gĩkũyũ heritage reside around Kirinyaga and Murang'a regions of Kenya. The Murang'a district is considered by many to be the cradle of the Gĩkũyũ people and as such, Gĩkũyũ's from the Murang'a area are considered to be of a purer breed.
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by 9javoice1(m): 8:32pm On Oct 30, 2012
1963-Present
Since the proclamation of the Republic of Kenya, after the British colony of Kenya came to an end in 1963, the Agikuyu now form an integral part of the Kenyan nation. They continue to play their part as citizens of Kenya, helping to build their country. However, due to their incorrectly perceived superior economic status, some Kenyans resent that fact and this resentment is sometimes vented through political violence, as happened in 1992, 1997 and 2007 Kenyan elections.
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by 9javoice1(m): 8:36pm On Oct 30, 2012
1945-1963
In 1946 KASU became the Kenya African Union (KAU). It was a nationalist organization that demanded access to white-owned land. KAU acted as a constituency association for the first black member of Kenya's legislative council, Eliud Mathu, who had been nominated in 1944 by the governor after consulting with the local Bantu/Nilotic elite. The KAU remained dominated by the Kikuyu ethnic group. In 1947 Jomo Kenyatta, the former president of the moderate Kikuyu Central Association, became president of the more aggressive KAU to demand a greater political voice for the native inhabitants.[21] The failure of the KAU to attain any significant reforms or redress of grievances from the colonial authorities shifted the political initiative to younger and more militant figures within the African trade union movement, among the squatters on the settler estates in the Rift Valley and in KAU branches in Nairobi and the Kikuyu districts of central province[22] The Agikuyu soldiers who had come back from the second world war as King African Rifles (KAR), having gained military skills resulted to war to liberate Agikuyu from British oppression and colonisation. By 1952, under Field Marshal Dedan Kimathi, the Kenya Land and Freedom Army (Mau Mau) launched a full military conflict on the British military, settlers and their sympathisers.[23] By this time the Mau Mau was fighting for total independence of Kenya. The war is considered by some the gravest crisis of Britain's African colonies[24] The capture of rebel leader Dedan Kimathi on 21 October 1956 signalled the ultimate defeat of the Mau Mau Uprising, and essentially ended the British military campaign. The conflict arguably set the stage for Kenyan independence in December 1963.[25]

cowardice are not traceble in our gene at all
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by lagcity(m): 8:40pm On Oct 30, 2012
9ja voice:

cowardice are not traceble in our gene at all

are u sure? Ojukwu must be idoma grin
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by vanbonattel: 10:13pm On Oct 30, 2012
lagcity:

Thank u very much. Rise again on November 5 grin up Biafra! I actually wish u guys luck but I know you ppl are just chest beating as usual. Smh.

at least some people beat their chest, better than being cowards forever,
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by kikuyu1(m): 7:39am On Oct 31, 2012
Wow! Thanks all for the info. Those Ibo/Kikuyu names aren't coincidence. Btw,Kikuyus are a collection of hybrids and also have a lot of HOA,some like your Fulani,especially the women look Somali and/or Oromo. There was a migration from that side in early times. Am reading that ekumeku story now.
Here is the real reason they hate us:
Other than agriculture, the Kikuyu people are good business people.
http://www.enhols.com/kenya_safari/people/kikuyu/
Here is how many Kenyans insist on 'explaining' the success of many Kikuyus. Though to be honest this particular blogger is a professional idler /pro Raila groupie posing as political analyst.
ecause Uhuru Kenyatta is one of the top tribalists in the Republic. He has publicly associated with GEMA, an[b] open tribal outfit whose key tenet is that Kenya belongs to the Kikuyu ethnic group. When he was Minister for Finance, Uhuru packed members of his Kikuyu ethnic group in every key financial institution to facilitate smooth looting of the economy[/b]. In fact, key government institutions are packed with Kikuyus “from top to bottom”, and in certain instances, Kikuyu language is the official language of communication
http://kenyastockholm.com/2012/05/22/decoding-the-national-alliance-tna-of-uhuru-kenyatta/
You can slander anyone on the net,its the easiest thing to do,but the point is I see identical emotional haterade whenever nairalanders 'discuss' Ibo issues. No matter how hard they try the hate invariably seeps through.
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by kikuyu1(m): 4:30pm On Nov 09, 2012
However there's one important difference between us. Despite the envy masquerading as politics we've not been sidelined and never will be. In fact our next prez is none other than Kenyatta's own son! As long as we have the numbers,the means, skills and the will to make it count a son of the House of Mumbi will rule Kenya for a looooooong time.
By virtue of an accident of history that placed them permanently near the centre of power, coupled with intrinsic group advantages over other communities; fertile lands,large numbers averaging 25% of the national figure ,a willingness to acquire education and a near universal belief in upward mobility via individual effort Kikuyus have dominated the political landscape and will continue to do so indefinitely. There's no shrtage of national leadership material.
http://karanjazplace..com/2012/11/why-kikuyus-will-always-rule.html
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by whitecat007: 6:27pm On Nov 09, 2012
Ode, His father was luos not kikuyu.
9ja voice: some of there names are igbo like names,
the same pronounciation but differ in meaning and writing which can be so due to many factors.

Mwangi is nwa-gi(ngi is also gi) in ibo
Murungaru is muruga-niru in ibo
Ndereba is nderebe in ibo
Wanyoike is nwayo-ike in ibo
Wanjiru is nwaji-iru in ibo
Njonjo is also njonjo or njo in igbo
Kagwe is kakwe in ibo an abriviation of chi-kakwe
etc, so many many of them.

like play like play obama go become an ibo blood hehehe hehuheeeeee.
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by kikuyu1(m): 7:40am On Apr 16, 2013
Btw nairalanders,in this world we all learn from each others experiences;the sum total of another man's hopes,fears, triumphs and failures can be part of our own learning process if we make it so. With that in mind let's look at our new prez,Uhuru. He was written off by everyone-local and foreign 'experts'all declared another Kikuyu in the State House to be an impossible feat.
They were all so mesmerised by their own false narratives it was only til a month before the election Kenya's 'best' analyst finally saw the light and declared it for Uhuru explaining the 'tyranny of numbers'made Uhuru's win a foregone conclusion. The Oyinbos own analysis a fortnight to the voting saw him winning with an easy 900,000 vote margin.
IDK the Naija political situation;your ACD,AD,CPC,ANPP etc etc but my point is-don't swallow wholesale the selfserving arguments of those who demand the Ibo must stay on the sidelines to atone for perceived past crimes or to meet some ethnic equation-if you play your cards correctly you may confound all,including yourselves.
Look at us-3 of 4 prez's have been Kikuyu.
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by Nobody: 9:47am On Apr 16, 2013
Good good Kenyata in igbo is KEYATA( DIVIDE IT TODAY)
UHURU in igbo means OHURU ( NEW) wow kikuyus are igbos!! Let me research and make a post
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by Nobody: 9:52am On Apr 16, 2013
send me an email on
ifedubat@gmail.com
i want to reseach on this
Re: I See Many Parallels Between Igbos And Kikuyus by Nobody: 11:02am On Apr 16, 2013
Lol

Isn't everyone related at the end?

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