webdezzi: @greenmouse, just cut that crap right there ok!

i last updated my website http://www.webdezzi.com in 2008, reason best known to me. Yes, that was a 5 year old design beside yours.
I am sure you have a very poor discerning sense, and that's why YOU, a website design company CEO thinks your website => http://www.greenmousetech.com
can compete in this age, While others may praise that site, if i own that, it'll be thinking of revamping it right now.

We have some projects at the moment and we have not been able to complete our new website. i dont care how long it takes us.
what matters is how well.

For your info, I did not put up webdesign or training for youwin cos to me, there is nothing innovative about it, it's everywhere.


i dont have to post my achievements on a public forums

Visit this pages and keep your mouth closed, you don't give excuse for not making money, we are not mates in ICT, You have to make your website fine in other to convince other to give you jobs, come let me employ you, if you are good, I can pay you 100k monthly:

http://www.greenmousetech.com/out-door-training.html
http://www.greenmousetech.com/websites.html
http://www.greenmousetech.com/projects.html
http://www.greenmousetech.com/logo.html
http://www.greenmousetech.com/products.html

Finally, read my vanguard interview and see how I started so be humble and learn from others : http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/ict-skill-acquisition-key-to-career-breakthrough-victor-nwadinobi/

greenmouse:

Visit this pages and keep your mouth closed, you don't give excuse for not making money, we are not mates in ICT, You have to make your website fine in other to convince other to give you jobs, come let me employ you, if you are good, I can pay you 100k monthly:

http://www.greenmousetech.com/out-door-training.html
http://www.greenmousetech.com/websites.html
http://www.greenmousetech.com/projects.html
http://www.greenmousetech.com/logo.html
http://www.greenmousetech.com/products.html

Finally, read my vanguard interview and see how I started so be humble and learn from others : http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/ict-skill-acquisition-key-to-career-breakthrough-victor-nwadinobi/

bro, the links you provided just showed that even with your youwin funds, We really aren't mate.
i wont resort to uploading pix nor will i look down on a new up and coming business as yours.


I am really impressed that you are doing something with the funds but my stand remains.
At the Ibadan shortlist training, I had the opportunity of meeting Nigerians with bright ideas, Most of these ideas are already been developed,
yet most of these ideas failed to make it, I cant tell how they performed BP-wise but the extra long delay in releasing the result is a clear sign, something happened.
This is very clear when you look at what is going on with the fuel subsidy probe/reports/scandals.

webdezzi:
bro, the links you provided just showed that even with your youwin funds, We really aren't mate.
i wont resort to uploading pix nor will i look down on a new up and coming business as yours.


I am really impressed that you are doing something with the funds but my stand remains.
At the Ibadan shortlist training, I had the opportunity of meeting Nigerians with bright ideas, Most of these ideas are already been developed,
yet most of these ideas failed to make it, I cant tell how they performed BP-wise but the extra long delay in releasing the result is a clear sign, something happened.
This is very clear when you look at what is going on with the fuel subsidy probe/reports/scandals.

You are diverting the argument so am out, best of Luck.

How they have turned the thread to show me what you have got and I will show you what I have got. Really *Large* people dont make such statements.

@Webdezzi, I don't buy the idea that YouWIN is fraudulent. I did not know anyone in YouWIN office when I applied and the same thing goes to Greenmouse my friend. I made so many people during the 4days training and most of them did not know anyone in YouWIN office. I can tell you that the process was free and fare as the marking and final selection process was done in UK and a UK base consultant. That is why somebody like me was among the winner.

Do you thing by having a nice idea, bank will give you loan? Do you thing by having a unique idea, you will get investor? For you to get investor to invest in your business or bank to support your business, you have to proof to them that you have what it takes to run your business profitably.

For the fact that you did not make it doesn't mean the process was fraudulent, it just that you effort was not good enough.

can we address the topic?

i cannot see anything creative in website designing as an idea per se (though you can be a creative website designer) which am yet to see on this board anyway.

Back to topic:

Web development is hot now globally as many more services are going SaaS. I really wonder why one will consider it frustrating! If clients suck, do your own projects. kapish!

Good things (including web apps and websites) cannot be hidden. People must see it, love it, contact you and that is more business (more cheddah) for you.

My advice: Learn, learn, learn, build and make sure you do not look for easy way out while building rather look for the best way.

Cheers

I must say its very appaling the way some wrb developers design shit with tabled and mess the whole thing up. take a look at the source code of zenith bank website for example, its a total mess! and sumone must have collected millions for d job. just did BS with tables. As a web developer its i wonder hw quack developers gey jobs.

www.udonline.net
Thats the place to visit if u need quality web application. a designer that can code.

udswagz: I must say its very appaling the way some wrb developers design shit with tabled and mess the whole thing up. take a look at the source code of zenith bank website for example, its a total mess! and sumone must have collected millions for d job. just did BS with tables. As a web developer its i wonder hw quack developers gey jobs.

www.udonline.net
Thats the place to visit if u need quality web application. a designer that can code.

That's d sad aspect, they keep getting the jobs.

udswagz: I must say its very appaling the way some wrb developers design shit with tabled and mess the whole thing up. take a look at the source code of zenith bank website for example, its a total mess! and sumone must have collected millions for d job. just did BS with tables. As a web developer its i wonder hw quack developers gey jobs.

www.udonline.net
Thats the place to visit if u need quality web application. a designer that can code.

sisqology:



That's d sad aspect, they keep getting the jobs.

udswagz: I must say its very appaling the way some wrb developers design shit with tabled and mess the whole thing up. take a look at the source code of zenith bank website for example, its a total mess! and sumone must have collected millions for d job. just did BS with tables. As a web developer its i wonder hw quack developers gey jobs.

www.udonline.net
Thats the place to visit if u need quality web application. a designer that can code.

You guys keep focusing on the wrong things still, Zenith Bank wanted one thing - results, something to showcase their brand online.
They've gotten the result they wanted and don't care if it was done with divs, tables or text-boxes (I know of a "professional" "webmaster" who does this.

Get a Business minded person with track record to partner with you on a percentage basis and run your Gig for you.
You'd be pleased at the result.
You guys are driven by the quest for perfection and are good at what you do.
To get more contracts, get someone who's driven by the smell of cold-hard cash to get it for you.
That way you enjoy the best of both worlds.
Not all creatives can be entrepreneurs at the same time.
Peace!

udswagz: I must say its very appaling the way some wrb developers design shit with tabled and mess the whole thing up. take a look at the source code of zenith bank website for example, its a total mess! and sumone must have collected millions for d job. just did BS with tables. As a web developer its i wonder hw quack developers gey jobs.

www.udonline.net
Thats the place to visit if u need quality web application. a designer that can code.

Sorry o but after slating the Zenith Bank website, I was expecting to see something better from you. The link you posted is

Should web designers be mindful of the design standards and validity? Yes but while you are at it, the designs you put out(in pointing out the lack of standards in others), must be above average.

If the Zenith Bank management should read this post and got interested in what you are trying to say about using tables vs CSS, on going to the link you posted, to perhaps hire you, chances are that they would change their minds and stick with the original designers, tables or not.

soloqy:

Sorry o but after slating the Zenith Bank website, I was expecting to see something better from you. The link you posted is

Should web designers be mindful of the design standards and validity? Yes but while you are at it, the designs you put out(in pointing out the lack of standards in others), must be above average.

If the Zenith Bank management should read this post and got interested in what you are trying to say about using tables vs CSS, on going to the link you posted, to perhaps hire you, chances are that they would change their minds and stick with the original designers, tables or not.

Hahahahaha, I'm not talking here. But I've viewed the site.

soloqy:

Sorry o but after slating the Zenith Bank website, I was expecting to see something better from you. The link you posted is

Should web designers be mindful of the design standards and validity? Yes but while you are at it, the designs you put out(in pointing out the lack of standards in others), must be above average.

If the Zenith Bank management should read this post and got interested in what you are trying to say about using tables vs CSS, on going to the link you posted, to perhaps hire you, chances are that they would change their minds and stick with the original designers, tables or not.

soloqy:

Sorry o but after slating the Zenith Bank website, I was expecting to see something better from you. The link you posted is

Should web designers be mindful of the design standards and validity? Yes but while you are at it, the designs you put out(in pointing out the lack of standards in others), must be above average.

If the Zenith Bank management should read this post and got interested in what you are trying to say about using tables vs CSS, on going to the link you posted, to perhaps hire you, chances are that they would change their minds and stick with the original designers, tables or not.

well i would be interested to know after veiwing the site the reasons for the smilies, if you think you are good with your HTML/CSS tell me what you found wanting, dont just laugh say something, i assume we are all learning. You guys just laugh over whats not, any one that knows what they are doing would confirm that site. Also provide a link to your sites, lets see if your worth your salt!

udswagz:

well i would be interested to know after viewing the site the reasons for the smilies, if you think you are good with your HTML/CSS tell me what you found wanting, dont just laugh say something, i assume we are all learning. You guys just laugh over whats not, any one that knows what they are doing would confirm that site. Also provide a link to your sites, lets see if your worth your salt!

Its not about confirming whether you used CSS or not. The fact is that you raised a lot of hope by slating the Zenith website and by providing a link for us to go and "see how its done", one expected to see something more aesthetically pleasing than that of Zenith.

To be honest, do you believe a lay man who doesn't know anything about css/tables would choose your site over the Zenith one?

The design is like the designs that came with the earlier CMSs like PHPNuke.

Once again, I commented on it because following your comment on the Zenith bank site, I was excited and expected to see something a lot better.

Stop fighting na

lol

brine: lol

Where dem open u from?

We Nigerians are not good in anything except to blast even when one cannot do it.
You used a free template from templatemo.com to design your company website and you come here to blast another person that uses table to design and give results.

He is far better than you because he is an entrepreneur and provides solutions.

Go work on yourself first abeg.

Why una cme dey yab eachoda na

Website development is one thing, the business of webdevelopment/website design is another thing entirely.

If you don't see it as a business, no matter how good you are, you will be left frustrated.

You can look up on youtube for a particular guy called; elithecomputerguy - he has a video on the business of website design amongst many other important videos.

Ok, here's the link;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvpfTXBXw7w

soloqy:

Its not about confirming whether you used CSS or not. The fact is that you raised a lot of hope by slating the Zenith website and by providing a link for us to go and "see how its done", one expected to see something more aesthetically pleasing than that of Zenith.

To be honest, do you believe a lay man who doesn't know anything about css/tables would choose your site over the Zenith one?

The design is like the designs that came with the earlier CMSs like PHPNuke.

Once again, I commented on it because following your comment on the Zenith bank site, I was excited and expected to see something a lot better.

DUDE i would like to see a link of your website please, i bet you dont even know how to code hello world, here is my first commercial website
i designed from scratch for UN CCN it has over 1,000 users and processes not less that 200 orders every day - www.members.carboncreditnetwork.org

now do give us a link, that what we want.

utimatedes: We Nigerians are not good in anything except to blast even when one cannot do it.
You used a free template from templatemo.com to design your company website and you come here to blast another person that uses table to design and give results.

He is far better than you because he is an entrepreneur and provides solutions.

Go work on yourself first abeg.

using a template in business terms is called leveraging and most developers instead of designing from scratch prefer buying templates
makes work easier.. Its not about copying its about how i made a dull template come alive using jquery, ajax and jscript.
check out the orginal one and see how much more advanced mine is.

I hate empty people who havent done a thing yet they come here bragin, i am in the real world, u guys just coding from your
rooms and imagining things.

To be frank with you all there are a lot of opportunities in Nigeria, some of you either are not skilled enought, lack experience, or just plain lying
. For IT guys the sky is just a stepping stone.
Nigeria is just begining to use computers, many comapanies are sprouting, everyone wants a piece of the internet and the good news is we are just very few. The market is large enough to feed everyone all it takes is the right planning, a vision and a commitment to excellence.
Am in my final year in school and am getting jobs like water far away in Owerri while i live in Lagos. Even from Abuja.I swear am not lying.
The CCN company already promising to work my service to lagos for me so i can work for them.
Guys we are look but see differently, opportunities abound. People lets kill the beef, we be one Nigeria joined by our abilities and thats the ability to make the computer do want we want.
I rest my case!

udswagz:

DUDE i would like to see a link of your website please, i bet you dont even know how to code hello world, here is my first commercial website
i designed from scratch for UN CCN it has over 1,000 users and processes not less that 200 orders every day - www.members.carboncreditnetwork.org

now do give us a link, that what we want.

Goodness!! This is even worse than the first link you posted.

I hate empty people who havent done a thing yet they come here bragin,

Hellooo!! The only person that bragged here is you. You are the one who posted the UBA website link and slated them for using tables and doing a bad job.

We only commented on it because you berated them and still went ahead to post a link that is not better than theirs.

Chai! This thread don suffer o *runs back "USAINly" to programming section*

soloqy:


Goodness!! This is even worse than the first link you posted.



Hellooo!! The only person that bragged here is you. You are the one who posted the UBA website link and slated them for using tables and doing a bad job.

We only commented on it because you berated them and still went ahead to post a link that is not better than theirs.

Dude now i know you are just on this forum sayin what thou knowest not. U dont know shit about programming and ur talking
i cant believe i wasted my time talking to a dumbaass, right now am having regrets, i feel like i have stained my programmer
self with an inferior Jew. You dont even deserve my reply. "*musing* dont even know shit about programming" no wonder !!

udswagz:

Dude now i know you are just on this forum sayin what thou knowest not. U dont know shit about programming and ur talking
i cant believe i wasted my time talking to a dumbaass, right now am having regrets, i feel like i have stained my programmer
self with an inferior Jew. You dont even deserve my reply. "*musing* dont even know shit about programming" no wonder !!

Lol, little script kiddies everywhere. Professionals dont talk like this.

soloqy:

Lol, little script kiddies everywhere. Professionals dont talk like this.

NO link, No talking....#NoExerience

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